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Devil Chaser
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Posted - 2004.09.19 08:52:00 -
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Allright, I've read several posts and I'm getting the feeling this is general practice on EVE. I'd like to know if this is termed harassment or just part of EVE.
Myself and a couple friends have earned enough money to create a corp. We wanted this so we could share assets and generally make it easier to work together.
A couple days after our corp is made, we've already gotten notice that another corp is declaring war on us. So now we soon won't be safe in concord space.
So... WTF?! We just want to do our thing and develop our characters / get better ships, rat hunt, etc. Why are we now going to be attacked by another corp's super characters and battleships in protected space? To us this is harassment, we don't do anything to other corps we just stick to ourselves.
So... is this normal in EVE, and approved by EVE staff? Do we need to dissolve our corp and go back to not having a shared hangar just because sone bloodthirsty corp is declaring war on starting corps for kicks? I don't pay money in this game to be attacked in protected space. When we're ready for wars we'll mess around with it. But right now we aren't interested. What can we do?
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Devil Chaser
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Posted - 2004.09.19 08:52:00 -
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Allright, I've read several posts and I'm getting the feeling this is general practice on EVE. I'd like to know if this is termed harassment or just part of EVE.
Myself and a couple friends have earned enough money to create a corp. We wanted this so we could share assets and generally make it easier to work together.
A couple days after our corp is made, we've already gotten notice that another corp is declaring war on us. So now we soon won't be safe in concord space.
So... WTF?! We just want to do our thing and develop our characters / get better ships, rat hunt, etc. Why are we now going to be attacked by another corp's super characters and battleships in protected space? To us this is harassment, we don't do anything to other corps we just stick to ourselves.
So... is this normal in EVE, and approved by EVE staff? Do we need to dissolve our corp and go back to not having a shared hangar just because sone bloodthirsty corp is declaring war on starting corps for kicks? I don't pay money in this game to be attacked in protected space. When we're ready for wars we'll mess around with it. But right now we aren't interested. What can we do?
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Meehan
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Posted - 2004.09.19 08:55:00 -
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Wait and see. Most wars are dead wars. But you'll have to stay non-AFK for sure...
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Meehan
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Posted - 2004.09.19 08:55:00 -
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Wait and see. Most wars are dead wars. But you'll have to stay non-AFK for sure...
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Reptar
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Posted - 2004.09.19 09:12:00 -
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most war corps are alts just look at the size of the corp, less than 5 members usually means an alt corp. They wont give u much trouble just add them to your address book so u can see them in local easily and dont go afk unless docked.
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Reptar
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Posted - 2004.09.19 09:12:00 -
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most war corps are alts just look at the size of the corp, less than 5 members usually means an alt corp. They wont give u much trouble just add them to your address book so u can see them in local easily and dont go afk unless docked.
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Etoile Chercheur
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Posted - 2004.09.19 09:47:00 -
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fortunately in Shiva, there will be a cost to wars that will make harassment wars like this less common. (hopefully.)
Midshipman Etoile Chercheur - Logistics Division (M&T) | Hadean Drive Yards
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Etoile Chercheur
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Posted - 2004.09.19 09:47:00 -
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fortunately in Shiva, there will be a cost to wars that will make harassment wars like this less common. (hopefully.)
Midshipman Etoile Chercheur - Logistics Division (M&T) | Hadean Drive Yards
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fairimear
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Posted - 2004.09.19 11:06:00 -
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u can blame the devs for this its the only way for pirates to pirate in empire with the new uber gank concord flag system.
(\_/)
(O.o)
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fairimear
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Posted - 2004.09.19 11:06:00 -
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u can blame the devs for this its the only way for pirates to pirate in empire with the new uber gank concord flag system.
(\_/)
(O.o)
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Nicholas Marshal
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Posted - 2004.09.19 11:07:00 -
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Wars/pvp are the only real point to eve. Without them, the game would die.
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Nicholas Marshal
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Posted - 2004.09.19 11:07:00 -
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Wars/pvp are the only real point to eve. Without them, the game would die.
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babyblue
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Posted - 2004.09.19 11:10:00 -
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 Originally by: Nicholas Marshal
Wars/pvp are the only real point to eve. Without them, the game would die.
More griefer tripe. In the context of the original poster, it is just a group of muppets trying to get a few easy kills in Empire.
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babyblue
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Posted - 2004.09.19 11:10:00 -
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Originally by: Nicholas Marshal
Wars/pvp are the only real point to eve. Without them, the game would die.
More griefer tripe. In the context of the original poster, it is just a group of muppets trying to get a few easy kills in Empire.
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Kahn Moquil
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Posted - 2004.09.19 11:27:00 -
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Get a bunch of cheap frigates and show your aggressors what you're made of. Lot's of fun to be had in pvp, even if you lose a bunch of ships 
Who knows, they may have underestimated you and they will soon crawl back to the hole they came from. Right then and there is the time to declare back on them 
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Kahn Moquil
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Posted - 2004.09.19 11:27:00 -
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Get a bunch of cheap frigates and show your aggressors what you're made of. Lot's of fun to be had in pvp, even if you lose a bunch of ships
Who knows, they may have underestimated you and they will soon crawl back to the hole they came from. Right then and there is the time to declare back on them
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Devil Chaser
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Posted - 2004.09.19 13:48:00 -
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We plan to file a harassment petition if they actually attack us in an area protected by concord. We aren't paying real money to be prevented from enjoying this game by a wayward corporation that EVE allows to harass innocent starting corporations.
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Devil Chaser
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Posted - 2004.09.19 13:48:00 -
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We plan to file a harassment petition if they actually attack us in an area protected by concord. We aren't paying real money to be prevented from enjoying this game by a wayward corporation that EVE allows to harass innocent starting corporations.
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Lester Mako
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Posted - 2004.09.19 14:01:00 -
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Devil Chaser, there is some good advice in this thread already:
a) Look at the number of the players in the warring corp. If less than 5 you have little to worry about, or it may be alts just too lazy or afraid to find real opponents for PvP.
b) Arm some cheap frigs and go after them in civ space. Any PvP experience is good experience. Fighting in a ship that you've put aloot of effort into makes the game much more exciting. My pulse pounds within me when PvP is near or inevitable.
c) EVE is not all about PvP. Those opinions are for the short attention spanning geeks who switch back and forth between EVE and CoD/D00m3/etc. There are allot of other people in EVE, like me, who like to build, trade, explore, do missions, etc. But, believe me, youmust develope some good PvP skills and practice ganking, attacking, working as a group, etc. Practice it one night a week.
Miner, Seller of Minerals, Father |
Lester Mako
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Posted - 2004.09.19 14:01:00 -
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Devil Chaser, there is some good advice in this thread already:
a) Look at the number of the players in the warring corp. If less than 5 you have little to worry about, or it may be alts just too lazy or afraid to find real opponents for PvP.
b) Arm some cheap frigs and go after them in civ space. Any PvP experience is good experience. Fighting in a ship that you've put aloot of effort into makes the game much more exciting. My pulse pounds within me when PvP is near or inevitable.
c) EVE is not all about PvP. Those opinions are for the short attention spanning geeks who switch back and forth between EVE and CoD/D00m3/etc. There are allot of other people in EVE, like me, who like to build, trade, explore, do missions, etc. But, believe me, youmust develope some good PvP skills and practice ganking, attacking, working as a group, etc. Practice it one night a week.
Miner, Seller of Minerals, Father |
nieo
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Posted - 2004.09.19 14:07:00 -
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Devil Chaser, if its regarded harassment just to war declare on another corporation then EVE is dead. This is part of the game.
Adjust & adopt to it or stay docked.
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nieo
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Posted - 2004.09.19 14:07:00 -
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Devil Chaser, if its regarded harassment just to war declare on another corporation then EVE is dead. This is part of the game.
Adjust & adopt to it or stay docked.
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Kitty Claw
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Posted - 2004.09.19 14:15:00 -
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Originally by: Devil Chaser
We plan to file a harassment petition if they actually attack us in an area protected by concord. We aren't paying real money to be prevented from enjoying this game by a wayward corporation that EVE allows to harass innocent starting corporations.
like others already told you , grab some frigates and go blow
them up . its a good chance to try out pvp before you sink
into carebearisim 
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Kitty Claw
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Posted - 2004.09.19 14:15:00 -
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Originally by: Devil Chaser
We plan to file a harassment petition if they actually attack us in an area protected by concord. We aren't paying real money to be prevented from enjoying this game by a wayward corporation that EVE allows to harass innocent starting corporations.
like others already told you , grab some frigates and go blow
them up . its a good chance to try out pvp before you sink
into carebearisim
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Meow |
Ulendar
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Posted - 2004.09.19 14:16:00 -
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Awww isn't that sad...
