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Eowynn
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Posted - 2004.09.23 17:53:00 -
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Hello Fellow Eve Citizens!
Since there are quite a few auctions that are unclear, incomplete, miss details or even miss the ending time/date I have decuded to write a small summary of what is usually expected from an auction on these boards.
Details of item / BP
It is always good to start off the auction stating what you are trying to auction. People want to know as much as possible about what they are buying so usually either a detailed description or a link to such a description is highly appreciated. Screenshots are a good way of showing information aswell. (remember not to post the picture, but a link to the picture instead).
Minimum bid
Secondly one should try to state a starting price. Most players will want to know what kind of oofer will be accepted. For that reason it's a good idea to let the potential buyers see what offer will have you interested.
Minimum bid increase
To prevent players from raising bids with 0.01 isk or 50 isk on a multi-billion ISK item it is wise to post a "minimum bid increase". If one players offers a bid, the next bidder will at least have to bid the current bid + minimum bid increase to have a chance at the auctioned item.
End of auction
Always try to put an ending time and date for the auction. People appreciate to know how long they have to obtain the money or to outbid their opponent. I'd advise to limit the auction to 2-3 days, since most interested buyers will have noticed the auction within this time and having it last longer will only have your thread drop further down the pages.
The time at which the auction ends should also be stated. Keep in mind that players come from all over the world and a good time for you might not be a good time for you. I personally prefer an ending time between 20:00 and 22:00 EVE-time. It seems to suit most timezones.
Sniper rule
A sniper rule is very important in an auction. A sniper rule means that no matter when the auction is supposed to end, if a bid is put in before the end of the auction, the auction will be extended with the time that was mentioned with the sniper rule.
For example if my auction ends at 22:00 and my sniper rule is 15 minutes. Then if someone offers a new bid at 21:50, the auction lasts 15 minutes from 19:50 onwards, so it will now end at 22:05.
Optional parts of an auction
Buy-out Price
If you have a price for which you would sell your item directly you could post it with the auction rules.
Place where the item is
If you are auctioning an item you are unable or unwilling to move, you can always state where the item is located. This will prevent a buyer from backing out if the location is not where he/she wants to go.
Excelsior Enterprises Tech 2 Sales |
Eowynn
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Posted - 2004.09.23 17:53:00 -
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Hello Fellow Eve Citizens!
Since there are quite a few auctions that are unclear, incomplete, miss details or even miss the ending time/date I have decuded to write a small summary of what is usually expected from an auction on these boards.
Details of item / BP
It is always good to start off the auction stating what you are trying to auction. People want to know as much as possible about what they are buying so usually either a detailed description or a link to such a description is highly appreciated. Screenshots are a good way of showing information aswell. (remember not to post the picture, but a link to the picture instead).
Minimum bid
Secondly one should try to state a starting price. Most players will want to know what kind of oofer will be accepted. For that reason it's a good idea to let the potential buyers see what offer will have you interested.
Minimum bid increase
To prevent players from raising bids with 0.01 isk or 50 isk on a multi-billion ISK item it is wise to post a "minimum bid increase". If one players offers a bid, the next bidder will at least have to bid the current bid + minimum bid increase to have a chance at the auctioned item.
End of auction
Always try to put an ending time and date for the auction. People appreciate to know how long they have to obtain the money or to outbid their opponent. I'd advise to limit the auction to 2-3 days, since most interested buyers will have noticed the auction within this time and having it last longer will only have your thread drop further down the pages.
The time at which the auction ends should also be stated. Keep in mind that players come from all over the world and a good time for you might not be a good time for you. I personally prefer an ending time between 20:00 and 22:00 EVE-time. It seems to suit most timezones.
Sniper rule
A sniper rule is very important in an auction. A sniper rule means that no matter when the auction is supposed to end, if a bid is put in before the end of the auction, the auction will be extended with the time that was mentioned with the sniper rule.
