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Munchees	Posted - 2009.06.26 19:21:00 - [1] Why do you have a statue of George Washington in Trafalgar Square? I read it was a gift from Virginia. Isn't it more of an insult, though?
Captain Megadeath	Posted - 2009.06.26 19:22:00 - [2] We have to let the Pigeons crap somewhere. Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails my name actually is short for catherine
ReaperOfSly Gallente 3P1C F41L	Posted - 2009.06.26 19:26:00 - [3] It's probably to celebrate the day we managed to shrug off those annoying colonies. ____________________
Luna Sistere Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2009.06.26 19:43:00 - [4] Originally by: ReaperOfSly It's probably to celebrate the day we managed to shrug off those annoying colonies. I figure it would be a bitter reminder that you shouldn't of turned the dude down when he applied to be an officer in the British forces. Idiot nation bashing aside, the British actually admired the man for his courage and ability to command and lead his troops. He was more or less given riff raff and he turned them into an excellent militia.
Munchees	Posted - 2009.06.26 19:45:00 - [5] Originally by: Luna Sistere I figure it would be a bitter reminder that you shouldn't of turned the dude down when he applied to be an officer in the British forces. Idiot nation bashing aside, the British actually admired the man for his courage and ability to command and lead his troops. He was more or less given riff raff and he turned them into an excellent militia. I thought it was because he was one of the few men they want to hang so badly but couldn't.
Belid Hagen Shade. Cry Havoc.	Posted - 2009.06.26 19:47:00 - [6] Most likely it is because of his efforts during the French and Indian War.
Luna Sistere Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2009.06.26 19:50:00 - [7] Originally by: Munchees Originally by: Luna Sistere I figure it would be a bitter reminder that you shouldn't of turned the dude down when he applied to be an officer in the British forces. Idiot nation bashing aside, the British actually admired the man for his courage and ability to command and lead his troops. He was more or less given riff raff and he turned them into an excellent militia. I thought it was because he was one of the few men they want to hang so badly but couldn't. Nah, you'd see that statue on a noose then or vandalized in the least. No sir, he served in the British forces earlier and did a decent enough job then but when the revolution came about he wanted to play officer and one side needed an officer. The rest, as they say, is history.
Thorliaron Brutor tribe	Posted - 2009.06.26 20:21:00 - [8] Edited by: Thorliaron on 26/06/2009 20:21:18 Originally by: Munchees Why do you have a statue of George Washington in Trafalgar Square? I read it was a gift from Virginia. Isn't it more of an insult, though? no why would it be? he should be so lucky as to be anywhere near Lord Nelson tbh
Kessiaan Minmatar MicroFunks	Posted - 2009.06.26 20:39:00 - [9] Edited by: Kessiaan on 26/06/2009 20:40:29 If King George III would have given the colonies seats in Parliament like most everyone here wanted I doubt the war would have happened at all. Of course, had that happened, there's no way Napoleon would have ever given up Louisiana, at least voluntarily, and the modern-day US, if it existed at all as an independent country (and still a member of the Commonwealth, at that), and not a member of the UK, would be a lot smaller. Mexico would still own California and would have gotten all the gold out of it too, and would likely be much more prosperous than it is today. All speculation, of course, but it's not like I have anything else to do at the moment.
reads41	Posted - 2009.06.26 20:46:00 - [10] Regardless of the reasons, the war of independence reminded us (as much as we'd hate to admit it) that freedom has a price that can't be measured, I'm an Englishman and proud of it, but the war of independence is a timely reminder that all you hold dear can easily be distorted by greed and arrogance, as far as I'm concerned it was a kick in the c**t that we needed, and probably didn't appreciate for 200 years.

TimMc Gallente Extradition	Posted - 2009.06.26 21:59:00 - [11] Originally by: reads41 Edited by: reads41 on 26/06/2009 20:49:49 Regardless of the reasons, the war of independence reminded us (as much as we'd hate to admit it) that freedom has a price that can't be measured, I'm an Englishman and proud of it, but the war of independence is a timely reminder that all you hold dear can easily be distorted by greed and arrogance, as far as I'm concerned it was a kick in the ct that we needed, and probably didn't appreciate for 200 years, and like most lessons learned the hard way not understood. We don't have a **ing constitution or any enforceable rights, obviously the government didn't take it to heart. Oh wait they banned guns, thats what they took to heart.
