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Siigari Kitawa Gallente The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2009.06.29 18:31:00 - [1] Edited by: Siigari Kitawa on 29/06/2009 18:32:26 I have been grinding my head over this for days, and I finally got it working thanks to a bit of help from Nyphur and me whacking my head over dozens of CPU issues. [Myrmidon, The Impossible Myrmidon Pie] Damage Control II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Reinforced Bulkheads II Reinforced Bulkheads II Reinforced Bulkheads II Reinforced Bulkheads II Small Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 200 Balmer Series Targeting Inhibitor I, Tracking Speed Disruption 10MN MicroWarpdrive I 'Langour' Drive Disruptor I Faint Warp Disruptor I Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Hybrid Collision Accelerator I Algid Hybrid Administrations Unit I Algid Hybrid Administrations Unit I Ogre II x2 Hammerhead II x2 Hobgoblin II x1 Ogre II x2 Hobgoblin II x2 Hammerhead II x1 www.siigarikitawa.com ò www.quafeultra.com ò Buy a GTC
rodensteiner	Posted - 2009.06.29 19:14:00 - [2] Edited by: rodensteiner on 29/06/2009 19:15:01 Looks like a Brutix fit, actually. Got any numbers for us? edit I'd fly it
Jinnett Steele	Posted - 2009.06.29 19:19:00 - [3] good fit imo
Furb Killer Gallente	Posted - 2009.06.29 19:31:00 - [4] This is the fitting you were looking for: [Brutix, Shield neutron] Damage Control II Reactor Control Unit II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II 10MN MicroWarpdrive I Invulnerability Field II Large Shield Extender II Warp Scrambler II Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] Hammerhead II x5 Compared (all all lvl V eft, but yours need implant): Brutix - myrm 43k EHP - 50k EHP 860 dps - 703 dps 965 dps - 762 dps (overloaded, yes you can get 1000 dps with brutix with better ammo) Yes your myrm has more tackle and ewar also, brutix is faster, and half the price tag (use shield resistance rigs if it makes you feel warm and cozy). And additionally it has the lol-brutix factor.
Nocturnal Avenger x13	Posted - 2009.06.29 19:33:00 - [5] Originally by: Siigari Kitawa Edited by: Siigari Kitawa on 29/06/2009 18:32:26 I have been grinding my head over this for days, and I finally got it working thanks to a bit of help from Nyphur and me whacking my head over dozens of CPU issues. [Myrmidon, The Impossible Myrmidon Pie] Purpose ? - Carebear Pirate -
rodensteiner	Posted - 2009.06.29 19:35:00 - [6] Originally by: Nocturnal Avenger Originally by: Siigari Kitawa Edited by: Siigari Kitawa on 29/06/2009 18:32:26 I have been grinding my head over this for days, and I finally got it working thanks to a bit of help from Nyphur and me whacking my head over dozens of CPU issues. [Myrmidon, The Impossible Myrmidon Pie] Purpose ? "Hahaha LOLfit Myrm is going down HARD! Ohwtfhull?"
Commander Yassir Perkone	Posted - 2009.06.29 19:48:00 - [7] Wait what? Are those Large guns? I like it, and yea, I'd fly it. ~ The man who smiles when things go wrong has thought of someone to blame it on.
Davinel Lulinvega	Posted - 2009.06.29 19:50:00 - [8] Originally by: Commander Yassir Wait what? Are those Large guns? I like it, and yea, I'd fly it. No. Originally by: CCP Tuxford Now the op looks like a weirdo that can't read kekekeke! inb4 stealth edit
Tranquil Vengence	Posted - 2009.06.29 19:53:00 - [9] Originally by: Commander Yassir Wait what? Are those Large guns? I like it, and yea, I'd fly it. Medium ammo..... yes, they're large turrets. In fact this fit can go into siege mode as well, you should see this sucker rip.
