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Ugluuk
Caldari
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2009.07.07 22:33:00 -
[91]
 Originally by: kessah
Enjoy the isk, i hated bydi anyways. So hopefully what you did hurt them hard in game.
No need to hate us because you didn`t get into Bydi..
As for the whole corp theft stuff i believe that this post has done it`s duty..The corp theft is known, Maddan will be remembered by the community atleast to the end of this week and Bydi got some ammo and mods to replace..
And to those hoping that this hurt the corp..He stole around 30 bill total and lots of it being mods..Im proud to have many very generous members who have replaced over 20bill so far..
So as it stands now we got more isk than we did before the corp theft because it aint locked up as mods in the hangar anymore..
Thanks guys!
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Ivana Gankalot
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Posted - 2009.07.08 00:00:00 -
[92]
Edited by: Ivana Gankalot on 08/07/2009 00:03:06
Originally by: Ugluuk
Originally by: kessah
Enjoy the isk, i hated bydi anyways. So hopefully what you did hurt them hard in game.
No need to hate us because you didn`t get into Bydi..
As for the whole corp theft stuff i believe that this post has done it`s duty..The corp theft is known, Maddan will be remembered by the community atleast to the end of this week and Bydi got some ammo and mods to replace..
And to those hoping that this hurt the corp..He stole around 30 bill total and lots of it being mods..Im proud to have many very generous members who have replaced over 20bill so far..
So as it stands now we got more isk than we did before the corp theft because it aint locked up as mods in the hangar anymore..
Thanks guys!
they didnt want that isk anyway 
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Maddan69
Blunt Force Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.07.08 00:08:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Ugluuk
Originally by: kessah
Enjoy the isk, i hated bydi anyways. So hopefully what you did hurt them hard in game.
No need to hate us because you didn`t get into Bydi..
As for the whole corp theft stuff i believe that this post has done it`s duty..The corp theft is known, Maddan will be remembered by the community atleast to the end of this week and Bydi got some ammo and mods to replace..
And to those hoping that this hurt the corp..He stole around 30 bill total and lots of it being mods..Im proud to have many very generous members who have replaced over 20bill so far..
So as it stands now we got more isk than we did before the corp theft because it aint locked up as mods in the hangar anymore..
Thanks guys!
Why does the quote, "Yes, Excellent, My work is doneö, comes to mind.
On a serious note I cannot wait to trade some rounds against BYDI now.
No need for the eject / self-destruct buttonà Guns Blazing till you see that pretty blue explosion.
Mad
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kikishi kintaro
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.07.08 00:19:00 -
[94]
Originally by: Ugluuk
Originally by: kessah
Enjoy the isk, i hated bydi anyways. So hopefully what you did hurt them hard in game.
No need to hate us because you didn`t get into Bydi..
that would be a good point , but unless you have never killed anyone in eve ever.
you would not only know bydi are the easyiest corp in eve to get into, but they actually convo you and do the leg work
ive been in gangs where after an engagement agenst bydi every one of us have been privately pm'ed and asked to join.
and just to stright up laugh at you some of those times ive been in gang with kessah when it happened.
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Mr Ignitious
Helljumpers
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Posted - 2009.07.08 00:24:00 -
[95]
Originally by: Maddan69
Originally by: Taram Caldar
Edited by: Taram Caldar on 06/07/2009 15:14:55
A corp thief always tries to justify their actions. In the end, they're still just a corp thief.
Nothing justifies screwing your entire corporation over.
Sorry to hear you guys got screwed. Nothing but respect for BYDI.
Hint to the OP: When a corp changes away from what you joined for you find a new corp and politely say your goodbyes. If you have any class whatsoever. You don't go looting the entire corp to fatten your own wallet.
Quoted just because of fact your a BYDI pet. I was gonna leave peacefully until Vill changed my mind. No need to justify anything I dont even care about the isk.
actually, i think taram is a pretty cool guy - same goes for all of noir =)
I read the forums assuming there are no trolls, only really stupid people.
Originally by: CCP Zulupark
WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU?
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Tanse Miro
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Posted - 2009.07.08 00:41:00 -
[96]
To those of you saying "he was our friend, our corpmate, how could he, yadda, yadda" -- well if he was your friend why did you leave him feeling so bitter?
There are no innocent parties in this story.
