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Joelleaveek
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.09.18 05:59:00 -
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Amarr Menza wrote:what is Gallente?
Never heard of them
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Deviana Sevidon
Panta-Rhei Butterfly Effect Alliance
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Posted - 2011.09.18 06:28:00 -
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Joss56 wrote:Deviana Sevidon wrote:Unfortunaly CCP will pretend the problem does not exist.
One of the reasons is, that it would indirectly mean the devs responsible for the balance have buffed missiles, projectile weapons and laser to much.
They could start by taking back the old resistance nerfs to shield and armor. Shields get 10% more explosive resistance and armor have +10% EM resistance again. Lasers would still be effective but would have a harder time against omni-tanked armor ships and minmatar projectile weapons would have more trouble with shield-ships. I would also recommend to make changes to EM ammo so that it deals more explo/kinetic and less EM to bring projectiles again in line with other weapons. Well when you use numbers and only believe on those then you are blind to anything else. So do graphics show hybrids being a good dps weapon system? -quite sure Do raw numbers show blasters are omgfkingpown? - very sure Do those graphics care about real game conditions? -impossible Hybrids shoot stuff and kill stuff so, for them everything goes like intended. For the meanwhile train minmatar, autocanons & artillery. Start having fun
I prefer to numbers, beliefs are for the church and I have also experience with autocannons and lasers. The numbers that many people showed each Gallente/Hybrid thread are correct and Gallente ships are in a lot of combat situations at a disadvantage. I do not say they are impossible to use, but certainly a worse choice then lasers or projectiles in almost any given situation. |
Trolls Troll
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.09.18 06:30:00 -
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Soundwave at Pax said they will probably maybe might possibly get a patch to look at them after Xmas. |
Tarikla
Projet Aurora
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Posted - 2011.09.18 12:33:00 -
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Bumping .
Even an "we can't tell you when , but we are looking at it" would be nice :) |
Alpheias
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Posted - 2011.09.18 12:44:00 -
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Because it takes CCP 10 months to change some numbers in the database.
GÖ½ When your ship gets blown to bits GÖ½ And you lose your Faction fits \Gÿ+/ Don't worry GÖ¬ GÖ½ GÖ¬ GÖ½ GÖ½ GÖ¬ GÖ½ GÖ¬ Be Happy \Gÿ+/ |
Chaos Incarnate
Faceless Logistics
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Posted - 2011.09.18 12:59:00 -
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Alpheias wrote:Because it takes CCP 10 months to change some numbers in the database.
you see, they have to fill out the change of number form in triplicate and submit it in-person to the mighty CCP database master. Unfortunately, he lives at the top of the tallest volcano in iceland, in a home accessible only by a mountainous path twice a year when the snows abate. Therefore, no balance changes ever.
haha, just kidding, they just have to press some buttons. Sucks to be us |
Alpheias
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Posted - 2011.09.18 13:04:00 -
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Chaos Incarnate wrote:Alpheias wrote:Because it takes CCP 10 months to change some numbers in the database. you see, they have to fill out the change of number form in triplicate and submit it in-person to the mighty CCP database master. Unfortunately, he lives at the top of the tallest volcano in iceland, in a home accessible only by a mountainous path twice a year when the snows abate. Therefore, no balance changes ever. haha, just kidding, they just have to press some buttons. Sucks to be us
There needs to be a Followship of the Database. You have my trollface.jpg if you carry the burden.
PS. Why do you have more likes than I?