Siigari Kitawa Gallente The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2009.06.29 21:23:00 - [10] Posted numbers. Note that using a Hybrid Burst Aerator II, you get a whopping 40 DPS more... which is significantly impressive for only 70 mil. Not probably the best way to go, but great if you're going to hull tank anyway ;) www.siigarikitawa.com ò www.quafeultra.com ò Buy a GTC
Sera Ryskin	Posted - 2009.06.29 22:51:00 - [11] Edited by: Sera Ryskin on 29/06/2009 22:54:27 Originally by: Siigari Kitawa Note that using a Hybrid Burst Aerator II, you get a whopping 40 DPS more... which is significantly impressive for only 70 mil. Once again demonstrating why you need to stop buying GTCs as a substitute for skill. Only you would think that spending 70 mil on one rig for a *T1 battlecruiser* (typical price, fully fitted: 50 mil) is anything other than painfully stupid. edit: especially when you can't even bother spending a tiny fraction of that price on getting a best-named web. Hell, the T1 rigs are more expensive than that web. PS: your entire idea is almost as bad. The shield buffer fit posted earlier is far, far better, but the Myrmidon is still a pretty poor ship. ========== Merin is currently enjoying a 14 day vacation from the forums. Until she returns, you've got me to entertain you!
Iria Ahrens Amarr 101st Space Marine Force Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2009.06.29 23:00:00 - [12] err, so I echo, Purpose? Hull tanking myrm. Eft bragging rights? and all those x2 drones. Wtf? A flight of mediums > 2 ogres. Flight of smalls > 2 mediums. -- Nobody expects the Amarr Inquisition!
Guillame Herschel Gallente Buffalo Soldiers	Posted - 2009.06.29 23:05:00 - [13] Originally by: Siigari Kitawa Posted numbers. Note that using a Hybrid Burst Aerator II, you get a whopping 40 DPS more... which is significantly impressive for only 70 mil. You'd get significantly more than +40 DPS if you spent that 70 mil on a pair of faction MagStabs. You'd get even more DPS and range by dropping the blasters and fitting T2 Pulse with Scorch. Unbonused Lasers really are that much better than a T2 hybrid rig with unbonused blasters. *-- The Theorem Theorem: If If, Then Then* --**
Siigari Kitawa Gallente The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2009.06.29 23:57:00 - [14] Edited by: Siigari Kitawa on 29/06/2009 23:56:55 Sometimes thinking in unique ways improves the mind. Why? Because it's fun and different. And I think it shows hope. I've used it once to beat the snot out of a Harbinger and I'm pretty sure it'd stand a chance against any respectable battleship as well. Don't knock it unless you've tried it :P ninja edit: I can EFT all day, but I actually fly this :P www.siigarikitawa.com ò www.quafeultra.com ò Buy a GTC
Psiri	Posted - 2009.06.30 00:14:00 - [15] Dear lord what an awful fit. ... and no, any respectable battleship would drop that thing without much effort at all.
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2009.06.30 00:53:00 - [16] and merin's fit with neutrons [Myrmidon, Shield buffer] Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Power Diagnostic System II Inertia Stabilizers II Damage Control II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Large Shield Extender II Balmer Series Targeting Inhibitor I Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Warp Disruptor II Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I Ogre II x2 Hammerhead II x2 Hobgoblin II x1 ya know what else looses up the mind, alchohol! drink enough and wake up with a fourm suspension
Commander Yassir Perkone	Posted - 2009.06.30 00:57:00 - [17] Edited by: Commander Yassir on 30/06/2009 01:03:55 Edited by: Commander Yassir on 30/06/2009 00:57:42 Originally by: Tranquil Vengence Originally by: Commander Yassir Wait what? Are those Large guns? I like it, and yea, I'd fly it. Medium ammo..... yes, they're large turrets. In fact this fit can go into siege mode as well, you should see this sucker rip. Ahh... Being sleep deprived and posting sucks.... Edit: It probably shows that I went into EFT after I read this to see if I could cram a dread sized gun onto a battleship, just to say I did... Second Edit: HA! [Myrmidon, Large Guns] Reactor Control Unit II Reactor Control Unit II Reactor Control Unit II Reactor Control Unit II Reactor Control Unit II Reactor Control Unit II Large Shield Extender II Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Stasis Webifier II Faint Warp Disruptor I Large Shield Extender II Anode Mega Electron Particle Cannon I, Antimatter Charge L Anode Mega Electron Particle Cannon I, Antimatter Charge L Anode Mega Electron Particle Cannon I, Antimatter Charge L Medium 'Knave' I Energy Drain Medium 'Gremlin' Power Core Disruptor I Small Energy Neutralizer II Ancillary Current Router I Ancillary Current Router I Ancillary Current Router I Ogre II x2 Hammerhead II x2 Hobgoblin II x1 ~ The man who smiles when things go wrong has thought of someone to blame it on.
