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deathscyth76
Caldari
Holy Knights X
The Last Stand
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Posted - 2009.07.02 01:01:00 -
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So, a pesky little Ishkur likes to take my favorite things out of my favorite cans.
(Don't you dare say anything,
I know I shouldn't be doing it.
Don't be my Mom, about this)
Anyone know of a T1 ship that can take down a scramming Ishkur?
I really don't want to invest in T2 ship, just to fight a T2 Ship...
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Sader Rykane
Amarr
Midnight Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.07.02 01:02:00 -
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Arbitrator.
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Omara Otawan
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Posted - 2009.07.02 01:08:00 -
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Anything that can fit medium neut + some light drones?
Maybe add a few frigate-sized guns for good measure.
=> Vexor? Thorax?
This was a free sample, if you need more advice I'd need a 50mill isk service fee.
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Kessiaan
Minmatar
MicroFunks
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Posted - 2009.07.02 01:26:00 -
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The usual anti-AF candidates are the Thorax, the Vexor, and the Arbitrator.
Personally I prefer the Thorax as it's the least likely of the bunch of be considered a serious threat (and stopping the fight before it even starts), and its main source of DPS can't be disabled short of killing it, making it ideal for fighting AF gangs and not just lone AFs.
Thorax, Lights
HIGH:
5x Light Neutron Blaster II
MID:
10MN Microwarpdrive I
Warp Scrambler II
Stasis Webifier II
LOW:
Damage Control II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates
3x Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
DRONE:
10x Warrior II
Brutally effective (I've fought 1v3 against AFs and still had my ship at the end), and cheap enough to throw around. For what it is, it's also reasonably decent against cruisers, though I still try to avoid engaging experienced pilots 1v1 with it if they're in good DPS cruisers. One of my favorite ships, actually.
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Kalysta Juventas
Earned In Blood
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Posted - 2009.07.02 01:42:00 -
[5]
 Originally by: Kessiaan
The usual anti-AF candidates are the Thorax, the Vexor, and the Arbitrator.
Personally I prefer the Thorax as it's the least likely of the bunch of be considered a serious threat (and stopping the fight before it even starts), and its main source of DPS can't be disabled short of killing it, making it ideal for fighting AF gangs and not just lone AFs.
Thorax, Lights
HIGH:
5x Light Neutron Blaster II
MID:
10MN Microwarpdrive I
Warp Scrambler II
Stasis Webifier II
LOW:
Damage Control II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates
3x Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
DRONE:
10x Warrior II
Brutally effective (I've fought 1v3 against AFs and still had my ship at the end), and cheap enough to throw around. For what it is, it's also reasonably decent against cruisers, though I still try to avoid engaging experienced pilots 1v1 with it if they're in good DPS cruisers. One of my favorite ships, actually.
I can vouch for this setup because I've died to it before [;
But most top tier cruisers can rip them to shreds. Dual webbing is a must tho.
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Mutnin
Mutineers
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Posted - 2009.07.02 02:15:00 -
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A gank fit coercer can kill them to, but it will be a fight and you will have no point to stop him from warping. That means he needs to think he is going to kill you so he gets suckered into the fight.
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Xenophanes Colophon
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Posted - 2009.07.02 02:42:00 -
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Did it once with a rifter using 3x autocannons w/faction ammo, 1x small nos2, 1 tracking disruptor2 w/ tracking speed script, 1x ab2, 1x scram2, 1x armor rep2, 1x cap relay2, 1x gyrostabilizer2, 1x projectile collision accelerator1, 1x projectile burst aerator1. orbiting as close as possible they can't hit you, but you have no such problem.
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Damar Rocarion
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Posted - 2009.07.02 05:08:00 -
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I use the following Caracal in FW and i've yet to lose to an Ishkur and this has so far soloed any assault ship easily. If they have mwd, then can probably escape from you but overheating is your friend here.
High:
5 x Assault Missile Launcher II
Med:
2 x best named large shield extender (can also fit 1 x t2 and one named)
1 x invul field I or II
1 x warp disruptor II
1 x 10mn mwd
low:
2 x Ballistic control II
Drones: 2 x warrior II
T1 fit works as well and should still kill an Ishkur. This whole fit costs around 10m. Remmeber to use piranha missiles for explosive damage as t2 gallente ships have natural resistances of a paper bag vs it.
Damar Rocarion
Brigadier General
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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2009.07.02 05:55:00 -
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Coercer, of cooz.
"The Amarr are the tanking and ganking floating rods of goldcrap"
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Asuka Smith
Gallente
StarHunt
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Posted - 2009.07.02 05:56:00 -
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[Vexor, 1600mm]
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
10MN MicroWarpdrive I
Warp Scrambler II
Stasis Webifier II
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Hobgoblin II x1
Hammerhead II x2
Ogre II x2
Warrior II x5
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Pytria Le'Danness
Placid Reborn
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Posted - 2009.07.02 07:25:00 -
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Vexor is a good guess, I lost an Ishkur to a neuting Vexor in the beginning of FW when I thought the NPCs would help me more than they did.