To me, a bystander, it simply shows that your corp's leadership has some very poor conflict resolution and people's skills that it is breeding corp thieves among such dedicated members who feel that they have no option of being heard but by acting out like this, and that after doing so much that they have not earned simple respect.
This story demonstrates that leaders of this corp are long overdue for an ego check.
As for Maddan69 you need to learn some of those skills also, so that next corp you join if you are being mistreated and your opinions aren't being heard you don't have to speak out via corp theft. And also quit EVE to remind yourself that it is a game so that if there is that 1 ******* belittling you and not listening to you don't get so bitter as to start waging jihad on entire corp.
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ol gil
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Posted - 2009.07.08 00:47:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Tanse Miro
To those of you saying "he was our friend, our corpmate, how could he, yadda, yadda" -- well if he was your friend why did you leave him feeling so bitter?
There are no innocent parties in this story.
To me, a bystander, it simply shows that your corp's leadership has some very poor conflict resolution and people's skills that it is breeding corp thieves among such dedicated members who feel that they have no option of being heard but by acting out like this, and that after doing so much that they have not earned simple respect.
This story demonstrates that leaders of this corp are long overdue for an ego check.
As for Maddan69 you need to learn some of those skills also, so that next corp you join if you are being mistreated and your opinions aren't being heard you don't have to speak out via corp theft. And also quit EVE to remind yourself that it is a game so that if there is that 1 ******* belittling you and not listening to you don't get so bitter as to start waging jihad on entire corp.
alot of good points made
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Villwrath
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2009.07.08 00:59:00 -
[98]
Edited by: Villwrath on 08/07/2009 01:01:34
Originally by: kikishi kintaro
you would not only know bydi are the easyiest corp in eve to get into, but they actually convo you and do the leg work
ive been in gangs where after an engagement agenst bydi every one of us have been privately pm'ed and asked to join.
You know I hate posting anything on EvE-O unless I feel the absolute need to, and slanderous lies give me good reason.
BYDI is by no means an easy corp to get into, however I guess that depends on your definition of easy. If your an excellent pvp'r, I would assume that most corps are fairly easy to get into, what is this like a RL corporation or something, lol?
The thing that really makes me lol is your remark about people we fight being convo'd and asked to join, that is hilarious.
BYDI recruitment is strictly by solid referral from current members only.
Unless your talking about 4+ years ago, that is how we recruit.
Also for all those saying Maddan was mistreated in this corp, and our corp leadership needs to treat people better, I would just like to say that Maddan was always treated with the utmost of respect, as all of our Directors are.
Don't let his justifications for being greedy confuse you with how we actually operate please.
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Ivan Krukov
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Posted - 2009.07.08 01:58:00 -
[99]
I myself am a corporation thief as well. Props to you Maddan.
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I'Lse Farayh
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Posted - 2009.07.08 04:08:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Villwrath
Edited by: Villwrath on 08/07/2009 01:01:34
Originally by: kikishi kintaro
you would not only know bydi are the easyiest corp in eve to get into, but they actually convo you and do the leg work
ive been in gangs where after an engagement agenst bydi every one of us have been privately pm'ed and asked to join.
BYDI recruitment is strictly by solid referral from current members only.
Unless your talking about 4+ years ago, that is how we recruit.
yes, and you pay your members isk to refer you new ones..
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Villwrath
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2009.07.08 07:44:00 -
[101]
Originally by: I'Lse Farayh
yes, and you pay your members isk to refer you new ones..
Referrals are the safest way for a corp to recruit new talent.
Some of the most successful corps in this game have paid their members for referrals; and why not pay them, they are helping the corp.
Just because someone is referred to us doesn't mean we'll recruit them, and just because they are recruited doesn't mean we're going to keep them past their trial period.
We only pay for those who are recruited AND who become full members, so I don't really see the point of your comment I'Lse, or Maddan's alt, or whoever's alt you are.
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Karlemgne
Tides Of War
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Posted - 2009.07.08 08:30:00 -
[102]
Wow. You don't like the corp situation, rob your friends blind.
Best of luck finding a new corp, kiddo.
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Maddan69
Blunt Force Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.07.08 12:09:00 -
[103]
Edited by: Maddan69 on 08/07/2009 12:09:54
Originally by: Villwrath
We only pay for those who are recruited AND who become full members, so I don't really see the point of your comment I'Lse, or Maddan's alt, or whoever's alt you are.