Why don't you try and see what happens before you start screaming******and murder?!
If you pick up your bags and move to some remote system that you will have all to yourself then you'll prolly never even see any of those guys that declared war on you!
Originally by: cashman
It's time for Eris to get a clue. CCP should make a statement about this.
It's the exact same things as what Zombie did, you may not attack in "safe-areas" (empire/within sentry range) without loosing your ship.
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Ulendar
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Posted - 2004.09.19 14:16:00 -
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Awww isn't that sad...
Why don't you try and see what happens before you start screaming******and murder?!
If you pick up your bags and move to some remote system that you will have all to yourself then you'll prolly never even see any of those guys that declared war on you!
Originally by: cashman
It's time for Eris to get a clue. CCP should make a statement about this.
It's the exact same things as what Zombie did, you may not attack in "safe-areas" (empire/within sentry range) without loosing your ship.
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Nicholas Marshal
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Posted - 2004.09.19 14:29:00 -
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Originally by: babyblue
Originally by: Nicholas Marshal
Wars/pvp are the only real point to eve. Without them, the game would die.
More griefer tripe. In the context of the original poster, it is just a group of muppets trying to get a few easy kills in Empire.
And ? That is part of eve. If these people enjoy that game style, who am I to criticise them ?
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Nicholas Marshal
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Posted - 2004.09.19 14:29:00 -
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Originally by: babyblue
Originally by: Nicholas Marshal
Wars/pvp are the only real point to eve. Without them, the game would die.
More griefer tripe. In the context of the original poster, it is just a group of muppets trying to get a few easy kills in Empire.
And ? That is part of eve. If these people enjoy that game style, who am I to criticise them ?
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Nicholas Marshal
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Posted - 2004.09.19 14:31:00 -
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Originally by: Devil Chaser
We plan to file a harassment petition if they actually attack us in an area protected by concord. We aren't paying real money to be prevented from enjoying this game by a wayward corporation that EVE allows to harass innocent starting corporations.
Oh come on. This is pathetic. If people like you had your way there would be no wars in empire space.
Just stop whining. Fight these people, or move systems etc. You could even hire protection.
Eve is like life - there is ALWAYS someone bigger and nastier than you prepared to annoy people for the sake of it. It is up to your corp to adapt.
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Nicholas Marshal
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Posted - 2004.09.19 14:31:00 -
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Originally by: Devil Chaser
We plan to file a harassment petition if they actually attack us in an area protected by concord. We aren't paying real money to be prevented from enjoying this game by a wayward corporation that EVE allows to harass innocent starting corporations.
Oh come on. This is pathetic. If people like you had your way there would be no wars in empire space.
Just stop whining. Fight these people, or move systems etc. You could even hire protection.
Eve is like life - there is ALWAYS someone bigger and nastier than you prepared to annoy people for the sake of it. It is up to your corp to adapt.
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Chee
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Posted - 2004.09.19 14:39:00 -
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you can petition but it will go straight into the trashcan..
in eve you can declare war on whomever you want, and its not harrasment.. take it or leave it...
Its not enough to succeed. Others must fail. |
Chee
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Posted - 2004.09.19 14:39:00 -
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you can petition but it will go straight into the trashcan..
in eve you can declare war on whomever you want, and its not harrasment.. take it or leave it...
Its not enough to succeed. Others must fail. |
Devil Chaser
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Posted - 2004.09.19 14:42:00 -
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Warlike corps can fight all they want. Players who are not playing the game for corpwars do not need to be harassed by other corps in concord space. THe corp who declared war has 80 members. And their ships are battleship class, at least the ones we've seen.
We pay real $$$ to play this game. I know of no other MMORPG that allows PVP without mutual consent and within sa***uarded areas.
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Devil Chaser
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Posted - 2004.09.19 14:42:00 -
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Warlike corps can fight all they want. Players who are not playing the game for corpwars do not need to be harassed by other corps in concord space. THe corp who declared war has 80 members. And their ships are battleship class, at least the ones we've seen.
We pay real $$$ to play this game. I know of no other MMORPG that allows PVP without mutual consent and within sa***uarded areas.
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Chee
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Posted - 2004.09.19 14:47:00 -
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Edited by: Chee on 19/09/2004 14:51:48
havnt u read the features before u bought the game?
the strong prey on the weak, it happens, adapt to it, this is mmorpg
Edit: I have to add that shiva will improve this, just hold tight till 5 november 
Its not enough to succeed. Others must fail. |
Chee
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Posted - 2004.09.19 14:47:00 -
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Edited by: Chee on 19/09/2004 14:51:48
havnt u read the features before u bought the game?
the strong prey on the weak, it happens, adapt to it, this is mmorpg
Edit: I have to add that shiva will improve this, just hold tight till 5 november
Its not enough to succeed. Others must fail. |
Discorporation
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Posted - 2004.09.19 14:54:00 -
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Originally by: Devil Chaser
Warlike corps can fight all they want. Players who are not playing the game for corpwars do not need to be harassed by other corps in concord space. THe corp who declared war has 80 members. And their ships are battleship class, at least the ones we've seen.
We pay real $$$ to play this game. I know of no other MMORPG that allows PVP without mutual consent and within sa***uarded areas.
Why did they declare war?
Also, which corporation are we talking about? 
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2004.09.19 14:54:00 -
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Originally by: Devil Chaser
Warlike corps can fight all they want. Players who are not playing the game for corpwars do not need to be harassed by other corps in concord space. THe corp who declared war has 80 members. And their ships are battleship class, at least the ones we've seen.
We pay real $$$ to play this game. I know of no other MMORPG that allows PVP without mutual consent and within sa***uarded areas.
Why did they declare war?
Also, which corporation are we talking about?
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Noriath
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Posted - 2004.09.19 15:00:00 -
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I think he's right, even thought PvP may be very interesting in this game, and be most of the content for higher levels, if you are low in level and completly dependent on the security of imperial space to not lose ships you can't replace all the time it's really anoying if there are cheap ways like that to take away that security.
It takes a few months in Eve to get to the point where you can compete in PvP and stand a fighting chance, I really think while you work yourself up to that point you shouldn't have to live in fear of vastly superior ships killing you just for cheap kicks.
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Noriath
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Posted - 2004.09.19 15:00:00 -
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I think he's right, even thought PvP may be very interesting in this game, and be most of the content for higher levels, if you are low in level and completly dependent on the security of imperial space to not lose ships you can't replace all the time it's really anoying if there are cheap ways like that to take away that security.
It takes a few months in Eve to get to the point where you can compete in PvP and stand a fighting chance, I really think while you work yourself up to that point you shouldn't have to live in fear of vastly superior ships killing you just for cheap kicks.
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nieo
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Posted - 2004.09.19 15:20:00 -
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Originally by: Devil Chaser
Warlike corps can fight all they want. Players who are not playing the game for corpwars do not need to be harassed by other corps in concord space. THe corp who declared war has 80 members. And their ships are battleship class, at least the ones we've seen.
Welcome to EVE. War is a very natural part of EVE, embrace it. Its not harassment to declare war on another corporation. Use your wits and get out of it unharmed.
Originally by: Devil Chaser
We pay real $$$ to play this game. I know of no other MMORPG that allows PVP without mutual consent and within sa***uarded areas.
Oh, so do everyone else. It might come as a surprise to you but the rest of us actually have adjusted and accepted that EVE is about interacting with other players. We've seen countless posts like yours over the last year and some have quit EVE due to the fact they don't want to fight others. Move your base of operations around the next couple of weeks and the corporation that have declared war on you will most certainly leave you alone.
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nieo
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Posted - 2004.09.19 15:20:00 -
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Originally by: Devil Chaser
Warlike corps can fight all they want. Players who are not playing the game for corpwars do not need to be harassed by other corps in concord space. THe corp who declared war has 80 members. And their ships are battleship class, at least the ones we've seen.
Welcome to EVE. War is a very natural part of EVE, embrace it. Its not harassment to declare war on another corporation. Use your wits and get out of it unharmed.
Originally by: Devil Chaser
We pay real $$$ to play this game. I know of no other MMORPG that allows PVP without mutual consent and within sa***uarded areas.
