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Mshappypanties	Posted - 2009.06.23 15:52:00 - [1] So I just started playing ~ 3 weeks ago and I've enjoyed the game tons! I have some friends who play and they've helped me out with tips and such. I've only been doing missions and now I'm up to level 3's while I train up some skills to do them successfully... Since I havent trained drone skills at all, people were telling me that they are necessary for doing level 3s in a Drake. So I look at the market and find the book 1 system away from me. Get into my Caracal for faster movement and fly over. I jump through the gate and look to see that it is 0.4. Didnt think much as I figured that it is still safe by what I read earlier(turrets help out??). I warp to the station and proceed to dock as I notice 3 people locking on. I get in the station and buy my stuff, undock and get targetted by 4-5 people and instantly they start ripping me apart. I asked them nicely please let me leave because I've only been playing for a short time and I am no match to them in any way shape or form. They proceeded to insult me and said "girls shouldnt be playing games anyways". :( . I barely had enough shield left to dock again at the station. I buy two Warp Core Stabilizers I after training Warp Drive. I go to undock and warp out and still get scrambled and insulted by these jerks!!! I just had enough time(50% hull left) to dock again. I asked them nicely if they would please leave me alone so I could go back to doing missions peacefully and enjoy the beautiful game but they said that they "wanted me to quit the game and they will sit there all night to do that". :( Why are people such meanies in this game?? It really turned me off.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2009.06.23 15:56:00 - [2] There is a big warning whenever you manually try to use a "lowsec" (0.4 or lower) stargate that explains it all very nicely. Long story short, 0.5 and above ("highsec") is all flowers and candy... but 0.4 ("lowsec") or below, it's full of baddies that only want to kill your ship (and if you don't run fast, your pod too), loot your wreck and laugh heartily while doing it (a.k.a. "PIRATES"). EVE issues\|Mining revamp\|Build stuff\|Make ISK
Mshappypanties	Posted - 2009.06.23 16:00:00 - [3] I undersstand some people like to be pirates and fight each other...But why would they not let me leave after I asked nicely? I just wanted to go back to doing missions, I wasnt doing anything mean to them or saying anything. I just flew by to buy that Drone book... I was pretty sad, I had to log out and log back in the morning to fly out of there.
Gneeznow Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.06.23 16:01:00 - [4] I too, am a girl trying to garnish pity on a forum.
Captain Megadeath	Posted - 2009.06.23 16:03:00 - [5] 2/10
Triath Lon The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2009.06.23 16:04:00 - [6] Killing people = fun, try it sometime...
Ikserak tai	Posted - 2009.06.23 16:04:00 - [7] Most of us have had similar experiences early on in Eve. Most of us have lost a number of ships to a**holes, so you at least got out with your ship. Chalk this up to learning.
Durzel The Xenodus Initiative.	Posted - 2009.06.23 16:05:00 - [8] A masterful troll, though the "I wasn't doing anything mean to them" was a touch overkill for my tastes.
Delencia Lakat	Posted - 2009.06.23 16:05:00 - [9] People are mean in this game because they're so angry that there's nothing to do. It's been so long since their last good 1v1 that they form groups and just harass individual people because at the very least, they get to use the guns that they pay $15/month to stare at.
Illwill Bill Svea Rike	Posted - 2009.06.23 16:07:00 - [10] Edited by: Illwill Bill on 23/06/2009 16:08:29 Originally by: Mshappypanties But why would they not let me leave after I asked nicely? Welcome to EVE, don't let the meanies scare you away! Asking nicely doesn't really make any difference; they wanted something, and apparently your death was a way to obtain that something. Unconsensual PvP is the core of EVE, and if you intend to venture into low and null sec you need to be prepared for it.
TR4D3R4LT	Posted - 2009.06.23 16:09:00 - [11] As weird as it might sound but people have different tastes. Just like your experience has "turned you off" the three guys are "turned on" by gang-ganking you and attempting to forcefully insert various shaped charges to your ship until they reach your tiny precious pod resting inside. Some like mother and some daughter etc etc etc. Just close client for today and check again tomorrow, at the same time remembering that in some bad neighborhoods with wrong kind of people on lookout girls can face situation described earlier, nothing new here, all part to give you as realistic experience as possible.
