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Zhihatsu
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
25
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Posted - 2012.05.20 18:59:00 -
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Selinate wrote:Zhihatsu wrote:This part right here: Issler Dainze wrote:Unless players join together this summer like they did over CCPs plans to exploit players using microtranactions I can't imagine how most of us could enjoy this game in a year. Is where she encourages her alliance to unsub en masse to protest Goons and PL attacking her vulnerable low-sec POS. Tell me how this isn't Issler conspiring to sabotage CCPs income? She doesn't say how the players should come together.
Uh, yes she does.
Issler Dainze wrote:players join together this summer like they did over CCPs plans to exploit players using microtranactions
I'm pretty sure that players joined together to mass unsub. Number of calories in a cubic lightyear of ham http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=number+of+calories+in+a+cubic+lightyear+of+ham |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
812
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Posted - 2012.05.20 18:59:00 -
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Zhihatsu wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Zhihatsu wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:Unless players join together this summer like they did over CCPs plans to exploit players using microtranactions I can't imagine how most of us could enjoy this game in a year. Is where she encourages her alliance to unsub en masse to protest Goons and PL attacking her vulnerable low-sec POS. Tell me how this isn't Issler conspiring to sabotage CCPs income? Because many people will join the game after all the goons and capital fleet mercs in lowsec have been banned. But is that what she is trying to effect with this push for a mass unsub? A ban of a very large group of players who are playing entirely within the game rules? They're not playing the way she and the ~silent majority~ (always hard to hear those guys) want, isn't that enough?
A bunch of people unsub, then a bunch of people get banned, it's a winning combination. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |

Selinate
874
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Posted - 2012.05.20 19:00:00 -
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Zhihatsu wrote:Selinate wrote:Zhihatsu wrote:This part right here: Issler Dainze wrote:Unless players join together this summer like they did over CCPs plans to exploit players using microtranactions I can't imagine how most of us could enjoy this game in a year. Is where she encourages her alliance to unsub en masse to protest Goons and PL attacking her vulnerable low-sec POS. Tell me how this isn't Issler conspiring to sabotage CCPs income? She doesn't say how the players should come together. Uh, yes she does. Issler Dainze wrote:players join together this summer like they did over CCPs plans to exploit players using microtranactions I'm pretty sure that players joined together to mass unsub.
It speaks of players coming together, not how. |

Serge Bastana
GWA Corp Unified Church of the Unobligated
553
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Posted - 2012.05.20 19:02:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Zhihatsu wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Zhihatsu wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:Unless players join together this summer like they did over CCPs plans to exploit players using microtranactions I can't imagine how most of us could enjoy this game in a year. Is where she encourages her alliance to unsub en masse to protest Goons and PL attacking her vulnerable low-sec POS. Tell me how this isn't Issler conspiring to sabotage CCPs income? Because many people will join the game after all the goons and capital fleet mercs in lowsec have been banned. But is that what she is trying to effect with this push for a mass unsub? A ban of a very large group of players who are playing entirely within the game rules? They're not playing the way she and the ~silent majority~ (always hard to hear those guys) want, isn't that enough? A bunch of people unsub, then a bunch of people get banned, it's a winning combination.
Sounds really good for the game, just how a CSM member should be thinking. Ah, the proponents of the Butthurt AgendaGäó always have the big picture in mind don't they? WoW holds your hand until end game, and gives you a cookie whether you win or lose. EVE not only takes your cookie, but laughs at you for bringing one in the first place... |

Zhihatsu
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
25
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Posted - 2012.05.20 19:03:00 -
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Selinate wrote:Zhihatsu wrote:
She doesn't say how the players should come together.
Uh, yes she does. Issler Dainze wrote:players join together this summer like they did over CCPs plans to exploit players using microtranactions I'm pretty sure that players joined together to mass unsub.
It speaks of players coming together, not how.[/quote]
Issler Dainze wrote:like they did over CCPs plans to exploit players using microtranactions Number of calories in a cubic lightyear of ham http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=number+of+calories+in+a+cubic+lightyear+of+ham |

Selinate
874
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Posted - 2012.05.20 19:03:00 -
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Serge Bastana wrote:
Sounds really good for the game, just how a CSM member should be thinking. Ah, the proponents of the Butthurt AgendaGäó always have the big picture in mind don't they?
Only as long as the big picture includes a big butt that is hurt. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
812
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Posted - 2012.05.20 19:03:00 -
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Zhihatsu wrote:Selinate wrote:Zhihatsu wrote:
She doesn't say how the players should come together.
Uh, yes she does. Issler Dainze wrote:players join together this summer like they did over CCPs plans to exploit players using microtranactions I'm pretty sure that players joined together to mass unsub. It speaks of players coming together, not how. Issler Dainze wrote:like they did over CCPs plans to exploit players using microtranactions It's pointless.
Next they'll say that Issler actually meant only shooting a statue in Jita. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |

Selinate
874
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Posted - 2012.05.20 19:04:00 -
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Zhihatsu wrote:Selinate wrote:Zhihatsu wrote:
She doesn't say how the players should come together.
Uh, yes she does. Issler Dainze wrote:players join together this summer like they did over CCPs plans to exploit players using microtranactions I'm pretty sure that players joined together to mass unsub. It speaks of players coming together, not how.
Issler Dainze wrote:like they did over CCPs plans to exploit players using microtranactions [/quote]
Trying to infer something that isn't there. Nice try. Your butthurt. It shows. |

Zhihatsu
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
25
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Posted - 2012.05.20 19:05:00 -
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Selinate wrote:Serge Bastana wrote:
Sounds really good for the game, just how a CSM member should be thinking. Ah, the proponents of the Butthurt AgendaGäó always have the big picture in mind don't they?
Only as long as the big picture includes a big butt that is hurt.
I'm active enough that my butt doesn't get hurt.
~Cavernous Depths~ Number of calories in a cubic lightyear of ham http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=number+of+calories+in+a+cubic+lightyear+of+ham |

Selinate
877
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Posted - 2012.05.20 19:06:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote: Next they'll say that Issler actually meant only shooting a statue in Jita.
Maybe. Or maybe Issler simply meant for the players to act in some vague unified way against the goons and such. Could be either, both are plausible, however jumping to "SHE TOLD EVERYONE TO UNSUB" is.... well.... very butthurt-seeming. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
812
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Posted - 2012.05.20 19:06:00 -
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Zhihatsu wrote:Selinate wrote:Serge Bastana wrote:
Sounds really good for the game, just how a CSM member should be thinking. Ah, the proponents of the Butthurt AgendaGäó always have the big picture in mind don't they?
Only as long as the big picture includes a big butt that is hurt. I'm active enough that my butt doesn't get hurt. ~Cavernous Depths~ Butte tanking ~~ ELITE certificate. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |

Selinate
877
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Posted - 2012.05.20 19:06:00 -
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Zhihatsu wrote:Selinate wrote:Serge Bastana wrote:
Sounds really good for the game, just how a CSM member should be thinking. Ah, the proponents of the Butthurt AgendaGäó always have the big picture in mind don't they?
Only as long as the big picture includes a big butt that is hurt. I'm active enough that my butt doesn't get hurt. ~Cavernous Depths~
You've posted in this thread enough to prove exactly what it is and how it hurts. It is your butt and it hurts. |

Zhihatsu
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
26
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Posted - 2012.05.20 19:07:00 -
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Selinate wrote:Zhihatsu wrote:Selinate wrote:
It speaks of players coming together, not how.
Issler Dainze wrote:like they did over CCPs plans to exploit players using microtranactions Trying to infer something that isn't there. Nice try. Your butthurt. It shows.
I don't really see how that is inferring anything. The intent is right there. Number of calories in a cubic lightyear of ham http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=number+of+calories+in+a+cubic+lightyear+of+ham |

Selinate
877
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Posted - 2012.05.20 19:08:00 -
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Zhihatsu wrote:Selinate wrote:Zhihatsu wrote:Selinate wrote:
It speaks of players coming together, not how.
Issler Dainze wrote:like they did over CCPs plans to exploit players using microtranactions Trying to infer something that isn't there. Nice try. Your butthurt. It shows. I don't really see how that is inferring anything. The intent is right there.
You're reading an intent for Issler to unite high sec players, you are inferring an intent to get people to unsub over the problems. Intent is there. Intent to get people to unsub is not. |

Zhihatsu
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
26
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Posted - 2012.05.20 19:08:00 -
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Selinate wrote:Zhihatsu wrote:Selinate wrote:Serge Bastana wrote:
Sounds really good for the game, just how a CSM member should be thinking. Ah, the proponents of the Butthurt AgendaGäó always have the big picture in mind don't they?
Only as long as the big picture includes a big butt that is hurt. I'm active enough that my butt doesn't get hurt. ~Cavernous Depths~ You've posted in this thread enough to prove exactly what it is and how it hurts. It is your butt and it hurts.
I have the Elite Butt Tanking Certificate. Others may be butthurting, but I certainly am not.
Everyone is crying tears over everyone else's tears. Are there no original tears anymore? Number of calories in a cubic lightyear of ham http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=number+of+calories+in+a+cubic+lightyear+of+ham |