Oh, so do everyone else. It might come as a surprise to you but the rest of us actually have adjusted and accepted that EVE is about interacting with other players. We've seen countless posts like yours over the last year and some have quit EVE due to the fact they don't want to fight others. Move your base of operations around the next couple of weeks and the corporation that have declared war on you will most certainly leave you alone.
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Selim
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Posted - 2004.09.19 15:33:00 -
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The problem is that pirating is SO DIFFICULT in empire, that this is the only real easy way to pirate.
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Selim
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Posted - 2004.09.19 15:33:00 -
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The problem is that pirating is SO DIFFICULT in empire, that this is the only real easy way to pirate.
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Excavation Svcs
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Posted - 2004.09.19 15:40:00 -
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Originally by: Selim
that this is the only real easy way to pirate.
Translation: Exploit that will be fixed in Shiva.
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Excavation Svcs
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Posted - 2004.09.19 15:40:00 -
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Originally by: Selim
that this is the only real easy way to pirate.
Translation: Exploit that will be fixed in Shiva.
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Bad'Boy
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Posted - 2004.09.19 15:43:00 -
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Originally by: Excavation Svcs
Originally by: Selim
that this is the only real easy way to pirate.
Translation: Exploit that will be fixed in Shiva.
dont see an exploit in this.....
B.A.D.B.O.Y.: Biomechanical Android Designed for Battle and Online Yelling
"Bad Boys,Bad Boys, what you gonna do, what you gonna do when WE come for yoU"
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Bad'Boy
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Posted - 2004.09.19 15:43:00 -
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Originally by: Excavation Svcs
Originally by: Selim
that this is the only real easy way to pirate.
Translation: Exploit that will be fixed in Shiva.
dont see an exploit in this.....
B.A.D.B.O.Y.: Biomechanical Android Designed for Battle and Online Yelling
"Bad Boys,Bad Boys, what you gonna do, what you gonna do when WE come for yoU"
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Jerry'T
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Posted - 2004.09.19 15:59:00 -
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Originally by: Noriath
I think he's right, even thought PvP may be very interesting in this game, and be most of the content for higher levels, if you are low in level and completly dependent on the security of imperial space to not lose ships you can't replace all the time it's really anoying if there are cheap ways like that to take away that security.
It takes a few months in Eve to get to the point where you can compete in PvP and stand a fighting chance, I really think while you work yourself up to that point you shouldn't have to live in fear of vastly superior ships killing you just for cheap kicks.
Agree with this completely. 
Jerry'T |
Jerry'T
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Posted - 2004.09.19 15:59:00 -
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Originally by: Noriath
I think he's right, even thought PvP may be very interesting in this game, and be most of the content for higher levels, if you are low in level and completly dependent on the security of imperial space to not lose ships you can't replace all the time it's really anoying if there are cheap ways like that to take away that security.
It takes a few months in Eve to get to the point where you can compete in PvP and stand a fighting chance, I really think while you work yourself up to that point you shouldn't have to live in fear of vastly superior ships killing you just for cheap kicks.
Agree with this completely.
Jerry'T |
Origim
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Posted - 2004.09.19 16:20:00 -
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Think of it: What does an 80-member corp in battleships has to gain by harassing new players who are just getting their cruisers? Answer- nothing. By killing new players, their cruisers won't drop a super-uber Covert Ops cloak.
Point is:
A war where the one who has declared the war has NOTHING to gain but the pleasure of slowing someone's progress and thus making them frustrated & upset- griefing/harassing.
A 0.0 war for controll of star systems and other similar types of wars- legit wars.
Ktnxbye.
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Origim
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Posted - 2004.09.19 16:20:00 -
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Think of it: What does an 80-member corp in battleships has to gain by harassing new players who are just getting their cruisers? Answer- nothing. By killing new players, their cruisers won't drop a super-uber Covert Ops cloak.
Point is:
A war where the one who has declared the war has NOTHING to gain but the pleasure of slowing someone's progress and thus making them frustrated & upset- griefing/harassing.
A 0.0 war for controll of star systems and other similar types of wars- legit wars.
Ktnxbye.
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Posting Efficiency / Rank 1 / SP: 68542 of 256000 |
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TIO 101
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Posted - 2004.09.19 16:24:00 -
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so, who is this corp then? as asked once before ^^
h4xb4n
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TIO 101
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Posted - 2004.09.19 16:24:00 -
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so, who is this corp then? as asked once before ^^
h4xb4n
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Clyde Barrow
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Posted - 2004.09.19 16:35:00 -
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Edited by: Clyde Barrow on 19/09/2004 16:38:05
Originally by: fairimear
u can blame the devs for this its the only way for pirates to pirate in empire with the new uber gank concord flag system.
You can blame the "pirates" for the uber concord flag system. I remember a time when concord weren't so uber - infact it was quite possible to fight them or escape from them and there wasn't any timer at all.
But as always some "pirates" abused the system and ganked 1-week old noobs in starter systems. Hence the beefed-up and totally unrelaistc uber concord we have today.
Don't blame the devs. Blame the early griefers for what we have today 
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Clyde Barrow
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Posted - 2004.09.19 16:35:00 -
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Edited by: Clyde Barrow on 19/09/2004 16:38:05
Originally by: fairimear
u can blame the devs for this its the only way for pirates to pirate in empire with the new uber gank concord flag system.
You can blame the "pirates" for the uber concord flag system. I remember a time when concord weren't so uber - infact it was quite possible to fight them or escape from them and there wasn't any timer at all.
But as always some "pirates" abused the system and ganked 1-week old noobs in starter systems. Hence the beefed-up and totally unrelaistc uber concord we have today.
Don't blame the devs. Blame the early griefers for what we have today
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Kahn Moquil
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Posted - 2004.09.19 16:36:00 -
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Originally by: Origim
Think of it: What does an 80-member corp in battleships has to gain by harassing new players who are just getting their cruisers? Answer- nothing. By killing new players, their cruisers won't drop a super-uber Covert Ops cloak.
Point is:
A war where the one who has declared the war has NOTHING to gain but the pleasure of slowing someone's progress and thus making them frustrated & upset- griefing/harassing.
A 0.0 war for controll of star systems and other similar types of wars- legit wars.
Ktnxbye.
Wouldn't it make much more sense to assume that this 80-member corp all in battleships doesn't exist? I've seen a lot in Eve, but I can't for the life of me imagine 80 griefers all in the same corp, especially as nobody here even seems to have a clue who they are.
If there really was an 80-member griefer corp declaring war on newbies out there, don't you think half the community would've known who they were by now?
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Kahn Moquil
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Posted - 2004.09.19 16:36:00 -
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Originally by: Origim
Think of it: What does an 80-member corp in battleships has to gain by harassing new players who are just getting their cruisers? Answer- nothing. By killing new players, their cruisers won't drop a super-uber Covert Ops cloak.
Point is:
A war where the one who has declared the war has NOTHING to gain but the pleasure of slowing someone's progress and thus making them frustrated & upset- griefing/harassing.
A 0.0 war for controll of star systems and other similar types of wars- legit wars.
Ktnxbye.
Wouldn't it make much more sense to assume that this 80-member corp all in battleships doesn't exist? I've seen a lot in Eve, but I can't for the life of me imagine 80 griefers all in the same corp, especially as nobody here even seems to have a clue who they are.
If there really was an 80-member griefer corp declaring war on newbies out there, don't you think half the community would've known who they were by now?
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Bad'Boy
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Posted - 2004.09.19 16:47:00 -
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Originally by: Kahn Moquil
Originally by: Origim
Think of it: What does an 80-member corp in battleships has to gain by harassing new players who are just getting their cruisers? Answer- nothing. By killing new players, their cruisers won't drop a super-uber Covert Ops cloak.
Point is:
A war where the one who has declared the war has NOTHING to gain but the pleasure of slowing someone's progress and thus making them frustrated & upset- griefing/harassing.
A 0.0 war for controll of star systems and other similar types of wars- legit wars.
Ktnxbye.
Wouldn't it make much more sense to assume that this 80-member corp all in battleships doesn't exist? I've seen a lot in Eve, but I can't for the life of me imagine 80 griefers all in the same corp, especially as nobody here even seems to have a clue who they are.
If there really was an 80-member griefer corp declaring war on newbies out there, don't you think half the community would've known who they were by now?
CA?
