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Maddan69 Blunt Force Syndicate	Posted - 2009.07.06 14:00:00 - [1] On Saturday the 4th of 2009 I walked away with roughly 30b in liquid isk / assets. For the past 4 months I had been debating on leaving the corp to do something better with myself but at the time I believed I could salvage what I believed the old BYDI stood for. I was wrong. For all the good Villwrath has done for the corp he has turned the corp into a banner I cannot fly under anymore. Ug should have closed the corp 6 months ago because BYDI isnt BYDI anymore. ItÆs more like Vill's corp and none elses. I had been in corp for 18 months pretty much bending over backwards for every single member. I took care of all the loot sales and managed all the corp hangars. I never took any isk from sales because I actually enjoyed doing what I did. Everyone who flew under my wing knew that I could lead them in the right direction because EVE is like second nature to me. I think my own statistics speak for themselves: http://bydi.griefwatch.net/?p=pilot&pilot=Maddan69 A lot of members believe I have been planning this heist for months but thatÆs not even close to being true. Thursday night we were just doing our usual camp / roam when Vill decided to belittle me over coms and director chat over something ridiculous stupid. This was my breaking point. I logged off a half hour later went to sleep and woke up the next morning and went to town. Took 1 hour with another hour just for VillÆs invention pos which I thoroughly enjoyed taking down. BYDI owns 8 cad moons of which I could have easily took but I felt I had done enough. I am sorry to the pilots that trusted me the most so this goes out to Crazy, Dagan, Monica, Bacci, Juan, Muad, Oso, and Ug. There is a lot more names to mention but you guys know who you are. If anyone wants a copy of all BYDI tacticals, images of POS defences plus POS locations, and Cap List send Maddan69 an evemail. I like to quote something before I go: ôSurvival of the fittest is the law of nature. We deceive or we are deceived. Thus, we flourish or perish. Nothing good ever happened to me when I trusted others. That is the lesson. See you in Space, Cowboy.ö Mad
RedSplat Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2009.07.06 14:22:00 - [2] Cool Story Bro But really, why not stage a coup? Originally by: CCP Mitnal I don't sleep. I am always here. Watching. Waiting. Originally by: CCP Mitnal it does get progressively longer.
oodin Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2009.07.06 14:25:00 - [3] sad to see this today when i logged on after a week of summer,beer,music festival and chicks maddan,but its just a game but please dont come on here pretending you was stepped on soooo badly you had to do this. a old bydi member was returning to bydi that you didnt like so you went and cleaned out the assets in a emoragequit we respected and we loved you so if you felt mistreated you should have said so BUT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DID YOU HAVE TO TAKE ALL THE DESSYS FOR THE "HULKAMANIA"???
oodin Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2009.07.06 14:27:00 - [4] PS.bydi tacticals??? you know that we allways start chearing when someone is probing us out
Jonny 101 Endemic Aggression Exalted.	Posted - 2009.07.06 14:51:00 - [5] Did you steal the cap 800s aswell or did you leave them?
Maddan69 Blunt Force Syndicate	Posted - 2009.07.06 15:12:00 - [6] Originally by: Jonny 101 Did you steal the cap 800s aswell or did you leave them? I cleaned house on everything. Cap 800 were melted into minerals of course.
Taram Caldar Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2009.07.06 15:13:00 - [7] Edited by: Taram Caldar on 06/07/2009 15:14:55 A corp thief always tries to justify their actions. In the end, they're still just a corp thief. Nothing justifies screwing your entire corporation over. Sorry to hear you guys got screwed. Nothing but respect for BYDI. Hint to the OP: When a corp changes away from what you joined for you find a new corp and politely say your goodbyes. If you have any class whatsoever. You don't go looting the entire corp to fatten your own wallet.
Maddan69 Blunt Force Syndicate	Posted - 2009.07.06 15:31:00 - [8] Originally by: Taram Caldar Edited by: Taram Caldar on 06/07/2009 15:14:55 A corp thief always tries to justify their actions. In the end, they're still just a corp thief. Nothing justifies screwing your entire corporation over. Sorry to hear you guys got screwed. Nothing but respect for BYDI. Hint to the OP: When a corp changes away from what you joined for you find a new corp and politely say your goodbyes. If you have any class whatsoever. You don't go looting the entire corp to fatten your own wallet. Quoted just because of fact your a BYDI pet. I was gonna leave peacefully until Vill changed my mind. No need to justify anything I dont even care about the isk.
Morgan La'Chance Caldari Dynamic Reallocation and Logistics	Posted - 2009.07.06 15:47:00 - [9] Why, exactly, would he leave gracefully? There's no reason to. I do find this pretty graceful though - no swearing, no impotent rage, but just a nice and clean assets sweep. If a CEO treats a contributing member badly, then this is how that member can have his revenge. Maddan is not at fault here.
MMoroz Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2009.07.06 16:01:00 - [10] Lol what a drama, grow some balls Maddan( thought better about you ), stop whining and excuses, you stole our stuff - ** happens, but stop making this stupid excuses be a man. If you had a problem with what is going with corp, you should bring it up, give us your ideas. Never saw you do anything like that, how you even ever tried to tell Vill to stfu and tell him what you dislike? I am guessing no. Dude seriously what were you doing in this corp for last 6 months if you disliked it so much ( this is game, we are playing this for fun - i think ). So stop this emorage and have fun, if you bring some friends to fight us i will even forget about this emo- P.S. If anyone wants our tacticals and all that other info-**, you can simply ask us - thought everyone knew it( ofc we are lazy, so don`t get your hopes up )

Crazy Tasty Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2009.07.06 16:04:00 - [11] Drama BOMB , we're validated guys, this is like the Paris Hilton sex tape, you're not cool till you've got one out there. Really though Mad, you're just getting off on the smack or something now. **ed at one guy and you go and screw over your boys? Lol, now offering up tacticals and cap list? Looking more and more like the emoragequit broheim. Ah well, internet spaceship game, last I checked we've put up over 44B in kills so far this month, I'd say we're still doing fine. Have fun and enjoy the isk. ------ // This is by design. When a ship jumps through a gate, it clears all aggression. // - BH ****** Pew on gate, if it gets hot, jump through and Ctrl-Q. Game mechanic endorsed by CCP.
Jones Bones Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2009.07.06 16:07:00 - [12] Edited by: Jones Bones on 06/07/2009 16:11:57 I <3 my BYDI bros. =================== Go Bucks!
Maddan69 Blunt Force Syndicate	Posted - 2009.07.06 16:15:00 - [13] Originally by: MMoroz Lol what a drama, grow some balls Maddan( thought better about you ), stop whining and excuses, you stole our stuff - ** happens, but stop making this stupid excuses be a man. If you had a problem with what is going with corp, you should bring it up, give us your ideas. Never saw you do anything like that, how you even ever tried to tell Vill to stfu and tell him what you dislike? I am guessing no. Dude seriously what were you doing in this corp for last 6 months if you disliked it so much ( this is game, we are playing this for fun - i think ). So stop this emorage and have fun, if you bring some friends to fight us i will even forget about this emo- P.S. If anyone wants our tacticals and all that other info-**, you can simply ask us - thought everyone knew it( ofc we are lazy, so don`t get your hopes up ) Sigh in no shape or form have I Emorage/quit and I always have fun, just BYDI isnÆt the place anymore for that. Being a member of BYDI meant you knew who your comrades were off and on the field of battle. You knew the people you flew with their strengths their weaknesses for the past few months that has all changed. Vill went on a rampant hiring spree turning this corp not into a small gang warfare corp but into more like an alliance who solo purpose is to produce meat shields. I have plenty of ideas but all of them are the exact opposite of what VillÆs vision is for corp. He would never listen hence why I say itÆs not UgÆs corp anymore its Vills. For those that know me I donÆt smack I think logical.
oodin Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2009.07.06 16:17:00 - [14] Originally by: Maddan69 I was gonna leave peacefully until Vill changed my mind. No need to justify anything I dont even care about the isk. well if you dont care about the isk then i suggest you donate them to ugluuk so he gets a nice surprise when he returns to active duty again
Maddan69 Blunt Force Syndicate	Posted - 2009.07.06 16:30:00 - [15] Originally by: oodin Originally by: Maddan69 I was gonna leave peacefully until Vill changed my mind. No need to justify anything I dont even care about the isk. well if you dont care about the isk then i suggest you donate them to ugluuk so he gets a nice surprise when he returns to active duty again You of all people shouldnt be telling me what to do with the isk.. Everyone knows oodin and Villwrath are also both corp theives... Now that you know.. Knowing is half the battle.. lol
Muad' Dib Gallente Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2009.07.06 16:41:00 - [16] Originally by: Maddan69 On Saturday the 4th of 2009 I walked away with roughly 30b in liquid isk / assets. For the past 4 months I had been debating on leaving the corp to do something better with myself but at the time I believed I could salvage what I believed the old BYDI stood for. I was wrong. For all the good Villwrath has done for the corp he has turned the corp into a banner I cannot fly under anymore. Ug should have closed the corp 6 months ago because BYDI isnt BYDI anymore. ItÆs more like Vill's corp and none elses. I had been in corp for 18 months pretty much bending over backwards for every single member. I took care of all the loot sales and managed all the corp hangars. I never took any isk from sales because I actually enjoyed doing what I did. Everyone who flew under my wing knew that I could lead them in the right direction because EVE is like second nature to me. I think my own statistics speak for themselves: http://bydi.griefwatch.net/?p=pilot&pilot=Maddan69 A lot of members believe I have been planning this heist for months but thatÆs not even close to being true. Thursday night we were just doing our usual camp / roam when Vill decided to belittle me over coms and director chat over something ridiculous stupid. This was my breaking point. I logged off a half hour later went to sleep and woke up the next morning and went to town. Took 1 hour with another hour just for VillÆs invention pos which I thoroughly enjoyed taking down. BYDI owns 8 cad moons of which I could have easily took but I felt I had done enough. I am sorry to the pilots that trusted me the most so this goes out to Crazy, Dagan, Monica, Bacci, Juan, Muad, Oso, and Ug. There is a lot more names to mention but you guys know who you are. If anyone wants a copy of all BYDI tacticals, images of POS defences plus POS locations, and Cap List send Maddan69 an evemail. I like to quote something before I go: ôSurvival of the fittest is the law of nature. We deceive or we are deceived. Thus, we flourish or perish. Nothing good ever happened to me when I trusted others. That is the lesson. See you in Space, Cowboy.ö Mad You sure feel sorry about it. I told you before, the biggest loss is the fact that we lost a very active and good director - good at least from the management pov. PS: Did you really have to take the Hulkamania fits ? You know they were worth very little. :( --- I smack just for myself. * Your signature file is to large. Please note: we do not allow signature files larger than 24000 bytes - Fallout
Dirk Magnum Royal Hiigaran Navy SCUM.	Posted - 2009.07.06 16:42:00 - [17] Edited by: Dirk Magnum on 06/07/2009 16:42:42 Several of my old corpmates are in BYDI. I considered that corp to be a possible option in the event RHN implodes. This theft is most unfortunate
Ugluuk Caldari Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2009.07.06 16:44:00 - [18] As Ceo of Beyond Divinity i can might aswell throw in some words.. Before the comments about Maddan being cool and Maddan being a ****** comes i can tell people about him.. Maddan69 was one of the most loyal and dedicated members the corp have had.. He is one of those that join your corp and instantly show you that he has leadership qualities besides great skills as pvp pilot.. He did the jobs we gave him and also asked if he could do the little extra that others slacked on.. When he got promoted to director he had control over loot and sales and kept everything in top shape.. He has never been a guy that complains and his personality made me often turn to him to get advices on ideas i had.. So now you guys atleast know how important he has been for the corp and if you are confused about why he robbed us then im just as confused as you.. This is a corp theft we coldn`t protect ourselfes against..You dont think a second about a pilot that has had 2946 kills for the corp and been handling director stuff for a year will rob you.. But it happened and that`s that.. Bydi never had isk before and i think it is best that way.. Maddan got himself some money but he lost many friends that valued him highly in BYDI..Isk can always be replaced.. As a side note: we all know that the way BYDI played this game in the past is not an option anymore..We used to go into any fight for fun but in these times with rigs that cost the same as the ship and expensive clones you cant keep up with the losses if your wallet aint fat.. Unfortunately Eve has moved on and so has BYDI..We no longer suicide big amounts of battleships.. Good luck in the future tho mate and if you want a chat then convo me..
Hoo Is	Posted - 2009.07.06 17:06:00 - [19] BYDI is fail anyway... you did them a favor
Mhorbaine Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2009.07.06 17:08:00 - [20] Edited by: Mhorbaine on 06/07/2009 17:09:28 my tuppence worth... Whilst me n you havent always seen eye to eye on fits/ship usage/losses etc I still am struggling to believe that you actually did this lot :) Overall the stuff in the corp is always there as a slush fund so its not gonnae hugely affect the way we fly, after all the criteria to join is that your self-suffient isk wise.... sure it'll hurt if we loose caps but that doesnt happen everyday and within a month i'm sure it'll all of been replaced. The one thing that i've had a hard time understanding is why u cleaned up the corps stuff... sure some people may argue that vill is the driving force behind the corp at the moment & as such taking everything hurts him most but i wouldnt aggree... you kno well enough that without people like urself, muad, bacci, crazy, uggi, monica & other BYDI boyos that the corp wouldnt be where it is today... that cash was generated as much by their blood, sweat and bottled carebear tears as vills... Nyways i digress - best of luck i guess in the future, next time try n not give me such a scare to log the brothel in to find it sittin in freespace without the pos around it :D Ninja edit: the biggest loss out of all this lot tbh is urself... poor old muads gonnae go nuts organising everything on his own... i'm takin bets of 3months till he has a nervous breakdown n we discover just how many alts comprise his personal army :)