GÖ½ When your ship gets blown to bits GÖ½ And you lose your Faction fits \Gÿ+/ Don't worry GÖ¬ GÖ½ GÖ¬ GÖ½ GÖ½ GÖ¬ GÖ½ GÖ¬ Be Happy \Gÿ+/ |
Chaos Incarnate
Faceless Logistics
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Posted - 2011.09.18 13:09:00 -
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Alpheias wrote:Chaos Incarnate wrote:Alpheias wrote:Because it takes CCP 10 months to change some numbers in the database. you see, they have to fill out the change of number form in triplicate and submit it in-person to the mighty CCP database master. Unfortunately, he lives at the top of the tallest volcano in iceland, in a home accessible only by a mountainous path twice a year when the snows abate. Therefore, no balance changes ever. haha, just kidding, they just have to press some buttons. Sucks to be us There needs to be a Followship of the Database. You have my trollface.jpg if you carry the burden. PS. Why do you have more likes than I?
Hey, do i look like a hobbit to you? I'm Aragorn, i get to bang the sexy elf and bring peace and prosperity to the realms of men.
(also, i have more likes because i'm a better poster, everyone knows it. Haha, just kidding, the likes system is useless) |
Grimpak
Midnight Elites Echelon Rising
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Posted - 2011.09.18 13:10:00 -
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Alpheias wrote:Chaos Incarnate wrote:Alpheias wrote:Because it takes CCP 10 months to change some numbers in the database. you see, they have to fill out the change of number form in triplicate and submit it in-person to the mighty CCP database master. Unfortunately, he lives at the top of the tallest volcano in iceland, in a home accessible only by a mountainous path twice a year when the snows abate. Therefore, no balance changes ever. haha, just kidding, they just have to press some buttons. Sucks to be us There needs to be a Followship of the Database. You have my trollface.jpg if you carry the burden. PS. Why do you have more likes than I?
it's TEH FACE.
TROLLFACE. [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |
Alpheias
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Posted - 2011.09.18 13:12:00 -
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Chaos Incarnate wrote:Alpheias wrote:Chaos Incarnate wrote:Alpheias wrote:Because it takes CCP 10 months to change some numbers in the database. you see, they have to fill out the change of number form in triplicate and submit it in-person to the mighty CCP database master. Unfortunately, he lives at the top of the tallest volcano in iceland, in a home accessible only by a mountainous path twice a year when the snows abate. Therefore, no balance changes ever. haha, just kidding, they just have to press some buttons. Sucks to be us There needs to be a Followship of the Database. You have my trollface.jpg if you carry the burden. PS. Why do you have more likes than I? Hey, do i look like a hobbit to you? I'm Aragorn, i get to bang the sexy elf and bring peace and prosperity to the realms of men. (also, i have more likes because i'm a better poster, everyone knows it. Haha, just kidding, the likes system is useless)
And the sexy elf would be Milla, in bold yellow capital letters?
GÖ½ When your ship gets blown to bits GÖ½ And you lose your Faction fits \Gÿ+/ Don't worry GÖ¬ GÖ½ GÖ¬ GÖ½ GÖ½ GÖ¬ GÖ½ GÖ¬ Be Happy \Gÿ+/ |
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Chaos Incarnate
Faceless Logistics
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Posted - 2011.09.18 13:13:00 -
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Alpheias wrote:And the sexy elf would be Milla, in bold yellow capital letters?
you've now destroyed lord of the rings for me forever
I HOPE YOU ARE HAPPY
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Alpheias
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Posted - 2011.09.18 13:15:00 -
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Chaos Incarnate wrote:Alpheias wrote:And the sexy elf would be Milla, in bold yellow capital letters? you've now destroyed lord of the rings for me forever I HOPE YOU ARE HAPPY
Happy as a clam, in butter, awaiting to delight you.
GÖ½ When your ship gets blown to bits GÖ½ And you lose your Faction fits \Gÿ+/ Don't worry GÖ¬ GÖ½ GÖ¬ GÖ½ GÖ½ GÖ¬ GÖ½ GÖ¬ Be Happy \Gÿ+/ |
Grimpak
Midnight Elites Echelon Rising
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Posted - 2011.09.18 13:15:00 -
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Chaos Incarnate wrote:Alpheias wrote:And the sexy elf would be Milla, in bold yellow capital letters? you've now destroyed lord of the rings for me forever I HOPE YOU ARE HAPPY Alpheias wins!
