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Nova Satar
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Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.24 09:48:00 -
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Edited by: Nova Satar on 24/06/2009 09:49:56
I don't know whether anybody made this thread already , but i watched that program which was all about MMO's and how they are generally getting bigger and bigger and taking over the world lol.
There was a decent size chunk about EVE but sadly it was all about the CSM which i feel is the worst thing in EVE... but anyway
It really makes you realise, how lucky EVE players are... it cycled through some various MMOs and they all looks so ****, for starters the graphics are just in a different league! Most are nice cutscenes followed by what can only be described as Nintendo 64 graphics. The EVE trailers are stunning in comparrison, but the best thing is, thats basically the INGAME graphics.
I only wish they touched on the more the whole structure and economy of EVE, but it mainly just talked about Second Life for that, (which by the way, looks ******ed)
Oh, also... what the hell is up with Chinnese and Korean people, they are nuts.
Korea apparantly have an official CYBER TERROR RESPONSE UNIT (no jokes, that is the actual name, they are like a police division), where basically if you pulled off a scam in-game, these people would find you, and effectively take you to court. It's mental.
Anyway, anybody else watch it?
I had sexytimes watching Hilmars NAKED and very wet interview. 
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Posted - 2009.06.24 09:54:00 -
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Oh dear sweet JESUS what the **** IS IT WITH THE MEDIA AND SECOND ****ING LIFE?
For some reason TV and Cinema is always stuck about 10 years behind when it comes to accurate depictions of gaming. Even in the late nineties, whenever a surly teenager was playing computer games it was invariably a pacman or space invaders era BLEEP BLOOP job.
They will still be talking about how futuristic and groundbreaking Second life is when we can all fly Buicks to the moon. |
Nova Satar
DEATHFUNK
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.24 09:58:00 -
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Yeah there was this guy on there that makes his living from Second Life, like a virtual store. He truly thought that he was god, he thought he was the coolest cat on the block. It was HILARIOUS lol, in reality....? Sad ****er.
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Caelum Dominus
Invicta.
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Posted - 2009.06.24 10:00:00 -
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I'd like to see this documentary. Can it be downloaded somewhere or watched online? |
Reven Cordelle
Caldari
Yamainu-Mirai Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2009.06.24 10:02:00 -
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I would have watched it today but for some reason certain types of FLV just lock my browsers up on this PC. I think its McAfee...(****ty work PC)
Korea is a gaming mecca, they take games very seriously - hence why they have such units. People have been killed over purples in that country.
As for Second Life, it is awful - I tried playing it once, I dithered around a bit and some dude abused me for being on his private island - then I got mobbed by Furries.
It was an incredibly traumatic experience and I do not plan on playing it again. Second Life is a horrible example of what people will do if unhindered by society, morals or money.
Oh, and the graphics and animation are absolutely abysmal, everyone walks around like they've just had a concrete enema.
I can guarantee however, that when/if WiS is released, it will see vast media coverage. That is when EVE will change forever. |
Tippia
Raddick Explorations
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.06.24 10:07:00 -
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 Originally by: BIZZAROSTORMY
Oh dear sweet JESUS what the **** IS IT WITH THE MEDIA AND SECOND ****ING LIFE?
For some reason TV and Cinema is always stuck about 10 years behind when it comes to accurate depictions of gaming. Even in the late nineties, whenever a surly teenager was playing computer games it was invariably a pacman or space invaders era BLEEP BLOOP job.
Oh I don't know… In Grosse Pointe Blank (1997), they showed some Doom II (1994) gamplay — that's only three years behind. Granted, they mixed together scenes from very very different maps, and completely out of order, but you can't have it all I suppose. 
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Midge Mo'yb
Antares Shipyards
Hoodlums Associates
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Posted - 2009.06.24 10:21:00 -
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Originally by: Caelum Dominus
I'd like to see this documentary. Can it be downloaded somewhere or watched online?