Psiri	Posted - 2009.06.30 01:08:00 - [18] Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton and merin's fit with neutrons Hey, you guys still throwing away needlessly expensive fits at EVE University? If you still are, you should try that fit, seems like a good addition to the previous contributions.
Nyphur Pillowsoft Total Comfort	Posted - 2009.06.30 02:33:00 - [19] It's easy to make fun of a hull tanked ship and there are definitely standard myrm fits that are very effective but I found this fitting quite interesting for a few reasons. The big deal is that it has 50k EHP without sacrificing mid slots, damage, signature radius or a lot of isk. There's also an interesting surprise factor in having 32k EHP in your hull. In a typical small skirmish, think about the physchology of your enemy when they come up against that. Nobody's going to break off an attack when you are almost into hull, even if you're doing a lot of damage. When your shield and armour fold up relatively quickly, they'll expect you're in a complete gank fit and that once they hit your hull you're essentially dead. If it's used cleverly, a hull tanked gank ship might actually prove both effective and cost-effective. The shield tanked version posted earlier actually does slightly more DPS and is faster but it costs a LOT more, uses up a mid slot and has poorer EHP. Using the same mids as siigari's original fit, a technically better version is a simple armour tanked one: [Myrmidon, siigari copy 2] Damage Control II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II 800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Small Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 200 Balmer Series Targeting Inhibitor I, Tracking Speed Disruption 10MN MicroWarpdrive I 'Langour' Drive Disruptor I Faint Warp Disruptor I Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I Ogre II x2 Hammerhead II x2 Hobgoblin II x1 Note that while this gets 55k EHP (38k of which is in armour) and increased DPS over siigari's hull fit, trimarks are very expensive compared to hybrid rigs. The hull tanked one will be better if you plan to lose a bunch of them. In that case, tech 2 rigs definitely aren't worth it. Also not sure you'd need the cap injector, you can easily drop it for another web or even another tracking disruptor if you swap the T2 damage control for best named and use a -3% turret CPU implant in slot 10. Alternatively, if you can live with having a short range scrambler, you can swap the injector for a sensor booster, drop the two algid rigs and fit a damage rig to gain that extra 40 DPS back. Of course this all means squat if it doesn't perform well in actual PvP. Would be an interesting ship to try out, let me know how it performs. EVE-Tanking.com - Helping you keep your hull in-tact.
Wannabehero Absolutely No Retreat	Posted - 2009.06.30 03:26:00 - [20] While amusing, I think due to your sluggish speed I would have to recommend Pulses over the blasters -- Don't harsh my mellow
Omarvelous Destry's Lounge Important Internet Spaceship League	Posted - 2009.06.30 03:45:00 - [21] Allow me to introduce a competing Hull tanked Myrm: Damage Control II Gyrostab II 4x Reinforced Bulkhead II 10MN MWD I Warp Disruptor II Faint Epsilion Scram Langour Web Or different ewar like tracking disruptor Medium Cap Injector II Or different ewar like tracking disruptor 6x 425mm AC II 2x Projectile Ambit rigs 1x Projectile Burst rig 2x Ogre II 2x Hammerhead II 1x Hobgoblin II 591 dps -> 633 overheated @ 1.5 + 13km Same tank Much wider engagement range, which is crucial because you're going 813 m/s. EMP does em/kin/exp and drones do thermal a nice omni attack. Capless attack - the cap injector essentially lets you keep the tackle when you're neuted, if that's not too much of a concern then you can add some ewar like tracking disruptors, or sensor boosters. What do you think? Important Internet Spaceship League Wants You
Lexa Hellfury The Vainglorious	Posted - 2009.06.30 03:50:00 - [22] Originally by: Iria Ahrens and all those x2 drones. Wtf? A flight of mediums > 2 ogres. Flight of smalls > 2 mediums. You're an idiot. Originally by: RedSplat The Forum moderation Software known as Mitnal became self aware. CCP had no choice but to shut it down.
