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ArcDragon Caldari FUSION INDUSTRIES	Posted - 2009.06.27 02:20:00 - [1] I have compiled everything I know (and everything you know, too) about wormholes to include four different threads originated by me totaling more than 50,000 hits. All threads were revamped and clarified as well as spell checked. All work with the guide and the facts to include verification, editing and posting is my own except where credit is given. The guide has a linked Table of Contents as well as some illustrations. ò The purpose of this guide is to take players who know little or nothing about Wormholes (also referred to as W-spaces and holes) or POS setup and defense to the point of being able to select, move in and stay in their Wspace. ò Wormhole tactics will also be covered and will include information on how to take advantage of your island among the stars. It will not cover full explanations on how the game mechanics allow or will not allow certain things to happen as that would make the guide too vague or bloated to be useful. ò It is not the intent of this guide to explain all the details about the numerous menus and submenus of POSs themselves but rather the strengths and weaknesses of various POS modules and why they work or do not work for wormholes. ò The majority of this guide is from my own experience from running a wormhole-based corporation in a Class 5 (Fusion Industries). There is also a good portion that was derived from numerous other players and they have my full thanks and appreciation. ò As with all Eve guides and advice, feel free to ignore what you want at your own peril. Hosting is provided by my wife who lets me stay up all night playing Eve, YOUR THE BEST, LOVE! Current version is 1.01 Link to the PDF version. Partial Change Log: v1.01 Corrected minor type-o's and grammar errors. Clarified some tactics and changed all but one picture due to not being able to track its origins. Initial Release 6/26/09
Nyota Sol Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2009.06.27 11:42:00 - [2] Bravo!!!!! Very nice job. This inspires me to update my Exploration blog. I'll try to give it a more careful read and give feedback.
Some Advisor	Posted - 2009.06.27 13:29:00 - [3] whot? no more credits for me? :-< iam ashamed
ArcDragon Caldari FUSION INDUSTRIES	Posted - 2009.06.27 13:44:00 - [4] I wish I could give credit, I'd give a whole page to it, but the task is enormous, there are over 200 replies. Out of those replies, some are worthless, some are good. Out of those that are good, some were confirmation of what was already known and posted, others were genuinely helpful. If anyone wishes to go through them and compile a list of names that were reasonably helpful, I'll put them in with no problem.
SillyWaif Galactic Kingdom	Posted - 2009.06.28 11:12:00 - [5] Interesting read. Thanks for putting it in a pdf.
Minchurra Caldari	Posted - 2009.06.28 14:21:00 - [6] Confirming this is an awesome read. Contains lots of good info, as well as common sence things that everybody forgets. A must read for people/corps starting up in wormholes.
Turiel Demon Minmatar Shadow Reapers	Posted - 2009.06.29 04:22:00 - [7] Very nice Arc, good work
Ashmira Wintereyes Caldari Free Spirits	Posted - 2009.06.29 14:05:00 - [8] Cheers mate, nice work, although you can start rewriting some parts allready ;) page 19: 5. Magnetic and Radar sites are rare. Ladar and Gravimetric sites breed like horny bunnies in the spring time. Patch 1.3: Tech 3 production and reverse engineering will be receiving a major boost in terms of increased radar sites in wormhole space, increased drop rates of Tech 3 datacores along with increasing the runs on the blueprints from reverse engineering jobs. I have not logged on yet so real increase should be confirmed still, but hey, we believe CCP when they say so right!
Ashmira Wintereyes Caldari Free Spirits	Posted - 2009.06.29 14:50:00 - [9] Take also in consideration of the POS section the following patchnotes: Starbases, Outposts and Stations * Multiple changes have been made to the anchoring and onlining of starbase modules and structures. All offensive starbase structure anchoring times have been reduced by 50% and all offensive starbase structure online times have also been reduced by 50%. Defensive starbase structures such as hardeners will have their anchoring, online and un-anchor times reduced by 50%. Finally, all starbase tower un-anchoring times have been reduced by 50%. So ninja pos'es can be build 50% faster now .... but your own ETA will be shorter too for W-Space ofcoz
ArcDragon Caldari FUSION INDUSTRIES	Posted - 2009.06.29 15:06:00 - [10] Yeah, I read those notes 2 days ago and was very happy about the POS setup times...and then I realized I'd have to push out a new version like just a matter of days after it launched! I do plan on making those revisions as well as some others, thanks! If it has a SAVE button...I'm not interested.

DonSailieri Dark-Rising	Posted - 2009.06.29 16:32:00 - [11] hands down to a great piece 'o work.
Jarvis Hellstrom Gallente The Flying Tigers	Posted - 2009.06.29 16:34:00 - [12] Someone needs to Sticky this. It's awesome. Great job Arc. May God stand between you and harm in all the Empty places you must walk (Old Egyptian Blessing)
Jarvis Hellstrom Gallente The Flying Tigers	Posted - 2009.06.29 19:24:00 - [13] One thing I noticed about the guide that I didn't see was the relationship of Wormhole entrances to known systems. It almost seems assumed that folks know how these interrelate - but I know I don't. Improvement on this would help a lot. One thing that scares folks about holes is being able to get home again if it closes on you. I know the one time one closed behind us jumping an attacking fleet through, I had a very long haul back home in an Interceptor through largely enemy space. Pretty hairy! Just my .02 ISK, but more detail on how the actual holes relate to other hole space and Kspace would be really helpful. Still a great job though! May God stand between you and harm in all the Empty places you must walk (Old Egyptian Blessing)
ArcDragon Caldari FUSION INDUSTRIES	Posted - 2009.06.29 19:59:00 - [14] TY Jarvis, I added a few paragraphs on those subjects, I'm just waiting for some more radar data to come in as it looks like they bumbed up the drops from them by a factor of 10! If it has a SAVE button...I'm not interested.
Wu Marusyn Solar Quest	Posted - 2009.06.29 21:38:00 - [15] link doesnt work?
Bei Arejay	Posted - 2009.06.30 10:09:00 - [16] Hi ArcDragon. Loved this guide, I will donate some small change to you for your efforts, and will encourage others to do so, hopefully it will add up :) It rivals Halada's mining guide in it's accessibility and quality. I'm not sure if this is the thread you wanted feedback in, so let me know if i should put it elsewhere. Even tho I am a 4 million SP player, and Apoc was rleased right around the time i joined the game, I have spent much of my time in WH space, as the corp i joined set up a POS early on. Currently we are residing in our 2nd uks - Class 2 UKS with a 'Static' B274, and using it as a jump off point to other systems. I would be interested how rare a static highsec hole is, and whether or not we are onto a good thing. I for one think it is very nice being able to 0.5+ jump to empire anytime. We have had some amazing Highsec WH space spawns, including once having a direct WH, right ontop of one of the big Trade hubs, and once we had one 1 jump from Jita. Handy for selling loot The only objection I have with your guide is that it does not really cover setting up a POS for a young player corp. Your guide seems to indicate that Class 1-3 wh's are not really worth the effort, and for old players i agree, but for young mining/pvp corps they can be very very profitable. Having access to Ark, Bist etc for your young miner makes the game far more exciting than scratching around mining Veld in Empire! Whilst my experience parralels your guide very closeley in terms of WH's and sites (although i have never entered into class4+ combat) there is one word of warning I think you should add to your section on wormholes. At least 3 times I have seen a WH dissapear right infront of my eyes despite having 25%+ life left and having 25%+ capacity left. Is this a bug or do other players have experience with WH's imploding premetureley? Once this happened right after I jumped into a neighboring UKS to haul some ore. I didn't have a probe lancher on my ship at the time. I learnt the hard way: ALLWAYS equip a scan probe launcher on your ship if you are leaving your system! anyway, thankyou for this great guide.
Bei Arejay	Posted - 2009.06.30 10:20:00 - [17] P.S. sticky this thread!
Herzog Wolfhammer	Posted - 2009.06.30 15:15:00 - [18] +1 Vote for sticky.
ArcDragon Caldari FUSION INDUSTRIES	Posted - 2009.06.30 16:43:00 - [19] Edited by: ArcDragon on 30/06/2009 16:45:27 Feedback here is most welcome. The premature imploding wormhole phenominon is not unknown. CCP contends that all wormholes are "unstable" and therefore the mechanic is correct. This, however, is what CCP's left hand is telling us, the right hand is the one that knows if it is a bug or not. I am of the opinion that it is a bug or if it is not a bug then it should be removed as a mechanic, remove it or remove the wormhole descriptions you see with a show info as they mean nothing. I hesitate to put a blurb about that in there because the jury is still out on it. Could be awhile too. As for the rarity of a static direct to high sec wormhole, I have not laid eyes on one, but that means nothing as it takes awhile to figure that out. As far as I know, there are no statistics on such a question, but if you find one, it will indeed be a very valuable asset! You'll have to be on your guard a lot, but it would be very useful. Weebil wrote a guide more geared towards young/starter corps going for class 1 through 3. It is in the missions and complex thread and is linked here. I might see if he wishes to include it into the guide, or I might go ahead and write out a cheap quick and dirty way of moving in. Thanks for the feedback all, keep it coming. If it has a SAVE button...I'm not interested.
ArcDragon Caldari FUSION INDUSTRIES	Posted - 2009.07.01 02:46:00 - [20] Updated to 1.02. If it has a SAVE button...I'm not interested.