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/another-perfect-world/4od#2924948 |
Nova Satar
DEATHFUNK
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.24 10:22:00 -
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morale of the story is, quit your whining guy coz we got it pretty good 
I was watching a clip of WoW on the program, and it was basically two character, run at each other and do the equivilent of "bash a". You see the same sword swipe over and over again while the health bar drops....
i was like.. 
WHY DO PEOPLE PLAY THAT GAME? |
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Posted - 2009.06.24 10:23:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
In Grosse Pointe Blank (1997), they showed some Doom II (1994) gamplay ù that's only three years behind. Granted, they mixed together scenes from very very different maps, and completely out of order, but you can't have it all I suppose.
Yeah and Doom II was never available in a cabinet format. Its like they go out of their way to get it wrong. |
Caelum Dominus
Invicta.
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Posted - 2009.06.24 10:26:00 -
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Originally by: Nova Satar
morale of the story is, quit your whining guy coz we got it pretty good
I was watching a clip of WoW on the program, and it was basically two character, run at each other and do the equivilent of "bash a". You see the same sword swipe over and over again while the health bar drops....
i was like..
WHY DO PEOPLE PLAY THAT GAME?
To be frank, PvP gameplay in World of Warcraft is more advanced than the EVE equivalent. Don't get me wrong, I love EVE and I quit WOW long ago, but competetive PvP in WOW is waaaaaaaay ahead of EVE (... in fact, competetive PvP doesn't even exist in EVE). |
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Caelum Dominus
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Posted - 2009.06.24 10:27:00 -
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Originally by: Midge Mo'yb
Originally by: Caelum Dominus
I'd like to see this documentary. Can it be downloaded somewhere or watched online?
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/another-perfect-world/4od#2924948
"Not available in your region"... great. -.-
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Midge Mo'yb
Antares Shipyards
Hoodlums Associates
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Posted - 2009.06.24 10:33:00 -
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Originally by: Caelum Dominus
Originally by: Nova Satar
morale of the story is, quit your whining guy coz we got it pretty good
I was watching a clip of WoW on the program, and it was basically two character, run at each other and do the equivilent of "bash a". You see the same sword swipe over and over again while the health bar drops....
i was like..
WHY DO PEOPLE PLAY THAT GAME?
To be frank, PvP gameplay in World of Warcraft is more advanced than the EVE equivalent. Don't get me wrong, I love EVE and I quit WOW long ago, but competetive PvP in WOW is waaaaaaaay ahead of EVE (... in fact, competetive PvP doesn't even exist in EVE).
Yeah its so advanced everyone uses UI mods to play the game for them... very hard...
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Nova Satar
DEATHFUNK
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.24 10:38:00 -
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these other MMO's just give a distinct impression that it doesnt require a brain.
However they did a bit about Lineage II in Korea... where apporatnyl you need castles and **** to have power, but all the Peasents revolted agaisnt some big empire and had a massive fight, which sounded cool impremise, but when they showed clips and stuff, it was jsut, run at people and bash the button.
Atleast EVE requries some serious tactics and ultimtely skill to do something big.
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BIZZAROSTORMY
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Posted - 2009.06.24 10:39:00 -
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Can someone upload the video to youtube? since channel 4 - which, incidentally I PAY for, wont let me watch it since im not under the queens juristiction. Roland Rats.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.06.24 10:44:00 -
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The annoying thing was that there was no Eve stuff until the end. After watching it for an hour and a quarter I was about to turn if off and go to bed when all of a sudden OMFG THERE'S HARDIN ON THE TELLY
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.06.24 10:44:00 -
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Edited by: Rodj Blake on 24/06/2009 10:44:39
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Posted - 2009.06.24 10:45:00 -
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Originally by: Caelum Dominus
Originally by: Nova Satar
morale of the story is, quit your whining guy coz we got it pretty good
Yes we do, but your arguments are pretty specious.
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I was watching a clip of WoW on the program, and it was basically two character, run at each other and do the equivilent of "bash a". You see the same sword swipe over and over again while the health bar drops....
i was like..