For example if my auction ends at 22:00 and my sniper rule is 15 minutes. Then if someone offers a new bid at 21:50, the auction lasts 15 minutes from 19:50 onwards, so it will now end at 22:05.
Optional parts of an auction
Buy-out Price
If you have a price for which you would sell your item directly you could post it with the auction rules.
Place where the item is
If you are auctioning an item you are unable or unwilling to move, you can always state where the item is located. This will prevent a buyer from backing out if the location is not where he/she wants to go.
Excelsior Enterprises Tech 2 Sales |
Amthrianius
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Posted - 2004.09.23 18:01:00 -
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make this a sticky!
Nice post Eowynn
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Amthrianius
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Posted - 2004.09.23 18:01:00 -
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make this a sticky!
Nice post Eowynn
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Xama
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Posted - 2004.09.23 18:36:00 -
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One thing that I would like to add about the sniper rule is that, in my belief, only those that bid before the original end time should be allowed to take advantage of the sniper rule.
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Xama
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Posted - 2004.09.23 18:36:00 -
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One thing that I would like to add about the sniper rule is that, in my belief, only those that bid before the original end time should be allowed to take advantage of the sniper rule.
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Traiben Mightius
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Posted - 2004.09.23 18:59:00 -
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Nice FAQ... Sticky this up! 
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Traiben Mightius
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Posted - 2004.09.23 18:59:00 -
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Nice FAQ... Sticky this up!
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Eowynn
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Posted - 2004.09.25 12:19:00 -
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I'm glad it's appreciated 
Excelsior Enterprises Tech 2 Sales |
Eowynn
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Posted - 2004.09.25 12:19:00 -
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I'm glad it's appreciated
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Zar Winfeld
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Posted - 2004.09.25 12:26:00 -
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Re the ending time, it's also a good idea to try and stick to it... Some people will advise that it should be changed. It's difficult to know if they are suggesting this for your own good and giving you the chance to get optimum bidders, or just trying to manipulate the auction for their own benefit.
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Zar Winfeld
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Posted - 2004.09.25 12:26:00 -
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Re the ending time, it's also a good idea to try and stick to it... Some people will advise that it should be changed. It's difficult to know if they are suggesting this for your own good and giving you the chance to get optimum bidders, or just trying to manipulate the auction for their own benefit.
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Solarion
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Posted - 2004.09.25 14:19:00 -
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Sticky this up ppl! 
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2004.09.10 14:07:45 combat Your Dual Light Pulse Laser II perfectly strikes Guristas Terrorist, wrecking for 146.9 damage. |
Solarion
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Posted - 2004.09.25 14:19:00 -
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Sticky this up ppl!
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2004.09.10 14:07:45 combat Your Dual Light Pulse Laser II perfectly strikes Guristas Terrorist, wrecking for 146.9 damage. |
Namelesz
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Posted - 2004.09.26 05:21:00 -
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found this on page 3, and NOT sticky??!? oh my . . .
*bumpage*
-Namelesz
"I never run away. I merely advance in the opposite direction." -Judicator
"She was so dumb, the smartest thing to ever come out of her mouth was my *****." |
Namelesz
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Posted - 2004.09.26 05:21:00 -
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found this on page 3, and NOT sticky??!? oh my . . .
*bumpage*
-Namelesz
"I never run away. I merely advance in the opposite direction." -Judicator
"She was so dumb, the smartest thing to ever come out of her mouth was my *****." |
Elereth
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Posted - 2004.09.26 05:22:00 -
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Yeah, this gets a sticky.
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Elereth
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Posted - 2004.09.26 05:22:00 -
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Yeah, this gets a sticky.
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ph34r t3h m0d t34m |
Kal Atraides
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Posted - 2004.10.18 17:02:00 -
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fantastic.. cheers
>currently training to level 5: Mad Scotsman Manuvering  / Rank 8 /
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Kal Atraides
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Posted - 2004.10.18 17:02:00 -
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fantastic.. cheers
>currently training to level 5: Mad Scotsman Manuvering / Rank 8 /
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Hellspawn01
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Posted - 2004.10.26 17:22:00 -
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I have some questions.
