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Jorafai
Dirt.Ink
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Posted - 2009.06.30 21:03:00 -
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Hi everyone! A question for some of you who might know.
Im very new to my current corp. One day infact. And during this day, i was given control of the corporation's Orca. I cant afford one, and only trained up the skills on my previous corp's request. However, was given control of this Orca.
Long story short, after the mining op, i placed the Orca back in the corp hangar, and now its gone missing. Lost, Stolen, or what have you. I obviously am the prime culprit, but insist i didnt do it. Is there any way to prove i didnt? That day, i was lent several other items and ships, and all were returned, so theres one 'defence' i have. But id love to find some logs to prove it wasnt me 
Im hoping its lost, and a petition will solve it. However, i really am worried im to blame 
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Carebear Claire
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Posted - 2009.06.30 21:06:00 -
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Screen shots of assets window and all wallet transactions...........
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Arous Drephius
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Posted - 2009.06.30 21:39:00 -
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There's no way to prove that you didn't steal it. There is no logging of corp hangar activities, so your word is all you have to go on.
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Epegi Givo
Amarr Moral Equivalent Of War
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Posted - 2009.06.30 21:44:00 -
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open up assets window and search for Orca
then open of the wallet and press whatever button lets you see all your isk transactions.
Place the two windows next to eachother and screenshot it.
Give your corp the screenshot. ------------------------------------- My other alt is a Ferrari
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Jorafai
Dirt.Ink
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Posted - 2009.06.30 21:58:00 -
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Thankyou guys. Lets hope it works 
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Clone 984
Shining Horses Red Dwarf Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.30 22:05:00 -
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do you have view access to the corp hangar you put it in ?
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Intense Thinker
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.06.30 22:59:00 -
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Should've stolen it, that way you deserve the blame Inappropriate content removed. Please keep signature EVE related. Zymurgist |

Lexa Hellfury
R.E.C.O.N. Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.06.30 23:03:00 -
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Wait, complete strangers gave you control of an Orca, and you didn't take it? Wtf is wrong with you?
Originally by: RedSplat The Forum moderation Software known as Mitnal became self aware. CCP had no choice but to shut it down.
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Sazuka Kirr
Utopian Research I.E.L. Hedonistic Imperative
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Posted - 2009.06.30 23:14:00 -
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You could provide them with your Full API, which could be used to show whether it's in your assets on any of the characters on your account. It could also be used to check your wallet transactions. If you traded with anyone, they'll be able to see a trade window was opened with a specific character at a specific time on a given day. They'll be able to see if you created a contract or received a large sum of ISK for the private sale of the Orca.
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Susung
Alt Anti-defamation League
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Posted - 2009.06.30 23:22:00 -
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applying to dirt.ink before the rush
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Waxau
Mercurialis Inc. Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.06.30 23:30:00 -
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Edited by: Waxau on 30/06/2009 23:30:28 >.<
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Brock Nelson
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2009.07.01 00:19:00 -
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Originally by: Sazuka Kirr You could provide them with your Full API, which could be used to show whether it's in your assets on any of the characters on your account. It could also be used to check your wallet transactions. If you traded with anyone, they'll be able to see a trade window was opened with a specific character at a specific time on a given day. They'll be able to see if you created a contract or received a large sum of ISK for the private sale of the Orca.
Useless, you can do a direct trade with a char on your second account. Wouldn't show up except as a transaction line in your wallet history that says nothing about what you traded.
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Rilwar
BlackStar Industrial
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Posted - 2009.07.01 01:23:00 -
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Originally by: Brock Nelson
Originally by: Sazuka Kirr You could provide them with your Full API, which could be used to show whether it's in your assets on any of the characters on your account. It could also be used to check your wallet transactions. If you traded with anyone, they'll be able to see a trade window was opened with a specific character at a specific time on a given day. They'll be able to see if you created a contract or received a large sum of ISK for the private sale of the Orca.
Useless, you can do a direct trade with a char on your second account. Wouldn't show up except as a transaction line in your wallet history that says nothing about what you traded.
Timeframe would match time of theft for a 0 ISK trade, sorta like a big admission of guilt.