WHY DO PEOPLE PLAY THAT GAME?
Because Eve's 1v1 combat visual experience is so varied.
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...competetive PvP in WOW is waaaaaaaay ahead of EVE (... in fact, competetive PvP doesn't even exist in EVE).
Tell that to the FCs and corp CEOs in 0.0 wars.
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Hardin
Amarr
Kasei Technologies
Shalbatana Systems
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Posted - 2009.06.24 10:51:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake
The annoying thing was that there was no Eve stuff until the end. After watching it for an hour and a quarter I was about to turn if off and go to bed when all of a sudden OMFG THERE'S HARDIN ON THE TELLY
That was kinda my reaction too Rodj  |
Nova Satar
DEATHFUNK
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.24 10:59:00 -
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Originally by: Hardin
Originally by: Rodj Blake
The annoying thing was that there was no Eve stuff until the end. After watching it for an hour and a quarter I was about to turn if off and go to bed when all of a sudden OMFG THERE'S HARDIN ON THE TELLY
That was kinda my reaction too Rodj
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.06.24 10:59:00 -
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Originally by: Caelum Dominus
Originally by: Nova Satar
morale of the story is, quit your whining guy coz we got it pretty good
I was watching a clip of WoW on the program, and it was basically two character, run at each other and do the equivilent of "bash a". You see the same sword swipe over and over again while the health bar drops....
i was like..
WHY DO PEOPLE PLAY THAT GAME?
To be frank, PvP gameplay in World of Warcraft is more advanced than the EVE equivalent. Don't get me wrong, I love EVE and I quit WOW long ago, but competetive PvP in WOW is waaaaaaaay ahead of EVE (... in fact, competetive PvP doesn't even exist in EVE).
As I'm not familiar with WoW PvP, could you expand on that a bit? What do you mean by "competitive PvP" - the term seems like a tautology. |
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Xennith
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.06.24 11:01:00 -
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Originally by: Nova Satar
Are you the guy that looks a like Johnny vegas?
big grin, like hes just sold his mother into slavery for a nice healthy profit.
i thought it was interesting, but a little too obsessed with second life and line-age for my liking. also, did no one tell them that nobody plays the sims online or second life except for furries? |
Hardin
Amarr
Kasei Technologies
Shalbatana Systems
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Posted - 2009.06.24 11:07:00 -
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Originally by: Nova Satar
Originally by: Hardin
Originally by: Rodj Blake
The annoying thing was that there was no Eve stuff until the end. After watching it for an hour and a quarter I was about to turn if off and go to bed when all of a sudden OMFG THERE'S HARDIN ON THE TELLY
That was kinda my reaction too Rodj
Are you the guy that looks a like Johnny vegas?
Yep Just a bit taller... |
Nova Satar
DEATHFUNK
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.24 11:07:00 -
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Edited by: Nova Satar on 24/06/2009 11:07:40
lol, i found it quite funny that they banned that guy in Sims Online becuase it started brining to light all the bad thigns that happen in the game. They just flat out deleted his account..
Devs should start doing that here, that'd shut the whiners up.
"But my falcon is gay..." BAN
"My torps aren't doing good things.." BAN
"I docked but it told me NO" BAN
"I died and it's your fault.." BAN
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Caelum Dominus
Invicta.
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Posted - 2009.06.24 11:16:00 -
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Edited by: Caelum Dominus on 24/06/2009 11:20:17
Edited by: Caelum Dominus on 24/06/2009 11:17:32
Originally by: Midge Mo'yb
Yeah its so advanced everyone uses UI mods to play the game for them... very hard...
Your experience with PvP in World of Warcraft seems limited. Even with tenfolds of 3rd party interface addons to present miscellaneous information, my point still stands.
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Tell that to the FCs and corp CEOs in 0.0 wars.
Pardon - I was referring to gameplay, not consequences. Needless to say, EVE is unparalleled in the department of consequences and goals.