Paranoid much Vill? You know all my alts. I have no reason to smack against BYDI plus thats not my thing to begin with.
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Udan
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Posted - 2009.07.08 12:20:00 -
[104]
well done man bydi will disband soon I hope
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Kalpaks II
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Posted - 2009.07.08 12:39:00 -
[105]
Its a time to load ammo and remove those BYDI (or whatever they called) remaining poses 
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Verone
Gallente
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2009.07.08 13:35:00 -
[106]
Given the fact that for no real reason [BYDI] hates [VETO] and for the same apparent reason Villwrath has a personal issue with me, I expect to be flamed to high heavens, but what the hell I'll add my two cents.
A corp theft is a corp theft, no matter how you try to spin it. Whether you've been planning it six months or six hours, it's just the same. It's a corp theft.
People who do it are on the bottom rung of the ladder that leads to the top where people such as [GHSC] sit. I mean, lets look at this in terms of Guiding Hand at the other end of the spectrum, who are paid mercs, spend time planning, gathering intel, working hard to infiltrate and shut down a corporation, and are completely open and honest about a heist when they've pulled it off.
A heist is very different to this, a heist has some credit because it's done for a reason and for monetary gain. Then take this, a fumbled attempt at getting your own back because someone shouted at you on Ventrilo and hurt your feelings. Taking stuff you had access to play with and use in the corp because you were a loyal and trusted member.
The fact of the matter is, you're whining about how you didn't want to do it, and about [BYDI] has become a hotdropping corp and how you hate it, and how much you're sorry and love the members. Yet you stole from them? The members you care so much about and apologise for doing so? Because one guy shouted at you on ventrilo and made you sad?
Lets rewind. If you weren't happy with the way things were going in the corp, but loved the members, why not just leave? Why not just say "hey guys, it's been fun but I'm not enjoying things any more, I'm gonna go take a look elsewhere and see what's on offer, have fun, it's been awesome"? Why not try to explain and reason with the corporation to see if things will change? Why not talk to Ug and tell him Villwrath was out of line for screaming at you on voice if you really think so, rather than harming the memberbase you "love so much"?
I guess a lack of thought at the time is a tough thing to swallow, hence all the apologies. Too bad. Damn, I'd EXPECT my Directors to tell people to pipe the feck down and get in line on voice comms, especially those in senior command of the corp. In the end it's a damn game, that's all it boils down to. The stuff in your hangar isn't yours, it belongs to CCP and just as Villwrath said, it's a few numbers in a database somewhere and a few pretty pixels you see on screen. The only thing you've really done is damaged your friendship and trust that's been built up with members of the corporation over the year you've spent in command. Oh, and branded yourself and untrustworthy thief in a game where reputation means everything.
I find your reasoning for ripping [BYDI] off impossible to swallow. I've personally had Villwrath sit and smacktalk me god knows how many times. I laugh it off, as I'm sure he does, because in the end it's a play on words that's used to try and invoke a reaction, nothing more. Just because he has a negative opinion of me inside a game, it doesn't mean I want to punch him in the head or hump his goldfish or whatever as revenge. Hell, I'd probably have a laugh at the crap we've flung at eachother over the years and buy the guy a beer if I ever saw him face to face.
In this case, he's completely right. Every word he posted in his response to you is right. Pixels on a screen that are easily replaced. [BYDI] suffers no humility from this, it's something they can't protect against when a theft happens at such a high level. You on the other hand will start to feel the guilt of betraying friends who've trusted you personally for over a year as soon as the fact that you're not the hand of justice, and nothing more than a common corp thief like a thousand others sinks in.
\o/ EON FICTION WRITER OF 2008! \o/
>>> THE LIFE OF AN OUTLAW <<< |
Verone
Gallente
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2009.07.08 13:36:00 -
[107]
[BYDI] will bounce back from this, and while I don't agree that capitals are a "requirement" to play Eve today (we still don't feel the need to field them after three and a half years of constant PvP), I do agree with the sentiment that [BYDI] have a strong leadership structure and a group of skilled pilots who won't have an issue recovering from a small theft like this.