B.A.D.B.O.Y.: Biomechanical Android Designed for Battle and Online Yelling
"Bad Boys,Bad Boys, what you gonna do, what you gonna do when WE come for yoU"
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Bad'Boy
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Posted - 2004.09.19 16:47:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Kahn Moquil
Originally by: Origim
Think of it: What does an 80-member corp in battleships has to gain by harassing new players who are just getting their cruisers? Answer- nothing. By killing new players, their cruisers won't drop a super-uber Covert Ops cloak.
Point is:
A war where the one who has declared the war has NOTHING to gain but the pleasure of slowing someone's progress and thus making them frustrated & upset- griefing/harassing.
A 0.0 war for controll of star systems and other similar types of wars- legit wars.
Ktnxbye.
Wouldn't it make much more sense to assume that this 80-member corp all in battleships doesn't exist? I've seen a lot in Eve, but I can't for the life of me imagine 80 griefers all in the same corp, especially as nobody here even seems to have a clue who they are.
If there really was an 80-member griefer corp declaring war on newbies out there, don't you think half the community would've known who they were by now?
CA?
B.A.D.B.O.Y.: Biomechanical Android Designed for Battle and Online Yelling
"Bad Boys,Bad Boys, what you gonna do, what you gonna do when WE come for yoU"
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Maud Dib
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Posted - 2004.09.19 16:53:00 -
[61]
Until we hear which giant uber pirate corp war dec his the entire discussion is worthless. I suspect either there is no war dec or another small corp war dec'd them because of mining or something equally boring but explainable.
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Maud Dib
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Posted - 2004.09.19 16:53:00 -
[62]
Until we hear which giant uber pirate corp war dec his the entire discussion is worthless. I suspect either there is no war dec or another small corp war dec'd them because of mining or something equally boring but explainable.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.09.19 17:07:00 -
[63]
Don't want a war?
Don't join a corp.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.09.19 17:07:00 -
[64]
Don't want a war?
Don't join a corp.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Procion
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Posted - 2004.09.19 17:24:00 -
[65]
ccp should just create a small shard for the carebears to join see how bored they get.
they would all be begging to be put on the pvp server within a few months
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Procion
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Posted - 2004.09.19 17:24:00 -
[66]
ccp should just create a small shard for the carebears to join see how bored they get.
they would all be begging to be put on the pvp server within a few months
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2004.09.19 17:36:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Maud Dib
Until we hear which giant uber pirate corp war dec his the entire discussion is worthless. I suspect either there is no war dec or another small corp war dec'd them because of mining or something equally boring but explainable.
Devil Chaser is currently in a 2 man corp, and there's no wardec to that corp on the corp war overview (if it's accurate, nfi).
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2004.09.19 17:36:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Maud Dib
Until we hear which giant uber pirate corp war dec his the entire discussion is worthless. I suspect either there is no war dec or another small corp war dec'd them because of mining or something equally boring but explainable.
Devil Chaser is currently in a 2 man corp, and there's no wardec to that corp on the corp war overview (if it's accurate, nfi).
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2004.09.19 17:41:00 -
[69]
It could be just a rivalling mining outfit trying to force them to relocate, an as legitimate reason as any, regardless of character status.
Convert Stations
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2004.09.19 17:41:00 -
[70]
It could be just a rivalling mining outfit trying to force them to relocate, an as legitimate reason as any, regardless of character status.
Convert Stations
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D' Ryian
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Posted - 2004.09.19 18:45:00 -
[71]
and this is the same devil chaser runnin about in Bagodan stealing ore 
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D' Ryian
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Posted - 2004.09.19 18:45:00 -
[72]
and this is the same devil chaser runnin about in Bagodan stealing ore
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F'nog
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Posted - 2004.09.19 21:07:00 -
[73]
Originally by: D' Ryian
and this is the same devil chaser runnin about in Bagodan stealing ore
Oh dear, perhaps this isn't such a pointless war after all. Sounds like you ****ed off the wrong people DC, and now you have to pay for it.
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F'nog
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Posted - 2004.09.19 21:07:00 -
[74]
Originally by: D' Ryian
and this is the same devil chaser runnin about in Bagodan stealing ore
Oh dear, perhaps this isn't such a pointless war after all. Sounds like you ****ed off the wrong people DC, and now you have to pay for it.
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Daald
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Posted - 2004.09.19 22:08:00 -
[75]
This guy that is complaining is an ore thief?
Damn...the system actually works!!!
Tell us yor corp name so you can have a few more wars just for PvP practice :)
P.S. If you are an ore thief, you shouldn't make a corp....it could be hazardous 
And if you are not, you already have received plenty of good advice. Don't be lame and petition.
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Daald
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Posted - 2004.09.19 22:08:00 -
[76]
This guy that is complaining is an ore thief?
Damn...the system actually works!!!
Tell us yor corp name so you can have a few more wars just for PvP practice :)
P.S. If you are an ore thief, you shouldn't make a corp....it could be hazardous
And if you are not, you already have received plenty of good advice. Don't be lame and petition.
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F'nog
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Posted - 2004.09.19 22:41:00 -
[77]
Edited by: F'nog on 20/09/2004 06:18:50
Edited in light of Harry's disclosure of bad databases.
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F'nog
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Posted - 2004.09.19 22:41:00 -
[78]
Edited by: F'nog on 20/09/2004 06:18:50
Edited in light of Harry's disclosure of bad databases.
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Harry Voyager
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Posted - 2004.09.19 22:49:00 -
[79]
Edited by: Harry Voyager on 19/09/2004 22:53:10
Good advice does not a PvPer make.
Neither an alt's word does truth espouse.
Frankly this is likely a war started by PvP vets that felt the need to munch on some newbies, because they are to scared to take on someone near their level. If that is the case, you are dead. Flitting around in frigates will merely prolong it, not diverting it. They may even find it "fun" fighting an enemy that has some clue what it is doing. Your only weapon against them is to deprive them of their "fun".
Harry Voyager
F'Nog, the war posting are notoriously buggy. My corp still has a war posted against it by a corporation that doesn't even exist anymore.
This is Eve; you can't expect the databases to actually work.
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Harry Voyager
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Posted - 2004.09.19 22:49:00 -
[80]
Edited by: Harry Voyager on 19/09/2004 22:53:10
Good advice does not a PvPer make.
Neither an alt's word does truth espouse.
Frankly this is likely a war started by PvP vets that felt the need to munch on some newbies, because they are to scared to take on someone near their level. If that is the case, you are dead. Flitting around in frigates will merely prolong it, not diverting it. They may even find it "fun" fighting an enemy that has some clue what it is doing. Your only weapon against them is to deprive them of their "fun".
Harry Voyager
F'Nog, the war posting are notoriously buggy. My corp still has a war posted against it by a corporation that doesn't even exist anymore.
This is Eve; you can't expect the databases to actually work.
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Krysus
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Posted - 2004.09.19 22:52:00 -
[81]
I think that corp withdrew on the war thing, so DC corp is ok now. But, good point, some jackass looking to relieve some angst because he's a fat kid and got mugged for milk money at school shouldn't translate into "attack the new guys since that's all I can do" corp war...
Also, I fly around with DC and company all the time, we hunt rats and run trade routes to sell the items. WHoever said he's an ore thief is a flippin liar, I don't think he could/would in a punisher. Probably some idiot that saw us attack rats and loot the cargo cans they drop in the asteroid field they were in and wanted something to cry about?
I'm pretty sure it doesn't help EVE to make money, if you're new and in .5+ space and get attacked by random butt monkeys who just want to fight with new players so they can win at something for once in their life. There's a PVP space (and lots of it) for a reason.
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Krysus
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Posted - 2004.09.19 22:52:00 -
[82]
I think that corp withdrew on the war thing, so DC corp is ok now. But, good point, some jackass looking to relieve some angst because he's a fat kid and got mugged for milk money at school shouldn't translate into "attack the new guys since that's all I can do" corp war...
Also, I fly around with DC and company all the time, we hunt rats and run trade routes to sell the items. WHoever said he's an ore thief is a flippin liar, I don't think he could/would in a punisher. Probably some idiot that saw us attack rats and loot the cargo cans they drop in the asteroid field they were in and wanted something to cry about?
I'm pretty sure it doesn't help EVE to make money, if you're new and in .5+ space and get attacked by random butt monkeys who just want to fight with new players so they can win at something for once in their life. There's a PVP space (and lots of it) for a reason.
