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sting122
The Maverick Navy
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.09 03:02:00 -
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Vaneshi SnowCrash
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Posted - 2009.12.10 19:17:00 -
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Destroyers might as well not exist other than for their ability to tug 4 tractor beams and 4 salvagers along to the person beginning mission running.
In PvP I see very few T1 hulls being used to sc**** the likes of me off the bigger ships or scraping oiks off of me when flying something bigger.
I fully support some panel beating of the destroyer class of hulls.
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Seth Ruin
Ominous Corp
Cult of War
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Posted - 2009.12.11 00:20:00 -
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Destroyers need some serious lovin'. The most under-used ship class in the game, and with good reason.
TBH, I don't think I've ever seen a destroyer out in nullsec...  (Well, besides salvage ships)
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Korvin
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Posted - 2009.12.11 00:49:00 -
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destroyers needs some love.
atleast less signature, so they can do their role in fleet.
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Millie Clode
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.12.11 01:27:00 -
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I used to adore destroyers until I got my first AF.
Mainly because I'm fairly well specced in Amarr and the coercer can't point its target and dictate range at the same time due to lack of midslots.
Retribution is much more fun to fly
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procurious2
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Posted - 2009.12.16 01:13:00 -
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Edited by: procurious2 on 16/12/2009 01:15:05
how bout adding another slot for missels or rockets?
and please upgrade the pg a little anyway
 Originally by: SubLepton
Edited by: SubLepton on 28/06/2009 22:28:01
Slots:
This is the final part of the proposal, and i do not view it as necessary, and not everybody agrees on this, but I think that this would be the final touch in making destroyers worthwhile ships.
All battlecruisers have more slots then ANY cruiser in game, this enables them to tank additional damage they receive due to larger signature radius. Then why do destroyers receive LESS slots then there frigate counterparts? Let's have a look at tristan, we have 3 low and 3 med. slots, a total of 6 slots. All destroyers have 5 slots. I believe every destroyer deserves an extra slot.
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Nemo Spades
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Posted - 2009.12.19 00:17:00 -
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Voddick
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Posted - 2009.12.22 07:46:00 -
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Edited by: Vod**** on 22/12/2009 07:46:45
Fully support Destroyer love.
Lower sig, more tank, another tank slot.
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Awesome Possum
Imperium Signal Corps
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Posted - 2009.12.22 14:18:00 -
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destroyers should have a minimum of 2 med/low slots. coercer and cormorant get boned.... well no, just coercer gets boned. cormy can fit ab/point/web. coercer can fit...
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Faraelle Brightman
Moira.
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Posted - 2009.12.22 17:26:00 -
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Edited by: Faraelle Brightman on 22/12/2009 17:27:12
Support on principle, debatable as to specifics. Dropping the ROF penalty may or may not stick them in the overpowered category, sig radius and grid improvements are desirable.
TeaDaze, you're in Agony - the ones with the excellent dessie Woflpacks class - would be interesting to see your input here.
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Neu Bastian
Minmatar
Valklear Guard
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Posted - 2009.12.22 21:35:00 -
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Thrasher is amazing, leave it alone.
Catalyst could use some extra CPU and something other than the falloff bonus, Cormorant could use a bit extra PG or a new low slot. Coercer could use a med but its pretty good as it is too.
These are alpha ships tho, 25% RoF penalty is fine.
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Valklear Guard - CEO
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Everseeker
Immortalis Silens
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Posted - 2010.01.08 21:44:00 -
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Edited by: Everseeker on 08/01/2010 21:46:16
While there can be arguments made about the EXACT form of change, let's face it, CCP will take the subject, listen with half an ear to the rest, and proceed...
So, Heck yes... THE DESTROYERS need to DESTROY, not simply Annoy. To that end, they should be Glass CANNONS, not Glass Slingshots..
CCP, make it so... How you do it?... Surprise us 
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Tuvar Hiede
Snuggle Muffins
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Posted - 2010.01.08 23:40:00 -
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Starfinder Smith
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Posted - 2010.01.09 02:27:00 -
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I agree. I only use my Cormy as a salvage boat. It is just a (slow)moving target otherwise
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Pesets
The Hunt Club
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Posted - 2010.01.10 03:15:00 -
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Edited by: Pesets on 10/01/2010 03:25:16
Agreed about removing rof penalty and decreasing sig (and maybe mass) a bit; maybe extra 5% to fitting.