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Miney Prospector
Caldari Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2009.07.01 02:18:00 -
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So.... does somebody have a hot Orca for sale?
I'm not saying anything, I'm just sayin' |

Tranquil Vengence
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Posted - 2009.07.01 02:54:00 -
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Find out who stole it, send their information to me. Maybe they'll sell it cheap with no cost in it and I can clean up.
Or return their Orca (I woulda stole the hell out of it and crashed it into the sun, wooooo baby).
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Ohh Yeah
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Posted - 2009.07.01 02:55:00 -
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Edited by: Ohh Yeah on 01/07/2009 02:56:18 This is too big of a mystery for me, I think we better call in the Hardly Boys
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Lana Hellfury
Minmatar Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2009.07.01 04:17:00 -
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Originally by: Miney Prospector So.... does somebody have a hot Orca for sale?
Yeah but im pretty sure its not his guys.
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EnslaverOfMinmatar
Amarr Viziam
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Posted - 2009.07.01 04:25:00 -
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To supplement the Orca, CCP should add another ship called Goblina. uʍop ǝpısdn ǝɹnʇɐuƃıs ʎɯ ƃuıpɐǝɹ ǝɹɐ noʎ
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Lana Hellfury
Minmatar Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2009.07.01 04:27:00 -
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Originally by: EnslaverOfMinmatar Nothing of importance
LET MY PEOPLE GO!
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EnslaverOfMinmatar
Amarr Viziam
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Posted - 2009.07.01 04:40:00 -
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Originally by: Lana Hellfury lamentations of the women
Cheezburgers can't walk uʍop ǝpısdn ǝɹnʇɐuƃıs ʎɯ ƃuıpɐǝɹ ǝɹɐ noʎ
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Jojo Redana
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Posted - 2009.07.01 07:25:00 -
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This thread smells funny. You stole the orca and now you're building a backup story that you didn't. Posting at C&P and acting like a noob does not proof a thing.
Good plan tho.
Btw, if you really really (o'rly) are innocent you can always blame on me.
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TraininVain
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Posted - 2009.07.01 07:32:00 -
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Tiny Tove
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Posted - 2009.07.01 10:31:00 -
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So next time, steal the Orca.
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Anyura
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Posted - 2009.07.01 10:45:00 -
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All the cool kids are stealing Orcas.
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Jorafai
Dirt.Ink
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Posted - 2009.07.01 11:33:00 -
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Originally by: Jojo Redana This thread smells funny. You stole the orca and now you're building a backup story that you didn't. Posting at C&P and acting like a noob does not proof a thing.
Good plan tho.
Btw, if you really really (o'rly) are innocent you can always blame on me.
But i dont want to blame people who didnt do it. I mean, i dont know who did, and thats if it has actually been stolen and not a bug.
The CEO has petitioned it, so hopefully that'll prove i didnt steal it.
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Snasty
Caldari The Hippies House of Mercury
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Posted - 2009.07.01 12:04:00 -
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Next time, if there is one, insist that you trade any ship back to the CEO, or whoever, rather than just drop it in a hanger.
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Kuranta
Minmatar Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2009.07.01 13:51:00 -
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OP is now one step closer to paranoia. One of the things EVE teaches about life.
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omglolpewpewbbq
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Posted - 2009.07.01 14:08:00 -
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Originally by: Lexa Hellfury Wait, complete strangers gave you control of an Orca, and you didn't take it? Wtf is wrong with you?
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Tezalsh
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Posted - 2009.07.01 14:14:00 -
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What would happen if the bright spark 'Trashed' the ship, would that show up in the API?
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Eswidrol
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Posted - 2009.07.08 04:49:00 -
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Originally by: Tezalsh What would happen if the bright spark 'Trashed' the ship, would that show up in the API?
Oh yeah, he put it back in the Ores hangar! So they refined the ores then recycled all the loots...
That would be the best way :) and everybody would get a nice pay on this mining ops.
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Nicholas Barker
Duty.
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Posted - 2009.07.08 14:59:00 -
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your contracts look clean, you haven't got rid of it that way.
you could try giving them the more details API so they can see your wallet transactions.
and i wouldn't go about doing any player to player trades until it's cleared up. ------
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ol gil
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Posted - 2009.07.08 15:16:00 -
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did the people in your last corp ask you to train to fly the orca, so they could send you out to steal one for them?
also if you stole it, eject at a pos or a deep safe(more than 15au from a clestial) and get a friend to fly it home
if you didnt steal it stupidity is your best defence
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Jack Gates
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.07.08 15:37:00 -
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The op is the biggest mongoloid since Corky. Jesus Christ, he has trouble communicating a complete thought. I AM NEW TO CORP. THIS ONE DAY. MAN TOOK ORCA. WHO TOOK MY FROG? HELP.
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Jorafai
Astral Logistics
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Posted - 2009.07.08 16:16:00 -
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Originally by: Jack Gates The op is the biggest mongoloid since Corky. Jesus Christ, he has trouble communicating a complete thought. I AM NEW TO CORP. THIS ONE DAY. MAN TOOK ORCA. WHO TOOK MY FROG? HELP.
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If you cant understand what i type, then perhaps you should take up english lessons. Or even better, take up acting. That way, you might be able to work on your '******ed' character a bit better. You're pulling it off, dont get me wrong. But i think you might be a bit to 'true to life'.
Failing that, stop trolling threads. I swear goons come to the forums everytime i hear of them being camped in.
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Awesome Possum
Insert Obscure Latin Name
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Posted - 2009.07.08 16:20:00 -
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Originally by: Jack Gates The op is the biggest mongoloid since Corky. Jesus Christ, he has trouble communicating a complete thought. I AM NEW TO CORP. THIS ONE DAY. MAN TOOK ORCA. WHO TOOK MY FROG? HELP.
Sometimes, I really hate my country. ♥
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Jack Gates
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.07.08 16:32:00 -
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Originally by: Jorafai how is babby formed how girl get pragnent
they need to do way instain mother
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Normin Bates
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Posted - 2009.07.08 16:58:00 -
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1. They trusted you with an Orca 1 day after joining. 2. They accuse you of stealing it. 3. You tell them you didn't and they don't believe you. 4. You decide you don't have to prove shat because they're stupid enough to lend it to you in the first place. 5. Your revenge for such accusations from a fail corp is to empty the corp hanger and rob them blind. 6. Leave to find a real corp. |

