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Munchees	Posted - 2009.06.24 12:13:00 - [31] Second Life is more like cyber sex paradise. I'd rather take the easy road to getting sexual pleasure and watch ****, or get some girl really drunk and then feel guilty about it later when I'm sober. The hard road of actually working on a girl until she's ready for sexytime has much more satisfaction though.
Nova Satar DEATHFUNK Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2009.06.24 12:15:00 - [32] Originally by: Caelum Dominus Originally by: Mr Reeth My gaming experiences: EQ: grind grind grind... quit Anarchy Online: No... to painful to relive. Horizons: "Hello? Is there anybody in here?" tumbleweed slowly drifts by City of Heroes: Wow! I'm a super champion and I made it to the max level and beat all my super foes! What do I do now? quits WoW Free Trial: see EQ Second Life: While still trying to figure out the controls a fat chick kept calling me hot and begging for cyber sex. This lasted an hour. quit EVE ONLINE!!: Like walking into a pitch black room and getting kicked hard in the balls by somebody who feels neither guilt nor joy at having done so. chuckles rofl, grats on lasting a whole hour of cyber sex with a fat chick on second life though, better than most
Doctor Penguin Amarr Heavy Influence Aggression.	Posted - 2009.06.24 13:14:00 - [33] Originally by: Bestofworst It has always been about the FOTM Class / Spec / Setup / Team. The critical flaw of WoW - it's PVP is essencially Yu-Gi-Oh! Online - EVE is M:TG. I don't classify a "PVP" system that is risk-free and requires endless running of raids for the top-tiered loot/RWT as actually being PVP - I classify it as pressing buttons on your computer and because of some mathematical difference between you and him you're always bound to win. EVE, on the otherhand, is real PVP as it has scale, risk and the social factor. ________________________________________________ Originally by: CCP Soundwave Get out Mindstar, or I'll punch you in the ovaries.
ceaon Gallente	Posted - 2009.06.24 13:22:00 - [34] Originally by: Caelum Dominus Originally by: Midge Mo'yb Originally by: Caelum Dominus I'd like to see this documentary. Can it be downloaded somewhere or watched online? http://www.channel4.com/programmes/another-perfect-world/4od#2924948 "Not available in your region"... great. -.- i bet is only for uk ... damn ***s ....
Nigel Sheldon Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2009.06.24 16:28:00 - [35] Originally by: ceaon Originally by: Caelum Dominus Originally by: Midge Mo'yb Originally by: Caelum Dominus I'd like to see this documentary. Can it be downloaded somewhere or watched online? http://www.channel4.com/programmes/another-perfect-world/4od#2924948 "Not available in your region"... great. -.- i bet is only for uk ... damn ***s ....
Hardin Amarr Kasei Technologies Shalbatana Systems	Posted - 2009.06.24 18:28:00 - [36] Edited by: Hardin on 24/06/2009 18:28:24 Okay here for the interest of all non-UK EVE players who can't view the documentary on the More 4 site please find a true pirate style YouTube version of the EVE section: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gwx4XWJvm4c ----- Alliance Creation/Corp Expansion Services http://internetspacewars.blogspot.com/
Krystal Vernet Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2009.06.24 18:29:00 - [37] Quote: Can I watch 4oD in another country? Rights agreements mean that our 4oD service is only available in the UK. Even if you are a citizen of the UK you cannot access the service from abroad. From their help section.
BRAZEN FURY Fairlight Corp Rooks and Kings	Posted - 2009.06.24 18:39:00 - [38] Originally by: Hardin Edited by: Hardin on 24/06/2009 18:28:24 Okay here for the interest of all non-UK EVE players who can't view the documentary on the More 4 site please find a true pirate style YouTube version of the EVE section: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gwx4XWJvm4c Awesome. Thanks.
Lui Kai Better Than You	Posted - 2009.06.24 19:15:00 - [39] Was I the only person a little creeped out by the "Let's interview people while they bathe in a volcanic pool" section?
jason hill Caldari Clan Shadow Wolf Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2009.06.24 20:27:00 - [40] Edited by: jason hill on 24/06/2009 20:27:21 hiya hardin did you get a fee from C4 for the interview ...and if so ...wheres my cut !

Cpt Placeholder	Posted - 2009.06.24 20:55:00 - [41] Originally by: Midge Mo'yb Yeah its so advanced everyone uses UI mods to play the game for them... very hard... I'm afraid you have no idea what you're talking about. The internal scripting system has been butchered so far down that you can't do much more than display information in a very static manner. At least it was in that state the last time I played the game, which has been a while, but I doubt Blizzard will lift any of the imposed restrictions.