Munchees	Posted - 2009.06.26 22:24:00 - [12] Originally by: TimMc We don't have a ****ing constitution or any enforceable rights, obviously the government didn't take it to heart. Oh wait they banned guns, thats what they took to heart. If they can't have guns they can't revolt, until the CIA gives them guns.
dr doooo	Posted - 2009.06.26 22:43:00 - [13] From the little I remember of my school history, we lost because of arrogant over confident commanders who made bad decisions, and had to answer too much to a relatively micro-managing, yet arrogant and unhurried Govt on the other side of the ocean. Washington made a few bad decisions himself though, that he was very lucky to get away with. That's what I was taught at an English school anyway. So I guess what the statue says to me is that beyond aptitude and hard work, luck is the most important factor that decides weather you go down in history as a hero or not. What is says about America for giving a gift like that is another thing, but I guess it explains why I got so many Americans running out in front of me looking the wrong way by the National Galery back in my M/C courier days.
Munchees	Posted - 2009.06.26 23:14:00 - [14] Edited by: Munchees on 26/06/2009 23:14:57 Edited by: Munchees on 26/06/2009 23:14:29 Originally by: dr doooo From the little I remember of my school history, we lost because of arrogant over confident commanders who made bad decisions, and had to answer too much to a relatively micro-managing, yet arrogant and unhurried Govt on the other side of the ocean. Washington made a few bad decisions himself though, that he was very lucky to get away with. That's what I was taught at an English school anyway. Here in the US we're taught that we won the war because George Washington defeated William Howe, Thomas Gage, Henry Clinton, Lord Cornwallis, Guy Carleton, George Eliott, John Burgoyne, Banastre Tarleton, Francis Rawdon, and Benedict Arnold in mortal combat (in that order). And because we had freedom on our side or something like that.
Krystal Vernet Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2009.06.26 23:26:00 - [15] Originally by: Munchees Edited by: Munchees on 26/06/2009 23:14:57 Edited by: Munchees on 26/06/2009 23:14:29 Here in the US we're taught that we won the war because George Washington defeated William Howe, Thomas Gage, Henry Clinton, Lord Cornwallis, Guy Carleton, George Eliott, John Burgoyne, Banastre Tarleton, Francis Rawdon, and Benedict Arnold in mortal combat (in that order). And because we had freedom on our side or something like that. I don't recall my history class being quite that extreme, but that's pretty much the tone set in most history classes from elementary on.
BlackDragonShadow Caldari	Posted - 2009.06.26 23:55:00 - [16] Originally by: Munchees Why do you have a statue of George Washington in Trafalgar Square? I read it was a gift from Virginia. Isn't it more of an insult, though? Because he'll kick you in half. This sig was awesome but needs more EvE related content. - Mitnal Fine. EVE Online
TimMc Gallente Extradition	Posted - 2009.06.27 00:46:00 - [17] Originally by: Munchees Originally by: TimMc We don't have a ****ing constitution or any enforceable rights, obviously the government didn't take it to heart. Oh wait they banned guns, thats what they took to heart. If they can't have guns they can't revolt, until the CIA gives them guns. I would prefer not to wait around for a foreign power to give me the power to remove my government.
Arianhod	Posted - 2009.06.27 00:48:00 - [18] Originally by: TimMc Originally by: Munchees Originally by: TimMc We don't have a **ing constitution or any enforceable rights, obviously the government didn't take it to heart. Oh wait they banned guns, thats what they took to heart. If they can't have guns they can't revolt, until the CIA gives them guns. I would prefer not to wait around for a foreign power to give me the power to remove my government. What about the Magna Carta and the EU? EU ***slapped Whaqui Jaqui to the point she has to abbandon much of that ridiculous "mastering the internet" scheme.