zeepbel fairweather	Posted - 2009.07.01 10:31:00 - [21] Very nice guide! One question I had for times now, it might be impossible to answer it. If you are in W-space and you find a wh by scanning it, will there be a K162 wh on whatever destination already or only from the moment you activate your side of the wh?
ArcDragon Caldari FUSION INDUSTRIES	Posted - 2009.07.01 13:54:00 - [22] That has been asked before Zeepbel, we can only piece it together like this: If you are in a Wspace and you hit a wormhole on your scanner then your half of the wormhole is now definatly in existance. When you warp to it it will have a designation that is NOT K162. Another point is that when you look at it, it has the COLOR of the destination system it leads to. The color is always correct. On top of that Eve knows to say if it leads to dangerous, known, unknown etc space. So, from YOUR end, it seems that the wormhole is complete. Here is where it gets a little murky. If all wormholes were complete and every Wspace has at least one static wormhole (2499 Wspaces) then what are the odds that your wormhole will have only your static wormhole for days on end? It is statistically possible, just not probable. We do know that once a ship goes through the newly found wormhole that a K162 appears in the destination Wspace. So here is the rub, unless you have someone in the destination Wspace at exactly the point where the K162 will open up and that guy coordinates with the guy that found the original end of the same wormhole to say, "Yeah, I see it right now and you have not even gone through it yet!" then we can never fully answer your question. What you need is to be in the right spot at the right time and wittness a K162 opening up WITHOUT a ship appearing within, say 1 minute of it opening. OR YOU COULD sleep with a developer or programmer and use a soft tickly feather to find out your answer! I'd do that. If it has a SAVE button...I'm not interested.
Some Advisor	Posted - 2009.07.01 14:03:00 - [23] Originally by: ArcDragon We do know that once a ship goes through the newly found wormhole that a K162 appears in the destination Wspace. So here is the rub, unless you have someone in the destination Wspace at exactly the point where the K162 will open up and that guy coordinates with the guy that found the original end of the same wormhole to say, "Yeah, I see it right now and you have not even gone through it yet!" then we can never fully answer your question. What you need is to be in the right spot at the right time and wittness a K162 opening up WITHOUT a ship appearing within, say 1 minute of it opening. OR YOU COULD sleep with a developer or programmer and use a soft tickly feather to find out your answer! I'd do that. hard indeed. what i noticed so far... i have usually a static u210 (lowsec) in "my" corridor from my home. once i went a bit of afk before going trough. i came back and the u210 still had the "has not yet begun its natural lifetime" (and u210 is 24h so it shoudl have "less than 24h") the second i go trough,i ill just add 3 minutes to the timer and have a pretty accurate time of when the u210 will collapse. iam pretty sure the second i go trough i "poke" a k162 somewhere that didnt existed the second before just my observation :)
Herzog Wolfhammer Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2009.07.01 15:38:00 - [24] So the thing is, to find one side of a WH and know where the other side is, and have a friend in that system and tell him to scan it for a WH first before you enter it and see if the system has that WH, or if one appears where there was not one before you went through it. Ok then. Where is that Probability Drive module?
ArcDragon Caldari FUSION INDUSTRIES	Posted - 2009.07.01 17:35:00 - [25] I'd rather try to sleep with female employees. If it has a SAVE button...I'm not interested.
Star Defender Caldari	Posted - 2009.07.01 21:50:00 - [26] Talk about "bottoming out" - have you seen the datacore market prices tanking since the patch? Take a look at my recap - pretty sick drop - an apparent change in spawns as well - we will need to re-post our site spawn summaries...
Some Advisor	Posted - 2009.07.01 22:17:00 - [27] Edited by: Some Advisor on 01/07/2009 22:17:40 Originally by: Herzog Wolfhammer So the thing is, to find one side of a WH and know where the other side is, and have a friend in that system and tell him to scan it for a WH first before you enter it and see if the system has that WH, or if one appears where there was not one before you went through it. cant be that hard... we got about 40k players logged in most of the time we "only" have like 5k systems. jsut get one guy in each system, make a time. scan. then "everyone" jumps trough a wormhole and rescan and see what happens easy :P and i still think the k162 will "spawn" the second i jump trough. because i catch victims aehh uhh. guests of the corridor or lowsec who were not aware of the wormhole 1 sec before :>
ArcDragon Caldari The Hole Patrol	Posted - 2009.07.02 20:44:00 - [28] Updated to 1.03 If it has a SAVE button...I'm not interested.
ArcDragon Caldari The Hole Patrol	Posted - 2009.07.09 18:11:00 - [29] Pulled 2.1 Billion from two core mag sites and 1 radar frontier site in a C5 completed within 4 hours. WOOOT! If it has a SAVE button...I'm not interested.
Herzog Wolfhammer Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2009.07.09 18:22:00 - [30] Originally by: ArcDragon Pulled 2.1 Billion from two core mag sites and 1 radar frontier site in a C5 completed within 4 hours. WOOOT! I hate you.

Bado Sten Minmatar Dead poets society	Posted - 2009.07.10 15:19:00 - [31] An amazing guide that answered a lot I wanted to know. Thanks a lot!
Big Gulpp	Posted - 2009.07.11 11:11:00 - [32] Edited by: Big Gulpp on 11/07/2009 11:10:59 Arcdragon, it should be required reading for your corp, considering they failed to pop my small pos in w-space. Otherwise nice job!
ArcDragon Caldari The Hole Patrol	Posted - 2009.07.16 20:51:00 - [33] /bump Next update will be to add how to take down a POS properly :) If it has a SAVE button...I'm not interested.
Herzog Wolfhammer Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2009.07.16 23:11:00 - [34] Originally by: ArcDragon /bump Next update will be to add how to take down a POS properly :) So that's what happened to my towers :( Just kidding.
Manny theMiner Smoking Hillbillys	Posted - 2009.07.26 05:07:00 - [35] Just wanted to drop another line to say thank you for a great guide. (and also move this up to page 1 as I notice A LOT of similar question threads.... ) Please resize your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Navigator
ArcDragon Caldari The Hole Patrol	Posted - 2009.07.26 06:50:00 - [36] Pushed out v1.04, see partial change log for details. If it has a SAVE button...I'm not interested.
Gajet Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2009.07.26 09:47:00 - [37] Edited by: Gajet on 26/07/2009 09:47:32 Hah, Returning to Eve after a 6 month break and needed to catch up on the Apocrypha stuff. Came here to ask for a guide to Wormholes and here this is on the front page. Perfect, huge thanks!
Some Advisor	Posted - 2009.07.26 11:42:00 - [38] Edited by: Some Advisor on 26/07/2009 11:42:43 webpage still says 1.03 ;) damnit: 9 min too early or so ;)
ElectricDolphin	Posted - 2009.07.26 13:27:00 - [39] EXCELLENT work ArcDragon. I've been using the thread where you started to compile all this data from day 1 and think this guide that evolved out of it is one of the best eve guides out there. It is damn near required reading in our corp.
ArcDragon Caldari The Hole Patrol	Posted - 2009.07.26 17:10:00 - [40] I really do appreciate the compliments! The website now has version 1.04. If it has a SAVE button...I'm not interested.