Kylira Ulfrinn Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2009.07.06 17:32:00 - [21] Give the isk to me and I will distribute it fairly.
oodin Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2009.07.06 17:46:00 - [22] Originally by: Maddan69 Originally by: oodin Originally by: Maddan69 I was gonna leave peacefully until Vill changed my mind. No need to justify anything I dont even care about the isk. well if you dont care about the isk then i suggest you donate them to ugluuk so he gets a nice surprise when he returns to active duty again You of all people shouldnt be telling me what to do with the isk.. Everyone knows oodin and Villwrath are also both corp theives... Now that you know.. Knowing is half the battle.. lol cmon maddan dont compare my 11 days in swigg to your over 2 years in bydi..i was with strangers there but you was with friends.. besides i donated alot of stuff that was leeroyed by bydi pilots from my "uberheist"
Taram Caldar Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2009.07.06 17:49:00 - [23] Edited by: Taram Caldar on 06/07/2009 17:52:26 Originally by: Maddan69 Originally by: Taram Caldar Edited by: Taram Caldar on 06/07/2009 15:14:55 A corp thief always tries to justify their actions. In the end, they're still just a corp thief. Nothing justifies screwing your entire corporation over. Sorry to hear you guys got screwed. Nothing but respect for BYDI. Hint to the OP: When a corp changes away from what you joined for you find a new corp and politely say your goodbyes. If you have any class whatsoever. You don't go looting the entire corp to fatten your own wallet. Quoted just because of fact your a BYDI pet. I was gonna leave peacefully until Vill changed my mind. No need to justify anything I dont even care about the isk. Confirming a empire based Merc corp needs to be someone's "pet" in order to ... what was it again that you said we were pets for?
Alekseyev Karrde Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2009.07.06 17:57:00 - [24] We need to be pets to point out the fact he's a scumbag Taram, do keep up. --- Zombie Apocalypse Guitar-Wielding Superteam
Villwrath Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2009.07.06 17:58:00 - [25] Originally by: Maddan69 I have plenty of ideas but all of them are the exact opposite of what VillÆs vision is for corp. He would never listen hence why I say itÆs not UgÆs corp anymore its Vills. For those that know me I donÆt smack I think logical. Due to your continued ranting of the situation, I can see that the guilt hasn't fully settled in yet Maddan. Give it time, it takes time. You can make all the excuses you want about how the corp wasn't going you way, Vill runs this corp and he would never listen to me anyhow but we all know it's complete bs. This is not my corp. This is not Ug's corp. This is ALL of ours corp, down to every last member we have, and I have done everything in my power since I've been here to make it so. If your going to stand here and say that I solely run this corp, and I don't listen to my other directors or members for ideas then your just a flat out liar. I'd hate to let you in on this Maddan, but most of the best ideas we get are from other directors and other members. The fact that you simply never came to me and told me how you felt, or gave me any ideas is your problem, not mine. I'm not a mind reader, and I had no idea you felt this way about the corp, or myself personally. I think this came as much a shock to me as all the other corpmates who trusted you for years. Piece of advice for you in the future; grow some balls, become a man, and learn how to speak up for yourself instead of bottling it all up inside and assuming that no one wants to listen to you. Fact of the matter is I try my best to make sure that all of our leadership is equally involved in running this corp, but in the end, as we all know, it's up to each individual director to take on as much involvement as he wants to. Ya you sold loot once every 6 weeks without taking a cut because you "enjoyed it"(as you said), so I suppose for that the corp owes you 30 Billion ISK right? How many times did I want your opinion on something and get the answer "I don't care, or whatever you wanna do." Plenty. How many times did I ask you to help me with something and get "Can't do it, I gotta go kill ****!", just as many. Don't act like you did anymore for this corp than anyone else did, or that your opinion wasn't valued, because we all know the truth. I don't blame you for putting this on me Maddan; every crook needs a scapegoat and a cover story to justify his actions. No one wants to look like the bad guy, that's just human nature. I look at it this way, we paid 30 Billion to get rid of you, and imo that was ISK very well spent. The assets and the ISK you stole will be easily replaced, it's just numbers on a database, pixels on our screens. The admiration, trust and friendship you built up in this corp over the years that you just lost can never be replaced. For that, and for the guilt you will soon feel, should be punishment enough.
RuleoftheBone Minmatar THE C0RP	Posted - 2009.07.06 18:10:00 - [26] Originally by: Maddan69 On Saturday the 4th of 2009 I walked away with roughly 30b in liquid isk / assets. On Saturday the 4th of 2009 I walked away with roughly 30b in liquid isk / assets. On Saturday the 4th of 2009 I walked away with roughly 30b in liquid isk / assets. Corp thief. End of. Bet you are regretting it now. Shame it happened to BYDI.
Maddan69 Blunt Force Syndicate	Posted - 2009.07.06 18:14:00 - [27] Originally by: Villwrath For that, and for the guilt you will soon feel, should be punishment enough. Guilt? Its a video game meant to be played like one. GG? Ninja Fake Edit: I wish I could hear the ranting you must have been doing over the past few days. Also someone who was a corp theif lecturing someone about theifing is just...
Ashley Sky Guiding Hand Social Club	Posted - 2009.07.06 18:14:00 - [28] The tears in this thread are so sweet. Mmm yes, so sweet. Let me tell you something, Vill... It takes maturity not to get upset over losing fake stuff. You got called out, so learn from the experience. Maddan69, if you start feeling guilt I can help you get through it. Call up Ashley's counseling service. I'll teach you to perpetrate the worst evils with a smile on your face.
murder one Gallente Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS	Posted - 2009.07.06 18:23:00 - [29] Originally by: Villwrath I look at it this way, we paid 30 Billion to get rid of you, and imo that was ISK very well spent. The assets and the ISK you stole will be easily replaced, it's just numbers on a database, pixels on our screens. The admiration, trust and friendship you built up in this corp over the years that you just lost can never be replaced. For that, and for the guilt you will soon feel, should be punishment enough. Well said. -murder one [07:13:55] doctorstupid2 > what do i train now? [07:14:05] Trista Rotnor > little boys to 2
Jonny 101 Endemic Aggression Exalted.	Posted - 2009.07.06 18:38:00 - [30] Originally by: Maddan69 Originally by: Jonny 101 Did you steal the cap 800s aswell or did you leave them? I cleaned house on everything. Cap 800 were melted into minerals of course. Then you're the lowest form of life in eve and there is -no- excuse for your actions, filth.