What if I dont post a reserve price and i¦m not happy with the highest bid?
What if I cancel the auction? Good, not good?
What if the buyer/seller doesnt answer to evemails?
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Hellspawn01
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Posted - 2004.10.26 17:22:00 -
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I have some questions.
What if I dont post a reserve price and i¦m not happy with the highest bid?
What if I cancel the auction? Good, not good?
What if the buyer/seller doesnt answer to evemails?
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Eve is not game, it¦s a way of life! |
Ross Sylibus
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Posted - 2004.10.27 20:37:00 -
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 Originally by: Eowynn
Hello Fellow Eve Citizens!
Since there are quite a few auctions that are unclear, incomplete, miss details or even miss the ending time/date I have decuded to write a small summary of what is usually expected from an auction on these boards.
Details of item / BP
It is always good to start off the auction stating what you are trying to auction. People want to know as much as possible about what they are buying so usually either a detailed description or a link to such a description is highly appreciated. Screenshots are a good way of showing information aswell. (remember not to post the picture, but a link to the picture instead).
Minimum bid
Secondly one should try to state a starting price. Most players will want to know what kind of oofer will be accepted. For that reason it's a good idea to let the potential buyers see what offer will have you interested.
Minimum bid increase
To prevent players from raising bids with 0.01 isk or 50 isk on a multi-billion ISK item it is wise to post a "minimum bid increase". If one players offers a bid, the next bidder will at least have to bid the current bid + minimum bid increase to have a chance at the auctioned item.
End of auction
Always try to put an ending time and date for the auction. People appreciate to know how long they have to obtain the money or to outbid their opponent. I'd advise to limit the auction to 2-3 days, since most interested buyers will have noticed the auction within this time and having it last longer will only have your thread drop further down the pages.
The time at which the auction ends should also be stated. Keep in mind that players come from all over the world and a good time for you might not be a good time for you. I personally prefer an ending time between 20:00 and 22:00 EVE-time. It seems to suit most timezones.
Sniper rule
A sniper rule is very important in an auction. A sniper rule means that no matter when the auction is supposed to end, if a bid is put in before the end of the auction, the auction will be extended with the time that was mentioned with the sniper rule.
For example if my auction ends at 22:00 and my sniper rule is 15 minutes. Then if someone offers a new bid at 21:50, the auction lasts 15 minutes from 19:50 onwards, so it will now end at 22:05.
Optional parts of an auction
Buy-out Price
If you have a price for which you would sell your item directly you could post it with the auction rules.
Place where the item is
If you are auctioning an item you are unable or unwilling to move, you can always state where the item is located. This will prevent a buyer from backing out if the location is not where he/she wants to go.
Snipe rule is 100% wrong....
I playd mrpg for over 6 years been tradeing and auction for that time...
Snipe rule work like this:
Ur ending time is 20:00 and 15 min snipe rule.... thats mean all that has bid in the auction to 20:00 can bid in the snipe rule for 15 min... new ending time is then 20:15..
or else u can bid in ever time and not ending the auction.. and thats not fear for everyone.....
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Ross Sylibus
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Posted - 2004.10.27 20:37:00 -
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Originally by: Eowynn
Hello Fellow Eve Citizens!
Since there are quite a few auctions that are unclear, incomplete, miss details or even miss the ending time/date I have decuded to write a small summary of what is usually expected from an auction on these boards.
Details of item / BP
It is always good to start off the auction stating what you are trying to auction. People want to know as much as possible about what they are buying so usually either a detailed description or a link to such a description is highly appreciated. Screenshots are a good way of showing information aswell. (remember not to post the picture, but a link to the picture instead).
Minimum bid
Secondly one should try to state a starting price. Most players will want to know what kind of oofer will be accepted. For that reason it's a good idea to let the potential buyers see what offer will have you interested.