Yes, even with the NPCs against him the Vexor managed to take me out - simply due to the fact that I had no cap to fight him.
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Morel Nova
z3r0 Gravity
YARRR and CO
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Posted - 2009.07.02 12:30:00 -
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most AF pilots are very cautious around arbitrators and vexors, so I suggest my personal favorite bait ship:
[Stabber, I am just a Stabber]
Gyrostabilizer II
Damage Control II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
10MN Afterburner I
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator
200mm AutoCannon II,Republic Fleet EMP S
200mm AutoCannon II,Republic Fleet EMP S
200mm AutoCannon II,Republic Fleet EMP S
200mm AutoCannon II,Republic Fleet EMP S
Medium Energy Neutralizer II
Small Energy Neutralizer II
[empty rig slot]
Warrior II
will die to anything not frig/destroyer size though.
Put in space whales!
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TraininVain
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Posted - 2009.07.02 13:46:00 -
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Arbitrator tbh.
Fit some small neuts autocannons, warrior iis, enough tackle to keep him in one place.
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Crope
Minmatar
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2009.07.02 14:05:00 -
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Edited by: Crope on 02/07/2009 14:08:44
Originally by: Morel Nova
most AF pilots are very cautious around arbitrators and vexors, so I suggest my personal favorite bait ship:
[Stabber, I am just a Stabber][...]
I had success with a frigank Stabber also, I went with :
[Stabber, Frigank]
Medium Armor Repairer II
Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Warp Scrambler II
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 400
10MN MicroWarpdrive I
200mm AutoCannon II, Barrage S
200mm AutoCannon II, Barrage S
200mm AutoCannon II, Barrage S
200mm AutoCannon II, Barrage S
'Arbalest' Assault Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Bloodclaw Light Missile
Medium Rudimentary Energy Destabilizer I
[empty rig slot]
Hobgoblin II x1
Worked pretty well for catching inties too.
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Poopsmiff
University of Caille
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Posted - 2009.07.02 14:18:00 -
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Originally by: Asuka Smith
[Vexor, 1600mm]
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
10MN MicroWarpdrive I
Warp Scrambler II
Stasis Webifier II
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Hobgoblin II x1
Hammerhead II x2
Ogre II x2
Warrior II x5
This would **** an Ishkur. Just bring all Warrior II's instead of those drones you have listed.
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Karentaki
Gallente
Oberon Incorporated
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.07.02 15:35:00 -
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Erebus.
Quote:
EVE is like a sandbox with landmines. Deal with it.
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Vidi Angelus
Caldari
Crystal Dynamics
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.07.02 16:30:00 -
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I'll second the AML Caracal, Cheap, and vicious vs frigates & Destroyers. Kinetic damage bonus is nice as lots of frigs have a kinetic hole.
Can get away with pretending to be a ratter pretty easily as well.
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Gypsio III
Dirty Filthy Perverts
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Posted - 2009.07.02 16:50:00 -
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Any cruiser, basically.
AML Caracal is particularly good though, as many AF pilots will see your Caracal and assume that a) you're a noob in a Caracal; b) you have no tackle; c) you have HMs fitted, and often all three, and hence will be an easy kill. A Vexor or Arbitrator typically inspires more caution.
5x AML II
MWD, web, disruptor, LSE, Inv
2x BCS
2x warrior II
Great ship for solo-hunting all types of frigates. Try to use the correct missile damage type.
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Mikayla Grey
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.07.02 17:15:00 -
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Use a osprey. Then he wont run away.
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Grista
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Posted - 2009.07.02 18:10:00 -
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Originally by: Mikayla Grey
Use a osprey. Then he wont run away.
Bait Osprey with a rack of Warriors, Assault Launchers, and a shield tank / point would be my choice, as well. Just let him get in real close before you let him have hit.
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Corduroy Rab
Chaos Reborn
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Posted - 2009.07.02 19:07:00 -
[21]
Originally by: Karentaki
Erebus.
awww you beat me to it 
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Sserxe
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Posted - 2009.07.02 20:01:00 -
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How about the following.
Celestis
[LOW]
Magnetic Field Stabilizer I
Ballistic Control System I
Overdrive Injector System I
[MEDIUM]
Warp Scrambler I
Stasis Webifier I
1MN Afterburner I
Invulnerability Field I
Large Shield Extender I
[HIGH]
Heavy Electron Blaster I,Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster I,Antimatter Charge M
'Malkuth' Rocket Launcher I,Caldari Navy Gremlin Rocket
'Malkuth' Rocket Launcher I,Caldari Navy Gremlin Rocket
The drone bay has room for 4 medium drone.