Mshappypanties	Posted - 2009.06.23 16:09:00 - [12] Originally by: Triath Lon Killing people = fun, try it sometime... I am too new to attack other players, I've only been playing for 3 weeks. My friend tells me that the pirates go to the zero security space, I didnt think in 0.4 they would attack me at a station. The ISD in Rookie Help said taht there are turrets near the station that protect you.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2009.06.23 16:19:00 - [13] Originally by: Mshappypanties turrets near the station that protect you. They offer some degree of assistance, but not complete protection - an opposing force prepared for them can easily withstand their fire and eventually kill you. EVE issues\|Mining revamp\|Build stuff\|Make ISK
Cypherous Minmatar Liberty Rogues Rally Against Evil	Posted - 2009.06.23 16:19:00 - [14] Originally by: Mshappypanties Originally by: Triath Lon Killing people = fun, try it sometime... I am too new to attack other players, I've only been playing for 3 weeks. My friend tells me that the pirates go to the zero security space, I didnt think in 0.4 they would attack me at a station. The ISD in Rookie Help said taht there are turrets near the station that protect you. there are but they do laughable damage they may aswell not be there, its a cold harsh game get used to it :)
Mshappypanties	Posted - 2009.06.23 16:21:00 - [15] Okay so going to stations is now out of the question in 0.4. Is it still safe to do missions in these areas??
Bestofworst Gallente	Posted - 2009.06.23 16:25:00 - [16] Originally by: Akita T There is a big warning whenever you manually try to use a "lowsec" (0.4 or lower) stargate that explains it all very nicely. Long story short, 0.5 and above ("highsec") is all flowers and candy... but 0.4 ("lowsec") or below, it's full of baddies that only want to kill your ship (and if you don't run fast, your pod too), loot your wreck and laugh heartily while doing it (a.k.a. "PIRATES"). My first pirate experience included destroying a ratting catalyst and locking the pod who's pilot explained how he was only a day old (was true too). "Welcome to eve" was the last thing he heard from me and my fellow pirates. *Note: Every time I listen to Zero punctuation and type something out or read something, I always read it like he speaks, man this gets annoying. ---- My Music
Quantar Raalsken Gallente	Posted - 2009.06.23 16:31:00 - [17] Edited by: Quantar Raalsken on 23/06/2009 16:34:00 Originally by: Mshappypanties Okay so going to stations is now out of the question in 0.4. Is it still safe to do missions in these areas?? NO They will scan u down and when they find u there wont even be sentry guns to help EDIT: dont worry im for the most part one of the few nice ppl in EVE ^^ ======= Homeworld Hamachi Network
Pesky LaRue Minmatar	Posted - 2009.06.23 16:31:00 - [18] Originally by: Mshappypanties Okay so going to stations is now out of the question in 0.4. Is it still safe to do missions in these areas?? No, nothing in 0.4 or lower, or 0.0 is "safe". whilst I think what happened to you was pretty juvenile and lame, if that sort of behaviour is going to turn you off, then stay away from any low- or null-sec regions. Empire space is relatively safe but even then you have to watch out - you should read up on the rules of engagement so that you don't fall prey to can-flipping or similar cheap tricks. stick with it. there are more good people in EvE than toolbox's, it's just sometimes easy to forget that. \|+ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ +\|
Cypherous Minmatar Liberty Rogues Rally Against Evil	Posted - 2009.06.23 16:37:00 - [19] Originally by: Pesky LaRue Originally by: Mshappypanties Okay so going to stations is now out of the question in 0.4. Is it still safe to do missions in these areas?? No, nothing in 1.0 or lower, or 0.0 is "safe". Corrected for you :)
Tippia Raddick Explorations Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2009.06.23 16:41:00 - [20] Originally by: Mshappypanties I am too new to attack other players, I've only been playing for 3 weeks. No. You're ready. You will just have a hard time winning on your own without a fair bit of luck on where, when and whom you choose to attack. In fact, right now is a good time to start — get used to shooting stuff; get used to being shot at; get used to losing ships and clones and start learning how to keep those two from being the same thing as "losing everything you have." The earlier the better, and the fact that you already survived twice is promising… Quote: Okay so going to stations is now out of the question in 0.4. Is it still safe to do missions in these areas?? Unless you take some pretty major precautions that will eat into your missioning time (and thus your profits), no. Not really. In fact, strike "safe" from your vocabulary every time you launch EVE — it doesn't exist here, not even in high-sec. Get into that mindset and you will have a much easier time to adapt to the EVE environment.