Originally by: Malcanis
As I'm not familiar with WoW PvP, could you expand on that a bit? What do you mean by "competitive PvP" - the term seems like a tautology.
Sure! As far as I'm concerned there's two kinds of PvP; casuals who do it for fun and don't really care how they fare, and nerds who spend hours upon hours refining their "skill". The latter is often dubbed "competetive PvP", and refers to competing with the best.
I'd be inclined to agree that on the casual level, gameplay is much the same and neither game is more advanced than the other. On the top, though, World of Warcraft is in a league of its own. It's a perfect blend of strategy, teamwork and reaction time that EVE tends to lack.
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Bestofworst
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.06.24 11:16:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Caelum Dominus
Originally by: Nova Satar
morale of the story is, quit your whining guy coz we got it pretty good
I was watching a clip of WoW on the program, and it was basically two character, run at each other and do the equivilent of "bash a". You see the same sword swipe over and over again while the health bar drops....
i was like..
WHY DO PEOPLE PLAY THAT GAME?
I really hate to change the subject, but after playing for 4 years, from lvl60 BGs, lvl70 BGs and Arena, lvl80 BGs and Arena and everything in between, it's all about min/maxxing and fotm classes / specs / setups.
Their Frost nova is our webifier, so to speak.
To be frank, PvP gameplay in World of Warcraft is more advanced than the EVE equivalent. Don't get me wrong, I love EVE and I quit WOW long ago, but competetive PvP in WOW is waaaaaaaay ahead of EVE (... in fact, competetive PvP doesn't even exist in EVE).
As I'm not familiar with WoW PvP, could you expand on that a bit? What do you mean by "competitive PvP" - the term seems like a tautology.
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Jastra
Gallente
Black Thorne Corporation
Black Thorne Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.24 11:22:00 -
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Originally by: Nova Satar
Yeah there was this guy on there that makes his living from Second Life, like a virtual store. He truly thought that he was god, he thought he was the coolest cat on the block. It was HILARIOUS lol, in reality....? Sad ****er.
Actually I thought that was pretty cool, just take away what he was doing, which was kinda sad, and looked at the amount of RL money he'd made - he'd basically been able to give up his job and live a comfortable life just by creating graphics for a computer game that someone else created and hosted - that has to be pretty cool - first thing that stuck me was god I wish we could create our own stuff in EVE (like ships, not avatar movements, lol) - and make either ISK or money from that. Second life does nothing for me but a lot of people do obviously love it.
Only got about half way through it as it's on the PVR but looking forward to seeing EVE - though sounds like it was about the CSM which is kinda sad rather than the guiding hand social club or BoB or the Goons or somesuch which are the more interesting social aspect of the game fir me.
Is EVE a civilisation was also a question I started asking myself as I watched
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Posted - 2009.06.24 11:29:00 -
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My gaming experiences:
EQ: grind grind grind... quit
Anarchy Online: No... to painful to relive.
Horizons: "Hello? Is there anybody in here?" *tumbleweed slowly drifts by*
City of Heroes: Wow! I'm a super champion and I made it to the max level and beat all my super foes! What do I do now? *quits*
WoW Free Trial: see EQ
Second Life: While still trying to figure out the controls a fat chick kept calling me hot and begging for cyber sex. This lasted an hour. *quit*
EVE ONLINE!!: Like walking into a pitch black room and getting kicked hard in the balls by somebody who feels neither guilt nor joy at having done so. |
Caelum Dominus
Invicta.
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Posted - 2009.06.24 11:31:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Reeth
My gaming experiences:
EQ: grind grind grind... quit
Anarchy Online: No... to painful to relive.
Horizons: "Hello? Is there anybody in here?" *tumbleweed slowly drifts by*
City of Heroes: Wow! I'm a super champion and I made it to the max level and beat all my super foes! What do I do now? *quits*
WoW Free Trial: see EQ
Second Life: While still trying to figure out the controls a fat chick kept calling me hot and begging for cyber sex. This lasted an hour. *quit*
EVE ONLINE!!: Like walking into a pitch black room and getting kicked hard in the balls by somebody who feels neither guilt nor joy at having done so.