In the end, you stole 30 billion, which can probably be replaced by a corp with the number of members [BYDI] has in a month. On the flip side, you gave up your place in an established, competently lead corporation with people who have a Solid knowledge of Eve and it's workings. You also lost friends you've flown with for years, for no other reason than your own selfish greed and will to make a quick few bucks to get back at someone for shouting at you on Ventrilo.
On the other hand, they still have a corporation, the same group of friends they always have, and if anything their bonds are stronger now that they've seen what one bad egg in the basket can do.
You come here chestbeating, yet you're the loser in this situation not Beyond Divinity. The sooner you shape up and realise it, the sooner you'll pull your thumb out of your ass and realise what a stupid mistake you made while you were boohooing like a spoiled kid over being shouted at on Vent.
\o/ EON FICTION WRITER OF 2008! \o/
>>> THE LIFE OF AN OUTLAW <<< |
Ryu Sorak
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Posted - 2009.07.08 13:48:00 -
[108]
bydi has like 100 ppl so if they all worked irl 4 1 hr thats like 700 dollars rite there n they can buy 30b easily w/ 700 dollars
so is 1 hr worth of work 4 ur corp worth of all of that ???
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Maddan69
Blunt Force Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.07.08 13:53:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Verone
You come here chestbeating, yet you're the loser in this situation not Beyond Divinity. The sooner you shape up and realise it, the sooner you'll pull your thumb out of your ass and realise what a stupid mistake you made while you were boohooing like a spoiled kid over being shouted at on Vent.
I dont believe it was a stupid mistake at all tbh. How am I the loser in this situation? People treat this game as a second job, I donÆt, I log on to pvp to see those internet spaceships go pew pew at each other. Thats it. Drama is drama which should be saved for RL not intertwined with a virtual game made up of pixels as you call it. Vill belittled me, I had enough and I did what I did. Was it the right thing to do? Probably not but hell might as well go out with a bang.
Now I am free of the bonds I had been under and I for one feel amazing. I will let the EVE current take me to new places to meet new people because after all this is just a video game.
Mad
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Verone
Gallente
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2009.07.08 13:58:00 -
[110]
Originally by: Maddan69
How am I the loser in this situation?
Was it the right thing to do? Probably not but hell might as well go out with a bang.
Now I am free of the bonds I had been under and I for one feel amazing.
Give it time.
\o/ EON FICTION WRITER OF 2008! \o/
>>> THE LIFE OF AN OUTLAW <<< |
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Maddan69
Blunt Force Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.07.08 14:06:00 -
[111]
Originally by: Verone
Originally by: Maddan69
How am I the loser in this situation?
Was it the right thing to do? Probably not but hell might as well go out with a bang.
Now I am free of the bonds I had been under and I for one feel amazing.
Give it time.
Give exactly what time? Do you honestly believe I am going to have an emotional breakdown over this? If you do, I think its time you took a break from the game called ôEVEö.
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Verone
Gallente
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2009.07.08 14:09:00 -
[112]
Originally by: Maddan69
Originally by: Verone
Originally by: Maddan69
How am I the loser in this situation?
Was it the right thing to do? Probably not but hell might as well go out with a bang.
Now I am free of the bonds I had been under and I for one feel amazing.
Give it time.
Give exactly what time? Do you honestly believe I am going to have an emotional breakdown over this? If you do, I think its time you took a break from the game called ôEVEö.
hahaha
\o/ EON FICTION WRITER OF 2008! \o/
>>> THE LIFE OF AN OUTLAW <<< |
omplapa
Caldari
R.A.G.N.A.R.O.K.
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Posted - 2009.07.08 14:10:00 -
[113]
Originally by: Maddan69
Originally by: Verone
You come here chestbeating, yet you're the loser in this situation not Beyond Divinity. The sooner you shape up and realise it, the sooner you'll pull your thumb out of your ass and realise what a stupid mistake you made while you were boohooing like a spoiled kid over being shouted at on Vent.
I dont believe it was a stupid mistake at all tbh. How am I the loser in this situation? People treat this game as a second job, I donÆt, I log on to pvp to see those internet spaceships go pew pew at each other. Thats it. Drama is drama which should be saved for RL not intertwined with a virtual game made up of pixels as you call it. Vill belittled me, I had enough and I did what I did. Was it the right thing to do? Probably not but hell might as well go out with a bang.