Minimum bid increase
To prevent players from raising bids with 0.01 isk or 50 isk on a multi-billion ISK item it is wise to post a "minimum bid increase". If one players offers a bid, the next bidder will at least have to bid the current bid + minimum bid increase to have a chance at the auctioned item.
End of auction
Always try to put an ending time and date for the auction. People appreciate to know how long they have to obtain the money or to outbid their opponent. I'd advise to limit the auction to 2-3 days, since most interested buyers will have noticed the auction within this time and having it last longer will only have your thread drop further down the pages.
The time at which the auction ends should also be stated. Keep in mind that players come from all over the world and a good time for you might not be a good time for you. I personally prefer an ending time between 20:00 and 22:00 EVE-time. It seems to suit most timezones.
Sniper rule
A sniper rule is very important in an auction. A sniper rule means that no matter when the auction is supposed to end, if a bid is put in before the end of the auction, the auction will be extended with the time that was mentioned with the sniper rule.
For example if my auction ends at 22:00 and my sniper rule is 15 minutes. Then if someone offers a new bid at 21:50, the auction lasts 15 minutes from 19:50 onwards, so it will now end at 22:05.
Optional parts of an auction
Buy-out Price
If you have a price for which you would sell your item directly you could post it with the auction rules.
Place where the item is
If you are auctioning an item you are unable or unwilling to move, you can always state where the item is located. This will prevent a buyer from backing out if the location is not where he/she wants to go.
Snipe rule is 100% wrong....
I playd mrpg for over 6 years been tradeing and auction for that time...
Snipe rule work like this:
Ur ending time is 20:00 and 15 min snipe rule.... thats mean all that has bid in the auction to 20:00 can bid in the snipe rule for 15 min... new ending time is then 20:15..
or else u can bid in ever time and not ending the auction.. and thats not fear for everyone.....
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Eowynn
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Posted - 2004.11.04 14:17:00 -
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Edited by: Eowynn on 04/11/2004 14:20:29
Originally by: Eowynn
I have decided to write a small summary of what is usually expected from an auction on these boards.
(snipped)
Sniper rule
A sniper rule is very important in an auction. A sniper rule means that no matter when the auction is supposed to end, if a bid is put in before the end of the auction, the auction will be extended with the time that was mentioned with the sniper rule.
For example if my auction ends at 22:00 and my sniper rule is 15 minutes. Then if someone offers a new bid at 21:50, the auction lasts 15 minutes from 19:50 onwards, so it will now end at 22:05.
The sniper rule is perhaps not as it should be, but this is the way we have used it on these boards since we started auctioning items here and thus I explained what people expected from a sniper rule here (on these boards). I do not believe it has given any auctions big problems so I think it is best to have the rule explained as I did.
Eowynn
Excelsior Enterprises Tech 2 Sales |
Eowynn
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Posted - 2004.11.04 14:17:00 -
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Edited by: Eowynn on 04/11/2004 14:20:29
Originally by: Eowynn
I have decided to write a small summary of what is usually expected from an auction on these boards.
(snipped)
Sniper rule
A sniper rule is very important in an auction. A sniper rule means that no matter when the auction is supposed to end, if a bid is put in before the end of the auction, the auction will be extended with the time that was mentioned with the sniper rule.
For example if my auction ends at 22:00 and my sniper rule is 15 minutes. Then if someone offers a new bid at 21:50, the auction lasts 15 minutes from 19:50 onwards, so it will now end at 22:05.
The sniper rule is perhaps not as it should be, but this is the way we have used it on these boards since we started auctioning items here and thus I explained what people expected from a sniper rule here (on these boards). I do not believe it has given any auctions big problems so I think it is best to have the rule explained as I did.
Eowynn
Excelsior Enterprises Tech 2 Sales |
Callan Skiderlar
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Posted - 2004.11.18 17:23:00 -
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One other minor point:
If you have a minimum bid, that's effectively the same thing as a reserve, as you are saying that number is the lowest bid you will accept to do the transaction. Saying you have "No Reserve!" but posting a minimum bid is misleading.