Wannabehero Absolutely No Retreat	Posted - 2009.06.30 03:59:00 - [23] Edited by: Wannabehero on 30/06/2009 03:59:01 Originally by: Omarvelous What do you think? I'm thinking Barrage Or pulses and Scorch. Seriously, 813m/s. -- Don't harsh my mellow
Kazang Gallente Wrecking Shots	Posted - 2009.06.30 08:39:00 - [24] Hull tanking a myrmidon is *****ed, brutix yeah sure go for it, but myrmidon? No. Wrong ship for that i'm afraid. As a lol bait it would be ok but still pretty poor. And a bait myrm looks like this: [Myrmidon, 2x 1600] Damage Control II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Medium Armor Repairer II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II 10MN Afterburner II Warp Disruptor II Warp Scrambler II X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800 Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I Ogre II x2 Hammerhead II x2 Hobgoblin II x1 Guns to taste, i like mixing up few random types for the "oh this guy is so fail he's mixing guns" effect. But stats with all V are 545 dps 95k ehp 150 dps active tanked Just use a brutix for face melting [Brutix, Shield buffer] Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Damage Control II Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Warp Scrambler II Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Hammerhead II x5 50k ehp 900 dps....... etc Kazang*
Allahs Warrior Gallente Brotherhood of Suicidal Priests	Posted - 2009.06.30 10:19:00 - [25] I see you're fitting blasters on your slow-as-hell myrm Clearly a good idea
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2009.06.30 11:01:00 - [26] Originally by: Psiri Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton and merin's fit with neutrons Hey, you guys still throwing away needlessly expensive fits at EVE University? If you still are, you should try that fit, seems like a good addition to the previous contributions. I told them exactly why they shouldn't wardec eve uni, but does anyone listen to me... and not a chance I would fly a ship like that into battle against eve uni, mostly for the reasons I said not to wardec eve uni. isn't rule number 1 of flying a blaster ship thou shall not fly a blastership into the middle of a blob full of ecm? although the only trick idle seems to have figured out is warp in with a smartbomb ship.... yea that works great, throw a way a trimark'd ship for 5 frigs and pods.
Myra2007 Shafrak Industries	Posted - 2009.06.30 11:13:00 - [27] I am pretty confident that a proper armor tanked myr will beat your setup in virtually every aspect from dps over buffer to speed. There is also nothing "out of the box" or gasp "unique" about it. Good players have already considered it (and hull tanks in general) but found that both shield and armor tanked versions are better by far. I can also cram 200mm plates on my maelstrom and claim to be unique. That wouldn't make it any less stupid/noobish. Usually if people have stupid ideas i just give them better advice without actually pointing out how stupid they are. But as always your trolling/bragging worked on me and i couldn't resist... arrrg curse you -- Originally by: Jasper Dark I agree! Lets go back into caves and lick rocks!
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2009.06.30 11:17:00 - [28] Originally by: Nyphur The shield tanked version posted earlier actually does slightly more DPS and is faster but it costs a LOT more, uses up a mid slot and has poorer EHP. Using the same mids as siigari's original fit, a technically better version is a simple armour tanked one: according to my eft, the hull tanked is the cheapest at 110 mil, the shield tanked 128mil, and your armor tank is 143mil. the shield tank hardly a LOT more then the hull tanked version. each one has a different role, honestly I'd probably fly the armor tanked one most of the time. but the shield one, without the td and with an invlun II, would be best if you have a scimitar around. and for various roaming ops, the agility comes in handy. not only is it faster but reaches speed faster.