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Xennith
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.06.24 11:36:00 -
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i enjoyed AO, sure it was a bit grindy and the pvp was shocking and there was no high level content at all until they introduced a dragon (inspired choice there), but it was a real sense of community.
also the guards could be killed really easily and dropped great loot. but everyone was running around with freedom arms pistols because they were the only weapons worth having for pretty much every class except enforcers.
i think the entire documentary was just about how virtual worlds live or die on their communities, and how the communities evolve and shape themselves based on the environment as it grows. eve for example is almost exactly like walking into a dark room and being kicked in the nuts by someone who then procedes to giggle about it. thats a good analogy :) |
Bestofworst
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.06.24 11:47:00 -
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ok my post got atted up by quotes.
WoW PvP, since I've done it for 4 years, from lvl60 BGs to lvl70 BGs and Arena to lvl80 BGs and Arena and everything in between. It has always been about the FOTM Class / Spec / Setup / Team.
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Posted - 2009.06.24 12:13:00 -
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Second Life is more like cyber sex paradise.
I'd rather take the easy road to getting sexual pleasure and watch ****, or get some girl really drunk and then feel guilty about it later when I'm sober.
The hard road of actually working on a girl until she's ready for sexytime has much more satisfaction though. |
Nova Satar
DEATHFUNK
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.24 12:15:00 -
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Originally by: Caelum Dominus
Originally by: Mr Reeth
My gaming experiences:
EQ: grind grind grind... quit
Anarchy Online: No... to painful to relive.
Horizons: "Hello? Is there anybody in here?" *tumbleweed slowly drifts by*
City of Heroes: Wow! I'm a super champion and I made it to the max level and beat all my super foes! What do I do now? *quits*
WoW Free Trial: see EQ
Second Life: While still trying to figure out the controls a fat chick kept calling me hot and begging for cyber sex. This lasted an hour. *quit*
EVE ONLINE!!: Like walking into a pitch black room and getting kicked hard in the balls by somebody who feels neither guilt nor joy at having done so.
*chuckles*
rofl, grats on lasting a whole hour of cyber sex with a fat chick on second life though, better than most
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Doctor Penguin
Amarr
Heavy Influence
Aggression.
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Posted - 2009.06.24 13:14:00 -
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Originally by: Bestofworst
It has always been about the FOTM Class / Spec / Setup / Team.
The critical flaw of WoW - it's PVP is essencially Yu-Gi-Oh! Online - EVE is M:TG.
I don't classify a "PVP" system that is risk-free and requires endless running of raids for the top-tiered loot/RWT as actually being PVP - I classify it as pressing buttons on your computer and because of some mathematical difference between you and him you're always bound to win. EVE, on the otherhand, is real PVP as it has scale, risk and the social factor.
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ceaon
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.06.24 13:22:00 -
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Originally by: Caelum Dominus
Originally by: Midge Mo'yb
Originally by: Caelum Dominus
I'd like to see this documentary. Can it be downloaded somewhere or watched online?
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/another-perfect-world/4od#2924948
"Not available in your region"... great. -.-
i bet is only for uk ... damn ***s ....
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Nigel Sheldon
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2009.06.24 16:28:00 -
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Originally by: ceaon
Originally by: Caelum Dominus
Originally by: Midge Mo'yb
Originally by: Caelum Dominus
I'd like to see this documentary. Can it be downloaded somewhere or watched online?
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/another-perfect-world/4od#2924948
"Not available in your region"... great. -.-
i bet is only for uk ... damn ***s ....
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Hardin
Amarr
Kasei Technologies
Shalbatana Systems
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Posted - 2009.06.24 18:28:00 -
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Edited by: Hardin on 24/06/2009 18:28:24
Okay here for the interest of all non-UK EVE players who can't view the documentary on the More 4 site please find a true pirate style YouTube version of the EVE section:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gwx4XWJvm4c
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Minmatar
Gradient
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2009.06.24 18:29:00 -
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Can I watch 4oD in another country?