Maddan69 Blunt Force Syndicate	Posted - 2009.07.06 18:49:00 - [31] Originally by: Jonny 101 Originally by: Maddan69 Originally by: Jonny 101 Did you steal the cap 800s aswell or did you leave them? I cleaned house on everything. Cap 800 were melted into minerals of course. Then you're the lowest form of life in eve and there is -no- excuse for your actions, filth. Ohh Noes... Can I haz the soap please? On a serious note I had no idea there was a ranking system of EVE life forms, please do share. Also do I catch a glimps of a roleplayer in ye eyes?
Venetian Tar The 0ri Sc0rched Earth	Posted - 2009.07.06 19:00:00 - [32] Meh, I don't really care what the rest of these people say, but nice haul ~~~ Please resize your ***** to the maximum size of 2 meters. Zymurgist Wait, what?
Muad' Dib Gallente Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2009.07.06 19:05:00 - [33] Originally by: Maddan69 Originally by: Villwrath For that, and for the guilt you will soon feel, should be punishment enough. Guilt? Its a video game meant to be played like one. GG? Ninja Fake Edit: I wish I could hear the ranting you must have been doing over the past few days. Also someone who was a corp theif lecturing someone about theifing is just... There was no ranting ... really. --- I smack just for myself. * Your signature file is to large. Please note: we do not allow signature files larger than 24000 bytes - Fallout
Maddan69 Blunt Force Syndicate	Posted - 2009.07.06 19:07:00 - [34] Originally by: Muad' Dib Originally by: Maddan69 Originally by: Villwrath For that, and for the guilt you will soon feel, should be punishment enough. Guilt? Its a video game meant to be played like one. GG? Ninja Fake Edit: I wish I could hear the ranting you must have been doing over the past few days. Also someone who was a corp theif lecturing someone about theifing is just... There was no ranting ... really. Lies... Vill not ranting about something is like a prositute not putting out on the first date.
Muad' Dib Gallente Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2009.07.06 19:31:00 - [35] Originally by: Maddan69 Originally by: Muad' Dib Originally by: Maddan69 Originally by: Villwrath For that, and for the guilt you will soon feel, should be punishment enough. Guilt? Its a video game meant to be played like one. GG? Ninja Fake Edit: I wish I could hear the ranting you must have been doing over the past few days. Also someone who was a corp theif lecturing someone about theifing is just... There was no ranting ... really. Lies... Vill not ranting about something is like a prositute not putting out on the first date. I said no ranting in the corp overall. The overall feeling is dissapointment, and we already have some plans to compensate. I was ***ed for a while, but mostly because on a saturday evening you say 'oh, have a happy 4th' and go partying while i have to go to Jita for cap boosters and other consumables. PS: We're doing Hulkamania atm. --- I smack just for myself. Your signature file is to large. Please note: we do not allow signature files larger than 24000 bytes - Fallout
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2009.07.06 19:51:00 - [36] Originally by: Maddan69 Juan, Juan
Hoo Is	Posted - 2009.07.06 20:00:00 - [37] you should have stole it all and listed it for sale at the base you stole it from. Then you get to save the transaction history of them buying stuff back from you :)
Oso Mafioso Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2009.07.06 20:35:00 - [38] Originally by: Maddan69 On Saturday the 4th of 2009 I walked away with roughly 30b in liquid isk / assets. Well I supposed I should discuss my feelings on this matter since the rest of the BYDI Directors are doing so as well. Maddan69 was one of our most respected, admired and trusted members for a long time, not to mention one that I felt I could honestly call my "friend". He was with our corp for almost 2 full years and in that time he proved to be everything that a serious pvp corp would be looking for in a member. When I logged in this past Saturday to find out what happened and why, I was in utter disbelief. The main thing that upsets me isn't the 30 bil loss we took, but the loss of not just an awesome pilot, but a trusted friend and director as well. Originally by: Maddan69 ItÆs more like Vill's corp and none elses. Gonna have to disagree with you on this one Mad. Although Vill has been taking a much more active stance as far as the corp is concerned, like he said, this is OUR corp and wether you know it or not, I personally as a director have made decisions that have resulted in where we are at today. When we decided to move away from Prism and get to a more active area, that was me. It was as simple as bringing it up to Ug, Vill and the rest of the directors to get it done. I really can't recall many situations where you have strongly voiced your opinion and if you truly feel that BYDI is or has been going in the wrong direction, all you really needed to do was stand up and say something. Originally by: Taram Caldar Not like it matters. Sounds like BYDI is taking it in stride to me. You couldn't be more right in your words Taram because the truth of the matter is we have, in just a matter of two days, replaced all that was lost as far as isk and assets are concerned due to some major contributions from some of our corp mates. Originally by: Maddan69 I am sorry to the pilots that trusted me the most so this goes out to Crazy, Dagan, Monica, Bacci, Juan, Muad, Oso, and Ug. There is a lot more names to mention but you guys know who you are. Maddan, I know that you did not intentionally do this to screw over those listed above but the fact of the matter is that you took an issue between you and vill and turned it into an entire BYDI slap in the face. We have all done for as you have done for us in the past and none of us deserved this. although I understand that this is just a game, the fact remains that you create ties and bonds with those in this game and those ties and bonds are now forever broken. I'm gonna finish off by saying that I don't hate Maddan whatsoever but I do hate what he did to people who looked to him for a better way to enjoy this game. All I can hope for you is that you find a corp who is as supportive as we are and ultimately get whatever it is that you are looking for out of this game. Cheers.
Ohh Yeah	Posted - 2009.07.06 20:36:00 - [39] Originally by: Villwrath Originally by: Maddan69 I have plenty of ideas but all of them are the exact opposite of what VillÆs vision is for corp. He would never listen hence why I say itÆs not UgÆs corp anymore its Vills. For those that know me I donÆt smack I think logical. Due to your continued ranting of the situation, I can see that the guilt hasn't fully settled in yet Maddan. Give it time, it takes time. You can make all the excuses you want about how the corp wasn't going you way, Vill runs this corp and he would never listen to me anyhow but we all know it's complete bs. This is not my corp. This is not Ug's corp. This is ALL of ours corp, down to every last member we have, and I have done everything in my power since I've been here to make it so. If your going to stand here and say that I solely run this corp, and I don't listen to my other directors or members for ideas then your just a flat out liar. I'd hate to let you in on this Maddan, but most of the best ideas we get are from other directors and other members. The fact that you simply never came to me and told me how you felt, or gave me any ideas is your problem, not mine. I'm not a mind reader, and I had no idea you felt this way about the corp, or myself personally. I think this came as much a shock to me as all the other corpmates who trusted you for years. Piece of advice for you in the future; grow some balls, become a man, and learn how to speak up for yourself instead of bottling it all up inside and assuming that no one wants to listen to you. Fact of the matter is I try my best to make sure that all of our leadership is equally involved in running this corp, but in the end, as we all know, it's up to each individual director to take on as much involvement as he wants to. Ya you sold loot once every 6 weeks without taking a cut because you "enjoyed it"(as you said), so I suppose for that the corp owes you 30 Billion ISK right? How many times did I want your opinion on something and get the answer "I don't care, or whatever you wanna do." Plenty. How many times did I ask you to help me with something and get "Can't do it, I gotta go kill ****!", just as many. Don't act like you did anymore for this corp than anyone else did, or that your opinion wasn't valued, because we all know the truth. I don't blame you for putting this on me Maddan; every crook needs a scapegoat and a cover story to justify his actions. No one wants to look like the bad guy, that's just human nature. I look at it this way, we paid 30 Billion to get rid of you, and imo that was ISK very well spent. The assets and the ISK you stole will be easily replaced, it's just numbers on a database, pixels on our screens. The admiration, trust and friendship you built up in this corp over the years that you just lost can never be replaced. For that, and for the guilt you will soon feel, should be punishment enough. TL;DR - I'm broken on the inside.
Tarnia Xavian Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2009.07.06 20:59:00 - [40] When one pirate pirates another pirate does it make you happy or sad?

Jonny 101 Endemic Aggression Exalted.	Posted - 2009.07.06 21:19:00 - [41] Originally by: Muad' Dib Edited by: Muad'' Dib on 06/07/2009 19:06:25 Originally by: Maddan69 Originally by: Villwrath For that, and for the guilt you will soon feel, should be punishment enough. Guilt? Its a video game meant to be played like one. GG? Ninja Fake Edit: I wish I could hear the ranting you must have been doing over the past few days. Also someone who was a corp theif lecturing someone about theifing is just... There was no ranting ... really. Originally by: Jonny 101 Originally by: Maddan69 Originally by: Jonny 101 Did you steal the cap 800s aswell or did you leave them? I cleaned house on everything. Cap 800 were melted into minerals of course. Then you're the lowest form of life in eve and there is -no- excuse for your actions, filth. He even took the t1 destroyers, cyno boats, 2000 ecm drones ... Also, Maddan, you don't get Jonny, he was being ironic. :) I assure you I was quite serious, I have done many a vile thing, I have condoned many a crime, but I draw the line at stealing a corporations cap 800s, they're not worth jack ** and they're a **ing HELLISH job to haul!
Yakov Draken Minmatar Tides Of War	Posted - 2009.07.06 21:32:00 - [42] Robbing your friends because you feelings got hurt is pathetic. You can say "it is just a game" all you want but friends are friends wether they be "e-friends" or not. "It is just a game" so it is not worth burning friendships over. Best wishes to BYDI in getting over this theft.
Stubnitz THE ONE CLUB	Posted - 2009.07.06 21:39:00 - [43] You had good friends in BYDI. 30bil is nothing compared tbh. Shame.
Dracoknight The Directorate	Posted - 2009.07.06 21:43:00 - [44] Edited by: Dracoknight on 06/07/2009 21:43:58 Hai guise whats going on in this thread? AMMAGAD GIGANT WALL OF TEXT!!! ESCAPE ESCAPE!!! ALT + F4!!! OH NOOES!!! IT EATS MEEE!!! CHZZZZZZBZZTCHHHHHTBLITCH Connection Terminated Edit: more Z's ____________________ I wish my Thorax could use missiles...
Ashen Brarn More-Cowbell	Posted - 2009.07.06 21:55:00 - [45] I'm sure it's not warranted, but best wishes to BYDI in getting over this.
Elite Contract	Posted - 2009.07.06 21:57:00 - [46] Originally by: Ugluuk We no longer suicide big amounts of battleships.. Pants on fire.
Trioxi	Posted - 2009.07.06 21:57:00 - [47] Confirming if guilt plays a part i'll partake of the lootz
Rotten Ralph Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.07.06 22:19:00 - [48] Originally by: Stubnitz You had good friends in BYDI. 30bil is nothing compared tbh. Shame. once, oodin got good friends aswell
Dala Kya	Posted - 2009.07.06 22:25:00 - [49] Originally by: Maddan69 I dont even care about the isk. Could i have a bil or two? Maybe you are so rich that you don't care, but that would just me to allow for a lot of time without worring too much Cheers bro.
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2009.07.06 22:59:00 - [50] Edited by: Le Skunk on 06/07/2009 23:01:36 Congratulations on the excellent haul, and commiserations to BYDI. Actively attempting to poach other corps members soured the BYDI image a lot IMO, so some karma involved, but still some excellent pilots in there and a good corp to be in. Im sure you'll bounce back. SKUNK (o)

Jonny 101 Endemic Aggression Exalted.	Posted - 2009.07.06 23:07:00 - [51] Originally by: Le Skunk Edited by: Le Skunk on 06/07/2009 23:01:36 Congratulations on the excellent haul, and commiserations to BYDI. Actively attempting to poach other corps members soured the BYDI image a lot IMO, so some karma involved, but still some excellent pilots in there and a good corp to be in. Im sure you'll bounce back. SKUNK The bastards stole my eXtas!
Tobias Sjodin Ore Mongers BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2009.07.06 23:34:00 - [52] This thread tells me that BYDI is a cool corp. And they now made it a tad cooler. o7
hedfunk Caldari	Posted - 2009.07.07 00:32:00 - [53] Shame, BYDI are cool guys. Ganged with Ug in privs once Sure are taking it alot better than most, respect ;) Please refrain from political commentary in your signature. Navigator
eXtas Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2009.07.07 00:35:00 - [54] Originally by: Jonny 101 Originally by: Le Skunk Edited by: Le Skunk on 06/07/2009 23:01:36 Congratulations on the excellent haul, and commiserations to BYDI. Actively attempting to poach other corps members soured the BYDI image a lot IMO, so some karma involved, but still some excellent pilots in there and a good corp to be in. Im sure you'll bounce back. SKUNK The bastards stole my eXtas! I still lub you :)
DEVIL ANXIETY Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2009.07.07 01:58:00 - [55] **s brown and ** is yellow i don't know why but that's the way things are.
Lana Hellfury Minmatar Minmatar Republic Military Skool	Posted - 2009.07.07 03:26:00 - [56] So is BYDI looking for a new director? I'm getting bored with the skool and im looking for a new challenge..
Lorzion Minmatar Black Serpent Technologies	Posted - 2009.07.07 04:33:00 - [57] Juan Ignacio likes dudes. <3
AtheistOfDoom Amarr The Athiest Syndicate Advocated Destruction	Posted - 2009.07.07 05:22:00 - [58] Originally by: Yakov Draken Robbing your friends because you feelings got hurt is pathetic. You can say "it is just a game" all you want but friends are friends wether they be "e-friends" or not. "It is just a game" so it is not worth burning friendships over. Best wishes to BYDI in getting over this theft. Pretty much what I was gonna say. Pew Pew Lazorz!!!
Cal Darinne Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2009.07.07 06:24:00 - [59] From what Maddan wrote, it is clear that he is a piece of sh!t ball-sucker trying to justify his actions :) Kudos Maddan for your epic haul, but then again, go die in a corner :) aejfihaelah';klashawheawo;'uhq380ty oy24t9q3u4t0p83yghboesuhgs;lhq380t4hy q3t48qh3[ q3h[4t 08q3h4 g0qh[q03hgf3q[04hgqgoih qg aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh !!!!!!!!!!!1111one1111eleven1111111111ELEVENTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! takes her pills Now that we're all sorted out, I'd like to point out that either way, what's done is done and there's really no point in keeping this thread alive. ________________________ I am that I am, Caldari.
Jamcrok	Posted - 2009.07.07 07:00:00 - [60] Originally by: Maddan69 Originally by: Muad' Dib Originally by: Maddan69 Originally by: Villwrath For that, and for the guilt you will soon feel, should be punishment enough. Guilt? Its a video game meant to be played like one. GG? Ninja Fake Edit: I wish I could hear the ranting you must have been doing over the past few days. Also someone who was a corp theif lecturing someone about theifing is just... There was no ranting ... really. Lies... Vill not ranting about something is like a prositute not putting out on the first date. Prostitutes don't have dates, they have appointments! ;-)