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veloras cain
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Posted - 2004.09.19 23:46:00 -
[83]
try joining an alliance ppl genrally leave you alone when they know u have friends with big ships too if u dont want to do that try taking the war to them. find out where there home system is and hunt them down one by one with your corp mates annoy them while they mine by destroying there cans that kind of stuff works
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veloras cain
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Posted - 2004.09.19 23:46:00 -
[84]
try joining an alliance ppl genrally leave you alone when they know u have friends with big ships too if u dont want to do that try taking the war to them. find out where there home system is and hunt them down one by one with your corp mates annoy them while they mine by destroying there cans that kind of stuff works
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Aeyo'Wulf
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Posted - 2004.09.20 00:01:00 -
[85]
Actually. If you stop whining about this and sit back and think about it there's lots that you can do without ever firing a shot.
Ok. Here's a hint, work the rest out for yourselves.
You are a small, flexable Corp.
Your opponants are a large Corperation, with lots invested in it and probably not to flexable.
Corperations can only declare upto 3 wars.
A war against a dead Corp ( a Corp with no members or perhaps an Alt just sitting in as CEO) ties up a war slot.
Seeing as both CEO's have to be in station together to end a war you have a nice market for selling back that war slot to them.
I'm not saying it's a nice way to conduct a war, and I'm sure that there are many people sat there thinking "WTF" and typing back lots of things with lots of expletives in.
But a basic tenent of war is. You don't fight on their terms. So think about it, do something different and fight on your terms
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Aeyo'Wulf
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Posted - 2004.09.20 00:01:00 -
[86]
Actually. If you stop whining about this and sit back and think about it there's lots that you can do without ever firing a shot.
Ok. Here's a hint, work the rest out for yourselves.
You are a small, flexable Corp.
Your opponants are a large Corperation, with lots invested in it and probably not to flexable.
Corperations can only declare upto 3 wars.
A war against a dead Corp ( a Corp with no members or perhaps an Alt just sitting in as CEO) ties up a war slot.
Seeing as both CEO's have to be in station together to end a war you have a nice market for selling back that war slot to them.
I'm not saying it's a nice way to conduct a war, and I'm sure that there are many people sat there thinking "WTF" and typing back lots of things with lots of expletives in.
But a basic tenent of war is. You don't fight on their terms. So think about it, do something different and fight on your terms
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D' Ryian
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Posted - 2004.09.20 00:02:00 -
[87]
Originally by: Krysus
I think that corp withdrew on the war thing, so DC corp is ok now. But, good point, some jackass looking to relieve some angst because he's a fat kid and got mugged for milk money at school shouldn't translate into "attack the new guys since that's all I can do" corp war...
Also, I fly around with DC and company all the time, we hunt rats and run trade routes to sell the items. WHoever said he's an ore thief is a flippin liar, I don't think he could/would in a punisher. Probably some idiot that saw us attack rats and loot the cargo cans they drop in the asteroid field they were in and wanted something to cry about?
I'm pretty sure it doesn't help EVE to make money, if you're new and in .5+ space and get attacked by random butt monkeys who just want to fight with new players so they can win at something for once in their life. There's a PVP space (and lots of it) for a reason.
sure....
[ 2004.09.19 16:36:44 ] hybrid88 > f''k u devil
[ 2004.09.19 16:37:23 ] Devil Chaser > wow i'm loved
[ 2004.09.19 16:37:55 ] hybrid88 > lol
[ 2004.09.19 16:38:12 ] hybrid88 > well..it was just veld and scor
[ 2004.09.19 16:38:33 ] Devil Chaser > scor gets me alot of $$$
[ 2004.09.19 16:38:41 ] Devil Chaser > for no work
[ 2004.09.19 16:39:03 ] Devil Chaser > thx
[ 2004.09.19 16:39:44 ] hybrid88 > think I'm goin to pod you when I get the chance
[ 2004.09.19 16:40:24 ] hybrid88 > and it will feel gooood
[ 2004.09.19 16:41:09 ] Devil Chaser > it will feel good when concord wastes your ship
[ 2004.09.19 16:42:01 ] hybrid88 > I don't care I have ships on stock
[ 2004.09.19 16:42:48 ] Devil Chaser > well im insured and cloned so it doesn't affect me
[ 2004.09.19 16:48:56 ] hybrid88 > well it's decided
[ 2004.09.19 16:52:03 ] hybrid88 > I'll pod you in a few days then.. if you show up outside station
[ 2004.09.19 16:55:37 ] Devil Chaser > k cool lookin forward to it. Bring a ship you dont mind losing
[ 2004.09.19 16:55:56 ] hybrid88 > ya =)
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D' Ryian
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Posted - 2004.09.20 00:02:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Krysus
I think that corp withdrew on the war thing, so DC corp is ok now. But, good point, some jackass looking to relieve some angst because he's a fat kid and got mugged for milk money at school shouldn't translate into "attack the new guys since that's all I can do" corp war...
Also, I fly around with DC and company all the time, we hunt rats and run trade routes to sell the items. WHoever said he's an ore thief is a flippin liar, I don't think he could/would in a punisher. Probably some idiot that saw us attack rats and loot the cargo cans they drop in the asteroid field they were in and wanted something to cry about?
I'm pretty sure it doesn't help EVE to make money, if you're new and in .5+ space and get attacked by random butt monkeys who just want to fight with new players so they can win at something for once in their life. There's a PVP space (and lots of it) for a reason.
sure....
[ 2004.09.19 16:36:44 ] hybrid88 > f''k u devil
[ 2004.09.19 16:37:23 ] Devil Chaser > wow i'm loved
[ 2004.09.19 16:37:55 ] hybrid88 > lol
[ 2004.09.19 16:38:12 ] hybrid88 > well..it was just veld and scor
[ 2004.09.19 16:38:33 ] Devil Chaser > scor gets me alot of $$$
[ 2004.09.19 16:38:41 ] Devil Chaser > for no work
[ 2004.09.19 16:39:03 ] Devil Chaser > thx
[ 2004.09.19 16:39:44 ] hybrid88 > think I'm goin to pod you when I get the chance
[ 2004.09.19 16:40:24 ] hybrid88 > and it will feel gooood
[ 2004.09.19 16:41:09 ] Devil Chaser > it will feel good when concord wastes your ship
[ 2004.09.19 16:42:01 ] hybrid88 > I don't care I have ships on stock
[ 2004.09.19 16:42:48 ] Devil Chaser > well im insured and cloned so it doesn't affect me
[ 2004.09.19 16:48:56 ] hybrid88 > well it's decided
[ 2004.09.19 16:52:03 ] hybrid88 > I'll pod you in a few days then.. if you show up outside station
[ 2004.09.19 16:55:37 ] Devil Chaser > k cool lookin forward to it. Bring a ship you dont mind losing
[ 2004.09.19 16:55:56 ] hybrid88 > ya =)
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Serena Greyskull
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Posted - 2004.09.20 01:09:00 -
[89]
Thanks for that info.
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Serena Greyskull
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Posted - 2004.09.20 01:09:00 -
[90]
Thanks for that info.
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Krysus
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Posted - 2004.09.20 02:03:00 -
[91]
Edited by: Krysus on 20/09/2004 02:08:10
Looks more like your threatening than shows he stole ore. Taken out of context, you could be complaining because he's mining in an ore field you think "belongs to you". Could be true, could be the second one, too.
More proof, plz.
Wait, are you that guy that targeted me when I was shooting at rats in the belt you were mining in and told me to "f* off" (in a low cargo space rifter, as if I would come over to rob you)?
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Krysus
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Posted - 2004.09.20 02:03:00 -
[92]
Edited by: Krysus on 20/09/2004 02:08:10
Looks more like your threatening than shows he stole ore. Taken out of context, you could be complaining because he's mining in an ore field you think "belongs to you". Could be true, could be the second one, too.
More proof, plz.
Wait, are you that guy that targeted me when I was shooting at rats in the belt you were mining in and told me to "f* off" (in a low cargo space rifter, as if I would come over to rob you)?
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thrillhaus
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Posted - 2004.09.20 02:46:00 -
[93]
Originally by: D' Ryian
and this is the same devil chaser runnin about in Bagodan stealing ore
I can answer this in one song title:
"Sympathy for a Devil"
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thrillhaus
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Posted - 2004.09.20 02:46:00 -
[94]
Originally by: D' Ryian
and this is the same devil chaser runnin about in Bagodan stealing ore
I can answer this in one song title:
"Sympathy for a Devil"
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Domalais
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Posted - 2004.09.20 02:54:00 -
[95]
Originally by: Krysus
Wait, are you that guy that targeted me when I was shooting at rats in the belt you were mining in and told me to "f* off" (in a low cargo space rifter, as if I would come over to rob you)?