Rights agreements mean that our 4oD service is only available in the UK. Even if you are a citizen of the UK you cannot access the service from abroad.
From their help section.
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BRAZEN FURY
Fairlight Corp
Rooks and Kings
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Posted - 2009.06.24 18:39:00 -
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Originally by: Hardin
Edited by: Hardin on 24/06/2009 18:28:24
Okay here for the interest of all non-UK EVE players who can't view the documentary on the More 4 site please find a true pirate style YouTube version of the EVE section:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gwx4XWJvm4c
Awesome. Thanks. |
Lui Kai
Better Than You
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Posted - 2009.06.24 19:15:00 -
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Was I the only person a little creeped out by the "Let's interview people while they bathe in a volcanic pool" section? |
jason hill
Caldari
Clan Shadow Wolf
Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.24 20:27:00 -
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Edited by: jason hill on 24/06/2009 20:27:21
hiya hardin did you get a fee from C4 for the interview ...and if so ...wheres my cut ! |
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Posted - 2009.06.24 20:55:00 -
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Originally by: Midge Mo'yb
Yeah its so advanced everyone uses UI mods to play the game for them... very hard...
I'm afraid you have no idea what you're talking about.
The internal scripting system has been butchered so far down that you can't do much more than display information in a very static manner.
At least it was in that state the last time I played the game, which has been a while, but I doubt Blizzard will lift any of the imposed restrictions.
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Posted - 2009.06.24 21:05:00 -
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WOW pvp is all about what class you play and what class you group with. Much less skill than some of you guys give it.
I used to play my Rogue with a Druid friend and even though we had better gear and we knew how to play our classes really well, we had no chance versus the obviously skillfull Paladins/Death Knights/Resto Druids.
It's always skill that killed my rogue after I would get the opener, do all the necessary attacks in perfect sequence for maximum effect, just to have the other person turn on complete invulnerability bubble and spam 2-3 buttons to kill me.
Sorry, WoW takes no skill.
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Posted - 2009.06.24 21:09:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Placeholder
Originally by: Midge Mo'yb
Yeah its so advanced everyone uses UI mods to play the game for them... very hard...
I'm afraid you have no idea what you're talking about.
The internal scripting system has been butchered so far down that you can't do much more than display information in a very static manner.
At least it was in that state the last time I played the game, which has been a while, but I doubt Blizzard will lift any of the imposed restrictions.
Typical wow macro
line 1 - Activate DPS trinket #1
line 2 - Activate DPS trinket #2
line 3 - Activate Spell that makes the next spell with casting time of 10s or less instant cast
line 4 - Activate 10s high damage spell
hit that button once the timers are up and you have one dead person. Lots of skill....
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Caelum Dominus
Invicta.
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Posted - 2009.06.24 22:12:00 -
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Originally by: Mshappypanties
Typical wow macro
line 1 - Activate DPS trinket #1
line 2 - Activate DPS trinket #2
line 3 - Activate Spell that makes the next spell with casting time of 10s or less instant cast
line 4 - Activate 10s high damage spell
hit that button once the timers are up and you have one dead person. Lots of skill....
obvious troll is obvious. |
Istvaan Shogaatsu
Caldari
Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2009.06.24 22:25:00 -
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Edited by: Istvaan Shogaatsu on 24/06/2009 22:25:28
Originally by: Mshappypanties
Typical wow macro
line 1 - Activate DPS trinket #1
line 2 - Activate DPS trinket #2
line 3 - Activate Spell that makes the next spell with casting time of 10s or less instant cast
line 4 - Activate 10s high damage spell
hit that button once the timers are up and you have one dead person. Lots of skill....