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2009.07.02 20:28:00 -
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If it's the standard MWD fitted Ishkur you can do it in a Navy Slicer using Medium Pulse II's. Scram it and orbit with AB burning.
For the increasingly common AB Ishkur, you will need a cruiser I am afraid .. his cap will last long enough for the drones to do their work if in frigate size vessel.
Ishkur, for all it's advantages, must be a difficult bird to fly .. so many die due to obvious piloting errors. Probably the FoTM effect; "looks godly on paper, must fly and pwn on it's own"
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Commander Yassir
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.07.03 03:29:00 -
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Thrasher.
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The man who smiles when things go wrong has thought of someone to blame it on. |
Muad' Dib
Gallente
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2009.07.03 11:29:00 -
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Originally by: Damar Rocarion
I use the following Caracal in FW and i've yet to lose to an Ishkur and this has so far soloed any assault ship easily. If they have mwd, then can probably escape from you but overheating is your friend here.
High:
5 x Assault Missile Launcher II
Med:
2 x best named large shield extender (can also fit 1 x t2 and one named)
1 x invul field I or II
1 x warp disruptor II
1 x 10mn mwd
low:
2 x Ballistic control II
Drones: 2 x warrior II
T1 fit works as well and should still kill an Ishkur. This whole fit costs around 10m. Remmeber to use piranha missiles for explosive damage as t2 gallente ships have natural resistances of a paper bag vs it.
Damar Rocarion
Brigadier General
Replace invul with webb, warp disruptor with scrambler, and fit 2 shield em rigs and 1 thermal to compensate.
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Roland Deschaines
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.07.04 17:50:00 -
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Originally by: Xenophanes Colophon
Did it once with a rifter using 3x autocannons w/faction ammo, 1x small nos2, 1 tracking disruptor2 w/ tracking speed script, 1x ab2, 1x scram2, 1x armor rep2, 1x cap relay2, 1x gyrostabilizer2, 1x projectile collision accelerator1, 1x projectile burst aerator1. orbiting as close as possible they can't hit you, but you have no such problem.
Ishkur? Heard of drones?
No web? Heard of kiting?
No DC?
Any cruiser with two webs and a neut will easily kill any AF.
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omgdutch2005
Gallente
Advanced Planetary Exports
Intergalactic Exports Group
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Posted - 2009.07.04 17:58:00 -
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2x Small 'Arup' I Remote Bulwark Reconstruction
3x Drone Link Augmentor I
Omnidirectional Tracking Link I
2x Drone Navigation Computer I
Reactive Plating II
Adaptive Nano Plating II
Damage Control II
1600mm Reinforced Titanium Plates I
5x hobgobs T2 should suffice at my skills they go 6km/s, so u can even kill pesky ceptors /w it ;-)
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Xenophanes Colophon
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Posted - 2009.07.05 00:33:00 -
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Originally by: Roland Deschaines
Originally by: Xenophanes Colophon
Did it once with a rifter using 3x autocannons w/faction ammo, 1x small nos2, 1 tracking disruptor2 w/ tracking speed script, 1x ab2, 1x scram2, 1x armor rep2, 1x cap relay2, 1x gyrostabilizer2, 1x projectile collision accelerator1, 1x projectile burst aerator1. orbiting as close as possible they can't hit you, but you have no such problem.
Ishkur? Heard of drones?
No web? Heard of kiting?
No DC?
Any cruiser with two webs and a neut will easily kill any AF.
They never launched any drones, which I found odd. If they'd had any friends nearby I'd have been screwed as it took me forever. As for a web, I didn't need one as I was alot faster seeing as their mwd was scrambled and I had my ab2. And in my setup why would you use a dc? The only thing that ever hits is a missile or rocket, and only at a greatly reduced amount. The Armor Rep takes care of that, the AF never even came close to getting into my hull. It's possible a couple drones could have drastically changed the outcome, but there's only one way to really find that out...
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Damnskippy
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Posted - 2009.07.06 03:55:00 -
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Bellicose ( nobody runs from one )
[Bellicose, roaming]
Overdrive Injector System II
Damage Control II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
10MN MicroWarpdrive I
Warp Scrambler II
X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator
Large Shield Extender II
50W Infectious Power System Malfunction
Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
'Arbalest' Assault Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Bloodclaw Light Missile
'Arbalest' Assault Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Bloodclaw Light Missile
Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I
Warrior II x5
Warrior II x3
Also good at taking out small gangs of interceptors. 
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente
Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.07.06 04:34:00 -
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Personally don't have such a ship to take down, but would anyone consider a passive tanking Hurricane with a medium neut, small auto canons, and drones? Possibly it's own scram?
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