Selinate
877
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Posted - 2012.05.20 19:09:00 -
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Zhihatsu wrote:
I have the Elite Butt Tanking Certificate. Others may be butthurting, but I certainly am not.
Everyone is crying tears over everyone else's tears. Are there no original tears anymore?
goon tears best tears. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
812
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Posted - 2012.05.20 19:09:00 -
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Zhihatsu wrote:I have the Elite Butt Tanking Certificate. Others may be butthurting, but I certainly am not.
Everyone is crying tears over everyone else's tears. Are there no original tears anymore? Your fishing for tears is unsuccessful  Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |

Zhihatsu
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
26
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Posted - 2012.05.20 19:10:00 -
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Selinate wrote:
You're reading an intent for Issler to unite high sec players, you are inferring an intent to get people to unsub over the problems. Intent is there. Intent to get people to unsub is not.
Well, I'm sorry (no I'm not), you're wrong. Very very wrong. The words are there plain as day. If she didn't mean for people to join together like they did after Incarna (which the actions they used were to unsub), then why did she say it? Number of calories in a cubic lightyear of ham http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=number+of+calories+in+a+cubic+lightyear+of+ham |

Zhihatsu
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
26
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Posted - 2012.05.20 19:11:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Zhihatsu wrote:I have the Elite Butt Tanking Certificate. Others may be butthurting, but I certainly am not.
Everyone is crying tears over everyone else's tears. Are there no original tears anymore? Your fishing for tears is unsuccessful 
Do I need to get my tear fishing skill up to 450, and also have a +150 skill lure on my tear fishing pole before I can successfully fish for tears? Number of calories in a cubic lightyear of ham http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=number+of+calories+in+a+cubic+lightyear+of+ham |

Selinate
877
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Posted - 2012.05.20 19:12:00 -
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Zhihatsu wrote:Selinate wrote:
You're reading an intent for Issler to unite high sec players, you are inferring an intent to get people to unsub over the problems. Intent is there. Intent to get people to unsub is not.
Well, I'm sorry (no I'm not), you're wrong. Very very wrong. The words are there plain as day. If she didn't mean for people to join together like they did after Incarna (which the actions they used were to unsub), then why did she say it?
She said that she wanted to bring the players together in a unified force. She did not say what she wanted that unified force to do. It is simply not there. She said it because she does not like you and your friends, apparently. |

Selinate
887
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Posted - 2012.05.20 19:13:00 -
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Zhihatsu wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Zhihatsu wrote:I have the Elite Butt Tanking Certificate. Others may be butthurting, but I certainly am not.
Everyone is crying tears over everyone else's tears. Are there no original tears anymore? Your fishing for tears is unsuccessful  Do I need to get my tear fishing skill up to 450, and also have a +150 skill lure on my tear fishing pole before I can successfully fish for tears?
No, but you do need to spam in a thread endlessly about something your inferring and how you want that person kicked off the CSM for what you inferred that person was saying since you're still butthurt that your fearless leader got booted off not too long ago. |

Zhihatsu
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
26
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Posted - 2012.05.20 19:14:00 -
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Selinate wrote:Zhihatsu wrote:Selinate wrote:
You're reading an intent for Issler to unite high sec players, you are inferring an intent to get people to unsub over the problems. Intent is there. Intent to get people to unsub is not.
Well, I'm sorry (no I'm not), you're wrong. Very very wrong. The words are there plain as day. If she didn't mean for people to join together like they did after Incarna (which the actions they used were to unsub), then why did she say it? She said that she wanted to bring the players together in a unified force. She did not say what she wanted that unified force to do. It is simply not there. She said it because she does not like you and your friends, apparently.
If she didn't intend for a mass unsub, then why did she use the mass unsub after Incarna as an example?
By the way, it wasn't just high-sec dwellers that were mad after incarna, it was everyone.
The only real tears in this thread were quoted in the alliance mail quoted in the OP. Number of calories in a cubic lightyear of ham http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=number+of+calories+in+a+cubic+lightyear+of+ham |

Selinate
887
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Posted - 2012.05.20 19:16:00 -
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Zhihatsu wrote:
If she didn't intend for a mass unsub, then why did she use the mass unsub after Incarna as an example?
The players came together in more way than simply unsubbing after incarna. She didn't use the unsub itself as an example.
Quote: By the way, it wasn't just high-sec dwellers that were mad after incarna, it was everyone.
Irrelevant. She wants to unify players against goons.
Quote: The only real tears in this thread were quoted in the alliance mail quoted in the OP.
Well apparently you're still crying about it enough to post this much. |

RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
1558
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Posted - 2012.05.20 19:17:00 -
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Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
ask CCP
What was the reason for that 30 day ban? OH YEA breach of EULA lol
Keep trying
In what way is saying something in REAL LIFE, no matter how objectionable, a breach of a EULA that covers IN GAME speech and activities?
Really, point to the part of the EULA that covers out of game conduct.
EULA wrote: You may not submit any content to any chat room or other public forum within the Game that is harassing, abusive, threatening, harmful, obscene, libelous or defamatory, encourages conduct that could constitute a criminal offense or give rise to civil liabilities, or is unlawful in any other way, including without limitation the submission of content that infringes on a third-partyGÇÖs intellectual property rights.
Emphasis mine. Single-Shard, Player Driven-áSandbox.
5 words. That's what makes it special. |

Zhihatsu
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
26
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Posted - 2012.05.20 19:19:00 -
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Selinate wrote:Zhihatsu wrote:
If she didn't intend for a mass unsub, then why did she use the mass unsub after Incarna as an example?
The players came together in more way than simply unsubbing after incarna. She didn't use the unsub itself as an example. Quote: By the way, it wasn't just high-sec dwellers that were mad after incarna, it was everyone.
Irrelevant. She wants to unify players against goons. Quote: The only real tears in this thread were quoted in the alliance mail quoted in the OP.
Well apparently you're still crying about it enough to post this much.
So posting automatically means I'm shedding tears?
If she wants to unify the players against the goons then i wish her luck, but considering the fact that corps are leaving her alliance like rats from a sinking ship, I think she's going to have a hard time organizing that.
And as for her platform for getting elected to the CSM, I wish her luck in effecting that change when she turned her back on her colleagues. Number of calories in a cubic lightyear of ham http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=number+of+calories+in+a+cubic+lightyear+of+ham |

Zhihatsu
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
26
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Posted - 2012.05.20 19:19:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
ask CCP
What was the reason for that 30 day ban? OH YEA breach of EULA lol
Keep trying
In what way is saying something in REAL LIFE, no matter how objectionable, a breach of a EULA that covers IN GAME speech and activities? Really, point to the part of the EULA that covers out of game conduct. EULA wrote: You may not submit any content to any chat room or other public forum within the Game that is harassing, abusive, threatening, harmful, obscene, libelous or defamatory, encourages conduct that could constitute a criminal offense or give rise to civil liabilities, or is unlawful in any other way, including without limitation the submission of content that infringes on a third-partyGÇÖs intellectual property rights.
Emphasis mine.
Well hey, look at that. That EULA quote sure is something isn't it? Number of calories in a cubic lightyear of ham http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=number+of+calories+in+a+cubic+lightyear+of+ham |

Selinate
887
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Posted - 2012.05.20 19:20:00 -
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Zhihatsu wrote:
So posting automatically means I'm shedding tears?
If she wants to unify the players against the goons then i wish her luck, but considering the fact that corps are leaving her alliance like rats from a sinking ship, I think she's going to have a hard time organizing that.
And as for her platform for getting elected to the CSM, I wish her luck in effecting that change when she turned her back on her colleagues.
Posting in a whiny manner means you're shedding tears. Just like you and your cohorts are doing in this thread.
I don't particularly care whether or not she gets back on the CSM, whether she succeeds, or what have you. But the butthurt is present in this thread. This is what I care about. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
812
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Posted - 2012.05.20 19:20:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
ask CCP
What was the reason for that 30 day ban? OH YEA breach of EULA lol
Keep trying
In what way is saying something in REAL LIFE, no matter how objectionable, a breach of a EULA that covers IN GAME speech and activities? Really, point to the part of the EULA that covers out of game conduct. EULA wrote: You may not submit any content to any chat room or other public forum within the Game that is harassing, abusive, threatening, harmful, obscene, libelous or defamatory, encourages conduct that could constitute a criminal offense or give rise to civil liabilities, or is unlawful in any other way, including without limitation the submission of content that infringes on a third-partyGÇÖs intellectual property rights.
Emphasis mine. Oh ho, speaking of it having to be in game ~~ Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
812
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Posted - 2012.05.20 19:21:00 -
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Zhihatsu wrote:If she wants to unify the players against the goons then i wish her luck, but considering the fact that corps are leaving her alliance like rats from a sinking ship, I think she's going to have a hard time organizing that.
And as for her platform for getting elected to the CSM, I wish her luck in effecting that change when she turned her back on her colleagues. Luv2FailCascade.
It means we're winning via the NPC Corp method Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |

Sepherina Neuburg
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.05.20 19:30:00 -
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If the Goons didn't exist, it would be necessary to invent them.
Not so sure the same could be said for this thread. |
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