Seeing "No Reserve!" in posts with minimum bids irrationally agitates my inner anal retentive freak to a violent mental state.
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Callan Skiderlar
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Posted - 2004.11.18 17:23:00 -
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One other minor point:
If you have a minimum bid, that's effectively the same thing as a reserve, as you are saying that number is the lowest bid you will accept to do the transaction. Saying you have "No Reserve!" but posting a minimum bid is misleading.
Seeing "No Reserve!" in posts with minimum bids irrationally agitates my inner anal retentive freak to a violent mental state.
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"Speech is the foe of mystery, and the pitiless betrayer of the commonplace."
Thomas Mann, Confessions of Felix Krull |
Dianabolic
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Posted - 2004.11.26 08:34:00 -
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Edited by: Dianabolic on 26/11/2004 08:42:42
Following some confusion on this thread, might I suggest that, for future auctions, the time period is deemed to of passed at the END of the 15th minute.
For example, if a bid is entered at 15:00 all bids will be accepted until the clocks state 15:16. This then covers any dilemna over whether it is, indeed, 15 minutes or not (particularly as the forums don't show seconds).
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2004.11.26 08:34:00 -
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Edited by: Dianabolic on 26/11/2004 08:42:42
Following some confusion on this thread, might I suggest that, for future auctions, the time period is deemed to of passed at the END of the 15th minute.
For example, if a bid is entered at 15:00 all bids will be accepted until the clocks state 15:16. This then covers any dilemna over whether it is, indeed, 15 minutes or not (particularly as the forums don't show seconds).
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Karch
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Posted - 2005.01.02 13:24:00 -
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Originally by: Callan Skiderlar
If you have a minimum bid, that's effectively the same thing as a reserve
wrong. ever used ebay? your reserve can be anything you like, you simply state whether the reserve has been met or not as the bids role in.
as for the sniper rule, it is perfect how it is. every auction site in MMO's i have ever played is exactly like this. every bid has 15 minutes attached to it so you can bit until 21:45 without the end time of 22:00 going over, but if someone bids at 21:58 trying to snipe the item, the bid ends at 22:13.
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Muthsera
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Posted - 2005.02.05 02:14:00 -
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Q:
I always imagined the sniper rule to be extended as following.
Ending time 15:00
Sniper rule 15 min.
Ie.
One bids 14:55 new time for ending is now 15:10
But there is a new bid at 15:05, the extention is another 15 min.
After all. Why whould anyone give up more income.
And why whould any potential buyer give up the opertunity to out bid the oponent?
SoonÖ
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kidov Jaund
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Posted - 2005.02.06 18:01:00 -
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Originally by: Muthsera
Q:
I always imagined the sniper rule to be extended as following.
Ending time 15:00
Sniper rule 15 min.
Ie.
One bids 14:55 new time for ending is now 15:10
But there is a new bid at 15:05, the extention is another 15 min.
After all. Why whould anyone give up more income.
And why whould any potential buyer give up the opertunity to out bid the oponent?
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Jack Tyrell
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Posted - 2005.02.16 16:43:00 -
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Hidden reserve - what a nonsense on the forum auction. The seller can change their reserve anytime.
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XkoalaX
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Posted - 2005.02.25 09:39:00 -
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Edited by: XkoalaX on 25/02/2005 09:40:53
Sniperrule I don't have a problem with except its too long. 5 minutes should be fine.
Hidden reserve is not needed. If you want to start lower then your willing to get to part with the object
then clearly state a reserve. It makes a faster and more efficient auction.
What bothers me though is the "under the table bidding". Eve-mail bidding, that doesn't make sense.
That is not an auction, that is a sell.
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Shinca
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Posted - 2005.02.27 08:01:00 -
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Hidden reserve is a joke. It's actualy reserving a right to make up your mind as you go along if you will or won't sell. Personaly I wouldn't bid in an auction with hidden reserve but most people do and so it will remain a part of actions.