Hah, that's a basic one. My warlock had a macro that would trigger my damage buffs, and apply 5 damage-over-time spells just by mashing one button. Also had my Felhunter set up to automatically remove negative debuffs, and my Succubus to automatically seduce. Now that's easy mode... |
Caelum Dominus
Invicta.
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Posted - 2009.06.24 22:30:00 -
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Edited by: Caelum Dominus on 24/06/2009 22:31:11
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
Hah, that's a basic one. My warlock had a macro that would trigger my damage buffs, and apply 5 damage-over-time spells just by mashing one button. Also had my Felhunter set up to automatically remove negative debuffs, and my Succubus to automatically seduce. Now that's easy mode...
Of course, that wouldn't really get you anywhere if you're competing with the best. This is my point. At the casual level, the PvP "skill cap" is about the same in WOW as EVE. It's on the top of the ladders that the PvP mechanics of WOW really shines, and I can't say the same about EVE. |
ceaon
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Posted - 2009.06.24 22:45:00 -
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quick fact wow dont have pvp is FvF(Faction vs Faction)
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Caelum Dominus
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Posted - 2009.06.24 22:59:00 -
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Originally by: ceaon
quick fact wow dont have pvp is FvF(Faction vs Faction)
argh, so many clueless people in this thread!
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ceaon
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Posted - 2009.06.24 23:04:00 -
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Originally by: Caelum Dominus
Originally by: ceaon
quick fact wow dont have pvp is FvF(Faction vs Faction)
argh, so many clueless people in this thread!
afaik in wow u cant kill any player just some players so that is not pvp for me :P
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Caelum Dominus
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Posted - 2009.06.24 23:06:00 -
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Originally by: ceaon
Originally by: Caelum Dominus
Originally by: ceaon
quick fact wow dont have pvp is FvF(Faction vs Faction)
argh, so many clueless people in this thread!
afaik in wow u cant kill any player just some players so that is not pvp for me :P
well, your knowledge is limited. :p enter the arena; http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/pvp/arena/index.xml
In a nutshell, that's why PvP gameplay is more sophisticated in WOW than in EVE.
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ceaon
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Posted - 2009.06.24 23:11:00 -
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Edited by: ceaon on 24/06/2009 23:11:25
Originally by: Caelum Dominus
Arena, meet caeon. Caeon, meet arena
is same crap because is limited to a location is more like a boxing ring that fights are not natural there is no surprise element
now i notice your sig wtf u want wow in space
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Caelum Dominus
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Posted - 2009.06.24 23:12:00 -
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Originally by: ceaon
Edited by: ceaon on 24/06/2009 23:11:25
Originally by: Caelum Dominus
Arena, meet caeon. Caeon, meet arena
is same crap because is limited to a location is more like a boxing ring that fights are not natural there is no surprise element
now i notice your sig wtf u want wow in space
You make no sense...
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Bestofworst
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Posted - 2009.06.24 23:40:00 -
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Originally by: ceaon
Originally by: Caelum Dominus
Originally by: ceaon
quick fact wow dont have pvp is FvF(Faction vs Faction)
argh, so many clueless people in this thread!
afaik in wow u cant kill any player just some players so that is not pvp for me :P
I'll clear this up, it's weird / stupid that people are safe from SOMETHING. I can't attack my own faction unless in arena or a pre-designated area that is very small and always empty.
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Posted - 2009.06.25 00:34:00 -
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Originally by: Caelum Dominus
Edited by: Caelum Dominus on 24/06/2009 22:31:11
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
Hah, that's a basic one. My warlock had a macro that would trigger my damage buffs, and apply 5 damage-over-time spells just by mashing one button. Also had my Felhunter set up to automatically remove negative debuffs, and my Succubus to automatically seduce. Now that's easy mode...
Of course, that wouldn't really get you anywhere if you're competing with the best. This is my point. At the casual level, the PvP "skill cap" is about the same in WOW as EVE. It's on the top of the ladders that the PvP mechanics of WOW really shines, and I can't say the same about EVE.