WhiteGhostBear Furs of New Eden	Posted - 2009.07.27 02:17:00 - [41] This guide deserves to remain on the front page instead of yet another Caldari Navy Raven Uber Mission Fit post. Thanks for your hard work.
Jotobar	Posted - 2009.07.27 02:31:00 - [42] Originally by: Some Advisor Edited by: Some Advisor on 01/07/2009 22:17:40 Originally by: Herzog Wolfhammer So the thing is, to find one side of a WH and know where the other side is, and have a friend in that system and tell him to scan it for a WH first before you enter it and see if the system has that WH, or if one appears where there was not one before you went through it. cant be that hard... we got about 40k players logged in most of the time we "only" have like 5k systems. jsut get one guy in each system, make a time. scan. then "everyone" jumps trough a wormhole and rescan and see what happens easy :P I don't see any flaw with this plan. and i still think the k162 will "spawn" the second i jump trough. because i catch victims aehh uhh. guests of the corridor or lowsec who were not aware of the wormhole 1 sec before :>
small chimp	Posted - 2009.07.27 16:44:00 - [43] BUMP B UMP why isnt this thread stickied?
ArcDragon Caldari The Hole Patrol Eych Four Eks Zero Ahr	Posted - 2009.07.30 14:47:00 - [44] /bump because I still see questions being asked in these forums that are explicitly covered in this guide. If it has a SAVE button...I'm not interested.
Tereliss Verr	Posted - 2009.07.30 15:41:00 - [45] Originally by: ArcDragon That has been asked before Zeepbel, we can only piece it together like this: If you are in a Wspace and you hit a wormhole on your scanner then your half of the wormhole is now definatly in existance. When you warp to it it will have a designation that is NOT K162. Another point is that when you look at it, it has the COLOR of the destination system it leads to. The color is always correct. On top of that Eve knows to say if it leads to dangerous, known, unknown etc space. So, from YOUR end, it seems that the wormhole is complete. Here is where it gets a little murky. If all wormholes were complete and every Wspace has at least one static wormhole (2499 Wspaces) then what are the odds that your wormhole will have only your static wormhole for days on end? It is statistically possible, just not probable. We do know that once a ship goes through the newly found wormhole that a K162 appears in the destination Wspace. So here is the rub, unless you have someone in the destination Wspace at exactly the point where the K162 will open up and that guy coordinates with the guy that found the original end of the same wormhole to say, "Yeah, I see it right now and you have not even gone through it yet!" then we can never fully answer your question. What you need is to be in the right spot at the right time and wittness a K162 opening up WITHOUT a ship appearing within, say 1 minute of it opening. OR YOU COULD sleep with a developer or programmer and use a soft tickly feather to find out your answer! I'd do that. Hmmm sounds a bit like the (when a tree falls in a wood, does it make a sound if there is no one to hear it) scenario, P.S. Great guide will donate when I have done my first WH sucessfully
Mynxee Minmatar Hellcats The Bastards.	Posted - 2009.07.30 17:05:00 - [46] Awesome guide! Gonna link it on my blog. Bump It! \| My Blog: Life in Low Sec
Bei Arejay	Posted - 2009.07.31 09:48:00 - [47] Like the imrovements :) Is it possible to include (or does anyone know of) a guide to fighting sleepers uisndg remote rapairing in battleships? I kind of understand the theory but would love someone to write it out in clear easy steps. Most of the spider tanking guides i find are for PvP. I would be very grateful of your help. My aim is to move on to Class 4 combat, using a 3 man team to RR. Is this possible? Thanks for your time.
ArcDragon Caldari The Hole Patrol Eych Four Eks Zero Ahr	Posted - 2009.07.31 13:20:00 - [48] Using 3 battleships with T2 fittings in a class 3 is about as low as you want to cut it. If you get into faction fits or T2 ships then you can do C3 with less ships. For a Class 4 I seriously doubt 3 RR T2 fitted regular battleships will do. You should try 5 or so battleships at least. I will add an outline of how to fight sleepers with a RR gang as that is the ONLY way we do it. No ETA on that though, my wife is coming to town today and I'll be....busy. If it has a SAVE button...I'm not interested.
Hector Martyr	Posted - 2009.07.31 16:34:00 - [49] I was wondering. When setting up the POS, are the defences for keping out players only? Or do the Sleepers roam the space at random too?
Herzog Wolfhammer Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2009.07.31 17:45:00 - [50] Originally by: Hector Martyr I was wondering. When setting up the POS, are the defences for keping out players only? Or do the Sleepers roam the space at random too? I read a lot about WH space on the forums and wherever else I find, and have yet to hear of any cases of Sleepers carrying out a raid. Half the WH systems I find these days have a POS in them, so if this could happen, is would have occured by now. Of course, it would be cool if it did happen. It would appear that a POS does not have a combat log like a ship does. So if you come back to find your POS damaged, how is it found out what occured? Don't know.

ArcDragon Caldari The Hole Patrol Eych Four Eks Zero Ahr	Posted - 2009.08.02 18:22:00 - [51] Your POS will generate an "under attack" evemail once every hour. You will also get kill mails from it. If it has a SAVE button...I'm not interested.
Ashmira Wintereyes Caldari Free Spirits	Posted - 2009.08.05 08:15:00 - [52] A shameless bump from me
Tereliss Verr	Posted - 2009.08.06 15:06:00 - [53] Bump!!!
fcosta	Posted - 2009.08.06 16:29:00 - [54] very good guide. Its a must have in my archives. Allready printed it at workso i can read it in the public transportation. Keep up the good work
Agrilad	Posted - 2009.08.06 21:21:00 - [55] Don't know how great it is, cause I am still reading it. But instead of keeping notes on my part. I'll post as I find things to post about. "Sad but true, wormholes eventually trickle out nothing for days on end. CCP has specifically stated that wormholes were not meant for long term habitation, this is what they probably meant by it. It is not known (as wormholes have not been around long enough) exactly how long this takes to occur." This is caused by an exploration mechanic that few understand. It holds true for anything you find through exploration. (ie. Exploration Sites, Complexes, FW, Wormholes, ... ) Well maybe not wormholes themselves, I think they are governed by other mechanics. * Each constellation in the game has a fixed number of each type (or group of types) of exploration site at any one time. * As you complete an exploration site and it despawns. It spawns randomly in another system in the constellation. * If you constantly only run exploration sites in 1 system of a constellation. With no one running exploration sites in the other systems of the same constellation. Eventually all exploration sites are pushed out of the 1 system, into all the other constellation systems. * Wormhole systems are grouped into constellations, same as the rest of eve. Therefore, the petering out is you pushing all the exploration sites into other systems in the constellation. And not enough people in the those other systems pushing them back.
Tereliss Verr	Posted - 2009.08.07 14:49:00 - [56] oppps bump
Guillieme Lohran	Posted - 2009.08.10 14:41:00 - [57] This deserves better than page 4. Bump.
Miss Moonwych Formedian Shadows	Posted - 2009.08.10 17:09:00 - [58] Edited by: Miss Moonwych on 10/08/2009 17:11:57 Originally by: Agrilad Don't know how great it is, cause I am still reading it. But instead of keeping notes on my part. I'll post as I find things to post about. "Sad but true, wormholes eventually trickle out nothing for days on end. CCP has specifically stated that wormholes were not meant for long term habitation, this is what they probably meant by it. It is not known (as wormholes have not been around long enough) exactly how long this takes to occur." This is caused by an exploration mechanic that few understand. It holds true for anything you find through exploration. (ie. Exploration Sites, Complexes, FW, Wormholes, ... ) Well maybe not wormholes themselves, I think they are governed by other mechanics. * Each constellation in the game has a fixed number of each type (or group of types) of exploration site at any one time. * As you complete an exploration site and it despawns. It spawns randomly in another system in the constellation. * If you constantly only run exploration sites in 1 system of a constellation. With no one running exploration sites in the other systems of the same constellation. Eventually all exploration sites are pushed out of the 1 system, into all the other constellation systems. * Wormhole systems are grouped into constellations, same as the rest of eve. Therefore, the petering out is you pushing all the exploration sites into other systems in the constellation. And not enough people in the those other systems pushing them back. This is correct. And let me add something to this: If you are determined (and patient) enough you (e.g. a corp) can get an alt in (almost) every system of a single constellation. That way you can make sure you will always have fresh sites since you "own" the constellation. Of course for that you need to know where you are in W-space . Regards, M.M.
Keledia The Photon Raiders	Posted - 2009.08.11 01:34:00 - [59] Great Guide. Over the past few days, my curiosity for exploration has gone back up again and this guide has tempted me go to back into WH's. Heck, i may even spend a couple of days in a class 1 for an experiment heh. One quick question though, has anyone compiled a list of all the WH ID's/numbers and what they mean? For instance: K162....I see this type all the time! Does K162 mean it's an entrance or that it leads to a specific type of WH? Kel
Herzog Wolfhammer Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2009.08.11 03:46:00 - [60] Originally by: Keledia Great Guide. Over the past few days, my curiosity for exploration has gone back up again and this guide has tempted me go to back into WH's. Heck, i may even spend a couple of days in a class 1 for an experiment heh. One quick question though, has anyone compiled a list of all the WH ID's/numbers and what they mean? For instance: K162....I see this type all the time! Does K162 mean it's an entrance or that it leads to a specific type of WH? Kel My personal favorite link, but there is also a "Wormhole Thingy" program too. Don't have the link though. Wormhole tool online