Ranger 1 Amarr Dynaverse Corporation Vertigo Coalition	Posted - 2009.06.23 16:44:00 - [21] Am I the only one here amused by the fact that people seem to think that... A) This is anything other than a Troll post, and B) That Mshappypanties is actually female.
Cypherous Minmatar Liberty Rogues Rally Against Evil	Posted - 2009.06.23 16:46:00 - [22] Originally by: Ranger 1 Am I the only one here amused by the fact that people seem to think that... A) This is anything other than a Troll post, and B) That Mshappypanties is actually female. She's not female? And to think i sent her pics >.>
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2009.06.23 16:58:00 - [23] Originally by: Ranger 1 Am I the only one here amused by the fact that people seem to think that... A) This is anything other than a Troll post, and B) That Mshappypanties is actually female. A) even if it's a troll post, some non-trolls might read the replies B) does it really matter what gender the player is ?
Pesky LaRue Minmatar	Posted - 2009.06.23 17:02:00 - [24] Originally by: Ranger 1 Am I the only one here amused by the fact that people seem to think that... A) This is anything other than a Troll post, and B) That Mshappypanties is actually female. a) Thought the same thing (this is all too reminiscent of Cat O'brainless) but on the off-chance it wasn't, I replied. b) who cares? a player is a player is a player. unless they're a troll.
MukkBarovian	Posted - 2009.06.23 17:04:00 - [25] Well ranger1 I thought it was a troll too. And to call herself that mshappypanties iether is very comfortable in her sexuality or is a man's fantasy alt. On the offchance that she is not a troll: Convo me ingame and I'll tell you how to avoid or suceed in pvp on ventrillo. If she/he is a troll: Good job. Talking about the noobie pvp experience is one of the few topics that will create intelligent constructive posts instead of a flame war.
Mshappypanties	Posted - 2009.06.23 17:20:00 - [26] Originally by: Tippia Originally by: Mshappypanties I am too new to attack other players, I've only been playing for 3 weeks. No. You're ready. You will just have a hard time winning on your own without a fair bit of luck on where, when and whom you choose to attack. In fact, right now is a good time to start ù get used to shooting stuff; get used to being shot at; get used to losing ships and clones and start learning how to keep those two from being the same thing as "losing everything you have." The earlier the better, and the fact that you already survived twice is promisingà Quote: Okay so going to stations is now out of the question in 0.4. Is it still safe to do missions in these areas?? Unless you take some pretty major precautions that will eat into your missioning time (and thus your profits), no. Not really. In fact, strike "safe" from your vocabulary every time you launch EVE ù it doesn't exist here, not even in high-sec. Get into that mindset and you will have a much easier time to adapt to the EVE environment. I just dont feel comfortable in fighting other people. I've never been good at in other games I played and typically try to stay away from it. I kind of wish that Eve had a server where there was no player versus player. I can understand other people wanting to do this though but I thought it was really rude and mean when they told me to "quit" just because I was asking them nicely to leave me be. I have found the Rookie Hellp channel to be very helpful and most people there will explain things and sometimes come out to help on a mission that I am having a hard time with. I just dont know, maybe I dont understand the game at all.