Vaden Khale Amarr Ghost Festival	Posted - 2009.07.07 07:16:00 - [61] Edited by: Vaden Khale on 07/07/2009 07:17:00 Well, Vill's an *****, but at least he's an honest and upfront *****. I've always liked Vill from our talks in the Sandwich is a Douchebag channel (fun times), and I considered going to BYDI cause they get style and panache, and, well, Vill is a hell of a salesman. Best wishes to BYDI in recovering from the loss. Even if you did have a douchebag director making your life hell, corp theft isn't the answer. P.S. I <3 Hulkmania Edit: 3rd page snypah
Lana Hellfury Minmatar Minmatar Republic Military Skool	Posted - 2009.07.07 07:28:00 - [62] Originally by: Vaden Khale Edited by: Vaden Khale on 07/07/2009 07:17:00 Edit: 3rd page snypah YOU CANT EDIT IN SNIPES!!!!!
Karo Tsakkatoa	Posted - 2009.07.07 08:03:00 - [63] I find this strangely amusing. ____________________
Don ZOLA Caldari Vale Tudo.	Posted - 2009.07.07 08:05:00 - [64] It is not possible to make excuse for steal from people you call friends. Such low lifes are just little ****s. Im sure BYDI will survive this easily and only one on loss in the end will be you. You`ve sold yourself for isk son, you cant get much lower then that.
Mystical Dawn	Posted - 2009.07.07 08:11:00 - [65] Originally by: oodin PS.bydi tacticals??? you know that we allways start chearing when someone is probing us out Hehe, I remember the one nice day back in days at Bosena. Bydi was bragging and smacking at local, we dropped on their cap ships and they all self destructed That massive whine fest is the best memory of Bydi. Always such funny smacking whiners
Colonel Xaven Decadence. RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.07.07 08:47:00 - [66] Waiting for Guilded Hand Social Club to say: We did it and it was long-term planned.
white kight Galaxy Punks Aeternus.	Posted - 2009.07.07 08:47:00 - [67] Sorry to hear about this BYDI. I was only in your corp for a short while but i learned a lot from you guys. Hope you guys recover quickly. Originally by: CCP Greyscale :facepalm:
Intigo Amarr Endemic Aggression Exalted.	Posted - 2009.07.07 09:28:00 - [68] Originally by: Maddan69 Originally by: Taram Caldar Edited by: Taram Caldar on 06/07/2009 15:14:55 A corp thief always tries to justify their actions. In the end, they're still just a corp thief. Nothing justifies screwing your entire corporation over. Sorry to hear you guys got screwed. Nothing but respect for BYDI. Hint to the OP: When a corp changes away from what you joined for you find a new corp and politely say your goodbyes. If you have any class whatsoever. You don't go looting the entire corp to fatten your own wallet. Quoted just because of fact your a BYDI pet. I was gonna leave peacefully until Vill changed my mind. No need to justify anything I dont even care about the isk. I care about the ISK, can I have it please? ___________________ ENEMA, much love. <3
Rock urSocksoff Incura	Posted - 2009.07.07 09:32:00 - [69] I'm a big fan of people who use alts to infiltrate corps with the sole purpose who stealing everything they can, and put in the work to get themselves into that position. It's another thing entirely to backstab people whom you've been friends with for years. Originally by: Saluss Its a bad world in EvE and everyone wants your Retail shuttle.
Saint Schala Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.07.07 10:05:00 - [70] Edited by: Saint Schala on 07/07/2009 10:07:57 Originally by: oodin cmon maddan dont compare my 11 days in swigg to your over 2 years in bydi..i was with strangers there but you was with friends.. I would like to take this opertunity to point out that Oodin DID NOT ROB SWIGG. I dont know why he thinks he did tbh. He stole from a few overtrusting/stupid members who gave him a few ships and mods to move in his 'carrier.' I was the CEO of swigg at the time and the corp didnt lose a single ISK, Swigg has never been robbed and i believe it would never have sustained a significant theft while i was in charge. Oodin had not access to corp assets or money, eccept a hanger with perhaps a million isk in it. well fair play to madden. also i call bull$hit to Ugluuk saying that he ant run his corp in the ways of the old and gone bydi. a rigged hac costs no more than an old pre-invention hac. and the rigs on battleships are hardly a fortune. I managed to run a corp that way with a bunch of trainees and noob pvpers. RIP THE OLD BYDI

Johnny Gurkha Digital Fury Corporation Minor Threat.	Posted - 2009.07.07 11:26:00 - [71] Edited by: Johnny Gurkha on 07/07/2009 11:37:11 Originally by: Maddan69 BYDI owns 8 cad moons -10 4 Life!
Vicarious Design	Posted - 2009.07.07 11:30:00 - [72] While I found this hilarious, I do agree with Madd on one thing.. BYDI is nothing like its former self and is indeed now a glorified member of the.. "I can't pvp without a blob" pirate wannabe train. BYDI are absolutely useless other than in huge gangs no matter what the targets or possible fights, if they feel even remotely threatened out come 20 carriers. This is the sign of the times for low sec pirates these days... Useless without meat shields, blobs....all BECAUSE OF FALCON!!
Nuts Nougat Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.07.07 11:30:00 - [73] Originally by: Saint Schala I managed to run a corp that way with a bunch of trainees and noob pvpers. Confirming SniggWaffe is the best Waffe. ---
Volitaire	Posted - 2009.07.07 11:50:00 - [74] Originally by: Maddan69 Originally by: Taram Caldar Edited by: Taram Caldar on 06/07/2009 15:14:55 A corp thief always tries to justify their actions. In the end, they're still just a corp thief. Nothing justifies screwing your entire corporation over. Sorry to hear you guys got screwed. Nothing but respect for BYDI. Hint to the OP: When a corp changes away from what you joined for you find a new corp and politely say your goodbyes. If you have any class whatsoever. You don't go looting the entire corp to fatten your own wallet. Quoted just because of fact your a BYDI pet. I was gonna leave peacefully until Vill changed my mind. No need to justify anything I dont even care about the isk. Feel free to send it all my way
Vaerk One Amarr Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2009.07.07 12:31:00 - [75] Originally by: Maddan69 No need to justify anything I dont even care about the isk. so, can I have some of your stuff?
kikishi kintaro Caldari	Posted - 2009.07.07 13:53:00 - [76] Originally by: Morgan La'Chance Why, exactly, would he leave gracefully? There's no reason to. I do find this pretty graceful though - no swearing, no impotent rage, but just a nice and clean assets sweep. If a CEO treats a contributing member badly, then this is how that member can have his revenge. Maddan is not at fault here. alltough i dont fully approve of corp theft i have this to say a good corp works well thru respect, some people work harder then others and their payment is respect, if a hard working member isnt respected as he should,then it is fair to assume he would seek what he would consider fair compensation also,tho directorate and ceos thru out eve, we have seen this time and time again,people with access to important stuf being treated like **** and coreing your assest in responce , as emo as it is you cant realy blame fire for burning your hand if your the one playing with it, in short don't tempt fate
Xianbei	Posted - 2009.07.07 14:08:00 - [77] Originally by: RedSplat Cool Story Bro But really, why not stage a coup? jebus christ weren't you taking a break from eve ? you pop up to troll in every goddamn post in these forums. worse than goons. take the break & make it last this time
RedSplat Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2009.07.07 14:17:00 - [78] Originally by: Xianbei jebus christ weren't you taking a break from eve ? you pop up to troll in every goddamn post in these forums. worse than goons. take the break & make it last this time Originally by: CCP Mitnal I don't sleep. I am always here. Watching. Waiting. Originally by: CCP Mitnal it does get progressively longer.
Narciss Sevar Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.07.07 14:22:00 - [79] It's pretty funny odin crying about this, what with him being a corp theif himself and all.
kessah XERCORE Cult of War	Posted - 2009.07.07 15:36:00 - [80] Your stats Dont say much to me, Drake kill- 11 involved parties, Raven kill- 10 involved parties, etc etc Enjoy the isk, i hated bydi anyways. So hopefully what you did hurt them hard in game. ofc irl i dont want anything harsh to happen to anyone - just putting some context in there.

Lady Aja Caldari The White Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2009.07.07 15:38:00 - [81] Originally by: Maddan69 riday night we were just doing our usual camp / roam when Vill decided to belittle me over coms and director chat over something ridiculous stupid. This was my breaking point. Mad dood corp theft aint cool...no matter the reason unless its paid espionage. also if he ****ed you off that much do what i did after a ex ceo of mine abused me.... I said STFU or i will blow youre orca up.. he told me to bring it on and i did... not only did he ask why i just carried on and 5 of my corp mates sayed dock in local while i took him out.
Sytoru Hiroshyma SkillzKillz	Posted - 2009.07.07 15:49:00 - [82] Originally by: kikishi kintaro alltough i dont fully approve of corp theft i have this to say a good corp works well thru respect, some people work harder then others and their payment is respect, if a hard working member isnt respected as he should,then it is fair to assume he would seek what he would consider fair compensation also,tho directorate and ceos thru out eve, we have seen this time and time again,people with access to important stuf being treated like **** and coreing your assest in responce , as emo as it is you cant realy blame fire for burning your hand if your the one playing with it, in short don't tempt fate
Yangsen	Posted - 2009.07.07 15:56:00 - [83] Lovely done Maddan69! I'm sad to see BYDI take this loss but at the same time I can't help myself feeling a bit happy about your actions. A true pirate takes what he can when he feel he have to. Quote: Take what you can, and give nothing back (Pirate way of life)
Neo Rainhart Bandiittisektori	Posted - 2009.07.07 17:47:00 - [84] first off: lololol oh well, I bet BYDI is organized enough to overcome this matter in no time, but a big step backwards it must be. This happens all the time to corps that grow big in numbers. and for the last: Nice haul!
Vaden Khale Amarr Ghost Festival	Posted - 2009.07.07 19:02:00 - [85] Originally by: Lana Hellfury Originally by: Vaden Khale Edited by: Vaden Khale on 07/07/2009 07:17:00 Edit: 3rd page snypah YOU CANT EDIT IN SNIPES!!!!! I JUST DID!!!
Lord Aftermath The Aftermath.	Posted - 2009.07.07 19:51:00 - [86] It sucks, but anyone given power can clean your corp hangars at a moment's notice. Nothing but respect for the BYDI guys.
Hanso Sparxx Deep Penetration Inc.	Posted - 2009.07.07 20:49:00 - [87] I'd have more respect for you if you just robbed em and said "LOLz FU Suckahs! L8R!" thread has way too much whine from OP. ------------------ Go Deep!
Misanth Reaper Industries	Posted - 2009.07.07 22:12:00 - [88] Pretty chill posts from both sides, and some praise/props going around about peoples character. Seems a tad obvious that a) the d00d is fine, and b) corp is fine, so it's basicly a corp theft based on personality conflict between directors? Then this is in-directly a public hit to the corp as well, basicly saying the directors have issues when communicating with other members (and/or directors). The question is what the leadership will do to rectify this Vill dude (who ironicly is the only one who seems butthurt, further displaying his shortcomings here). I've got no clue who the involved parties in tho, just hoping I can help the drama on the way. My popcorn business has been a bit slow lately, need moar dramalamas. - I'd tell you why but then I'll have to kill you. And to kill you I'd have to log in. And to log in I'd have to stop browsing these forums. Both you and me knows that'll never happen.
Omarvelous Destry's Lounge Important Internet Spaceship League	Posted - 2009.07.07 22:13:00 - [89] I don't understand the need for justification - just call it a corp theft. I don't think anyone will trust you again shrug. In game brosefs > isk to me. I'm sure they'll brush it off and figure out a way to get more internet spaceship money. What are you planning to do with the isk anyways? Fly fancier than usual computer pixels or just get a fleet of computer pixels? P.S. I'm with Johnny - you're a **ing *** for stealing the cap charge 800's. My condolences to the NPC freighter alt that has to move that ** around. Important Internet Spaceship League Wants You
io0olilo0oi	Posted - 2009.07.07 22:21:00 - [90] I have nothing to say.