Nyphur Pillowsoft Total Comfort	Posted - 2009.06.30 12:47:00 - [29] Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton according to my eft, the hull tanked is the cheapest at 110 mil, the shield tanked 128mil, and your armor tank is 143mil. the shield tank hardly a LOT more then the hull tanked version. True, it's only about 15m more expensive in rigs for the shield and 30m more expensive for the armoured version. But I think you're overstating the cost of the ship and mods significantly. Myrmidon's cost about 35m and the modules can't be over 20m total. After accounting for insurance, the cost of losing an unfitted and insured 35m myrmidon is about 7m, so saving 15 to 30m on rigs does make sense. They do all have different roles to play in PVP. A shield tanked fit might be nice for a roaming gang, the armoured one is pretty standard and the hull tanked one is unexpected and can have a predictable psychological effect on the enemy. I'd have to agree with the earlier sentiments in the thread though that the Brutix tends to outclass the Myrm in all practical senses. You can get roughly the same EHP and more DPS out of a brutix while being faster and without mixing drone sizes. Even a standard plated brutix with no rigs or hybrid rigs does about the same and I know from experience they're very effective in PVP. When it had its drones nerfed instead of its turrets, the Myrmidon just became an expensive brutix. EVE-Tanking.com - Helping you keep your hull in-tact.
Essence Praetor Retribution. Inc.	Posted - 2009.06.30 14:24:00 - [30] If you don't plate it you can get 1000 m/s out of one. 637 DPS (without over heat) 433 active tank. 13 min of cap when the MWD is not active. And no I don't post fits on an open forum. This is just FWI for all those hull tankers out there.
Davinel Lulinvega	Posted - 2009.06.30 14:28:00 - [31] Originally by: Essence Praetor If you don't plate it you can get 1000 m/s out of one. 637 DPS (without over heat) 433 active tank. 13 min of cap when the MWD is not active. And no I don't post fits on an open forum. This is just FWI for all those hull tankers out there. Your fits are so amazingly innovative. I wish I could be as far outside the box as you. Please post your fits so us unwashed heathens can bask in their glory. Originally by: CCP Tuxford Now the op looks like a weirdo that can't read kekekeke! inb4 stealth edit
Psiri	Posted - 2009.06.30 15:23:00 - [32] Edited by: Psiri on 30/06/2009 15:23:28 Here's something I've been meaning to try, [Myrmidon, PvP 2xMAR TD Blasters] Medium Armor Repairer II Medium Armor Repairer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Damage Control II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator Warp Scrambler II Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 Tracking Disruptor II, Optimal Range Disruption Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M / Null M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M / Null M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M / Null M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M / Null M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M / Null M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M / Null M I just prefer utilizing a ship's bonuses, the shield buffer fit is just too expensive and I prefer having a cap injector and web. The 280+ DPS tank isn't too shabby either, especially as you'll have more EHP than a non-rigged shield buffer fit. Sure, it'd be stupid to put armor rigs on a BC as you'd then be much better off with a BS, but to be fair I don't feel that the Myrm merits the investment in shield rigs for that matter.
Siigari Kitawa Gallente The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2009.06.30 17:34:00 - [33] Well as I and Nyphur both said earlier, it's a great fit for suprising people in small gang situations. I'm about to use it in a war where the targets are using mostly Ion Dominixes (with Guardian support) and I'm going to be interested to see how it fares running figure eights around the war targets. The sole problem I am going to encounter are drones, but that's to be expected. Also, to post in regards to a Brutix, I already attempted to make a Brutix setup out of this... the Myrmidon was superior in all regards: [Brutix, Hull Tank] Reinforced Bulkheads II Reinforced Bulkheads II Reinforced Bulkheads II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Damage Control II 10MN MicroWarpdrive I Warp Disruptor II Stasis Webifier II Balmer Series Targeting Inhibitor I Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] Hammerhead II x5 Problem with this setup is you can't rig it, because the grid is packed super tight. So that tiny buffer the Myrmidon has against the Brutix in grid allows for a damage augmentation. Anyway, numbers: 839m/s 680 DPS standard, 758 overload ~ 1 minute 47k EHP, 11.9k in hull. It's not bad, but it's not fantastic either. www.siigarikitawa.com ò www.quafeultra.com ò Buy a GTC
Duke Starbuckington	Posted - 2009.06.30 18:02:00 - [34] Originally by: Siigari Kitawa It's not bad, but it's not fantastic either. It wouldn't be, it's a Brutix.