Frenden Dax Dax Acquisitions	Posted - 2009.08.11 06:09:00 - [61] Originally by: Keledia One quick question though, has anyone compiled a list of all the WH ID's/numbers and what they mean? For instance: K162....I see this type all the time! Does K162 mean it's an entrance or that it leads to a specific type of WH? Kel For your viewing pleasure: http://www.eve-metrics.com/wormholes As to what K162 means, it's the 'exit' side of a wormhole. For example, if I'm chillin' in my Class 3 system and I scan down my daily wormhole to highsec, the first time I go through it I will create an 'exit' wormhole tagged as K162 in the highsec system. Originally by: "CCP Pann" Over the last few days, the internet has been under attack
ArcDragon Caldari The Hole Patrol Eych Four Eks Zero Ahr	Posted - 2009.08.14 18:04:00 - [62] Working on version 1.05. Any requests on what to add? If it has a SAVE button...I'm not interested.
ArcDragon Caldari The Hole Patrol Eych Four Eks Zero Ahr	Posted - 2009.08.18 18:39:00 - [63] /bump because people are still asking questions that are answered here. If it has a SAVE button...I'm not interested.
ArcDragon Caldari The Hole Patrol Eych Four Eks Zero Ahr	Posted - 2009.08.31 20:02:00 - [64] Spruced up the website a little. Added several sections. This will most likely be my last update for awhile. If it has a SAVE button...I'm not interested.
Crassus Silverwolf Caldari Liberty Forces	Posted - 2009.09.01 10:49:00 - [65] VV useful & thanks for your effort on this. ArcDragon I just wondered if you had any further information on the Carrier use in the WH. We have found the need to deploy a drone assembly array & build loads of new drones for the losses we are experiencing out here. Also did you find that you were able to Solo the Core Anomolies in the Class 5 Wormholes? I have just about been able to do this & that was deploying 15 drones out of the Chimera. Any useful tips would be appreciated...... Great job & thanks.
Rocky Sullivan Amarr Demolition Crew	Posted - 2009.09.01 14:23:00 - [66] question... ok about scanning a wh, does a wh already exist before i scan it down, or it only exist after i scanned it.
ArcDragon Caldari The Hole Patrol Eych Four Eks Zero Ahr	Posted - 2009.09.01 14:38:00 - [67] Edited by: ArcDragon on 01/09/2009 14:41:03 I've got some experience about using Chimera's in WHs alright :) Yes, we too employ a drone assembly array to keep up with drone losses. We can loose 200-700 heavy drones on a nice C5 magnetic site. We only use T1s to cut down on the expense of loosing so many drones. Even with 4-6 battleships helping we can go through 300 or so drones easily. So, in short, make them yourselves and use only T1s. You can do sites solo in a Chimera due to an excellent personal tank, but you spawn those extra 6 sleepers which (when I was doing solo in carrier) will eat up more than 40,000m3 of drones! You can forget using fighters at all as just 2 sleeper BS's will near insta pop a fighter. And something I have just recently discovered: The power or Triage mode. HOOLY COW. It's powerful. I highly recommend you train for it. 3 days ago four of us decided to do a core garrison site in our own C5 wormhole. A chimera and 3 battleships. Using triage mode for the initial 20-30 minutes we were doing fine. Then along came a gang of 13-15 hostiles! With triage mode in that carrier I was able to keep 3 battleships and myself alive even with 2 sleeper battleships and 5 sleeper cruisers attacking us on top of the 13-15 other players! In the end, they neuted the carriers capacitor and we all went down. I'm still recovering from that one. Do not under estimate the lure of a carrier kill. These guys came from 2 wormholes over to find us and then mounted an attack in our home system with more than 2 POSs. So, if you are going to use a carrier I highly recommend never failing procedures such as choking the wormholes for protection. The second you let up on security is the second some jackass with a heron will find you and call his bored-ass mates to come and ruin your day! If it has a SAVE button...I'm not interested.
ArcDragon Caldari The Hole Patrol Eych Four Eks Zero Ahr	Posted - 2009.09.01 14:42:00 - [68] Rocky: The wormhole already exists before you scan it. What's in question is does its exit exist before you go through it. If it has a SAVE button...I'm not interested.
Crassus Silverwolf Caldari Liberty Forces	Posted - 2009.09.01 16:09:00 - [69] hmmmmm intresting points there ArcDragon. I was wondering whether to train up Triage been on my list but not been ready to push the training. Based on what you were saying think I will go for it. Intresting you cap'd out, I have taken to fitting an 800 cap booster on my Chimera for that issue saved my bacon against the Sleepers a few times. I think i took off my Boost amplifier. TBH I am damn happy to be in a quiet area of space in comparision to the hassle of living in Empire, Low & Null sec...... Great guide & thanks for info ....... Hope we bump into each out there in WH-space but not shooting .....
Herzog Wolfhammer Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2009.09.01 17:03:00 - [70] Edited by: Herzog Wolfhammer on 01/09/2009 17:03:23 Originally by: ArcDragon Edited by: ArcDragon on 01/09/2009 14:41:03 I've got some experience about using Chimera's in WHs alright :) Yes, we too employ a drone assembly array to keep up with drone losses. We can loose 200-700 heavy drones on a nice C5 magnetic site. We only use T1s to cut down on the expense of loosing so many drones. Even with 4-6 battleships helping we can go through 300 or so drones easily. So, in short, make them yourselves and use only T1s. You can do sites solo in a Chimera due to an excellent personal tank, but you spawn those extra 6 sleepers which (when I was doing solo in carrier) will eat up more than 40,000m3 of drones! You can forget using fighters at all as just 2 sleeper BS's will near insta pop a fighter. And something I have just recently discovered: The power or Triage mode. HOOLY COW. It's powerful. I highly recommend you train for it. 3 days ago four of us decided to do a core garrison site in our own C5 wormhole. A chimera and 3 battleships. Using triage mode for the initial 20-30 minutes we were doing fine. Then along came a gang of 13-15 hostiles! With triage mode in that carrier I was able to keep 3 battleships and myself alive even with 2 sleeper battleships and 5 sleeper cruisers attacking us on top of the 13-15 other players! In the end, they neuted the carriers capacitor and we all went down. I'm still recovering from that one. Do not under estimate the lure of a carrier kill. These guys came from 2 wormholes over to find us and then mounted an attack in our home system with more than 2 POSs. So, if you are going to use a carrier I highly recommend never failing procedures such as choking the wormholes for protection. The second you let up on security is the second some jackass with a heron will find you and call his bored-ass mates to come and ruin your day! Dedicated scanning ships, my friend. Dedicated scanning ships. You should have seen that coming. Intel will beat a killmail addicted Jan Brady fleet any day.