Mshappypanties	Posted - 2009.06.24 21:05:00 - [42] WOW pvp is all about what class you play and what class you group with. Much less skill than some of you guys give it. I used to play my Rogue with a Druid friend and even though we had better gear and we knew how to play our classes really well, we had no chance versus the obviously skillfull Paladins/Death Knights/Resto Druids. It's always skill that killed my rogue after I would get the opener, do all the necessary attacks in perfect sequence for maximum effect, just to have the other person turn on complete invulnerability bubble and spam 2-3 buttons to kill me. Sorry, WoW takes no skill.
Mshappypanties	Posted - 2009.06.24 21:09:00 - [43] Originally by: Cpt Placeholder Originally by: Midge Mo'yb Yeah its so advanced everyone uses UI mods to play the game for them... very hard... I'm afraid you have no idea what you're talking about. The internal scripting system has been butchered so far down that you can't do much more than display information in a very static manner. At least it was in that state the last time I played the game, which has been a while, but I doubt Blizzard will lift any of the imposed restrictions. Typical wow macro line 1 - Activate DPS trinket #1 line 2 - Activate DPS trinket #2 line 3 - Activate Spell that makes the next spell with casting time of 10s or less instant cast line 4 - Activate 10s high damage spell hit that button once the timers are up and you have one dead person. Lots of skill....
Caelum Dominus Invicta.	Posted - 2009.06.24 22:12:00 - [44] Originally by: Mshappypanties Typical wow macro line 1 - Activate DPS trinket #1 line 2 - Activate DPS trinket #2 line 3 - Activate Spell that makes the next spell with casting time of 10s or less instant cast line 4 - Activate 10s high damage spell hit that button once the timers are up and you have one dead person. Lots of skill.... obvious troll is obvious.
Istvaan Shogaatsu Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club	Posted - 2009.06.24 22:25:00 - [45] Edited by: Istvaan Shogaatsu on 24/06/2009 22:25:28 Originally by: Mshappypanties Typical wow macro line 1 - Activate DPS trinket #1 line 2 - Activate DPS trinket #2 line 3 - Activate Spell that makes the next spell with casting time of 10s or less instant cast line 4 - Activate 10s high damage spell hit that button once the timers are up and you have one dead person. Lots of skill.... Hah, that's a basic one. My warlock had a macro that would trigger my damage buffs, and apply 5 damage-over-time spells just by mashing one button. Also had my Felhunter set up to automatically remove negative debuffs, and my Succubus to automatically seduce. Now that's easy mode...
Caelum Dominus Invicta.	Posted - 2009.06.24 22:30:00 - [46] Edited by: Caelum Dominus on 24/06/2009 22:31:11 Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu Hah, that's a basic one. My warlock had a macro that would trigger my damage buffs, and apply 5 damage-over-time spells just by mashing one button. Also had my Felhunter set up to automatically remove negative debuffs, and my Succubus to automatically seduce. Now that's easy mode... Of course, that wouldn't really get you anywhere if you're competing with the best. This is my point. At the casual level, the PvP "skill cap" is about the same in WOW as EVE. It's on the top of the ladders that the PvP mechanics of WOW really shines, and I can't say the same about EVE.
ceaon Gallente	Posted - 2009.06.24 22:45:00 - [47] quick fact wow dont have pvp is FvF(Faction vs Faction)
Caelum Dominus Invicta.	Posted - 2009.06.24 22:59:00 - [48] Originally by: ceaon quick fact wow dont have pvp is FvF(Faction vs Faction) argh, so many clueless people in this thread! EVE Arena
ceaon Gallente	Posted - 2009.06.24 23:04:00 - [49] Originally by: Caelum Dominus Originally by: ceaon quick fact wow dont have pvp is FvF(Faction vs Faction) argh, so many clueless people in this thread! afaik in wow u cant kill any player just some players so that is not pvp for me :P
Caelum Dominus Invicta.	Posted - 2009.06.24 23:06:00 - [50] Originally by: ceaon Originally by: Caelum Dominus Originally by: ceaon quick fact wow dont have pvp is FvF(Faction vs Faction) argh, so many clueless people in this thread! afaik in wow u cant kill any player just some players so that is not pvp for me :P well, your knowledge is limited. :p enter the arena; http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/pvp/arena/index.xml In a nutshell, that's why PvP gameplay is more sophisticated in WOW than in EVE. EVE Arena

ceaon Gallente	Posted - 2009.06.24 23:11:00 - [51] Edited by: ceaon on 24/06/2009 23:11:25 Originally by: Caelum Dominus Arena, meet caeon. Caeon, meet arena is same crap because is limited to a location is more like a boxing ring that fights are not natural there is no surprise element now i notice your sig wtf u want wow in space
Caelum Dominus Invicta.	Posted - 2009.06.24 23:12:00 - [52] Originally by: ceaon Edited by: ceaon on 24/06/2009 23:11:25 Originally by: Caelum Dominus Arena, meet caeon. Caeon, meet arena is same crap because is limited to a location is more like a boxing ring that fights are not natural there is no surprise element now i notice your sig wtf u want wow in space You make no sense...