I've never played wow, but I'm curious. In what way do you mean that wouldn't work against the best? Do you mean that in elite wow pvp you would be beaten by a team of players with all the best stuff, best mix of characters and best tactics, or do you mean that assuming everyone is 'maxed out' on stuff, characters etc, and it's a like for like match, the elite pvper would be able to beat this sort of macro?
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Posted - 2009.06.25 00:35:00 -
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Originally by: Munchees
Second Life is more like cyber sex paradise.
I'd rather take the easy road to getting sexual pleasure and watch ****, or get some girl really drunk and then feel guilty about it later when I'm sober.
The hard road of actually working on a girl until she's ready for sexytime has much more satisfaction though.
and you need to get laid Sir!
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Posted - 2009.06.25 01:09:00 -
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Iceland is the worlds oldest democracy? I thought it was Ancient Greece... |
Caelum Dominus
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Posted - 2009.06.25 06:56:00 -
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Originally by: dr doooo
I've never played wow, but I'm curious. In what way do you mean that wouldn't work against the best? Do you mean that in elite wow pvp you would be beaten by a team of players with all the best stuff, best mix of characters and best tactics, or do you mean that assuming everyone is 'maxed out' on stuff, characters etc, and it's a like for like match, the elite pvper would be able to beat this sort of macro?
I'm not sure I understand. I'm trying to convey that spamming macros will not cut it when you're playing with the best in World of Warcraft, but let's not derail the topic more than necessary.
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Dray
Caldari
Culture Breach
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Posted - 2009.06.25 16:45:00 -
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WoW doesn't have pvp, people just think it does.
Without a tangible loss its irrelevant. In Eve every loss costs you, it would be interesting to see what would happen if you lost equipment or xp's and levels in WoW though.
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baltec1
Antares Shipyards
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Posted - 2009.06.25 17:00:00 -
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Originally by: Caelum Dominus
Edited by: Caelum Dominus on 24/06/2009 22:31:11
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
Hah, that's a basic one. My warlock had a macro that would trigger my damage buffs, and apply 5 damage-over-time spells just by mashing one button. Also had my Felhunter set up to automatically remove negative debuffs, and my Succubus to automatically seduce. Now that's easy mode...
Of course, that wouldn't really get you anywhere if you're competing with the best. This is my point. At the casual level, the PvP "skill cap" is about the same in WOW as EVE. It's on the top of the ladders that the PvP mechanics of WOW really shines, and I can't say the same about EVE.
I can. PVP in eve is more complex on every level than what wow has.
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Caelum Dominus
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Posted - 2009.06.25 17:24:00 -
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Edited by: Caelum Dominus on 25/06/2009 17:24:46
Originally by: baltec1
I can. PVP in eve is more complex on every level than what wow has.
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baltec1
Antares Shipyards
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Posted - 2009.06.25 17:28:00 -
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Originally by: Caelum Dominus
U MAD A FUNNEH
I KNOWES!!
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Brigitte Helm
Minmatar
Flying Fox Industries
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Posted - 2009.06.25 18:09:00 -
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Just watch the programme and it was very interesting. Some good points made. Since it was about the growth of on line communities and their interaction with the real world I can see why they concentrated on the CSM.
There were some interesting point made by CCP. That goverments are grown from dictatorship. And that power is earn over time. Seemed to imply that as things change the CSM might get power to change Eve directly rather then only advising. I wait to see how that works.
I particularly like the comment that Goons are now not interested in destroying the game... hmmm why do I not believe that 
Hug a Carebear, Kill a pirate, squish a Rat, and tickle a dev.
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EliteSlave
Minmatar
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.06.25 18:32:00 -
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For the best PVP aspects, Play Asherons Call
For the best Consequence based game... play Eve-Online
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Posted - 2009.06.26 18:28:00 -
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The annoying thing was that there was no Eve stuff until the end. After watching it for an hour and a quarter I was about to turn if off and go to bed when all of a sudden OMFG THERE'S HARDIN ON THE TELLY
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