ArcDragon Caldari The Hole Patrol Eych Four Eks Zero Ahr	Posted - 2009.09.01 17:59:00 - [71] You are absolutley right Herzog. We had not been attack in that hole for more than 4 months and got just got complacent. The irony of writing the book on it and still getting whacked does not escape me :) If it has a SAVE button...I'm not interested.
Herzog Wolfhammer Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2009.09.01 23:49:00 - [72] Originally by: ArcDragon You are absolutley right Herzog. We had not been attack in that hole for more than 4 months and got just got complacent. The irony of writing the book on it and still getting whacked does not escape me :) I think the problem here is that everybody wants to spank and tank but nobody wants to run D-scanners and probes. Having done it numerous times for WH crews, it's kind of like mining but with an occasional dose of raw fear. I liken it to the Combat Controllers and their role.
Crassus Silverwolf Caldari Liberty Forces	Posted - 2009.09.04 10:43:00 - [73] Bumped because it ought to be ......
Zhew	Posted - 2009.10.03 09:25:00 - [74] bump also, anyone have new insights or information about wormholes that should be shared?
Shay Foil	Posted - 2009.10.28 23:12:00 - [75] Amazing Info - Bump - Thanks
Xyfu Minmatar The Nietzian Way	Posted - 2009.10.29 15:13:00 - [76] The guide mentions bubbles, and the fact that they stay past downtime... What bubbles are these? I can only think of hictor bubbles, which need a ship there, and WD probes, which last 2 minutes or so, right? (I'm inexperienced in this, by the way.) _____ ^ That is a sig line. It should be there without me having to put one in.
Liteshow Caldari The Leather Knights Aegis Militia	Posted - 2009.10.29 15:32:00 - [77] Originally by: Xyfu The guide mentions bubbles, and the fact that they stay past downtime... What bubbles are these? I can only think of hictor bubbles, which need a ship there, and WD probes, which last 2 minutes or so, right? (I'm inexperienced in this, by the way.) He's referencing drag bubbles Please resize sig to a maximum of 400 x 120 - Mitnal
Xyfu Minmatar The Nietzian Way	Posted - 2009.10.31 12:13:00 - [78] Thanks. _____ ^ That is a sig line. It should be there without me having to put one in.
Exquina	Posted - 2009.11.01 13:58:00 - [79] hello. Do you know if Capital ships spawn additional Sleeper Ships in a Class 3 WH ? or only in class 4,5 and 5. ty vm.
Jaaphur	Posted - 2009.11.01 15:58:00 - [80] I'd just like to know if there is a resource on what sleepers spawn per wave in a particular type of combat site per different WH class - sort of like Eve-Survival is for missioning. slightly off-topic: a similar resource for 0.0 deadspace complexes and explorations sites would be also useful, if someone has any links handy

Ace Secunda Aperture Harmonics	Posted - 2009.11.02 01:23:00 - [81] Sleeper Sites Just a note, it was discovered this evening that the hardest Magnet site in the C6 wormholes may have had a trigger change in the last few days which could cause catastrophic operation failure due to high DPS levels. It has been noted in our guides. 'If I can't blow it up It don't exsist'
ArcDragon Caldari The Hole Patrol Eych Four Eks Zero Ahr	Posted - 2009.11.07 14:51:00 - [82] I have been called to active duty and I am currently deployed. I have been for months now. I do not have internet access due to enemy activity so the Hole Patrol is NOT currently recruiting as the guide says. I am unable to push out a new version. Stay Frosty guys/gals. If it has a SAVE button...I'm not interested.
ElectricDolphin3 Caldari Stargazer Exploration Company	Posted - 2009.11.15 13:45:00 - [83] If I missed the answer somewhere, apologies. This is a simple question though. I am wondering if a C4 wormhole can spawn vital or instrumental ladar sites. Anyone have info on this?
khazak mokl	Posted - 2009.11.15 14:17:00 - [84] Originally by: ElectricDolphin3 If I missed the answer somewhere, apologies. This is a simple question though. I am wondering if a C4 wormhole can spawn vital or instrumental ladar sites. Anyone have info on this? Gravs and Ladars can spawn in any type of sleeper system from c1s to c6s but statistically they have a greater chance of spawning in systems around there own level. i.e c1/c2 spawn perimeter sites.c3/c4 spawn frontier sites.c5/c6 spawn core sites. So you can get instrumental and vitals in low end systems but the chances are slim.
Qui Shon	Posted - 2009.11.15 15:45:00 - [85] Originally by: ArcDragon I have been called to active duty and I am currently deployed. I have been for months now. I do not have internet access due to enemy activity so the Hole Patrol is NOT currently recruiting as the guide says. I am unable to push out a new version. Stay Frosty guys/gals. Aww, I'm sorry to hear that. Stay safe irl Arc. Sorry,...because I was hoping to run accross you guys one of these days, preferably when you had the Chimera out . You know, because my grandmother read your guide and told me to go get one of those tasty carrier km's. She heard they were that good.
Herzog Wolfhammer Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2009.11.16 06:40:00 - [86] Originally by: ArcDragon I have been called to active duty and I am currently deployed. I have been for months now. I do not have internet access due to enemy activity so the Hole Patrol is NOT currently recruiting as the guide says. I am unable to push out a new version. Stay Frosty guys/gals. Stay safe and watch your six.
Whizz Mo	Posted - 2009.11.30 19:20:00 - [87] That's a damn nice guide you've got going there. A couple of editing notes, some of which may seem "grammar not-z"-ish: 1) On page 13, the following: Class 1, 2 or three should probably be: Class 1, 2 or 3 2) On page 21, the following: An Exceptional field as all ore types including Mercoxit should probably be: An Exceptional field has all ore types including Mercoxit 3) On page 32, under item 5, the following: nonfiction counterpart should probably be: non-faction counterpart 4) On page 33, the following: You getting Podded. might mean: You may get Podded. or You will get Podded. Hope this helps, Whizz
Cursor Miner	Posted - 2009.12.08 20:31:00 - [88] Originally by: ArcDragon Edited by: ArcDragon on 01/09/2009 14:41:03 I've got some experience about using Chimera's in WHs alright :) Yes, we too employ a drone assembly array to keep up with drone losses. We can loose 200-700 heavy drones on a nice C5 magnetic site. We only use T1s to cut down on the expense of loosing so many drones. Even with 4-6 battleships helping we can go through 300 or so drones easily. So, in short, make them yourselves and use only T1s. You can do sites solo in a Chimera due to an excellent personal tank, but you spawn those extra 6 sleepers which (when I was doing solo in carrier) will eat up more than 40,000m3 of drones! You can forget using fighters at all as just 2 sleeper BS's will near insta pop a fighter. And something I have just recently discovered: The power or Triage mode. HOOLY COW. It's powerful. I highly recommend you train for it. 3 days ago four of us decided to do a core garrison site in our own C5 wormhole. A chimera and 3 battleships. Using triage mode for the initial 20-30 minutes we were doing fine. Then along came a gang of 13-15 hostiles! With triage mode in that carrier I was able to keep 3 battleships and myself alive even with 2 sleeper battleships and 5 sleeper cruisers attacking us on top of the 13-15 other players! In the end, they neuted the carriers capacitor and we all went down. I'm still recovering from that one. Do not under estimate the lure of a carrier kill. These guys came from 2 wormholes over to find us and then mounted an attack in our home system with more than 2 POSs. So, if you are going to use a carrier I highly recommend never failing procedures such as choking the wormholes for protection. The second you let up on security is the second some jackass with a heron will find you and call his bored-ass mates to come and ruin your day! Very wise words!
ArcDragon Caldari The Hole Patrol Eych Four Eks Zero Ahr	Posted - 2009.12.16 18:42:00 - [89] bump, because 22 thousand hits cant be wrong! If it has a SAVE button...I'm not interested.
Anita Geist	Posted - 2009.12.18 18:43:00 - [90] Nice guide, I have a question about grav site sleepers in a class 3, It said in the guide that they are the easiest to deal. My question is what mission level are the class 3 grav site sleepers? -Thanks