StationSpinner	Posted - 2009.06.30 18:09:00 - [35] Originally by: Essence Praetor And no I don't post fits on an open forum. I cum more effective fits, you know...and on open forums to boot!
Davinel Lulinvega	Posted - 2009.06.30 18:12:00 - [36] Originally by: StationSpinner Originally by: Essence Praetor And no I don't post fits on an open forum. I cum more effective fits, you know...and on open forums to boot! Originally by: CCP Tuxford Now the op looks like a weirdo that can't read kekekeke! inb4 stealth edit
Enden Assulu Caldari Blood Money Inc.	Posted - 2009.06.30 18:51:00 - [37] Hmm, taking a Brutix up against a fleet of RR Dominixes, you will be primary due to the fact most Brutixes do quite a lot of damage with rather tragic EHP. Despite your slight bit more tank you will still die horribly especially since the Dominixes will probably use Ogres or Berserkers and Berserkers will be able to keep up with your abysmal speed. Your better off taking a Dominix of your own and actually contributing to your fleet Click the image!
Omarvelous Destry's Lounge Important Internet Spaceship League	Posted - 2009.06.30 18:55:00 - [38] Seriously if you wanna hull tank it - go with 425 autocannons and ambit rigs. At least you can hit things beyond web range. Going 800 m/s in a medium class blaster boat is blekh. Important Internet Spaceship League Wants You
Zaerlorth Maelkor The Maverick Navy Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2009.06.30 20:04:00 - [39] Originally by: Iria Ahrens and all those x2 drones. Wtf? A flight of mediums > 2 ogres. Flight of smalls > 2 mediums. Way to show off your lack of knowledge on the myrm. However, you might want to consider a few things, first of all; I now have one of those annoying sigs. second; you should probably move on to some more interesting things than reading this sig.
Dirk Culliford H A V O C	Posted - 2009.06.30 20:32:00 - [40] Originally by: Iria Ahrens and all those x2 drones. Wtf? A flight of mediums > 2 ogres. Flight of smalls > 2 mediums. Myrm has 75m3 bandwidth, not 50. I'll leave you to try and figure out the rest
Nyphur Pillowsoft Total Comfort	Posted - 2009.06.30 21:17:00 - [41] Originally by: Siigari Kitawa Well as I and Nyphur both said earlier, it's a great fit for suprising people in small gang situations. I'm about to use it in a war where the targets are using mostly Ion Dominixes (with Guardian support) and I'm going to be interested to see how it fares running figure eights around the war targets. The sole problem I am going to encounter are drones, but that's to be expected. Also, to post in regards to a Brutix, I already attempted to make a Brutix setup out of this... the Myrmidon was superior in all regards: Actually, if you drop a few neutrons to ions, you can fit those damage rigs and get about 760DPS out of the Brutix, 850 overloaded. Or a faster armour plated version with hybrid rigs and all ions can get 740 DPS, 828 overloaded. I wish the myrm was better in pvp than the brutix but it's really not. Almost anything the myrm can do, the brutix can do better. The only real exception I've ever found to that rule is recharge-based passive tanking, in which the myrmidon can get almost as good a tank as a drake (same DPS tanked at peak but poorer HP and if it drops below 32% it'll go splat much faster). EVE-Tanking.com - Helping you keep your hull in-tact.