Sniper Wolf18 Gallente A Pretty Pony Princess General Tso's Alliance	Posted - 2009.06.23 17:20:00 - [27] Get Out! And to finish, thank you for reading my sig -------------------------------------------------- If you are still reading i would probably hav posted by now
Lysianna Celestial Janissaries Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2009.06.23 17:30:00 - [28] Edited by: Lysianna on 23/06/2009 17:30:10 Alright, hereÆs a quick ôguideö for you. If youÆre not ready to die by players: -DonÆt go in systems lower then 0.5. -DonÆt take missions that sends you in 0.4 and lower. -DonÆt try to engage a conversation with a pirate. They will only smack talk back. -If youÆre in a station in low/null sec, then make sure youÆre undocking safely. Remember you can always redock without getting hit if you donÆt start moving your shipà just let it drift through space and take a peak at your surroundings and overview then redock. -DonÆt be paranoid, if a player has -4 security standings. It doesnÆt mean heÆs actually a pirate. -If you do need to go in low sec, bring something that you can afford to lose. DonÆt go there in your shiny new faction fitted BS. -Fast and small enhances your chance of survival. -Find alternate routes instead of going in low sec. -Post that in the EVE New Citizens Q&A instead of here, you get as many silly replies. -New or Not, this is EVE. This is not joy land where everything is dandy. Harsh realities are up ahead and you havenÆt seen the last of it. Get used to this life style as it will only get crazier as you progress. -Join a corp and learn to properly survive in space. welcome to EVE and good luck :)
Adeline Grey	Posted - 2009.06.23 17:37:00 - [29] Lame troll.
Krystal Vernet Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2009.06.23 17:42:00 - [30] When you're picking up anything smaller than 10m3, like a skillbook, might as well just go in a shuttle. It aligns and gets to warp quickly. When you get a skillbook in an unsafe place, just rightclick the book and inject it. It won't interrupt whatever you're currently training and puts the skill in your character sheet for later training when you're ready for it.
Ruzel	Posted - 2009.06.23 17:42:00 - [31] Edited by: Ruzel on 23/06/2009 17:43:10 They aren't really pirates as much as they are 14 year old bullies. They play simply to annoy other players. EDIT: strange forum bug
Biolaja Tista Gallente Band of Brothers	Posted - 2009.06.23 17:44:00 - [32] Go to Pulin, enter the station (there's only one) located there, selected the "offices" tab from the interface screen at the right, scroll down until you see "Band of Brothers," and select the button to apply for the corp. Now, when people attack you, they also earn the ire of your corp.
Butzewutze	Posted - 2009.06.23 18:11:00 - [33] Originally by: Biolaja Tista Go to Pulin, enter the station (there's only one) located there, selected the "offices" tab from the interface screen at the right, scroll down until you see "Band of Brothers," and select the button to apply for the corp. Now, when people attack you, they also earn the ire of your corp. Band of... what?
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2009.06.23 19:56:00 - [34] Originally by: Mshappypanties I undersstand some people like to be pirates and fight each other...But why would they not let me leave after I asked nicely? I dont think you get evil.
Kahega Amielden Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2009.06.23 19:59:00 - [35] Edited by: Kahega Amielden on 23/06/2009 20:00:42 remember kids, if you defend the internet female, she'll have sex with you! Really! OP: This is EVE. EVE is competitive. Fights in EVE aren't fair, nor are they supposed to be. This is a game, with winners and losers. When you got popped because you weren't prepared, you lost.
Dirk Magnum Royal Hiigaran Navy SCUM.	Posted - 2009.06.23 20:34:00 - [36] eGirl alert
Noix Arikani	Posted - 2009.06.23 20:39:00 - [37] THAR IZ NO GIRLZ ON TEH INTERTUBES !
Rilwar BlackStar Industrial	Posted - 2009.06.23 20:39:00 - [38] 1/10 Mitnal was here.
Bo Bojangles Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2009.06.23 21:29:00 - [39] she's right! what have we become?! Oh the humanity!!
Laechyd Eldgorn Caldari Endemic Aggression Exalted.	Posted - 2009.06.23 21:33:00 - [40] People are always shotting at me while I've done nothing much than poasted on forums. Why they cannot stop succesfully.
Tippia Raddick Explorations Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2009.06.23 21:33:00 - [41] Originally by: Bo Bojangles she's right! what have we become?! Oh the humanity!! Obligatory Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Lilla Kharn Amarr	Posted - 2009.06.23 21:35:00 - [42] OP is really FBI. Posting to confirm.
Brazero Amarr Noble House	Posted - 2009.06.23 22:04:00 - [43] What I really wanna know is how the hell he/she managed to dock again, and not only once but twice. With these 3 heroes doing their hero stuff. In a noob Caracal of all things That aside, you all really rocks when it comes to lame comments. You really do. Originally by: Rodj Blake CCP are planning to give Amarrians some "oomph" Unfortunately, "oomph" is the sound one makes when kicked repeatedly in the ribs.