Now I am free of the bonds I had been under and I for one feel amazing. I will let the EVE current take me to new places to meet new people because after all this is just a video game.
Mad
i dont buy that.
you logged in over the years not only to pvp but to pvp with the friends you liked and liked you back.
now the friends are gone cause you was the type of friend that stole from your buddys wallet.
join a new corp?? i will be very surprised if you find a corp that someone in bydi doesnt know a director from ,so you will never feel safe with those "new friends" cause you might been set up for a "drop" anytime 
now punk!! ask yourself,do you feel lucky? 
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RedSplat
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.07.08 14:13:00 -
[114]
Edited by: RedSplat on 08/07/2009 14:13:49
You'll regret it when you realize that isk cant buy back what you lost.
and thats why i draw the line at corp theft; hell, i've joined corps before just to scam them and discovered i like them too much 
Originally by: CCP Mitnal
I don't sleep.
I am always here.
Watching.
Waiting.
Originally by: CCP Mitnal
it does get progressively longer.
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Maddan69
Blunt Force Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.07.08 14:15:00 -
[115]
Originally by: Verone
Originally by: Maddan69
Originally by: Verone
Originally by: Maddan69
How am I the loser in this situation?
Was it the right thing to do? Probably not but hell might as well go out with a bang.
Now I am free of the bonds I had been under and I for one feel amazing.
Give it time.
Give exactly what time? Do you honestly believe I am going to have an emotional breakdown over this? If you do, I think its time you took a break from the game called ôEVEö.
hahaha
Classic Verone. Now back under your rock. Good Boy
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Ryu Sorak
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Posted - 2009.07.08 14:16:00 -
[116]
atleast we now know whos gonna rot in hell
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kikishi kintaro
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.07.08 14:22:00 -
[117]
Originally by: Maddan69
Originally by: Verone
Originally by: Maddan69
Originally by: Verone
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Classic Verone. Now back under your rock. Good Boy
now that the high horse has finsihed, i have to point out 1 flaw in everyones complaints
as with most great scams,maddan has taken not only enough infamy to be turned away from most prominant corps in eve ,but the isk to buy and play a new char till all this blows over , maybe a year, and enough isk to plex that char for that year, and still pleanty to party down
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Maddan69
Blunt Force Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.07.08 14:35:00 -
[118]
Originally by: kikishi kintaro
Now that the high horse has finsihed, i have to point out 1 flaw in everyones complaints
As with most great scams,maddan has taken not only enough infamy to be turned away from most prominant corps in eve ,but the isk to buy and play a new char till all this blows over , maybe a year, and enough isk to plex that char for that year, and still pleanty to party down
See now this is where your wrong my friend. I will continue to use Mad no need to make another character. Before this fiasco I never stole / scammed anyone in my EVE career and now after the fiasco I will continue to do just that.
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kikishi kintaro
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.07.08 14:43:00 -
[119]
Edited by: kikishi kintaro on 08/07/2009 14:44:31
Originally by: Maddan69
Originally by: kikishi kintaro
Now that the high horse has finsihed, i have to point out 1 flaw in everyones complaints
As with most great scams,maddan has taken not only enough infamy to be turned away from most prominant corps in eve ,but the isk to buy and play a new char till all this blows over , maybe a year, and enough isk to plex that char for that year, and still pleanty to party down
See now this is where your wrong my friend. I will continue to use Mad no need to make another character. Before this fiasco I never stole / scammed anyone in my EVE career and now after the fiasco I will continue to do just that.
well i personally do belive you, and i disagree with the way alot of the old pirate corps are being run these days.
how can someone pirate for a profit when the loots is being split more than 10 ways
its all these 0.0 heads with there alts getting other sources of income, wanting to play pirate thats killing lo-sec imo
\rant off
but sadly i will agree with the masses on this one,
in eve
you lose isk, ships, pods, clones ,implants power reigons, the only thing you keep is your word
now agreeing wih your point of view i dont feel you have broken your word,(i know im bias) but all the tl:dr ceo's out there will read maddan69=corp theif what ever the story might be
sadly eve is a game where a man can be judged by only his actions not by his intentions
edit:\ typo
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Crazy Tasty
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2009.07.08 14:49:00 -
[120]
/thread already, Bydi got over this 3 days ago, everyone else should to.
Lulz at the attempted smack though.
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