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Veil Lord
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Posted - 2005.04.10 23:48:00 -
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I don't think it's that bad.. there are a million other things people can do to avoid selling something below what they think they should be getting for it.
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Sariyah
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Posted - 2005.04.20 15:59:00 -
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I did not get two things here:
1) sniper rule - ok I don't know how *should* this be but I get it how it is used here. But will this rule go for any bid, even the ones that have been posted after the official closing time? Like it will get _another_ 15 mins or whatever it was?
2) reserve - don't know what this means
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Dr Who
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Posted - 2005.04.20 23:40:00 -
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Originally by: Shinca
Hidden reserve is a joke. It's actualy reserving a right to make up your mind as you go along if you will or won't sell. Personaly I wouldn't bid in an auction with hidden reserve but most people do and so it will remain a part of actions.
I could not agree more!!! On a site like E-Bay there is a hidden reserve, but its still "official" in that it has to be entered by the seller brfore the auction begins. The buyer cant see it, but the seller cant change his mind throughout the auction as to what it is. I think hidden reserves need to be made illegal in auctions on the eve forums. All reserves should be visible to everyone.
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Kunming
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Posted - 2005.05.11 01:49:00 -
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Very nice post Eowynn
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justplease
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Posted - 2005.05.25 06:16:00 -
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i think alts should be disallowed... else ppl bid on their own auctions to get higher price.
so when alt bids, the seller can always say the alt made a fake bid and therefor the last bid b4 the alt counts (prolly having a much higher bid compared to a auction without the alt involved...)
hope you get the point...
else alts4tw  mmmmkay
(yes this is alt cos i'm lazy :P )
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symbiont
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Posted - 2005.05.25 11:05:00 -
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Originally by: Sariyah
I did not get two things here:
1) sniper rule - ok I don't know how *should* this be but I get it how it is used here. But will this rule go for any bid, even the ones that have been posted after the official closing time? Like it will get _another_ 15 mins or whatever it was?
2) reserve - don't know what this means
can someone please explain those 2 ? and especially the reserve thingie, which I haven't understood at all ( from your posts that is, since there is no mention of it in the original post)
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Shinca
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Posted - 2005.05.26 18:58:00 -
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Originally by: symbiont
Originally by: Sariyah
I did not get two things here:
1) sniper rule - ok I don't know how *should* this be but I get it how it is used here. But will this rule go for any bid, even the ones that have been posted after the official closing time? Like it will get _another_ 15 mins or whatever it was?
2) reserve - don't know what this means
can someone please explain those 2 ? and especially the reserve thingie, which I haven't understood at all ( from your posts that is, since there is no mention of it in the original post)
As I understand it:
1. sniper rule: for example let's say 15 min... If you bid for the item with less time than 15 min time left, auction won't end at specified time but 15 minutes after the last bid. if you don't have this rule, everyone can wait until the last second and overbid you, not giving you a chance to respond.
2. reserve: this is a set price under which you reserve the right not to sell the item... You can still sell it if you decide the price is OK, it's just that you are not obligated to sell.
hidden reserve: same as reserve, you just don't disclose the ammount... A bit pointless here since there is no mechanism to make sure you don't change the reserve.
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Jacob Sand
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Posted - 2005.06.14 15:09:00 -
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erm, wots a "bump"
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BloodSpoon
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Posted - 2005.06.15 22:30:00 -
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no longer stickied?
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Kris Kelvin
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Posted - 2007.11.05 03:05:00 -
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Can you cancel auction if 'something went'wrong.Like you didn't get what you wanted?
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Cherybol
Caldari
Es and Whizz
Hedonistic Imperative
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Posted - 2007.11.05 04:25:00 -
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Sweet Necro Man.
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Dadamac
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Posted - 2007.11.06 19:39:00 -
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Can auctioner, when I bid his reserve I say 3bil and passed his 15 min.sniper rule as well ,and everything was fine and auction should be finished...He extended auction by 1 day!
Can He extend actioun by another 1 or 2 days?
I think this is not fair!!
Please answer my question
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