Rajere No Trademark	Posted - 2009.06.30 21:20:00 - [42] Originally by: Siigari Kitawa Well as I and Nyphur both said earlier, it's a great fit for suprising people in small gang situations. Hold that thought because i'm going to take the time to explain to you all of the many, many ways in which that is wrong. First, you do realize you're not actually going to be surprising anyone, right? 2-3 years ago, surprise hull tank, sure, but only when you used on a viable ship such as a dominix. Ya know, a ship which has enough natural shield+armor buffer that your "psych warfare" lolbs is actually possible? On a ship which is actually capable of achieving a decent amount of Structure EHP, thus is capable of tricking someone with a surprise structure tank? Second, that P.O.S. vs a Dominix? Dude you should be worried about how it would fare against stabber, or caracal, hell even an AF. Here's how your latest idea in what is an impressively long list of terrible ideas, would work if you actually had the courage to fight anyone with a clue: fight starts Your shield evaporates. Way to fast for you to be shield tanked...Too quickly for your opponent to have time to even notice you even had shields to begin with much less wonder if you were shield tanked. your armor evaporates. It also melted too quickly for you to be armor tanked or for him to even consider it a possibility either. At this point his initial thoughts are, he assumes you are entirely unfit. You're in structure...surprise!...Oh wait..Your structure's got as much EHP as a Moa. ie the "surprise!" part lasts long enough for you to type "surprise!" in local, just before... You explode. At this point, the shields on the T1 cruiser which just housed your myrm regen back up from 90% shields. And yes, my third point is a continuation of my second, that your fail ship would lose to pretty much anything. If I had to guess I'd say I could take it 1v1 with a catalyst. This is only possible because you are truly, truly terrible at eve, incapable of understanding the most basic premises of how this game works, so you've opted for using blasters on ship capable of being kited by anything as fast or faster than a mwd battleship, which is, oh yeah every sub-capital ship in the game. Against my better judgement I'm going to help you out. The key is, and pay attention because this is the really important bit, in order to "trick" someone, they have to be able to: 1. notice the situation/conditions you've manipulated in order to trick them 2. make assumptions based on that information 3. take action based on that faulty information 4. suffer consequences due taking said actions You've got a hull tanked myrmidon. First of it's many problems is, your myrm has the standard amount of myrmidon ehp, actually it's got less than an armor tanked one, which is lulz in and of itself, but I digress. There's nothing special about your myrm, you've simply got the bulk of what is the average myrm EHP amount in Hull instead of shields or armor. Now this means you've got virtually no EHP anywhere else. Your shield's EHP is less than the EHP of a Punisher. your armor EHP is less than a Blackbird. That means your shields and Armor simply do not last long enough for your attacker to complete step #1 above. More importantly, even if he was "tricked", you're missing Step #4. Your myrmidon has nothing special going on, in fact it's less than special since it has less EHP than a regular old armor tanked myrm, much less a bait tanked one with dual 1600plates or something. Any ship which would engage you assumes his ship can kill a myrm. You're big "surprise!" is that he is right, he can beat you. Your epic setup has less EHP than he was expecting, not to mention it's an immobile brick meaning you'll be dealing nada dps to him. The only "surprise" with your setup is how surprisingly easy it will be to kill. The opinions expressed in my posts do represent my corp -------------------------- NOTR
NeoNeTiC LOCKDOWN. Cult of War	Posted - 2009.06.30 22:31:00 - [43] Edited by: NeoNeTiC on 30/06/2009 22:31:17 I don't like hull tanked ships below BS size but a hull tanked Navy Mega or other faction BS is major win sauce since people will primary it and stay on grid just to see it go poof (which it hopefully won't). Other than that: I'd not cripple a Myrm to make it perform underwhelming compared to its normal fits. The weirdness is fun though. :o
PieceOfMind GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.07.01 03:18:00 - [44] I wouldn't take fitting advice from anyone who lost two deadspace fitted tech 3 ships in a week.
Misanth Reaper Industries	Posted - 2009.07.01 04:23:00 - [45] Originally by: PieceOfMind I wouldn't take fitting advice from anyone who lost two deadspace fitted tech 3 ships in a week. I would. It's just more a question of how they were lost. As for these buffer/dps Myrmi's.. The only one remotely attractive in my eyes would be the shield myrmi, but I'd still consider AC's or Pulses over Blasters on it. And tbh, the more I think about it, the more attractive a regular HAM Drake gets. - I'd tell you why but then I'll have to kill you. And to kill you I'd have to log in. And to log in I'd have to stop browsing these forums. Both you and me knows that'll never happen.

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