Banana Torres The Green Banana Corporation	Posted - 2009.06.23 22:33:00 - [44] Originally by: Sniper Wolf18 Get Out! Do you really think that an avatar with the name Ms. Happy Panties has a female sitting at the keyboard?
Iria Ahrens Amarr 101st Space Marine Force Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2009.06.23 22:36:00 - [45] First of all, good job on getting docked back up safely. You didn't panic and were able to take the correct action to survive. Good job. Second of all, in the future it is better to ask stuff like this in new player forum. General discussion will invite all sorts of derogatory responses. But it's time to shatter your misunderstanding about the world of Eve. Nowhere undocked is safe. If you carry something with enough value, then people will suicide you even in high-sec. The world of Eve is supposed to be harsh and unforgiving, lawless in the sense that the police will only respond to what they see, and they could care less otherwise. It's ok to infiltrate other people's corporations and steal assets. No GM will come down on someone for doing so. Remember lawless. I divide up sec status in 3 zones. Concord law, lawless, and Player law. High sec is Concord. Concord doesn't stop lawless acts from happening, they simply punish the doers. If the end is worth the punishment, then the players will still break the law. Low sec is lawless space. Concord doesn't make much of a difference and player alliances are focused elsewhere. Everyone is a target. If people could **** you and then chop you up and sell your body parts for profit, they would. Asking nicely won't help you, if anything, asking nicely makes you a more juicy target. Null sec is Player law. Safer than low sec if you're among friends. If only because you don't have to worry about your allies attacking you, and because a pirate presence will draw a quick response that should drive them away quickly. The rest is smack talk. Eve isn't just about the electrons but what's going on in your head. They aren't trying to just defeat you in game, but out of game as well.
Bellum Eternus Gallente Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS	Posted - 2009.06.23 23:10:00 - [46] Originally by: Gneeznow I too, am a girl trying to garnish pity on a forum. +1 Bellum Eternus Inveniam viam aut faciam. Death of Virtue is Recruiting
Manterror	Posted - 2009.06.23 23:44:00 - [47] Stay in 0.5 systems and above. You sound like a future care-bear enthusiast, learn to love highsec space :)
Galan Amarias Amarr The Drekla Consortium	Posted - 2009.06.24 02:52:00 - [48] Originally by: Banana Torres Originally by: Sniper Wolf18 Get Out! Do you really think that an avatar with the name Ms. Happy Panties has a female sitting at the keyboard? I think that was just an excuse to post the linked hilarity, sadly from the number of people helping we seem to have some folks who think, Ms. Happypants just might actually be a girl and may have the aforementioned "happypants". This makes me sad. (But glad to be married) 4-10 on trolling, too successful for anything less. -Galan
Sanitarium Slave Minmatar Guiding Hand Social Club	Posted - 2009.06.24 02:54:00 - [49] Originally by: Gneeznow I too, am a girl trying to garnish pity on a forum.
NeoNeTiC LOCKDOWN. Cult of War	Posted - 2009.06.24 03:07:00 - [50] Why all the troll-hate? Can't we just get along and stay in character for even greater lulz? ;_;
SpaceSquirrels Caldari	Posted - 2009.06.24 03:32:00 - [51] I thought it was illegal in most places for the female gender to play eve? Oh clever you you just got like have the population of single guys in eve's hopes up.
Merin Ryskin Peregrine Industries	Posted - 2009.06.24 03:38:00 - [52] I can't believe it, it's the second page already and nobody has asked the "girl" for pics?
Mire Stoude Cash Money Brothers	Posted - 2009.06.24 05:13:00 - [53] I too, would like the readers isk donated to me.
Iria Ahrens Amarr 101st Space Marine Force Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2009.06.24 05:13:00 - [54] Originally by: Galan Amarias Originally by: Banana Torres Originally by: Sniper Wolf18 Get Out! Do you really think that an avatar with the name Ms. Happy Panties has a female sitting at the keyboard? I think that was just an excuse to post the linked hilarity, sadly from the number of people helping we seem to have some folks who think, Ms. Happypants just might actually be a girl and may have the aforementioned "happypants". Or maybe there are people that don't care? Really, who cares what name the player goes by or the player's sex. The attitude is common and other newbies will read and share it, so even if you think the poster doesn't mean it, write for the other newbies reading.