Ugluuk Caldari Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2009.07.07 22:33:00 - [91] Originally by: kessah Enjoy the isk, i hated bydi anyways. So hopefully what you did hurt them hard in game. No need to hate us because you didn`t get into Bydi.. As for the whole corp theft stuff i believe that this post has done it`s duty..The corp theft is known, Maddan will be remembered by the community atleast to the end of this week and Bydi got some ammo and mods to replace.. And to those hoping that this hurt the corp..He stole around 30 bill total and lots of it being mods..Im proud to have many very generous members who have replaced over 20bill so far.. So as it stands now we got more isk than we did before the corp theft because it aint locked up as mods in the hangar anymore.. Thanks guys!
Ivana Gankalot	Posted - 2009.07.08 00:00:00 - [92] Edited by: Ivana Gankalot on 08/07/2009 00:03:06 Originally by: Ugluuk Originally by: kessah Enjoy the isk, i hated bydi anyways. So hopefully what you did hurt them hard in game. No need to hate us because you didn`t get into Bydi.. As for the whole corp theft stuff i believe that this post has done it`s duty..The corp theft is known, Maddan will be remembered by the community atleast to the end of this week and Bydi got some ammo and mods to replace.. And to those hoping that this hurt the corp..He stole around 30 bill total and lots of it being mods..Im proud to have many very generous members who have replaced over 20bill so far.. So as it stands now we got more isk than we did before the corp theft because it aint locked up as mods in the hangar anymore.. Thanks guys! they didnt want that isk anyway
Maddan69 Blunt Force Syndicate	Posted - 2009.07.08 00:08:00 - [93] Originally by: Ugluuk Originally by: kessah Enjoy the isk, i hated bydi anyways. So hopefully what you did hurt them hard in game. No need to hate us because you didn`t get into Bydi.. As for the whole corp theft stuff i believe that this post has done it`s duty..The corp theft is known, Maddan will be remembered by the community atleast to the end of this week and Bydi got some ammo and mods to replace.. And to those hoping that this hurt the corp..He stole around 30 bill total and lots of it being mods..Im proud to have many very generous members who have replaced over 20bill so far.. So as it stands now we got more isk than we did before the corp theft because it aint locked up as mods in the hangar anymore.. Thanks guys! Why does the quote, "Yes, Excellent, My work is doneö, comes to mind. On a serious note I cannot wait to trade some rounds against BYDI now. No need for the eject / self-destruct buttonà Guns Blazing till you see that pretty blue explosion. Mad
kikishi kintaro Caldari	Posted - 2009.07.08 00:19:00 - [94] Originally by: Ugluuk Originally by: kessah Enjoy the isk, i hated bydi anyways. So hopefully what you did hurt them hard in game. No need to hate us because you didn`t get into Bydi.. that would be a good point , but unless you have never killed anyone in eve ever. you would not only know bydi are the easyiest corp in eve to get into, but they actually convo you and do the leg work ive been in gangs where after an engagement agenst bydi every one of us have been privately pm'ed and asked to join. and just to stright up laugh at you some of those times ive been in gang with kessah when it happened.
Mr Ignitious Helljumpers	Posted - 2009.07.08 00:24:00 - [95] Originally by: Maddan69 Originally by: Taram Caldar Edited by: Taram Caldar on 06/07/2009 15:14:55 A corp thief always tries to justify their actions. In the end, they're still just a corp thief. Nothing justifies screwing your entire corporation over. Sorry to hear you guys got screwed. Nothing but respect for BYDI. Hint to the OP: When a corp changes away from what you joined for you find a new corp and politely say your goodbyes. If you have any class whatsoever. You don't go looting the entire corp to fatten your own wallet. Quoted just because of fact your a BYDI pet. I was gonna leave peacefully until Vill changed my mind. No need to justify anything I dont even care about the isk. actually, i think taram is a pretty cool guy - same goes for all of noir =) I read the forums assuming there are no trolls, only really stupid people. Originally by: CCP Zulupark WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU?
Tanse Miro	Posted - 2009.07.08 00:41:00 - [96] To those of you saying "he was our friend, our corpmate, how could he, yadda, yadda" -- well if he was your friend why did you leave him feeling so bitter? There are no innocent parties in this story. To me, a bystander, it simply shows that your corp's leadership has some very poor conflict resolution and people's skills that it is breeding corp thieves among such dedicated members who feel that they have no option of being heard but by acting out like this, and that after doing so much that they have not earned simple respect. This story demonstrates that leaders of this corp are long overdue for an ego check. As for Maddan69 you need to learn some of those skills also, so that next corp you join if you are being mistreated and your opinions aren't being heard you don't have to speak out via corp theft. And also quit EVE to remind yourself that it is a game so that if there is that 1 ******* belittling you and not listening to you don't get so bitter as to start waging jihad on entire corp.
ol gil	Posted - 2009.07.08 00:47:00 - [97] Originally by: Tanse Miro To those of you saying "he was our friend, our corpmate, how could he, yadda, yadda" -- well if he was your friend why did you leave him feeling so bitter? There are no innocent parties in this story. To me, a bystander, it simply shows that your corp's leadership has some very poor conflict resolution and people's skills that it is breeding corp thieves among such dedicated members who feel that they have no option of being heard but by acting out like this, and that after doing so much that they have not earned simple respect. This story demonstrates that leaders of this corp are long overdue for an ego check. As for Maddan69 you need to learn some of those skills also, so that next corp you join if you are being mistreated and your opinions aren't being heard you don't have to speak out via corp theft. And also quit EVE to remind yourself that it is a game so that if there is that 1 ******* belittling you and not listening to you don't get so bitter as to start waging jihad on entire corp. alot of good points made
Villwrath Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2009.07.08 00:59:00 - [98] Edited by: Villwrath on 08/07/2009 01:01:34 Originally by: kikishi kintaro you would not only know bydi are the easyiest corp in eve to get into, but they actually convo you and do the leg work ive been in gangs where after an engagement agenst bydi every one of us have been privately pm'ed and asked to join. You know I hate posting anything on EvE-O unless I feel the absolute need to, and slanderous lies give me good reason. BYDI is by no means an easy corp to get into, however I guess that depends on your definition of easy. If your an excellent pvp'r, I would assume that most corps are fairly easy to get into, what is this like a RL corporation or something, lol? The thing that really makes me lol is your remark about people we fight being convo'd and asked to join, that is hilarious. BYDI recruitment is strictly by solid referral from current members only. Unless your talking about 4+ years ago, that is how we recruit. Also for all those saying Maddan was mistreated in this corp, and our corp leadership needs to treat people better, I would just like to say that Maddan was always treated with the utmost of respect, as all of our Directors are. Don't let his justifications for being greedy confuse you with how we actually operate please.
Ivan Krukov	Posted - 2009.07.08 01:58:00 - [99] I myself am a corporation thief as well. Props to you Maddan.
I'Lse Farayh	Posted - 2009.07.08 04:08:00 - [100] Originally by: Villwrath Edited by: Villwrath on 08/07/2009 01:01:34 Originally by: kikishi kintaro you would not only know bydi are the easyiest corp in eve to get into, but they actually convo you and do the leg work ive been in gangs where after an engagement agenst bydi every one of us have been privately pm'ed and asked to join. BYDI recruitment is strictly by solid referral from current members only. Unless your talking about 4+ years ago, that is how we recruit. yes, and you pay your members isk to refer you new ones..