As for slots and bonuses, leave them alone and learn to figure out the ships' purposes. Destroyers are, for the most part, pack animals and not solopwnmobiles. Cata's bonus to optimal works just as fine as falloff bonus for blasters - because optimal is half their range - and gives it flexibility to fit rails (but of course not compete with Cormorant in that). Corm's tracking bonus makes sure it will hit the target not only at max range, but also as it's spiraling towards you (and with -75% tracking penalty on Spike, you need that extra tracking). Replacing tracking bonus with damage bonus won't help at all - you still won't alpha anything solo, and if you're a sniper you won't point anything either. Also, without tracking bonus, you're taking away its flexibility to be anything except the long-range sniper. If you need more grid - use rigs, they're cheap now. If you need even more grid - train Advanced Weapon Upgrades (you should have it anyway tbh).
Interdictors could possibly use some looking into - though on the other hand, they will likely be fine once rockets are fixed. They could share the sig radius decrease with destroyers though, if that comes through.
Overall, not supported in proposed form.
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Rakamy
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Posted - 2010.01.10 07:56:00 -
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Edited by: Rakamy on 10/01/2010 07:55:40
I fully support this idea, but let's not over look the techII versions as well....more specifically the Eris
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Saelyre
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Posted - 2010.01.31 11:01:00 -
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Soon Shin
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Posted - 2010.03.08 04:34:00 -
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Edited by: Soon Shin on 08/03/2010 04:37:32
That's Right CCP fix our goddamn DESTROYERS!!!
Stop working on a useless expansion like Tyrannis and fix the problems of this game!
Sound, Rockets, Hybrids, Black Ops, Drones, and Destroyers!!
My Destroyer should actually be able to DESTROY T1 Frigates, not be DESTROYED by them!
They are only used to SALVAGE? and LULZ Suicide GANK!
You may gain new players, but you will lose your original player base if you don't listen to them.
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ISellThingz
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Posted - 2010.03.08 13:18:00 -
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Supporting. I'd love to fly destroyers more without being just a free killmail.
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Miyamoto Isoruku
The Phoenix Enclave
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Posted - 2010.03.08 22:11:00 -
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Support, a thousand times over. Although for the record, there ARE good cormorant fits out there.
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Tagami Wasp
Sarz'na Khumatari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.09 00:40:00 -
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+15% to railguns' dmg modifier
-reduce Spike optimal bonus to 70%
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galphi
Sileo In Pacis
THE SPACE P0LICE
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Posted - 2010.06.02 01:07:00 -
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Loved this discussion, so many good ideas for improvements. CCP, you have no excuse to delay these fixes past the next expansion!
The only thing I'd add is that warp speed should be increased to 4.5 au/sec, and that the coercer definitely needs a second midslot - if all the other destroyers get more than one midslot, they can be used for solo pvp (propulsion + point), if coercer is left at 1 it'll only be useful as an escort or a pve ship, regardless of other changes.
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commander mordecai
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Posted - 2010.06.02 10:40:00 -
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supported
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James Tritanius
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Posted - 2010.06.02 15:09:00 -
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No, the changes will make destroyers overpowered and make assault frigates obsolete. I can't believe anyone is supporting this.
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JurassicDragon
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Posted - 2010.06.02 19:22:00 -
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supported
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Caldron Forge
Quantum Forge Partners
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Posted - 2010.06.04 02:50:00 -
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Supported!
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Zarnak Wulf
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Posted - 2010.06.04 03:29:00 -
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More EHP. They should be tougher then AF. AF have up to 9-10k EHP. Let's get some dessies up to 15k EHP for a tanked fit. Cut some turrets AND the ROF penalty. The goal is to keep the DPS the same. Add those missing turrets back in as mid or low slots.
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Cpt Branko
Retired Pirate Club
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Posted - 2010.06.04 09:23:00 -
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Originally by: Zarnak Wulf
More EHP. They should be tougher then AF. AF have up to 9-10k EHP. Let's get some dessies up to 15k EHP for a tanked fit. Cut some turrets AND the ROF penalty. The goal is to keep the DPS the same. Add those missing turrets back in as mid or low slots.
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Ambaseter Doggy
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Posted - 2010.06.04 20:18:00 -
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Originally by: James Tritanius
No, the changes will make destroyers overpowered and make assault frigates obsolete. I can't believe anyone is supporting this.
 Destroyers are SUPPOSE to kill AF and frigs. they are ANTI frig boats. also i think af already have more ehp then a dessie.
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Hrin
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.06.04 21:13:00 -
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I think the best change would be the extra low/mid slot, but in general I support the other changes as well.
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