What a drama queen.

So I've seen 4-5 people in this thread who are unsubbing because their passive income is getting nerfed.

Till now.


Anyway. MIND BLOWN.

The ease with which they ALL blew off the horribad thing that is the new Inventory Window...........saying it's great without even a how or why. Stunning.

I guess our Elected Ones don't care what the longest running thread ever on the Test Server Forums (maybe one about Incara excepted) has to say. The change is just MAGICALLY great.

If it did not sound so Tinfoil Hat, I could almost suggest payoff (who'd know in ISK?).


Tuesday will be either (1) Massive Unsubs from Proverbial Straws (who won't do the following because they are beyond caring at this point), (2) Monument Shooting, or (3) Both.

Oh, believe me, Girlfriend, I'll stick my nose in here in August or something and see how the smoking ruins are doing.

Guess what? I'm unsubbing too. You want me to stop posting about it? I don't give a rat's turd what you want. I have a paid sub left that I'm not playing on. My sole amusement for the money I spent is to post about leaving. OP is fine with me.

A CSM with Mittens would be a worse CSM.

Actually, I count 2 including myself.

I am bad at math.

As I have posted elsewhere, people are not unsubbing over some trivial loss in income (and it is not passive, regardless of how much you and your kind say it is).

People are unsubbing because this is the proverbial straw.

This is just the current, but by no means the last, attack on high sec by the null sec zealots within CCP and in-game.
It is part of a co-ordinated campaign led by the ex-goon (no way of telling if he is STILL a goon) lead developer, the CSM, goons, and other null sec powerblocs bent on wiping out high sec economic profitability.

It appears a number of people are saying "enough", and trying to make CCP hear through unsubbing, because high sec players are drowned out on the forums by the shear volume of garbage and noise pumped out by the null sec zealot propagandists.

We've had three CONCORD buffs, at least two security status loss/gain nerfs (one has recently been reversed, I think?), a massive empire war nerf, the legalization of decshield, the removal of insurance for losses to CONCORD, an upcoming massive nerf to empire wars, with its own built-in decshield, and plans in the pipe to completely destroy can theft and ninja looting. Most of these happened post-Apocrypha, and this is just an off the top of my head list.

In other words, why do you think High-sec deserves all the safety nets they've been given over the last couple of years and still have 33 billion isk mission running ships be a common sight?

If you want to have your income, then maybe you should also petition CCP to slow down CONCORDs response time? How about making it impossible to avoid an unwanted wardec? How about letting suicide gankers have their insurance back?

You can't have both.

Oh no you can't say that. They CAN have both, as you see they are reaching for.

There's got to be a killmail behind that 33 billion isk mission running ship though, and I'd love to see it.

What about all the huge buffs that highsec has gotten in terms of safety? From another thread:



As CCP h as been saying from the start, this game is about Risk vs Reward. You've had all these buffs to safety, all these buffs to reduce the risk in Highsec. Don't you think the trade off is going to be a reduction in high-sec income?

In other words, why do you think High-sec deserves all the safety nets they've been given over the last couple of years and still have 33 billion isk mission running ships be a common sight?

If you want to have your income, then maybe you should also petition CCP to slow down CONCORDs response time? How about making it impossible to avoid an unwanted wardec? How about letting suicide gankers have their insurance back?

You can't have both.

Right, sure.
It is pointless to discuss this with one who is so willfully ignorant of the facts.
As for a 33 billion ISK ratting ship...LOL.

http://www.evenews24.com/2012/04/07/33b-vindicator/

My my, why not just dualbox saner ships ...

A CSM with no Mittens is a sad CSM.

Seems a lot of folk are just mad as HiSec (Industrialist/PvE) types for having a lot of ISK.

Maybe if you actually saved some of your ISK you could have nice things too.
Or maybe some ISK management skills would help you ... but probably not.

Because high sec mission runners would rather have a lambo with spinnaz and 60" LED TVs underneath the car than drive an unpimped Corvette.

Seems a lot of folk are just mad as HiSec (Industrialist/PvE) types for having a lot of ISK.

Maybe if you actually saved some of your ISK you could have nice things too.
Or maybe some ISK management skills would help you ... but probably not.

It's not that we couldn't afford something crazy like that, but see, when you're in nullsec you have to plan to be ganked, so you don't fully officer/deadspace fit your 6 billion isk ship for ratting or missioning.

The only reason this highsec mission runner fit his ship so expensively is because he had no fear of losing it.

It's not that we couldn't afford something crazy like that, but see, when you're in nullsec you have to plan to be ganked, so you don't fully officer/deadspace fit your 6 billion isk ship for ratting or missioning.

The only reason this highsec mission runner fit his ship so expensively is because he had no fear of losing it.

Well, that's his fricken mistake and was obviously proved wrong.
And, so what if a pilot wants to fly that ... obviously gave some folks wood to pop it.

But the continued visceral hatred of all HiSec'ers seems a little over the top.

Who said hate? We only think that if highsec wants to be safer, then it should have a comparable income.

That IS hate speech.

Am I guilty of a hate crime now? Hate crimes against highsec crybabies.

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Redonkulous fits like that Vindi are fairly common in highsec, enough so that you really won't see them anywhere else. High-sec citizens shouldn't be able to afford that, not without actual significant risk, not just risk from the odd gank or wardec.

Well, here is where I believe you and I differ.

You say that HiSec folk "shouldn't be able to afford that, not without actual significant risk"
I contend HiSec folk "shouldn't be able to afford that, not without actual significant effort"

I would clarify that by saying that any Eve player anywhere in Eve should be able to afford anything with the proper effort.
The risk of ownership it comes with undocking. And, if I read you right, you do not believe the odd gank is sufficient risk?

Not trying to put words in your mouth but, I don't think you are advocating not allowing a player to purchase what they can afford?