Villwrath Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2009.07.08 07:44:00 - [101] Originally by: I'Lse Farayh yes, and you pay your members isk to refer you new ones.. Referrals are the safest way for a corp to recruit new talent. Some of the most successful corps in this game have paid their members for referrals; and why not pay them, they are helping the corp. Just because someone is referred to us doesn't mean we'll recruit them, and just because they are recruited doesn't mean we're going to keep them past their trial period. We only pay for those who are recruited AND who become full members, so I don't really see the point of your comment I'Lse, or Maddan's alt, or whoever's alt you are.
Karlemgne Tides Of War	Posted - 2009.07.08 08:30:00 - [102] Wow. You don't like the corp situation, rob your friends blind. Best of luck finding a new corp, kiddo. My sig don't fracking work.
Maddan69 Blunt Force Syndicate	Posted - 2009.07.08 12:09:00 - [103] Edited by: Maddan69 on 08/07/2009 12:09:54 Originally by: Villwrath We only pay for those who are recruited AND who become full members, so I don't really see the point of your comment I'Lse, or Maddan's alt, or whoever's alt you are. Paranoid much Vill? You know all my alts. I have no reason to smack against BYDI plus thats not my thing to begin with.
Udan	Posted - 2009.07.08 12:20:00 - [104] well done man bydi will disband soon I hope
Kalpaks II	Posted - 2009.07.08 12:39:00 - [105] Its a time to load ammo and remove those BYDI (or whatever they called) remaining poses
Verone Gallente Veto Corp	Posted - 2009.07.08 13:35:00 - [106] Given the fact that for no real reason [BYDI] hates [VETO] and for the same apparent reason Villwrath has a personal issue with me, I expect to be flamed to high heavens, but what the hell I'll add my two cents. A corp theft is a corp theft, no matter how you try to spin it. Whether you've been planning it six months or six hours, it's just the same. It's a corp theft. People who do it are on the bottom rung of the ladder that leads to the top where people such as [GHSC] sit. I mean, lets look at this in terms of Guiding Hand at the other end of the spectrum, who are paid mercs, spend time planning, gathering intel, working hard to infiltrate and shut down a corporation, and are completely open and honest about a heist when they've pulled it off. A heist is very different to this, a heist has some credit because it's done for a reason and for monetary gain. Then take this, a fumbled attempt at getting your own back because someone shouted at you on Ventrilo and hurt your feelings. Taking stuff you had access to play with and use in the corp because you were a loyal and trusted member. The fact of the matter is, you're whining about how you didn't want to do it, and about [BYDI] has become a hotdropping corp and how you hate it, and how much you're sorry and love the members. Yet you stole from them? The members you care so much about and apologise for doing so? Because one guy shouted at you on ventrilo and made you sad? Lets rewind. If you weren't happy with the way things were going in the corp, but loved the members, why not just leave? Why not just say "hey guys, it's been fun but I'm not enjoying things any more, I'm gonna go take a look elsewhere and see what's on offer, have fun, it's been awesome"? Why not try to explain and reason with the corporation to see if things will change? Why not talk to Ug and tell him Villwrath was out of line for screaming at you on voice if you really think so, rather than harming the memberbase you "love so much"? I guess a lack of thought at the time is a tough thing to swallow, hence all the apologies. Too bad. Damn, I'd EXPECT my Directors to tell people to pipe the feck down and get in line on voice comms, especially those in senior command of the corp. In the end it's a damn game, that's all it boils down to. The stuff in your hangar isn't yours, it belongs to CCP and just as Villwrath said, it's a few numbers in a database somewhere and a few pretty pixels you see on screen. The only thing you've really done is damaged your friendship and trust that's been built up with members of the corporation over the year you've spent in command. Oh, and branded yourself and untrustworthy thief in a game where reputation means everything. I find your reasoning for ripping [BYDI] off impossible to swallow. I've personally had Villwrath sit and smacktalk me god knows how many times. I laugh it off, as I'm sure he does, because in the end it's a play on words that's used to try and invoke a reaction, nothing more. Just because he has a negative opinion of me inside a game, it doesn't mean I want to punch him in the head or hump his goldfish or whatever as revenge. Hell, I'd probably have a laugh at the crap we've flung at eachother over the years and buy the guy a beer if I ever saw him face to face. In this case, he's completely right. Every word he posted in his response to you is right. Pixels on a screen that are easily replaced. [BYDI] suffers no humility from this, it's something they can't protect against when a theft happens at such a high level. You on the other hand will start to feel the guilt of betraying friends who've trusted you personally for over a year as soon as the fact that you're not the hand of justice, and nothing more than a common corp thief like a thousand others sinks in. \o/ EON FICTION WRITER OF 2008! \o/ >>> THE LIFE OF AN OUTLAW <<<
Verone Gallente Veto Corp	Posted - 2009.07.08 13:36:00 - [107] [BYDI] will bounce back from this, and while I don't agree that capitals are a "requirement" to play Eve today (we still don't feel the need to field them after three and a half years of constant PvP), I do agree with the sentiment that [BYDI] have a strong leadership structure and a group of skilled pilots who won't have an issue recovering from a small theft like this. In the end, you stole 30 billion, which can probably be replaced by a corp with the number of members [BYDI] has in a month. On the flip side, you gave up your place in an established, competently lead corporation with people who have a Solid knowledge of Eve and it's workings. You also lost friends you've flown with for years, for no other reason than your own selfish greed and will to make a quick few bucks to get back at someone for shouting at you on Ventrilo. On the other hand, they still have a corporation, the same group of friends they always have, and if anything their bonds are stronger now that they've seen what one bad egg in the basket can do. You come here chestbeating, yet you're the loser in this situation not Beyond Divinity. The sooner you shape up and realise it, the sooner you'll pull your thumb out of your ass and realise what a stupid mistake you made while you were boohooing like a spoiled kid over being shouted at on Vent. \o/ EON FICTION WRITER OF 2008! \o/ >>> THE LIFE OF AN OUTLAW <<<
Ryu Sorak	Posted - 2009.07.08 13:48:00 - [108] bydi has like 100 ppl so if they all worked irl 4 1 hr thats like 700 dollars rite there n they can buy 30b easily w/ 700 dollars so is 1 hr worth of work 4 ur corp worth of all of that ???
Maddan69 Blunt Force Syndicate	Posted - 2009.07.08 13:53:00 - [109] Originally by: Verone You come here chestbeating, yet you're the loser in this situation not Beyond Divinity. The sooner you shape up and realise it, the sooner you'll pull your thumb out of your ass and realise what a stupid mistake you made while you were boohooing like a spoiled kid over being shouted at on Vent. I dont believe it was a stupid mistake at all tbh. How am I the loser in this situation? People treat this game as a second job, I donÆt, I log on to pvp to see those internet spaceships go pew pew at each other. Thats it. Drama is drama which should be saved for RL not intertwined with a virtual game made up of pixels as you call it. Vill belittled me, I had enough and I did what I did. Was it the right thing to do? Probably not but hell might as well go out with a bang. Now I am free of the bonds I had been under and I for one feel amazing. I will let the EVE current take me to new places to meet new people because after all this is just a video game. Mad
Verone Gallente Veto Corp	Posted - 2009.07.08 13:58:00 - [110] Originally by: Maddan69 How am I the loser in this situation? Was it the right thing to do? Probably not but hell might as well go out with a bang. Now I am free of the bonds I had been under and I for one feel amazing. Give it time. \o/ EON FICTION WRITER OF 2008! \o/ >>> THE LIFE OF AN OUTLAW <<<

Maddan69 Blunt Force Syndicate	Posted - 2009.07.08 14:06:00 - [111] Originally by: Verone Originally by: Maddan69 How am I the loser in this situation? Was it the right thing to do? Probably not but hell might as well go out with a bang. Now I am free of the bonds I had been under and I for one feel amazing. Give it time. Give exactly what time? Do you honestly believe I am going to have an emotional breakdown over this? If you do, I think its time you took a break from the game called ôEVEö.
Verone Gallente Veto Corp	Posted - 2009.07.08 14:09:00 - [112] Originally by: Maddan69 Originally by: Verone Originally by: Maddan69 How am I the loser in this situation? Was it the right thing to do? Probably not but hell might as well go out with a bang. Now I am free of the bonds I had been under and I for one feel amazing. Give it time. Give exactly what time? Do you honestly believe I am going to have an emotional breakdown over this? If you do, I think its time you took a break from the game called ôEVEö. hahaha \o/ EON FICTION WRITER OF 2008! \o/ >>> THE LIFE OF AN OUTLAW <<<
omplapa Caldari R.A.G.N.A.R.O.K.	Posted - 2009.07.08 14:10:00 - [113] Originally by: Maddan69 Originally by: Verone You come here chestbeating, yet you're the loser in this situation not Beyond Divinity. The sooner you shape up and realise it, the sooner you'll pull your thumb out of your ass and realise what a stupid mistake you made while you were boohooing like a spoiled kid over being shouted at on Vent. I dont believe it was a stupid mistake at all tbh. How am I the loser in this situation? People treat this game as a second job, I donÆt, I log on to pvp to see those internet spaceships go pew pew at each other. Thats it. Drama is drama which should be saved for RL not intertwined with a virtual game made up of pixels as you call it. Vill belittled me, I had enough and I did what I did. Was it the right thing to do? Probably not but hell might as well go out with a bang. Now I am free of the bonds I had been under and I for one feel amazing. I will let the EVE current take me to new places to meet new people because after all this is just a video game. Mad i dont buy that. you logged in over the years not only to pvp but to pvp with the friends you liked and liked you back. now the friends are gone cause you was the type of friend that stole from your buddys wallet. join a new corp?? i will be very surprised if you find a corp that someone in bydi doesnt know a director from ,so you will never feel safe with those "new friends" cause you might been set up for a "drop" anytime now punk!! ask yourself,do you feel lucky?
RedSplat Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2009.07.08 14:13:00 - [114] Edited by: RedSplat on 08/07/2009 14:13:49 You'll regret it when you realize that isk cant buy back what you lost. and thats why i draw the line at corp theft; hell, i've joined corps before just to scam them and discovered i like them too much Originally by: CCP Mitnal I don't sleep. I am always here. Watching. Waiting. Originally by: CCP Mitnal it does get progressively longer.
Maddan69 Blunt Force Syndicate	Posted - 2009.07.08 14:15:00 - [115] Originally by: Verone Originally by: Maddan69 Originally by: Verone Originally by: Maddan69 How am I the loser in this situation? Was it the right thing to do? Probably not but hell might as well go out with a bang. Now I am free of the bonds I had been under and I for one feel amazing. Give it time. Give exactly what time? Do you honestly believe I am going to have an emotional breakdown over this? If you do, I think its time you took a break from the game called ôEVEö. hahaha Classic Verone. Now back under your rock. Good Boy
Ryu Sorak	Posted - 2009.07.08 14:16:00 - [116] atleast we now know whos gonna rot in hell
kikishi kintaro Caldari	Posted - 2009.07.08 14:22:00 - [117] Originally by: Maddan69 Originally by: Verone Originally by: Maddan69 Originally by: Verone ********** ******* Classic Verone. Now back under your rock. Good Boy now that the high horse has finsihed, i have to point out 1 flaw in everyones complaints as with most great scams,maddan has taken not only enough infamy to be turned away from most prominant corps in eve ,but the isk to buy and play a new char till all this blows over , maybe a year, and enough isk to plex that char for that year, and still pleanty to party down
Maddan69 Blunt Force Syndicate	Posted - 2009.07.08 14:35:00 - [118] Originally by: kikishi kintaro Now that the high horse has finsihed, i have to point out 1 flaw in everyones complaints As with most great scams,maddan has taken not only enough infamy to be turned away from most prominant corps in eve ,but the isk to buy and play a new char till all this blows over , maybe a year, and enough isk to plex that char for that year, and still pleanty to party down See now this is where your wrong my friend. I will continue to use Mad no need to make another character. Before this fiasco I never stole / scammed anyone in my EVE career and now after the fiasco I will continue to do just that.
kikishi kintaro Caldari	Posted - 2009.07.08 14:43:00 - [119] Edited by: kikishi kintaro on 08/07/2009 14:44:31 Originally by: Maddan69 Originally by: kikishi kintaro Now that the high horse has finsihed, i have to point out 1 flaw in everyones complaints As with most great scams,maddan has taken not only enough infamy to be turned away from most prominant corps in eve ,but the isk to buy and play a new char till all this blows over , maybe a year, and enough isk to plex that char for that year, and still pleanty to party down See now this is where your wrong my friend. I will continue to use Mad no need to make another character. Before this fiasco I never stole / scammed anyone in my EVE career and now after the fiasco I will continue to do just that. well i personally do belive you, and i disagree with the way alot of the old pirate corps are being run these days. how can someone pirate for a profit when the loots is being split more than 10 ways its all these 0.0 heads with there alts getting other sources of income, wanting to play pirate thats killing lo-sec imo \rant off but sadly i will agree with the masses on this one, in eve you lose isk, ships, pods, clones ,implants power reigons, the only thing you keep is your word now agreeing wih your point of view i dont feel you have broken your word,(i know im bias) but all the tl:dr ceo's out there will read maddan69=corp theif what ever the story might be sadly eve is a game where a man can be judged by only his actions not by his intentions edit:\ typo
Crazy Tasty Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2009.07.08 14:49:00 - [120] /thread already, Bydi got over this 3 days ago, everyone else should to. Lulz at the attempted smack though. ------ // This is by design. When a ship jumps through a gate, it clears all aggression. // - BH ******** Pew on gate, if it gets hot, jump through and Ctrl-Q. Game mechanic endorsed by CCP.