DOA KillerWolf Caldari Orphaned Renegades	Posted - 2009.12.18 19:12:00 - [91] Originally by: Anita Geist Nice guide, I have a question about grav site sleepers in a class 3, It said in the guide that they are the easiest to deal. My question is what mission level are the class 3 grav site sleepers? -Thanks From what I noticed they are Cruiser sized. I did one last night and it had just two of these. Hope that helps!!!
Anita Geist	Posted - 2009.12.19 15:26:00 - [92] Originally by: DOA KillerWolf Originally by: Anita Geist Nice guide, I have a question about grav site sleepers in a class 3, It said in the guide that they are the easiest to deal. My question is what mission level are the class 3 grav site sleepers? -Thanks From what I noticed they are Cruiser sized. I did one last night and it had just two of these. Hope that helps!!! it does, at least I know what to expect now. Thanks
ReguIator Double-Down	Posted - 2009.12.27 19:29:00 - [93] Page 26: 14. "This wormhole has had its stability critically disrupted by the mass of numerous ships passing through and is on the verge of collapse." means it has less than 5% to 7% of its allowable mass left. I beleive I've managed to prove this one wrong... Our system has a static H296 (3,000,000,000kg total mass) I brought it to the "verge of colapse" message with an industrial (11,750,000kg). By the percentages above; that would mean that the WH had between 138,250,000kg and 210,000,000kg remaining. At this point; I jumped my orca (250,000,000kg) back to our home system; fully expecting to colapse the wormhole. It did not colapse.... As I write this; the WH is still there, and I'm affraid to jump anything through it =D With this information; it puts the minimum pct at 8.33%; which I would assume to be 10%. The reason that most people assume that it is lower; is because they are thinking of it wrong. When the message first changes, it does not mean that "This wormhole has x mass"; it means "This wormhole has LESS THAN x mass". People are forgetting that the last ship they jumped through before the message changed, has already dropped the WH Mass lower than the given percentage. V/r, ReguIator
Nareg Maxence Gallente JotunHeim Hird	Posted - 2009.12.28 12:30:00 - [94] Edited by: Nareg Maxence on 28/12/2009 12:30:07 Are the environmental effects accurate? What does the max range multiplier in black holes apply to? I have been in a black hole system and targeting range is not affected.
Miyuki Shirafune Hedion University	Posted - 2009.12.28 18:55:00 - [95] The sleeper spawns for the LADAR/Grav sites are not dependent on WH class, but rather on the type of site that is spawned. That being said, you will overwhelmingly see the Instrumental and Vital Core LADAR sites in Cl5/6 wspaces - and correspondingly see the tough spawns there. Spawns for some sites: Barren Perimeter Reservoir: 3 Emergent Patrollers, 2 Emergent Watchmen Minor Perimeter Reservoir: 2 Emergent Patrollers Token Perimeter Reservoir: 1 Emergent Watchman, 2 Awakened Escort Ordinary Perimeter Reservoir: 5 Sirius Sentry Guns Sizeable Perimeter Reservoir: 1 Awakened Watchman, 3 Emergent Patrollers Bountiful Perimeter Reservoir: 3 Emergent , 2 Awakened Defenders Vast Perimeter Reservoir: 2 Awakened Defenders, 2 Awakened Upholders Common Perimeter Deposit: 5 Awakened Patrollers Unexceptional Frontier Deposit: 2 Awakened Watchmen, 2 Awakened Patrollers, 1 Awakened Escort Fake Edit: Ack, I didn't realize this is already in Eve-Survival. Oh well, cheers and happy wormbearing.
ArcDragon Caldari Ghost Data Eych Four Eks Zero Ahr	Posted - 2009.12.31 16:09:00 - [96] Made all of the grammer fixes, thanks Wizz! Changed it from 7% to 10%, thanks ReguIator! Making a version that will be readable via the IGB. Ok, maybe the wife is instead... If there is anything you guys/gals want to add, pls be specific with fixes/grammer errors as well as what you want added in. I figure maybe within a week I will have the new version out. If it has a SAVE button...I'm not interested.
Cheque Casher	Posted - 2010.01.04 17:19:00 - [97] Extra guardians now spawn a total of 28 spawn using 2 carriers and 2 dreads.
Due Humming	Posted - 2010.01.25 21:43:00 - [98] I read this in the wormhole guide; "Using Carriers OR Dreadnoughts WILL spawn 6 additional Battleships if you use them on Magnetic sites in a Class 5 or 6." Obviously the first capital you warp to a site will spawn 6 Sleepless Guardians. However, I've heard that every capital you warp after that will spawn another 6+2 battleships, that number gradually increasing for every capital you warp. To express it in a formula; 6+(2*Total Capitals Warped in - 2) Is this true? If it isn't please could you say how it does work. Thanks.
Vjorn Angannon	Posted - 2010.02.01 02:34:00 - [99] To ArcDragon, First of all, thnx to you and your corp for all the hard work ya'll have done in compiling and creating this guide. Also, if you're still downrange, keep ur head down, watch ur six and come back to us safe!!! To the community, Perhaps this noob needs to take a "how to use the search button" course.... I have been trying to find for a week now any information on what sleepers do how much dps, to no (or very little) avail. Does anyone know of such a list? Failing that, how can I go about collecting this information? In other words, how do I extract the info my my combat logs, figure in my resists to get the sleeper dps (mathematically)? Perhaps this would be good info for v 1.07 or 08? Stay frosty, Vj
ArcDragon Caldari Ghost Data Eych Four Eks Zero Ahr	Posted - 2010.02.06 00:00:00 - [100] Edited by: ArcDragon on 06/02/2010 00:04:18 I sincerely apprectiate the kudos, tyvm! In answering the BS spawns due to capital ships warping to the sleeper site grid the second capital should make the total 14 sleeper battleships. That would mean 6, then 8. It is a rare bird that anyone would do this as 14 of these mean BSs would take down all but the most prepared ships, so data on this comes from less than a handful of players claiming to have done it. If I recall correctly, as there are 4 or 5 threads containing hundreds of entries now, it goes 6, 8,8,8... Most players prefer to put one capital on grid, kill the 6 and then bring in the second capital. Two capitals PLUS a support fleet handle these sites quite well. The trick is to survive the first 6 as they can crack a Chimera. As to the damage these bastards inflict, it can be jaw dropping when you get primaried. I put in a ballpark figure in the guide but if you are wanting better, then the way I would do it would be to make ONE resist 0%, say EM. Their weapons do omni damage but their missiles do two types and thier guns do the other two. When you have one resist at zero this makes backing out the original damage amount eaiser. You'd have to check your combat logs that (I think) are in a text file in your eve documents folder. Scan through it and make note of which weapon is hitting you and start from there. The formulas for calculating damage have more than just 2 or even 3 variables in them. You will not get the exact original amount of damage unless you find these equations posted on the internet somewhere (at one time they were). Who knows if theyare still accurate. Most players use something like eve survial that gives a ballpark figure on dps, like 2500dps for some level 5 missions. I know they can eat up 15000 shields with 80-90 resists accros the board faster than a non triaged carrier can target them (C5 wh). Another thing players want to know is sleeper resists. The 70/70/70/70 resist was arrived at by a clever player who's name I can not remember atm. He used smartbombs. One of each damage type and back out the resists that way. Smart bombs do not have a whole lot of variables. I do not think he did this for all classes of wormholes, however. If anyone wishes to experiment to find more accurate or even confirm sleeper damage resists, that would be lovely. My wife is still working on the in game version of the guide as her webdesign business is peaking at the moment. She also started to play Eve! Her name is Lex Divinia if you want to tell her how lovely she is. I am still deployed and I am currently sharing a satelite 512K connection with about 50 others, so I play at night with a lag that would make you cry. And yes, my body armor is always close because playing Eve while wearing armor is freakin cool! If it has a SAVE button...I'm not interested.