Bestofworst Gallente	Posted - 2009.06.24 23:40:00 - [53] Originally by: ceaon Originally by: Caelum Dominus Originally by: ceaon quick fact wow dont have pvp is FvF(Faction vs Faction) argh, so many clueless people in this thread! afaik in wow u cant kill any player just some players so that is not pvp for me :P I'll clear this up, it's weird / stupid that people are safe from SOMETHING. I can't attack my own faction unless in arena or a pre-designated area that is very small and always empty.
dr doooo	Posted - 2009.06.25 00:34:00 - [54] Originally by: Caelum Dominus Edited by: Caelum Dominus on 24/06/2009 22:31:11 Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu Hah, that's a basic one. My warlock had a macro that would trigger my damage buffs, and apply 5 damage-over-time spells just by mashing one button. Also had my Felhunter set up to automatically remove negative debuffs, and my Succubus to automatically seduce. Now that's easy mode... Of course, that wouldn't really get you anywhere if you're competing with the best. This is my point. At the casual level, the PvP "skill cap" is about the same in WOW as EVE. It's on the top of the ladders that the PvP mechanics of WOW really shines, and I can't say the same about EVE. I've never played wow, but I'm curious. In what way do you mean that wouldn't work against the best? Do you mean that in elite wow pvp you would be beaten by a team of players with all the best stuff, best mix of characters and best tactics, or do you mean that assuming everyone is 'maxed out' on stuff, characters etc, and it's a like for like match, the elite pvper would be able to beat this sort of macro?
dr doooo	Posted - 2009.06.25 00:35:00 - [55] Originally by: Munchees Second Life is more like cyber sex paradise. I'd rather take the easy road to getting sexual pleasure and watch ****, or get some girl really drunk and then feel guilty about it later when I'm sober. The hard road of actually working on a girl until she's ready for sexytime has much more satisfaction though. and you need to get laid Sir!
Munchees	Posted - 2009.06.25 01:09:00 - [56] Iceland is the worlds oldest democracy? I thought it was Ancient Greece...
Caelum Dominus Invicta.	Posted - 2009.06.25 06:56:00 - [57] Originally by: dr doooo I've never played wow, but I'm curious. In what way do you mean that wouldn't work against the best? Do you mean that in elite wow pvp you would be beaten by a team of players with all the best stuff, best mix of characters and best tactics, or do you mean that assuming everyone is 'maxed out' on stuff, characters etc, and it's a like for like match, the elite pvper would be able to beat this sort of macro? I'm not sure I understand. I'm trying to convey that spamming macros will not cut it when you're playing with the best in World of Warcraft, but let's not derail the topic more than necessary.
Dray Caldari Culture Breach	Posted - 2009.06.25 16:45:00 - [58] WoW doesn't have pvp, people just think it does. Without a tangible loss its irrelevant. In Eve every loss costs you, it would be interesting to see what would happen if you lost equipment or xp's and levels in WoW though.
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Hoodlums Associates	Posted - 2009.06.25 17:00:00 - [59] Originally by: Caelum Dominus Edited by: Caelum Dominus on 24/06/2009 22:31:11 Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu Hah, that's a basic one. My warlock had a macro that would trigger my damage buffs, and apply 5 damage-over-time spells just by mashing one button. Also had my Felhunter set up to automatically remove negative debuffs, and my Succubus to automatically seduce. Now that's easy mode... Of course, that wouldn't really get you anywhere if you're competing with the best. This is my point. At the casual level, the PvP "skill cap" is about the same in WOW as EVE. It's on the top of the ladders that the PvP mechanics of WOW really shines, and I can't say the same about EVE. I can. PVP in eve is more complex on every level than what wow has.
Caelum Dominus Invicta.	Posted - 2009.06.25 17:24:00 - [60] Edited by: Caelum Dominus on 25/06/2009 17:24:46 Originally by: baltec1 I can. PVP in eve is more complex on every level than what wow has. U MAD A FUNNEH



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