Mshappypanties	Posted - 2009.06.24 20:08:00 - [55] Thank you all for the advice that was sent to me in the game. I dont know why some of you are questioning my name, it was a nickname I was given in a highschool dance class. I am going to stay out of 0.4 from now on, even with the missions.
Agent Known Apotheosis of Virtue	Posted - 2009.06.24 20:15:00 - [56] Originally by: Mshappypanties Thank you all for the advice that was sent to me in the game. I dont know why some of you are questioning my name, it was a nickname I was given in a highschool dance class. I am going to stay out of 0.4 from now on, even with the missions.
Dario Wall Caldari Corvus Industries	Posted - 2009.06.24 20:36:00 - [57] Originally by: Mshappypanties it was a nickname I was given in a highschool dance class What exactly could someone have done to earn a nickname like that I wonder...
Krystal Vernet Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2009.06.24 21:01:00 - [58] Originally by: Dario Wall Originally by: Mshappypanties it was a nickname I was given in a highschool dance class What exactly could someone have done to earn a nickname like that I wonder... Maybe not wearing panties to dance class.
Dario Wall Caldari Corvus Industries	Posted - 2009.06.24 21:06:00 - [59] Originally by: Krystal Vernet Originally by: Dario Wall Originally by: Mshappypanties it was a nickname I was given in a highschool dance class What exactly could someone have done to earn a nickname like that I wonder... Maybe not wearing panties to dance class. That, or having a habit of taking them off during the class. What kind of dancing was it exactly?
Quantar Raalsken Gallente	Posted - 2009.06.24 21:23:00 - [60] Posting to confirm that i already know at least 2 girls from the interwebs One lives in England and is married (or just has a boyfriend not sure how official the connection is) and the other is either in LA or wants to go there not sure point being.....girls + interwebs = not that big a deal in fact when my sister's computer was running she played halo too
Commander BlackJack The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2009.06.24 21:27:00 - [61] Edited by: Commander BlackJack on 24/06/2009 21:26:59 http://pix.motivatedphotos.com/2009/2/18/633705405010797760-girlsoftheinternet.jpg
Dirk Magnum Royal Hiigaran Navy SCUM.	Posted - 2009.06.24 21:29:00 - [62] So we can't post KMs in C&P anymore but threads like this survive for days. Can't blame this on Falcon either.
CaptainAttitude GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.06.24 21:34:00 - [63] Originally by: Gneeznow I too, am a girl trying to garnish pity on a forum. Me, too. ------------------------------------------------ http://sesfanqulahmemorial.com/
Sakura Nihil Selective Pressure	Posted - 2009.06.24 21:43:00 - [64] I smell troll, but I'll bite. 1) Toughen up and grow a thicker skin, if you're the type to be easily offended, get out while you still can. The girls I've come to know in this game all have adapted to their minority status and become tough badasses on the outside, quite capable of snapping off waggling E-peens from passing prepubescent boys. Learn their ways. 2) This is not a player-vs-computer game, this is a player-vs-player game. You play others in the market, in manufacturing profits, in owning space, and most importantly in earning each others' corpses - anybody who thinks otherwise, that we all want to get along nicely and play together for fun, should be shot. 3) Don't go into lowsec if you aren't prepared for it. The moment you click the undock button, you consent to having your boat violenced in whatever way possible, and doubly-so when you consent to jumping into lowsec/nullsec.
Selma Body Amarr Ad Astra Vexillum Sc0rched Earth	Posted - 2009.06.24 22:18:00 - [65] Worth a chuckle ...
Draeklore	Posted - 2009.06.25 22:02:00 - [66] I like how you told them you were a girl in order to keep them from killing you. Anyways if this happens just log off for a bit and come back later. They won't stay there forever.
Veron Kirtor	Posted - 2009.06.25 22:14:00 - [67] If you get trapped inside of a station that gets camped 24/7, log in instantly after downtime and gtfo of there.

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