Deitre Cibrus You're Doing It Wrong	Posted - 2009.07.08 15:37:00 - [121] Originally by: omplapa Originally by: Maddan69 Originally by: Verone You come here chestbeating, yet you're the loser in this situation not Beyond Divinity. The sooner you shape up and realise it, the sooner you'll pull your thumb out of your ass and realise what a stupid mistake you made while you were boohooing like a spoiled kid over being shouted at on Vent. I dont believe it was a stupid mistake at all tbh. How am I the loser in this situation? People treat this game as a second job, I donÆt, I log on to pvp to see those internet spaceships go pew pew at each other. Thats it. Drama is drama which should be saved for RL not intertwined with a virtual game made up of pixels as you call it. Vill belittled me, I had enough and I did what I did. Was it the right thing to do? Probably not but hell might as well go out with a bang. Now I am free of the bonds I had been under and I for one feel amazing. I will let the EVE current take me to new places to meet new people because after all this is just a video game. Mad i dont buy that. you logged in over the years not only to pvp but to pvp with the friends you liked and liked you back. now the friends are gone cause you was the type of friend that stole from your buddys wallet. join a new corp?? i will be very surprised if you find a corp that someone in bydi doesnt know a director from ,so you will never feel safe with those "new friends" cause you might been set up for a "drop" anytime now punk!! ask yourself,do you feel lucky? oodin ----------- Originally by: Santiago Cortes Please don't derail your own thread. What is this sig missing? Pretty colours? -Conuion Not true! Has plenty -Deitre
Elektrea Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.07.08 17:31:00 - [122] Suddenly thousands of waffles cry out in laughter. ----------
slazenger harris Gallente Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.07.08 17:34:00 - [123] Hey Oodin, what happened here son?
Shadyan Caldari Shadows Of The Federation	Posted - 2009.07.08 20:58:00 - [124] Edited by: Shadyan on 08/07/2009 20:59:05 What a d!**. BYDI all the best to you, hope to squish you on the battlefield :), sry that you guys or anyone for that matter, has to experience trust being thrown away like that.
Mr Blue Caldari The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.07.08 21:10:00 - [125] What I dont understand Maddan, is why u bother making and replying to this? Moralic wrong or not, you have basicly made your own callout-tread, and now starting to look like a desperate fool grasping after moralic support. after the first page you been bether off not responding anymore. What are you searching for? a pat on the back? Noone gonna give that to u besides the ones who really hate bydi, now thats not because they like u or something. you cant explain this away with words...corptheif from buddys is corp theift. However its no point getting stuck in it either. Go on and stop making a fool of yourself. You cant do anymore now, besides live with it. It might backfire and hit ya in the face later , but basicly done is done. Go on. Just a friendly advice.
Treim	Posted - 2009.07.08 22:46:00 - [126] Well if you wanna make a new friend ill have 1bil isk lol
Bisba The Athiest Syndicate Advocated Destruction	Posted - 2009.07.08 22:54:00 - [127] A thief is a thief, nothing more. There is no excuse. If you have a problem with vill be a man and tell him your problem. You took the easy way and it will turn out the hard way for sure. I'm happy to hear BYDI already got over there loss, didn't expect anything else. The way I see it, one rotten apple out, stronger corp after.
Verone Gallente Veto Corp	Posted - 2009.07.08 23:28:00 - [128] Originally by: Maddan69 Classic Verone. Now back under your rock. Good Boy awww, ain't he cute. You should have stayed with Villwrath in BYDI a little longer, he could have tought you how to smacktalk properly, it's something he's VERY good at. \o/ EON FICTION WRITER OF 2008! \o/ >>> THE LIFE OF AN OUTLAW <<<
abrasive soap Caldari Corporation 12345	Posted - 2009.07.08 23:51:00 - [129] Originally by: RedSplat Edited by: RedSplat on 08/07/2009 14:13:49 You'll regret it when you realize that isk cant buy back what you lost. and thats why i draw the line at corp theft; hell, i've joined corps before just to scam them and discovered i like them too much solo pvp is fun :SHOCK:
Choppernicus	Posted - 2009.07.09 03:04:00 - [130] Edited by: Choppernicus on 09/07/2009 03:05:43 Originally by: Saint Schala stuff How do you quote when youre docked up in Tama station??? Tell me you didnt ninja undock to post this... Happened to check eve-o forums and noticed this, sad to see this happen to BYDI, but I surely know they can bounce back asap. Also, they(we) hot dropped when we got homo-blobbed. If you dont bring a sausage party and outnumber them 4:1 then they wont hot drop you. P.S. I still owe you a probing guide Vill... /"source" posting under friends account

Amber Saint Genos Occidere	Posted - 2009.07.09 13:46:00 - [131] Originally by: Villwrath You know I hate posting anything on EvE-O unless I feel the absolute need to, and slanderous lies give me good reason. BYDI is by no means an easy corp to get into, however I guess that depends on your definition of easy. If your an excellent pvp'r, I would assume that most corps are fairly easy to get into, what is this like a RL corporation or something, lol? The thing that really makes me lol is your remark about people we fight being convo'd and asked to join, that is hilarious. BYDI recruitment is strictly by solid referral from current members only. Unless your talking about 4+ years ago, that is how we recruit. Also for all those saying Maddan was mistreated in this corp, and our corp leadership needs to treat people better, I would just like to say that Maddan was always treated with the utmost of respect, as all of our Directors are. Don't let his justifications for being greedy confuse you with how we actually operate please. 2009.02.16 21:57 Greetings, I am a recruiter for Beyond Divinity Inc. [BYDI]. We are a 4 year old, well known, experienced and professional low-sec pvp corp. Unless you've been living under a moon rock, most likely you have heard of us. We have 70 active members and we're looking to recruit a few more high caliber pilots. Our recruitment is always by invite or referral only, so you'll never see us do public recruitment. We are contacting talented pilots from other low sec pvp corps, offering this incredible opportunity. If your reading this then we've checked out your stats, and we were interested in learning more about you. This is only being sent out to a small, select group of people who have a lot of potential but may be in a corp holding them back from their full potential. NOW, I ASK YOU: Do you feel that ALL of the other pilots in your corp are as equally skilled in pvp as yourself? Does the corp have experienced FC's in all forms of PvP? Are you getting as many kills per week as you should be? Does your corp have high levels of activity in your timezone? Does your corp leadership set goals and objectives for it's pilots to accomplish as a team? Are you having FUN? EvE is a game, and you should be having fun when your playing! If you answered NO to any of these questions, I want you to know that BYDI can offer ALL of these things to you. If this sounds like the type of pilots you'd like as your wing men, then we might be worth looking into. Check our KB stats. KB LINK: http://bydi.griefwatch.net Looking forward to hearing from you, so please convo/evemail me or Villwrath for more info.
Lyshah The Carebear Stare	Posted - 2009.07.09 20:16:00 - [132] ^^ got that too
William DeMeo Gallente Genos Occidere	Posted - 2009.07.09 20:24:00 - [133] Originally by: Mr Blue What I dont understand Maddan, is why u bother making and replying to this? Moralic wrong or not, you have basicly made your own callout-tread, and now starting to look like a desperate fool grasping after moralic support. after the first page you been bether off not responding anymore. What are you searching for? a pat on the back? Noone gonna give that to u besides the ones who really hate bydi, now thats not because they like u or something. you cant explain this away with words...corptheif from buddys is corp theift. However its no point getting stuck in it either. Go on and stop making a fool of yourself. You cant do anymore now, besides live with it. It might backfire and hit ya in the face later , but basicly done is done. Go on. Just a friendly advice. It's moral support. Moral. Yarr
ArmyOfMe The Athiest Syndicate Advocated Destruction	Posted - 2009.07.09 21:20:00 - [134] Originally by: Alekseyev Karrde We need to be pets confirmed that aleks is my pet
oodin Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2009.07.09 23:45:00 - [135] amber and lysha thats cause i fly with you who sent it?
SixToOne	Posted - 2009.07.10 00:01:00 - [136] 30bil....Thats it...Thats like a weeks work with an indy alt?You should have invested your time in something a bit more profitable.
53XY	Posted - 2009.07.10 02:08:00 - [137] Edited by: 53XY on 10/07/2009 02:09:30 Maddan did good here, Villwrath really is a tosser!
Promethian child Amarr 0utbreak KrautbreaK	Posted - 2009.07.10 02:38:00 - [138] meh i have ships with more than 30 bill of fitting lying around in my hangar. Whats the use of posting about stealing pocket change ? And however you turn it you are still an thief.
PlexedLive Gallente Public Embarrasment Hellstrome Alliance	Posted - 2009.07.10 18:17:00 - [139] Originally by: Promethian child MY EPEEN IS HUGE Stuff about his lots of isk OMG UR AWSUM!
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2009.07.10 18:44:00 - [140] Originally by: Amber Saint Originally by: Villwrath You know I hate posting anything on EvE-O unless I feel the absolute need to, and slanderous lies give me good reason. BYDI is by no means an easy corp to get into... The thing that really makes me lol is your remark about people we fight being convo'd and asked to join, that is hilarious. BYDI recruitment is strictly by solid referral from current members only.. . Don't let his justifications for being greedy confuse you with how we actually operate please. 2009.02.16 21:57 Greetings, I am a recruiter for Beyond Divinity Inc. [BYDI]. We are a 4 year old, well known, experienced and professional low-sec pvp corp. Unless you've been living under a moon rock, most likely you have heard of us. We have 70 active members and we're looking to recruit a few more high caliber pilots ... Looking forward to hearing from you, so please convo/evemail me or Villwrath for more info. Yeah most of my corp got these mails multiple times, including an alt of mine. Its not a "slanderous lie" to point out BYDI are activley trawling killboards galaxy wide in order to poach members. Its how you operate, its a bit tacky, but is a way of recruiting some people may not feel is beneath them. Dont try to make out your not doing it though. SKUNK (o)