TimMc Gallente Extradition	Posted - 2009.06.27 01:26:00 - [19] Originally by: Arianhod What about the Magna Carta and the EU? EU *****slapped Whaqui Jaqui to the point she has to abbandon much of that ridiculous "mastering the internet" scheme. Aye sometimes the EU does some good but it needs more power to enforce the civil rights bills. Magna carta has been slowly phased out since it was signed. Terror laws today are removing alot more of it.
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2009.06.27 01:46:00 - [20] Originally by: Kessiaan Edited by: Kessiaan on 26/06/2009 20:40:29 If King George III would have given the colonies seats in Parliament like most everyone here wanted I doubt the war would have happened at all. Of course, had that happened, there's no way Napoleon would have ever given up Louisiana, at least voluntarily, and the modern-day US, if it existed at all as an independent country (and still a member of the Commonwealth, at that), and not a member of the UK, would be a lot smaller. Mexico would still own California and would have gotten all the gold out of it too, and would likely be much more prosperous than it is today. All speculation, of course, but it's not like I have anything else to do at the moment. Mexicos funk is more about 1% owning 99% of the land and not giving a crap about the rest than any gold in California, it would've changed nothing. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As

annoing Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2009.06.27 02:12:00 - [21] Originally by: Munchees Why do you have a statue of George Washington in Trafalgar Square? I read it was a gift from Virginia. Isn't it more of an insult, though? No, I think you'll find we got the upper hand in that insult, we used soil imported from America for the statue to stand on as old Georgey boy said he'd never set foot in the UK ... ha! Ask to use the Goats Pleasure Palace when you visit the Fanfest this year
Jago Kain Amarr Ramm's RDI	Posted - 2009.06.27 07:23:00 - [22] Originally by: TimMc Originally by: Arianhod What about the Magna Carta and the EU? EU ****slapped Whaqui Jaqui to the point she has to abbandon much of that ridiculous "mastering the internet" scheme. Aye sometimes the EU does some good but it needs more power to enforce the civil rights bills. Magna carta has been slowly phased out since it was signed. Terror laws today are removing alot more of it. The Magna Carta cannot be "phased out", it is one of the cornerstones of what passes for a judicial system here and any statute law that goes against it is effectively illegal. This hasn't stopped parliament from misbehaving over the years, but then I suppose nobody with enough power/money to do anything about it has been bothered enough to actually do something about it. Oh well. ___________________________________________________ The game will never be over, because we're keeping the meme alive.*
Alexeph Stoekai Stoekai Corp	Posted - 2009.06.27 10:48:00 - [23] Originally by: Luna Sistere I figure it would be a bitter reminder that you shouldn't of turned the dude down when he applied to be an officer in the British forces. Originally by: Danton Marcellus Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
TimMc Gallente Extradition	Posted - 2009.06.27 13:50:00 - [24] Originally by: Jago Kain Originally by: TimMc Originally by: Arianhod What about the Magna Carta and the EU? EU ***slapped Whaqui Jaqui to the point she has to abbandon much of that ridiculous "mastering the internet" scheme. Aye sometimes the EU does some good but it needs more power to enforce the civil rights bills. Magna carta has been slowly phased out since it was signed. Terror laws today are removing alot more of it. The Magna Carta cannot be "phased out", it is one of the cornerstones of what passes for a judicial system here and any statute law that goes against it is effectively illegal. This hasn't stopped parliament from misbehaving over the years, but then I suppose nobody with enough power/money to do anything about it has been bothered enough to actually do something about it. Oh well. You know the UK and Poland asked to be exempt from the Treaty of Lisbons enforcement by the EU courts? Quote:** (e.g. UK opt-out from some legislation in the area of freedom, security and justice).
Munchees	Posted - 2009.06.28 04:26:00 - [25] Originally by: TimMc You know the UK and Poland asked to be exempt from the Treaty of Lisbons enforcement by the EU courts? Quote: (e.g. UK opt-out from some legislation in the area of freedom, security and justice). Those polacks are always stirring up trouble.


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