Siran Narian
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Posted - 2009.07.08 18:28:00 -
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Anyone who knows what they're doing won't corp-theft ships this way. You go to a deep safe, undock and put an alt in it, the alt flies away. No record no matter how often they check your api/screenshots.
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Traidor Disloyal
Private Nuisance
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Posted - 2009.07.08 20:25:00 -
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In Eve you are guilty until proven.....heck, you're just guilty, period. ************************************************* I have three characters. One has Cov Ops V along with all the bells and whistles that goes with it. |

BurnedCoronas
Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.07.08 23:02:00 -
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Originally by: Normin Bates
5. Your revenge for such accusations from a fail corp is to empty the corp hanger and rob them blind. 6. Leave to find a real corp.
this
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buttesauce
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Posted - 2009.07.09 02:49:00 -
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NOT MY ORCA!!!!
mean men use a rorqual anyway...
of course that involves not living in empire
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Mire Stoude
The Undesirables
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Posted - 2009.07.09 04:40:00 -
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Edited by: Mire Stoude on 09/07/2009 04:41:42 If you are actually innocent, I would assume the person who thrust the ship into your control (whoever had the brillant idea) did it. They just needed a fall guy to cover their tracks. Who gives a guy control of an Orca after one day? Somebody who needs a fall guy, that's who.
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Anke Eissmann
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Posted - 2009.07.09 05:46:00 -
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Originally by: Jorafai That day, i was lent several other items and ships, and all were returned, so theres one 'defence' i have. But id love to find some logs to prove it wasnt me 
Im hoping its lost, and a petition will solve it. However, i really am worried im to blame 
Give them your private API key (can be reset afterwards). It will let them view all of your assets and journal transactions, etc. Still doesn't prove you didn't transfer the ship to another neutral player though.
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Ser Enity
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Posted - 2009.07.09 13:11:00 -
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Originally by: Jack Gates The op is the biggest mongoloid since Corky. Jesus Christ, he has trouble communicating a complete thought. I AM NEW TO CORP. THIS ONE DAY. MAN TOOK ORCA. WHO TOOK MY FROG? HELP.
Wow! A real internet-spaceship b4da$$ speaking up
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