When posting with alts to try and defend your sorry ass, don't be an idiot.
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Domalais
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Posted - 2004.09.20 02:54:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Krysus
Wait, are you that guy that targeted me when I was shooting at rats in the belt you were mining in and told me to "f* off" (in a low cargo space rifter, as if I would come over to rob you)?
When posting with alts to try and defend your sorry ass, don't be an idiot.
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Hanns
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Posted - 2004.09.20 03:50:00 -
[97]
This thread has "creator is an idiot" written allover it!
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Hanns
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Posted - 2004.09.20 03:50:00 -
[98]
This thread has "creator is an idiot" written allover it!
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Devil Chaser
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Posted - 2004.09.20 03:55:00 -
[99]
Ore stealing has plenty of threads posted on these forums already. No point in trudging it up here again. The point of this thread was to help us understand what our options are when declared war against by an overpowering corp. So far they have not attacked us yet, despite promises to blockade our section of space (it's in a dead-end area). And if they do, we will probably just dissolve the corp so it is once again illegal to attack our members.
I found this entry in the official EVE knowledge base. So far as I can tell, storing ore in jetcans is considered an exploit. So if anyone is complaining about people stealing ore (I've seen some ore thieves myself but never had to deal with them since we use secure containers) they should read the knowledge base.
Eve Knowledge Base:
Question
Why is it so easy to steal ore ?
Answer
The regular containers were designed to jettison unwanted items into space or to hold loot from blown up ships. They were designed so that any player could take from them because that was essential for them to function as they were intended. Players later invented the "container mining" method after noticing that the containers could hold way more than any cargo hold. This use for the containers was never intended and it has the obvious flaw that any player with a reduced sense of right and wrong can come by and take everything from the container and no one can do anything about it.
The bottom line is: If you use regular containers to store your ore you assume all the risk. Having your valuables floating in space in an unsecured container is equivalent to throwing money on the street. Should you lurk nearby and wait for someone to take the money and then attack him, the police would deal with you, not him. The same goes in Eve. If you attack a player who just took "your" ore from a regular container in a system with a security level of 0.5 or higher. You will be destroyed by Concord.
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Devil Chaser
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Posted - 2004.09.20 03:55:00 -
[100]
Ore stealing has plenty of threads posted on these forums already. No point in trudging it up here again. The point of this thread was to help us understand what our options are when declared war against by an overpowering corp. So far they have not attacked us yet, despite promises to blockade our section of space (it's in a dead-end area). And if they do, we will probably just dissolve the corp so it is once again illegal to attack our members.
I found this entry in the official EVE knowledge base. So far as I can tell, storing ore in jetcans is considered an exploit. So if anyone is complaining about people stealing ore (I've seen some ore thieves myself but never had to deal with them since we use secure containers) they should read the knowledge base.
Eve Knowledge Base:
Question
Why is it so easy to steal ore ?
Answer
The regular containers were designed to jettison unwanted items into space or to hold loot from blown up ships. They were designed so that any player could take from them because that was essential for them to function as they were intended. Players later invented the "container mining" method after noticing that the containers could hold way more than any cargo hold. This use for the containers was never intended and it has the obvious flaw that any player with a reduced sense of right and wrong can come by and take everything from the container and no one can do anything about it.
The bottom line is: If you use regular containers to store your ore you assume all the risk. Having your valuables floating in space in an unsecured container is equivalent to throwing money on the street. Should you lurk nearby and wait for someone to take the money and then attack him, the police would deal with you, not him. The same goes in Eve. If you attack a player who just took "your" ore from a regular container in a system with a security level of 0.5 or higher. You will be destroyed by Concord.
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Funky Monkey
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Posted - 2004.09.20 04:51:00 -
[101]
Edited by: Funky Monkey on 20/09/2004 04:53:16
So . by your own admission Devil Chaser you are an "Ore Hor".. you were stupid enough to form a corp, and go out snarfing cans on people. Let's look at it from YOUR point of view.. I might drop my money on the street... but I'm going to kick the stuffing out of the cheezbag that picks it up and tries to walk away with it.
You've officially lost all sympathy from 99% of the readers ... but I'll give you high marks for "*******" the size of basketballs, you theif ore.. then come and complain on the FORUMS when you get a war declared on you... LOL>. Ye gods man. how thick can you possibly be??
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Funky Monkey
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Posted - 2004.09.20 04:51:00 -
[102]
Edited by: Funky Monkey on 20/09/2004 04:53:16
So . by your own admission Devil Chaser you are an "Ore Hor".. you were stupid enough to form a corp, and go out snarfing cans on people. Let's look at it from YOUR point of view.. I might drop my money on the street... but I'm going to kick the stuffing out of the cheezbag that picks it up and tries to walk away with it.
You've officially lost all sympathy from 99% of the readers ... but I'll give you high marks for "*******" the size of basketballs, you theif ore.. then come and complain on the FORUMS when you get a war declared on you... LOL>. Ye gods man. how thick can you possibly be??
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Mynobe Soletae
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Posted - 2004.09.20 05:42:00 -
[103]
Heh heh heh, this thread is funny.
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Mynobe Soletae
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Posted - 2004.09.20 05:42:00 -
[104]
Heh heh heh, this thread is funny.
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Infinity Ziona
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Posted - 2004.09.20 05:52:00 -
[105]
The option to disband is ALWAYS available if you can't handle a war against a corporation. In light of this fact, your complaint makes no sense whatsoever. Disband the corp, hide or fight.
Infinity Ziona
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Infinity Ziona
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Posted - 2004.09.20 05:52:00 -
[106]
The option to disband is ALWAYS available if you can't handle a war against a corporation. In light of this fact, your complaint makes no sense whatsoever. Disband the corp, hide or fight.
Infinity Ziona
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F'nog
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Posted - 2004.09.20 06:18:00 -
[107]
Edited by: F'nog on 20/09/2004 06:26:23
Ooo, an ore thief who formed his own corp. Sounds great. I gotta get my corp to declare on them.
I especially like how an admitted ore thief is complaining that a corp is "unfairly" declaring war on him for "no" reason.
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F'nog
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Posted - 2004.09.20 06:18:00 -
[108]
Edited by: F'nog on 20/09/2004 06:26:23
Ooo, an ore thief who formed his own corp. Sounds great. I gotta get my corp to declare on them.
I especially like how an admitted ore thief is complaining that a corp is "unfairly" declaring war on him for "no" reason.
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Mynobe Soletae
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Posted - 2004.09.20 06:54:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Infinity Ziona
your complaint makes no sense whatsoever
He wrote the complaint in order to win our hearts with his plea of being a helpless newbie, so we'd make available the wealth of knowledge, good will, and perhaps even a bit of ISK, and tell him exactly what his options are during a war, and how he can avoid its consequences.
It was truly a magnificent piece of fiction, and it had the desired effect up until the point where his real habits were revealed.
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Mynobe Soletae
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Posted - 2004.09.20 06:54:00 -
[110]
Originally by: Infinity Ziona
your complaint makes no sense whatsoever
He wrote the complaint in order to win our hearts with his plea of being a helpless newbie, so we'd make available the wealth of knowledge, good will, and perhaps even a bit of ISK, and tell him exactly what his options are during a war, and how he can avoid its consequences.
It was truly a magnificent piece of fiction, and it had the desired effect up until the point where his real habits were revealed.
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ruro
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Posted - 2004.09.20 07:04:00 -
[111]
Initially I felt sorry for the guy, but as soon as I found out he'd been stealing ore and was getting some pay back for it, my sympathy and I imagine the sympathy of everybody else evaporated.
Lesson: Don't steal ore if you can't handle the war.
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ruro
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Posted - 2004.09.20 07:04:00 -
[112]
Initially I felt sorry for the guy, but as soon as I found out he'd been stealing ore and was getting some pay back for it, my sympathy and I imagine the sympathy of everybody else evaporated.
Lesson: Don't steal ore if you can't handle the war.
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2004.09.20 07:16:00 -
[113]
lol all these people who get ****ed over a corp making a war against some 'newbs', people allready got their judgement ready while knowing half the facts.. damn funny, lol.
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2004.09.20 07:16:00 -
[114]
lol all these people who get ****ed over a corp making a war against some 'newbs', people allready got their judgement ready while knowing half the facts.. damn funny, lol.