MadMentor Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2010.02.06 04:55:00 - [101] Kudos to you, nice job. ---
Sto VoKor Caldari	Posted - 2010.03.18 11:07:00 - [102] Anybody who has the guide as pdf willing to sent it to me? Obviously the site is down: http://www.fiercewebs.com/arcdragon/EverythingWormhole106.pdf Thanks in Advance!
Gala Chi	Posted - 2010.03.18 11:25:00 - [103] the link http://www.fiercewebs.com/arcdragon/EverythingWormhole.pdf does work (just remove the 106 from the link)
Sto VoKor Caldari	Posted - 2010.03.18 12:59:00 - [104] Originally by: Gala Chi the link http://www.fiercewebs.com/arcdragon/EverythingWormhole.pdf does work (just remove the 106 from the link) Thanks a ton :)
ArcDragon Caldari Ghost Data Eych Four Eks Zero Ahr	Posted - 2010.03.21 19:01:00 - [105] Bump/ Added new in game browser to a new website. If it has a SAVE button...I'm not interested.
OPX2	Posted - 2010.03.21 20:37:00 - [106] Nice work!
ArcDragon Caldari Ghost Data Eych Four Eks Zero Ahr	Posted - 2010.04.07 09:49:00 - [107] /Bump I'll be coming home soon, this means I could actually PLAY Eve soon! If it has a SAVE button...I'm not interested.
Alaik Northstar Syndicate	Posted - 2010.04.07 20:33:00 - [108] I feel I ought to add my appreciation for this guide. Wonderfully informative resource, and has encouraged me to get away from running missions and start roaming within the unknown. Thank you for all the time you have put into this!
ArcDragon Caldari Ghost Data Eych Four Eks Zero Ahr	Posted - 2010.04.12 13:04:00 - [109] Bump, cuz I can. If it has a SAVE button...I'm not interested.
ArcDragon Caldari Ghost Data Eych Four Eks Zero Ahr	Posted - 2010.04.14 04:11:00 - [110] Thinking about adding a short section on scanning, as well as ship setups. If it has a SAVE button...I'm not interested.

ArcDragon Caldari Ghost Data Eych Four Eks Zero Ahr	Posted - 2010.04.18 05:14:00 - [111] Working on scanning section and ship setup section, God help me on the ship setup section.... If it has a SAVE button...I'm not interested.
Herzog Wolfhammer Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2010.04.19 03:22:00 - [112] Well you will certainly have an easier time with it at this point as WH-capable ships, as a concept, are developing well. I see a lot of threads regarding "best solo WH fit", "best small gang WH fit", etc. I read most of them and there is a pattern developing.
ArcDragon Caldari Ghost Data Eych Four Eks Zero Ahr	Posted - 2010.04.19 10:53:00 - [113] The ship fit section is watered down in my opinion, but to do it proper would take a complete guide unto itself, and you'd never hear the end of it. It's all done. The scanning section assumes prior experience and simply walks you through scanning tricks and highlights. The guide won't tell you where the scan button is but it will tell you all you need to know about wormholes and then some. I'll be bumping this thread every now and again. Version 1.07 will be posted within 48 hours or so, depending on the wife's mood! If it has a SAVE button...I'm not interested.
ArcDragon Caldari Ghost Data Eych Four Eks Zero Ahr	Posted - 2010.04.20 13:47:00 - [114] Documents changed to v1.07. Online version will be updated later...probably much later. Anticipate a German translated version of 1.06 to be available sometime in the future as well. If it has a SAVE button...I'm not interested.
ArcDragon Caldari Ghost Data Eych Four Eks Zero Ahr	Posted - 2010.04.26 06:00:00 - [115] /bump If it has a SAVE button...I'm not interested.
Amaegith Caldari Black Star Drilling Inc	Posted - 2010.04.30 18:32:00 - [116] Hi there, first off thanks for the guide, this has proved invaluable to me already. I did have one slight nit-pick: Page 55 in the pdf: "For example, a Bustard has 40 million kg of mass but can haul 30,000 m3. An Orca has 250 million kg and can haul 90k m3. Which is better? The Bustard is! Although the Orca can carry 3 times what the Bustard can it also sucks up almost twice the mass the Bustard would to do the same job!" I understand the idea behind your example, but I think either you, or I missed something. Using EFT, with max skills and rigged / expanded for cargo, the bustard has a 33,357m^3 cargo capacity. The orca, under the same conditions, has a 105,341m^3 cargo capacity, both of which is close to your exampled numbers. However, the orca also has a 40,000m^3 corporate hangar bay and a 50,000m^3 ore holding bay, bringing it's total (ore) hauling capacity to 195,341m^3. In a ratio of kg : m^3 capacity, the bustard sits at a 1,199.15 : 1 ratio, where the orca sits at 1,279.81 : 1 ratio. It would seem with my simple understanding of the game that the orca would 'win' in this regard, did I miss something?
ArcDragon Caldari Ghost Data Eych Four Eks Zero Ahr	Posted - 2010.05.01 08:38:00 - [117] Nope, I can see you are correct. The reason that mistake got through is that at the time I was not able to pilot an Orca. Therefore the details that I should have known, the ore hold (which was not around at the time of publishing) and the corp hangar holding ore were left out of the example. I think I will leave it in as is. Reason being is that once an orca pilot has read this guide and thinks to himself as you did, then the example does what it was meant to do, which is to show how to calculate the best ship for the job. An orca pilot will eventually see that cargo space was omited and will know how to calculate the correct ratios. At this time I do not forsee pushing out any more version, but if there is, I will consider using more accurate numbers. The only reason I might hesitate to use an Orca to go through a hole is that the mass would have a greater impact on the stability of the wormhole. You might want to put smaller ships through to maintain more control over the shrinking of the hole. Other than that, great catch on finding the error! If it has a SAVE button...I'm not interested.
Tactiker	Posted - 2010.05.09 20:51:00 - [118] Edited by: Tactiker on 09/05/2010 20:51:42 cant i trigger the 6 additional bs in a class 4 in any way? I read this many times and now im not sure about that. I also read that they will also spawn in any combat side/ anomalie in a class 4 when you warp in with a capital.
Helmh0ltz Blue is the New Red	Posted - 2010.05.10 17:27:00 - [119] What is the use of the sticky function if stuff like this isn't stickied? ====== Your signature is freakishly huge for this forum. Please resize according to the forum rules, thanks. Shadow.
ArcDragon Caldari Ghost Data Eych Four Eks Zero Ahr	Posted - 2010.05.29 03:23:00 - [120] /bump If it has a SAVE button...I'm not interested.

Boogie Bobby	Posted - 2010.05.29 03:59:00 - [121] Awesome guide! When you make it home I shall raise a pint to you. And if we ever are at the same base, then you can get me back for said pint ;)
ArcDragon Caldari Ghost Data Eych Four Eks Zero Ahr	Posted - 2010.05.31 19:12:00 - [122] /bump Anyone got a spare C6 wormhole lying around? If it has a SAVE button...I'm not interested.
Betty Sw'ollocks	Posted - 2010.05.31 21:20:00 - [123] A fine community resource, thankyou sir for your hard efforts. I can't wait for my next WH epic voyage.... any news on the surprise sites CCP put in the patch ?
ArcDragon Caldari Ghost Data Eych Four Eks Zero Ahr	Posted - 2010.06.06 07:29:00 - [124] Have not seen any mystery dungeons yet myself, but I have not been looking either. This is a partially camoflou... bump too! If it has a SAVE button...I'm not interested.
ArcDragon Caldari Ghost Data Eych Four Eks Zero Ahr	Posted - 2010.07.01 19:21:00 - [125] /bump If it has a SAVE button...I'm not interested.
ArcDragon Caldari Ghost Data Eych Four Eks Zero Ahr	Posted - 2010.07.06 04:30:00 - [126] /bump If it has a SAVE button...I'm not interested.
ArcDragon Caldari Ghost Data Eych Four Eks Zero Ahr	Posted - 2010.07.09 01:09:00 - [127] /bump If it has a SAVE button...I'm not interested.
ElectricDolphin3 Caldari Stargazer Exploration Company	Posted - 2010.07.12 11:29:00 - [128] Originally by: ArcDragon /bump Anyone got a spare C6 wormhole lying around? Have a scout in a C5 with a static C6 looking for a particular sort myself. If you're still looking, let me know what kinds you prefer and I'll give a shout when it turns up.
ArcDragon Caldari Ghost Data Eych Four Eks Zero Ahr	Posted - 2010.07.31 03:55:00 - [129] /bump If it has a SAVE button...I'm not interested.
SephiriotH LIGHTS 0UT Rebellion Alliance	Posted - 2010.07.31 11:48:00 - [130] The guide is not bad and was generally useful for me to understand how to harass W-space pilots better To the point : guide misses such quite important topics for w-space would-like-to-triers as - 1. t3 production (modules, processes, resources) core information. 2. Planetary resources and their usage/profitability for w-space living. (form my point : planets in w-space are a lot more reachier then most 0.0 planets).