Recon Three Empire Assault Corp Dead Terrorists	Posted - 2009.07.10 18:59:00 - [141] wuts goin on in 'dis thread, sum internat spaceship drama? _____
RedSplat Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2009.07.10 20:02:00 - [142] http://forum.battleclinic.com/index.php/topic,51803.msg265386-Maddan69-s-Erebus-was-destroyed-02-09-09-13-53-00/topicseen.html#new I refuse to use BC. Did he lose or kill an Erebus and is it relevant to the thread I guess i'll never know. ** you Battleclinic Originally by:** CCP Mitnal I don't sleep. I am always here. Watching. Waiting. Originally by: CCP Mitnal it does get progressively longer.
Maddan69 Blunt Force Syndicate	Posted - 2009.07.10 20:33:00 - [143] Originally by: RedSplat http://forum.battleclinic.com/index.php/topic,51803.msg265386-Maddan69-s-Erebus-was-destroyed-02-09-09-13-53-00/topicseen.html#new I refuse to use BC. Did he lose or kill an Erebus and is it relevant to the thread I guess i'll never know. **** you Battleclinic If you look there is actually 5 Erebus losses.... I dont even have Gallente BS to 5. lol I cannot find the report a fake killmail button on the new battleclinic website either.
Villwrath Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2009.07.11 00:06:00 - [144] Edited by: Villwrath on 11/07/2009 00:06:57 Originally by: Le Skunk Further to the previous posters from different low sec corps testifying to receiving these mails out of the blue - most of my corp got these mails multiple times, including an alt of mine. Its not a "slanderous lie" to point out BYDI are actively trawling killboards galaxy wide in order to poach members. A "solid reference" these days must just come down to random names plucked from killboards. Its one facet of how you operate, its a bit tacky, but is a way of recruiting some people may not feel is beneath them. To be fair - when asked to stop spamming these mails to our inboxes after the third or fourth time, BYDI agreed to do so. Dont try to make out your not doing it though. These practices dont justify the corp theft, but if they are indicative of what the thief-director saw as a massive decline in morals, direction, leadership, ethics or whatever - (and not just a knee jerk reaction to a percieved slight on TS) you should not just "BURN THE WITCH!!", but perhaps look at yourselves to see if you can be doing things better in future Also dont be suprised when former friends dont seem to upset to learn you got robbed SKUNK Skunk, maybe next time before you quote someone on a thread, you should probably quote what was quoted. What I said was in response to kikishi kintaro's post saying that we have convo'd people after a fight and asked them to join. This is something we have never done, ever. I never denied the fact that in the past we have done some head hunting, but this was only on 2 occasions. I have no idea why you feel that is in anyway reverent to a thread about us getting robbed. If you'd like to start a new thread about BYDI's recruitment practices, be my guest. You also said after the 3rd or 4th time you contacted us to stop, well that right there is simply untrue, as we have only ran the operation headhunter program 2 times ever, with the last one being quite some time ago. Again some of the most successful corp's in EvE have poached other corps top talent. To be quite honest with you, out of 100 evemails sent on our last operation, we were contacted by 30 interested pilots, that's a 30% response rate. Probably about half of those pilots we recruited. This tells me there are plenty of pilots who are not happy with their current corp, looking for something better, but just won't put forth the effort to leave on their own. I'm sorry that your butt hurt over one of our old recruitment policies (we don't do these anymore, and haven't in some time), but you will be glad to know that you have loyal pilots, as none of your members ever contacted us during either of those two operations.
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2009.07.11 02:08:00 - [145] Edited by: Le Skunk on 11/07/2009 02:12:56 Edited by: Le Skunk on 11/07/2009 02:09:31 Originally by: Villwrath Skunk, maybe next time before you quote someone on a thread, you should probably quote what was quoted. What I said was in response to kikishi kintaro's post saying that we have convo'd people after a fight and asked them to join. This is something we have never done, ever. I never denied the fact that in the past we have done some head hunting, but this was only on 2 occasions. I have no idea why you feel that is in anyway reverent to a thread about us getting robbed. If you'd like to start a new thread about BYDI's recruitment practices, be my guest. You also said after the 3rd or 4th time you contacted us to stop, well that right there is simply untrue, as we have only ran the operation headhunter program 2 times ever, with the last one being quite some time ago. Again some of the most successful corp's in EvE have poached other corps top talent. To be quite honest with you, out of 100 evemails sent on our last operation, we were contacted by 30 interested pilots, that's a 30% response rate. Probably about half of those pilots we recruited. This tells me there are plenty of pilots who are not happy with their current corp, looking for something better, but just won't put forth the effort to leave on their own. I'm sorry that your butt hurt over one of our old recruitment policies (we don't do these anymore, and haven't in some time), but you will be glad to know that you have loyal pilots, as none of your members ever contacted us during either of those two operations. I was merely backing up several other posters points about your recruitment policys Ill quote you exactly: Quote: BYDI is by no means an easy corp to get into, however I guess that depends on your definition of easy. If your an excellent pvp'r, I would assume that most corps are fairly easy to get into, what is this like a RL corporation or something, lol? The thing that really makes me lol is your remark about people we fight being convo'd and asked to join, that is hilarious. BYDI recruitment is strictly by solid referral from current members only. Unless your talking about 4+ years ago, that is how we recruit. You recruitment through "solid referral from current members only" is undeniably a trawl through other peoples killboards, looking at the top ten killers and sending them a recruitment mail. You knew nothing about these pilots other then they were the top pilots of other corps. This policy was encouraged by paying your pilots to poach others - so its not surprising that people were mailing randoms to try to get them to join. I was merely pointing this out when you decided to act all indignant about your recruitment policy's. The statement "solid referral" was so laughable when my own random alt had received an invite I had to back up the other posters who were expressing their incredulity at it. How you can come out with that with a straight face i do not know. A trusted director dosent turn traitor so comprehensively after so many years without a reason. The op has suggested he does not like your methods in the light of uglucks semi retirement. IF the recruitment methods you championed are indicative of those methods, perhaps you may want to look inwards instead of simply burning the witch. However these are simply truthfull comments, and no smack intended - as I made clear - good luck to your corp. Ill bother this thread no more and take what wisdom you will from my posts. SKUNK (o)
kessah XERCORE Cult of War	Posted - 2009.07.16 12:09:00 - [146] Edited by: kessah on 16/07/2009 12:09:56 Originally by: Ugluuk Originally by: kessah Enjoy the isk, i hated bydi anyways. So hopefully what you did hurt them hard in game. No need to hate us because you didn`t get into Bydi.. As for the whole corp theft stuff i believe that this post has done it`s duty..The corp theft is known, Maddan will be remembered by the community atleast to the end of this week and Bydi got some ammo and mods to replace.. And to those hoping that this hurt the corp..He stole around 30 bill total and lots of it being mods..Im proud to have many very generous members who have replaced over 20bill so far.. So as it stands now we got more isk than we did before the corp theft because it aint locked up as mods in the hangar anymore.. Thanks guys! Sorry to necro, but i had to respond to this because its hilarious. I never wanted to join BYDI, for one id lose respect to alot of my friends in eve to a point where they'd prolly not speak to me again and i would not blame them. Second point is as someone stated earlier, your easier to get into than a drug addicted hooker. I even posted an alt looking for a corp in the recruitment thread with my alts attributes which were less than appealing (5m skill points) and you contacted me in game eager to accept me. So no i dont hate you because i didnt get into your little corp.
Aaknot	Posted - 2009.07.16 12:25:00 - [147] I wouldn't class 5 days as a necro tbh. But this thread was full of lulz, especially reading vill trying and failing to lie about the recruitment process.
Talianax Minmatar	Posted - 2009.07.16 13:14:00 - [148] Originally by: Maddan69 Originally by: Muad' Dib Originally by: Maddan69 Originally by: Villwrath For that, and for the guilt you will soon feel, should be punishment enough. Guilt? Its a video game meant to be played like one. GG? Ninja Fake Edit: I wish I could hear the ranting you must have been doing over the past few days. Also someone who was a corp theif lecturing someone about theifing is just... Villwrath? The same guy who stole from that Sundering Alliancewhen he was there just after they retreated out of Wicked Creek as Bob and MC zerged Iron out of Deklein? There was no ranting ... really. Lies... Vill not ranting about something is like a prositute not putting out on the first date.
Kenshiro Nishikaze	Posted - 2009.07.16 14:35:00 - [149] "People treat this game as a second job, I donÆt, I log on to pvp to see those internet spaceships go pew pew at each other. Thats it. Drama is drama which should be saved for RL not intertwined with a virtual game made up of pixels as you call it. Vill belittled me, I had enough and I did what I did. Was it the right thing to do? Probably not but hell might as well go out with a bang." - Mad There seems to be a disconnect in your message here...you begin by saying you just play a space game and leave drama for real life, but then you finish by telling us how someone hurt your feelings and so you struck out at them (drama). Plus, you went through the trouble of posting it on the boards (probably to save what little is left of your reputation)...which screams more drama. You are in conflict with yourself, grasshopper. :) Kenshiro - budding psychologist
Vertinox	Posted - 2009.07.16 16:26:00 - [150] Edited by: Vertinox on 16/07/2009 16:26:59 Originally by: Bisba If you have a problem with vill be a man and tell him your problem. I dunno. If I were a tyrannical CEO, I'd assume anyone questioning their concerns were tantamount to treason and should be removed from their position as soon as possible rendering any chance of this from happening. So if Madden was thinking what I was thinking, then he went with the best option possible with being able to get away with it. Of course he could have just said, "Mah account got haxed, sorry guys!" And then bought an alt player and sent all the money to that and started playing with them with a clean slate.

Speshtard Amarr Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2009.07.16 16:51:00 - [151] Originally by: Maddan69 I dont even care about the isk. Can I have some then? I'm poor
Drago Musevenii The Edain	Posted - 2009.07.16 17:20:00 - [152] If you guys need a new director to handle corp assets, I'm available :)
Taua Roqa Minmatar Planet Roqa	Posted - 2009.07.16 19:50:00 - [153] today i was playing monopoly with my mom and she was winning so i stole her 500 pound notes!
Ugluuk Caldari Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2009.07.18 00:38:00 - [154] Originally by: kessah Edited by: kessah on 16/07/2009 12:09:56 Originally by: Ugluuk Originally by: kessah Enjoy the isk, i hated bydi anyways. So hopefully what you did hurt them hard in game. No need to hate us because you didn`t get into Bydi.. As for the whole corp theft stuff i believe that this post has done it`s duty..The corp theft is known, Maddan will be remembered by the community atleast to the end of this week and Bydi got some ammo and mods to replace.. And to those hoping that this hurt the corp..He stole around 30 bill total and lots of it being mods..Im proud to have many very generous members who have replaced over 20bill so far.. So as it stands now we got more isk than we did before the corp theft because it aint locked up as mods in the hangar anymore.. Thanks guys! Sorry to necro, but i had to respond to this because its hilarious. I never wanted to join BYDI, for one id lose respect to alot of my friends in eve to a point where they'd prolly not speak to me again and i would not blame them. Second point is as someone stated earlier, your easier to get into than a drug addicted hooker. I even posted an alt looking for a corp in the recruitment thread with my alts attributes which were less than appealing (5m skill points) and you contacted me in game eager to accept me. So no i dont hate you because i didnt get into your little corp. So in other words, you got headhunted on a 5mill alt by the CEO of BYDI..A corp you really hate and yet you refused to join even tho being given the perfect opportunity to spy and get our capitals owned.. Im sure many people will believe that.. One positive thing about this tho: To take you in a lie dont mean anything as you are already on the bottom of the food chain.. You hate BYDI and i know the reason..But i dont accept people that whine more than i do..
The Pie Amarr Middle School Comedy Club	Posted - 2009.07.18 07:26:00 - [155] Villwrath... /shakes head
Forum Trashtalker	Posted - 2009.07.19 00:26:00 - [156] BUMP just for laffs
Rhadamantine Game Community	Posted - 2009.07.19 08:03:00 - [157] Originally by: Ugluuk So in other words, you got headhunted on a 5mill alt by the CEO of BYDI..A corp you really hate and yet you refused to join even tho being given the perfect opportunity to spy and get our capitals owned.. Im sure many people will believe that.. You would be surprised just how many in Eve, are not interested in meta gaming. Don't be under the false assumption, that because you do it, everyone else would. lol at this thread, good stuff.
Argo Nix Minmatar Ars Technica	Posted - 2009.07.19 22:43:00 - [158] Originally by: Taram Caldar Edited by: Taram Caldar on 06/07/2009 15:14:55 A corp thief always tries to justify their actions. In the end, they're still just a corp thief. Nothing justifies screwing your entire corporation over. Sorry to hear you guys got screwed. Nothing but respect for BYDI. Hint to the OP: When a corp changes away from what you joined for you find a new corp and politely say your goodbyes. If you have any class whatsoever. You don't go looting the entire corp to fatten your own wallet. ^This = True --------------- Argo Nix CEO - Ars Technica Providing High Quality Capital BPC Packs Ars Technica - Capital BPC Shop
MirrorGod Heretic Army	Posted - 2009.07.20 01:42:00 - [159] Edited by: MirrorGod on 20/07/2009 01:43:59 Originally by: Xianbei Originally by: RedSplat Cool Story Bro But really, why not stage a coup? jebus christ weren't you taking a break from eve ? you pop up to troll in every goddamn post in these forums. worse than goons. take the break & make it last this time Hey, my corp enjoys having it's own dedicated C&P troll I'll have you know. In all seriousness, theft of long-term relationships sucks. Sounds to me that you lost more than you gained. Balls to the people raging about "Old corp x and old corp y". Eve has evolved, if a corp's going to survive, tactics and strategy have to change too. Any other argument is just whine, to be honest. If you're having fun, I don't care if it's done with 10 pilots or 50. Op: Go you, spacechief.


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