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meowcat
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Posted - 2004.09.20 09:40:00 -
[115]
Originally by: Nicholas Marshal
Wars/pvp are the only real point to eve. Without them, the game would die.
what he said
he's right, even if he is a nasty stinky pirate |
meowcat
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Posted - 2004.09.20 09:40:00 -
[116]
Originally by: Nicholas Marshal
Wars/pvp are the only real point to eve. Without them, the game would die.
what he said
he's right, even if he is a nasty stinky pirate |
voodoo
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Posted - 2004.09.20 10:45:00 -
[117]
Originally by: Devil Chaser
So far they have not attacked us yet, despite promises to blockade our section of space (it's in a dead-end area).
So you are trying to claim a section of space ... plus If I read correctly you stole some ore?
Then when a corp says hold on this is our space, you're trying ask why you have a war on you..
Your quote says it all " our section of space" you don't own it if you cant hold it.
So to answer your original question, yes this would be normal in eve.
The Blue Pills Make Me Happy |
voodoo
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Posted - 2004.09.20 10:45:00 -
[118]
Originally by: Devil Chaser
So far they have not attacked us yet, despite promises to blockade our section of space (it's in a dead-end area).
So you are trying to claim a section of space ... plus If I read correctly you stole some ore?
Then when a corp says hold on this is our space, you're trying ask why you have a war on you..
Your quote says it all " our section of space" you don't own it if you cant hold it.
So to answer your original question, yes this would be normal in eve.
The Blue Pills Make Me Happy |
Darkwolf
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Posted - 2004.09.20 11:01:00 -
[119]
LMFAO!!!
You had my sympathy for a bit, until you came out with the "I'm allowed to steal ore" thing. Yes, you are allowed to steal ore, but don't be surprised when your victims find a way to get back at you. Violently.
Suck it up, bucko. You did the crime, now pay the penalty.
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Darkwolf
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Posted - 2004.09.20 11:01:00 -
[120]
LMFAO!!!
You had my sympathy for a bit, until you came out with the "I'm allowed to steal ore" thing. Yes, you are allowed to steal ore, but don't be surprised when your victims find a way to get back at you. Violently.
Suck it up, bucko. You did the crime, now pay the penalty.
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Draysea
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Posted - 2004.09.20 12:29:00 -
[121]
I read this whole thing because I didn't think the poster was actually an ore thief.
Now he's an ore thief who has wasted my time!
I'll be declaring war on your corp DC, you'd better watch for me in local!
Claiming you're being harassed! Gimme a break!
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Draysea
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Posted - 2004.09.20 12:29:00 -
[122]
I read this whole thing because I didn't think the poster was actually an ore thief.
Now he's an ore thief who has wasted my time!
I'll be declaring war on your corp DC, you'd better watch for me in local!
Claiming you're being harassed! Gimme a break!
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Reapo
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Posted - 2004.09.20 12:31:00 -
[123]
I just saw this topic and thought id share.
Created a corp 2 weeks ago or so, only 4 members tho, me and the person who set it up have alts.
And last night, got an eve mail, basically do the followin, delete your bio or kick your amarr out ( which is the person who i set it up with ) or move out of the system.
Only cos my bio is in reference with a different race we get this mail. iam minmatar and my m8 is amarr, so f%%%%%% what.
Some people really do take this game to far :)
so all i do is delete my bio and were ok, seems stupid to me.
but if we was stronger i would have not done this.
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Reapo
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Posted - 2004.09.20 12:31:00 -
[124]
I just saw this topic and thought id share.
Created a corp 2 weeks ago or so, only 4 members tho, me and the person who set it up have alts.
And last night, got an eve mail, basically do the followin, delete your bio or kick your amarr out ( which is the person who i set it up with ) or move out of the system.
Only cos my bio is in reference with a different race we get this mail. iam minmatar and my m8 is amarr, so f%%%%%% what.
Some people really do take this game to far :)
so all i do is delete my bio and were ok, seems stupid to me.
but if we was stronger i would have not done this.
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Zarik Wan
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Posted - 2004.09.20 12:32:00 -
[125]
Edited by: Zarik Wan on 20/09/2004 12:35:03
OMG.. this is a funniest
Why would complain about being declared war on when your stealing from them... 
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Zarik Wan
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Posted - 2004.09.20 12:32:00 -
[126]
Edited by: Zarik Wan on 20/09/2004 12:35:03
OMG.. this is a funniest
Why would complain about being declared war on when your stealing from them...
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Go n'ÚirÝ an t-ßdh leat (Good Luck
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Bhaal
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Posted - 2004.09.20 12:44:00 -
[127]
Edited by: Bhaal on 20/09/2004 13:01:41
Edited by: Bhaal on 20/09/2004 13:01:04
Quote:
the only way for pirates to pirate in empire
What an idiotic statement...
Pirates do not belong in 0.5 to 1.0 space... (Corp wars anyone?)
However, I see no problem with declaring war on anyone you please...
Corp Wars should be the main installment of PvP in this game...
I would not dissolve your corp over this, I'd keep going about your business (If your ore stealing habits are causing you grief, well, uhm, no sympathy from me...), try to get all your corp war enemies in your buddy list, and just watch local... Chances are they will only be using frigates to fight you...
If you have absolutely no desire to defend your corp, then, quite honestly you should not start one in the first place IMHO...
I will say this; it should be more costly for a corp to pick a fight than it currently is, and it should cost even more to back out of that fight if you get "bored" with the war you started...
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Bhaal
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Posted - 2004.09.20 12:44:00 -
[128]
Edited by: Bhaal on 20/09/2004 13:01:41
Edited by: Bhaal on 20/09/2004 13:01:04
Quote:
the only way for pirates to pirate in empire
What an idiotic statement...
Pirates do not belong in 0.5 to 1.0 space... (Corp wars anyone?)
However, I see no problem with declaring war on anyone you please...
Corp Wars should be the main installment of PvP in this game...
I would not dissolve your corp over this, I'd keep going about your business (If your ore stealing habits are causing you grief, well, uhm, no sympathy from me...), try to get all your corp war enemies in your buddy list, and just watch local... Chances are they will only be using frigates to fight you...
If you have absolutely no desire to defend your corp, then, quite honestly you should not start one in the first place IMHO...
I will say this; it should be more costly for a corp to pick a fight than it currently is, and it should cost even more to back out of that fight if you get "bored" with the war you started...
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Assassin 2
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Posted - 2004.09.20 12:59:00 -
[129]
for a payment My corp can offer protection, we dont take ppl easily tbh so f your hiring us its good protection for you.
Thanks.
A2
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Assassin 2
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Posted - 2004.09.20 12:59:00 -
[130]
for a payment My corp can offer protection, we dont take ppl easily tbh so f your hiring us its good protection for you.
Thanks.
A2
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Omega Man
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Posted - 2004.09.20 13:13:00 -
[131]
An ore thief talking about griefing and petitioning because his actions have caused a corp to declare war on him.
It is sort of funny for about a nanosecond, and then you realise the future of this game could well lie in the hands of players like this and their moaning and continual petitioning.
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Omega Man
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Posted - 2004.09.20 13:13:00 -
[132]
An ore thief talking about griefing and petitioning because his actions have caused a corp to declare war on him.
It is sort of funny for about a nanosecond, and then you realise the future of this game could well lie in the hands of players like this and their moaning and continual petitioning.