ArcDragon Caldari Ghost Data Eych Four Eks Zero Ahr	Posted - 2010.08.13 04:36:00 - [131] If anyone still reads this far down, can someone confirm or deny capital ship escalation in a C4 wormhole? I am pretty sure it will not, but I am in no position to test. If it has a SAVE button...I'm not interested.
xillini	Posted - 2010.08.13 12:57:00 - [132] This topic needs a sticky to the top, this has been a great resource! Thanks ArcDragon!
T'san Manaan Minmatar	Posted - 2010.08.17 15:56:00 - [133] great guide, thanks for all the work you put into this.
Lotus Starshine	Posted - 2010.08.17 16:21:00 - [134] This has to be one of the funniest guides ever. "The Goal of Your Hole" Very helpful. Thank you. Got stuck in a WH the other day b/c I didn't bring scanners and probes. Lost about $160 million. Wish I had of read this first. Thanks!
Swaffer	Posted - 2010.08.17 18:43:00 - [135] I can confirm that c4 wormholes do not spawn the capital escalations of 6 extra BS.
Ankbar	Posted - 2010.08.31 20:10:00 - [136] I really like this guide. Our corp may be using it soon to guide us into w-space. The link on page 9 about w-space effects is out of date.
Cypress Cavalero The Maverick Navy IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.09.02 00:08:00 - [137] Even though I dont have the intention to ever run w/holes(was browsing here to look into it as they keep popping up in our constellation!) I came across this! Very well written and comprehensive, why is there no glue applied to this thread! Free Bump, props for a great guide!
Daneel Trevize Black Viper Nomads	Posted - 2010.09.12 11:41:00 - [138] Edited by: Daneel Trevize on 12/09/2010 11:42:39 Putting this here. Mini Daneel WH app as of 12th Sept 2010 Gives you the class, effect and static details for any given wormhole system.
ArcDragon Caldari Ghost Data Eych Four Eks Zero Ahr	Posted - 2010.10.09 20:18:00 - [139] Thanks Mini, I have visions of a revamp to fix the broken links, ad PI as it pertains to holes, and I will go over this thread with a fine tooth comb. If it has a SAVE button...I'm not interested.
ArcDragon Caldari Ghost Data Eych Four Eks Zero Ahr	Posted - 2010.10.30 23:54:00 - [140] /bump If it has a SAVE button...I'm not interested.

ArcDragon Caldari Ghost Data Eych Four Eks Zero Ahr	Posted - 2010.12.04 06:53:00 - [141] /bump from Rocket City, Afghanistan! If it has a SAVE button...I'm not interested.
KWyz	Posted - 2010.12.04 19:45:00 - [142] Great guide ArcDragon, more people like you should be spamming the forums with this kind of quality stuff. I personally know three people who joined WH corps just for that. Another bump for the awesomness.
ArcDragon Caldari The Hole Patrol	Posted - 2010.12.16 15:37:00 - [143] /bump! PS: 500lb bombds ARE LOUD. If it has a SAVE button...I'm not interested.
ArcDragon Caldari The Hole Patrol	Posted - 2010.12.30 14:12:00 - [144] /bump anybody got some good internet they can put in a box for me?? If it has a SAVE button...I'm not interested.
Daneel Trevize Black Viper Nomads	Posted - 2010.12.30 15:47:00 - [145] Unfortunately it takes a big box and expensive hauling
ArcDragon Caldari Ghost Data Eych Four Eks Zero Ahr	Posted - 2011.01.10 08:50:00 - [146] /bump If it has a SAVE button...I'm not interested.
ArcDragon Caldari Ghost Data Eych Four Eks Zero Ahr	Posted - 2011.01.11 04:15:00 - [147] Added Planetary Interaction and proofed the entire document. Fixed broken links as well, TY guys for the feedback, I can't always see the errors. PS: Yes, there is a rickroll in this version. If it has a SAVE button...I'm not interested.
ArcDragon Caldari Ghost Data Eych Four Eks Zero Ahr	Posted - 2011.01.13 16:10:00 - [148] shameless bump. If it has a SAVE button...I'm not interested.
ArcDragon Caldari Ghost Data Eych Four Eks Zero Ahr	Posted - 2011.01.25 12:04:00 - [149] Even more shamless of a bump right here, yup. If it has a SAVE button...I'm not interested.
Apollo Gabriel Brotherhood Of Fallen Angels Etherium Cartel	Posted - 2011.01.25 15:25:00 - [150] I think this guide rules, bumpy in the night. Best regards, Apollo Gabriel

Floydd Heywood	Posted - 2011.01.25 16:31:00 - [151] I read this guide before I moved into w-space with my corp about a year ago, and it was very useful. That said, there were and still are a lot of errors in the "facts" department, and more importantly, some very useful information is missing. I think that's great though, because the more ignorant players are out there, the better for us
ArcDragon Caldari Ghost Data Eych Four Eks Zero Ahr	Posted - 2011.01.26 07:31:00 - [152] Edited by: ArcDragon on 26/01/2011 07:33:10 Please elaborate, list the errors for me and I'll do my best to correct them. List what information you think is missing and I'll consider adding them. If it has a SAVE button...I'm not interested.
ArcDragon Caldari Ghost Data Eych Four Eks Zero Ahr	Posted - 2011.02.20 06:12:00 - [153] /bump for the 6 wh questions on the first page of the forums today. If it has a SAVE button...I'm not interested.
Shaera Taam Minmatar Minmatar Death Squad Broken Chains Alliance	Posted - 2011.02.27 18:42:00 - [154] arc, thx for the guide... only came across it today and plan on reading it cover-to-cover! a bunch of my time recently has been spent getting myself purposefully lost in w-space in order to figure some of this stuff out myself... but i gotta admit that this guide of your will prolly save me buying loads of t1 fitted probes! best, and keep your head down out there! ST __________________________________________________ Gravity: It's not just a good idea, it's the law!" --Adam Savage, Mythbusters
Daneel Trevize Black Viper Nomads	Posted - 2011.02.27 21:05:00 - [155] WormNav - Wormhole exploration tool
ArcDragon Caldari Ghost Data Eych Four Eks Zero Ahr	Posted - 2011.03.12 08:05:00 - [156] /bump If it has a SAVE button...I'm not interested.
Garheed	Posted - 2011.04.10 05:17:00 - [157] Any advice on how to compare and contrast different wormhole corps? Great guide, you should port it to the new forums.
Ed Wuncler3rd Amarr STRAG3S	Posted - 2011.04.12 13:00:00 - [158] Originally by: Floydd Heywood I read this guide before I moved into w-space with my corp about a year ago, and it was very useful. That said, there were and still are a lot of errors in the "facts" department, and more importantly, some very useful information is missing. I think that's great though, because the more ignorant players are out there, the better for us He's right, there are some errors in the text reguarding the "facts", and he's also right in that it's OK, there's those that know and those that don't, and the ones that went out there and did it deserve it, and the ones that sit on the sidelines will either jump into the game or stay the hell out. I'm a 2 year WH vet and I've read your guide a couple times, I think you did a pretty good job, you missed some things, but i think it's better that you did... Goodwork, no BS...
ArcDragon Caldari Ghost Data Eych Four Eks Zero Ahr	Posted - 2011.04.26 15:21:00 - [159] /bump If it has a SAVE button...I'm not interested.
ArcDragon Caldari Ghost Data Eych Four Eks Zero Ahr	Posted - 2011.06.19 07:59:00 - [160] /bump If it has a SAVE button...I'm not interested.

ArcDragon Caldari Ghost Data Eych Four Eks Zero Ahr	Posted - 2011.06.20 05:01:00 - [161] /bump again. If it has a SAVE button...I'm not interested.
ArcDragon Caldari Ghost Data Eych Four Eks Zero Ahr	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:34:00 - [162] /bump about to deploy again. If it has a SAVE button...I'm not interested.
Mervent Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.25 04:56:00 - [163] Best wishes ArcDragon and stay safe.
ArcDragon Caldari Ghost Data Eych Four Eks Zero Ahr	Posted - 2011.07.30 18:26:00 - [164] /bump still deployed. If it has a SAVE button...I'm not interested.
ArcDragon Caldari Ghost Data Eych Four Eks Zero Ahr	Posted - 2011.08.04 13:02:00 - [165] /bump If it has a SAVE button...I'm not interested.
ArcDragon Caldari Ghost Data Eych Four Eks Zero Ahr	Posted - 2011.08.09 00:55:00 - [166] /bump If it has a SAVE button...I'm not interested.


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