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flummox
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Posted - 2004.09.20 13:57:00 -
[133]
what a maroon!
what's your corp again? where's that dead-end system? average eve-time playing hours are? c'mon, man. if you're gonna be stoopid, at least go all the way...
there is a fine, but dissasterous line between a fart and a shart. i suggest you make sure which side you want to be on... |
flummox
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Posted - 2004.09.20 13:57:00 -
[134]
what a maroon!
what's your corp again? where's that dead-end system? average eve-time playing hours are? c'mon, man. if you're gonna be stoopid, at least go all the way...
there is a fine, but dissasterous line between a fart and a shart. i suggest you make sure which side you want to be on... |
Lizaa
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Posted - 2004.09.20 13:58:00 -
[135]
[ 2004.09.19 16:36:44 ] hybrid88 > f''k u devil
[ 2004.09.19 16:37:23 ] Devil Chaser > wow i'm loved
[ 2004.09.19 16:37:55 ] hybrid88 > lol
[ 2004.09.19 16:38:12 ] hybrid88 > well..it was just veld and scor
[ 2004.09.19 16:38:33 ] Devil Chaser > scor gets me alot of $$$
[ 2004.09.19 16:38:41 ] Devil Chaser > for no work
[ 2004.09.19 16:39:03 ] Devil Chaser > thx
[ 2004.09.19 16:39:44 ] hybrid88 > think I'm goin to pod you when I get the chance
[ 2004.09.19 16:40:24 ] hybrid88 > and it will feel gooood
[ 2004.09.19 16:41:09 ] Devil Chaser > it will feel good when concord wastes your ship
[ 2004.09.19 16:42:01 ] hybrid88 > I don't care I have ships on stock
[ 2004.09.19 16:42:48 ] Devil Chaser > well im insured and cloned so it doesn't affect me
[ 2004.09.19 16:48:56 ] hybrid88 > well it's decided
[ 2004.09.19 16:52:03 ] hybrid88 > I'll pod you in a few days then.. if you show up outside station
[ 2004.09.19 16:55:37 ] Devil Chaser > k cool lookin forward to it. Bring a ship you dont mind losing
[ 2004.09.19 16:55:56 ] hybrid88 > ya =)
all ore thieves must die u brought it on yourself u deal with it dont be surprised if more corps declare on u no w that u are not under the protection of the n00b corp 
Lizaa - Dark Cartel - Director of Grief TacticsÖ
Death is coming!!!!!
Ph34r teh Retribution. |
Lizaa
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Posted - 2004.09.20 13:58:00 -
[136]
[ 2004.09.19 16:36:44 ] hybrid88 > f''k u devil
[ 2004.09.19 16:37:23 ] Devil Chaser > wow i'm loved
[ 2004.09.19 16:37:55 ] hybrid88 > lol
[ 2004.09.19 16:38:12 ] hybrid88 > well..it was just veld and scor
[ 2004.09.19 16:38:33 ] Devil Chaser > scor gets me alot of $$$
[ 2004.09.19 16:38:41 ] Devil Chaser > for no work
[ 2004.09.19 16:39:03 ] Devil Chaser > thx
[ 2004.09.19 16:39:44 ] hybrid88 > think I'm goin to pod you when I get the chance
[ 2004.09.19 16:40:24 ] hybrid88 > and it will feel gooood
[ 2004.09.19 16:41:09 ] Devil Chaser > it will feel good when concord wastes your ship
[ 2004.09.19 16:42:01 ] hybrid88 > I don't care I have ships on stock
[ 2004.09.19 16:42:48 ] Devil Chaser > well im insured and cloned so it doesn't affect me
[ 2004.09.19 16:48:56 ] hybrid88 > well it's decided
[ 2004.09.19 16:52:03 ] hybrid88 > I'll pod you in a few days then.. if you show up outside station
[ 2004.09.19 16:55:37 ] Devil Chaser > k cool lookin forward to it. Bring a ship you dont mind losing
[ 2004.09.19 16:55:56 ] hybrid88 > ya =)
all ore thieves must die u brought it on yourself u deal with it dont be surprised if more corps declare on u no w that u are not under the protection of the n00b corp
Lizaa - Dark Cartel - Director of Grief TacticsÖ
Death is coming!!!!!
Ph34r teh Retribution. |
hybrid88
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Posted - 2004.09.20 15:46:00 -
[137]
Well I'm not the one stealing ore... I'll hunt you down in a few days.
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hybrid88
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Posted - 2004.09.20 15:46:00 -
[138]
Well I'm not the one stealing ore... I'll hunt you down in a few days.
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dArkness IR
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Posted - 2004.09.20 20:47:00 -
[139]
Edited by: dArkness IR on 20/09/2004 20:49:31
LOL...anyways even when i read the first lines of his post i knew something is wrong..why would a 80 member corp waste a war slot on some n00b corp?
There is nothing wrong with eve...if u want to do pnly npc hunting and do missions there are some other mmorpgs out there just for npc and mission...EVE is more about pvp not a RPG like diablo...
although u can avoid pvp in eve if u dont interfere with other players.
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dArkness IR
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Posted - 2004.09.20 20:47:00 -
[140]
Edited by: dArkness IR on 20/09/2004 20:49:31
LOL...anyways even when i read the first lines of his post i knew something is wrong..why would a 80 member corp waste a war slot on some n00b corp?
There is nothing wrong with eve...if u want to do pnly npc hunting and do missions there are some other mmorpgs out there just for npc and mission...EVE is more about pvp not a RPG like diablo...
although u can avoid pvp in eve if u dont interfere with other players.
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Carebear Barney
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Posted - 2004.09.20 22:06:00 -
[141]
Edited by: Carebear Barney on 20/09/2004 22:08:43
Devil chaser,
You low life ore thief scum of the lower bowels of the intestinal track. DonÆt you dare take another non-secure container from us as an act of aggression and ravage to the innocent. You have gang raped the roid belts and will be taught a lesson. I will see you choke on that Trit and the Plag you stoled in empire space. IÆm calling the Coalition of Carebears together on this and you will have hundreds if not thousands of corps coming down on your neck like an seething-hot iron guillotine. This will be your "severance" pay from the region you operate in. You biomass will be sent promptly to the Sukuuvestaa Corporation for you shall know the power of the Carebears in itÆs entirety and will in no way escape.
Brother and sister Carebears in arms, I declare a Holy War against this vermin. Let us all rise the occasion to smite this Smeghead and send him back to crawl back underneath the rock from whence he came.
Let it be known throughout all Eve... that this decree has gone forth. Amen.
Who you going to call? Concord of course.
I am the ultimate Carebear in Eve.
We rule through caring and loving one another |
Carebear Barney
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Posted - 2004.09.20 22:06:00 -
[142]
Edited by: Carebear Barney on 20/09/2004 22:08:43
Devil chaser,
You low life ore thief scum of the lower bowels of the intestinal track. DonÆt you dare take another non-secure container from us as an act of aggression and ravage to the innocent. You have gang raped the roid belts and will be taught a lesson. I will see you choke on that Trit and the Plag you stoled in empire space. IÆm calling the Coalition of Carebears together on this and you will have hundreds if not thousands of corps coming down on your neck like an seething-hot iron guillotine. This will be your "severance" pay from the region you operate in. You biomass will be sent promptly to the Sukuuvestaa Corporation for you shall know the power of the Carebears in itÆs entirety and will in no way escape.
Brother and sister Carebears in arms, I declare a Holy War against this vermin. Let us all rise the occasion to smite this Smeghead and send him back to crawl back underneath the rock from whence he came.
Let it be known throughout all Eve... that this decree has gone forth. Amen.
Who you going to call? Concord of course.
I am the ultimate Carebear in Eve.
We rule through caring and loving one another |
Krysus
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Posted - 2004.09.21 21:40:00 -
[143]
Wow, carebear = idiot. Even if he did all that, which I doubt, all he has to do is drop the corp to someone else and you can't attack him in secure space.
Ye gods, if you had a brain, you'd just DO what your whining about and not follow the hollywood example and tell the enemy you are going to attack him.
I might applaud the dramatic role playing, but I'd like to sell you a bridge...
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Krysus
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Posted - 2004.09.21 21:40:00 -
[144]
Wow, carebear = idiot. Even if he did all that, which I doubt, all he has to do is drop the corp to someone else and you can't attack him in secure space.
Ye gods, if you had a brain, you'd just DO what your whining about and not follow the hollywood example and tell the enemy you are going to attack him.
I might applaud the dramatic role playing, but I'd like to sell you a bridge...
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Darkwolf
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Posted - 2004.09.21 23:24:00 -
[145]
Originally by: Krysus
I might applaud the dramatic role playing, but I'd like to sell you a bridge...
WTS: Combination humour and sarcasm detector.
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Darkwolf
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Posted - 2004.09.21 23:24:00 -
[146]
Originally by: Krysus
I might applaud the dramatic role playing, but I'd like to sell you a bridge...
WTS: Combination humour and sarcasm detector.
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.09.22 01:14:00 -
[147]
snuffymatic thread
mhh when you need protections devil
i can offer you "safe" systems to do your "mining"
Wanna fly with me?
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.09.22 01:14:00 -
[148]
snuffymatic thread
mhh when you need protections devil
i can offer you "safe" systems to do your "mining"
Wanna fly with me?
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Zeiro
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Posted - 2004.09.22 01:39:00 -
[149]
LOL
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Zeiro
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Posted - 2004.09.22 01:39:00 -
[150]
LOL
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