BRUTALITY [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |
Astenion
Spiritus Draconis
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Posted - 2011.09.18 13:26:00 -
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You know there's something wrong when you're in a Gallente FW corp and you constantly end up fielding Minmatar and Amarr ships instead of Gallente.
I seriously think that the only use for Gallente ships is running missions, and high sec missions at that because they definitely are as useless as a screen door on a submarine for PvP. |
Alpheias
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Posted - 2011.09.18 13:29:00 -
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Astenion wrote:
I seriously think that the only use for Gallente ships is running missions, and high sec missions at that because they definitely are as useless as a screen door on a submarine for PvP.
The bitterness is reaching corrosive levels.
GÖ½ When your ship gets blown to bits GÖ½ And you lose your Faction fits \Gÿ+/ Don't worry GÖ¬ GÖ½ GÖ¬ GÖ½ GÖ½ GÖ¬ GÖ½ GÖ¬ Be Happy \Gÿ+/ |
Chaos Incarnate
Faceless Logistics
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Posted - 2011.09.18 13:29:00 -
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Grimpak wrote:Chaos Incarnate wrote:Alpheias wrote:And the sexy elf would be Milla, in bold yellow capital letters? you've now destroyed lord of the rings for me forever I HOPE YOU ARE HAPPY Alpheias wins! BRUTALITY
he invoked millia man, nobody wins when you do that
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Astenion
Spiritus Draconis
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Posted - 2011.09.18 13:34:00 -
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Well Alpheias, not really. I mean, it is what it is. I still like Gallente ships but unless you jump someone in a 2v1, you're probably going to die. I don't think they need to be buffed THAT much but a little help would be definitely appreciated...maybe more powergrid or resists if not more DPS. |
Deviana Sevidon
Panta-Rhei Butterfly Effect Alliance
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Posted - 2011.09.18 14:09:00 -
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Issues - Low optimal and falloff makes it hard for blasters to apply their their theoretically high DPS - Tracking problems within the weapons optimal ranges - Powergrid and CPU fitting issues, often both on Gallente ships - Shield and Armor resists favor often explo or EM damage - Armor tanking makes Gallente ships slow, especially with plates, further increasing the range issues of blasters - High capacitor use, create cap problems, especially when ships are required to use MWD to get into range - Railguns have a poor tracking and only medium damage, which makes them overall ineffective. - Gallente primary EW was double nerfed into near uselessness - Information Warfare command bonuses are the least used of all command ship bonuses - Active armor repair bonus are effectively wasted - Myrmidon drone bandwith was nerfed to hell, just to remove one of the last viable Gallente PvP ships.
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Large Collidable Object
morons.
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Posted - 2011.09.18 15:23:00 -
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Deviana Sevidon wrote: - Myrmidon drone bandwith was nerfed to hell, just to remove one of the last viable Gallente PvP ships.
Heh - whoever came up with that 75 mbit bandwidth must be the biggest sadist alive.
I bet every three-legged kitten in Reykjavik ows it's existence to this man.
morons-áare recruiting. We're good at breeding! |
Aloe Cloveris
The Greater Goon Clockwork Pineapple
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Posted - 2011.09.18 17:14:00 -
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Joelleaveek wrote:I think there needs to be some sort of tracking buff with blasters, since when you fight at ranges that close transversal velocity becomes a problem and extra tracking is needed to compensate.
Yeah, the tracking mechanics in this game cripple med/large blasters because transversal ramps waaaay the **** up at close range and that's really superdumb and counter-intuitive.
90% webs were why blasters were once functional. Vigilant (only 3x the cost of a Diemost!) and Vindicator (a mere 10x the cost of a Mega)* are Gallentean hulls done right.
Small blasters are fine.
* at least Megas have an inherent tracking bonus so there's that I guess v0v
Alpheias wrote:Because it takes CCP 10 months to change some numbers in the database.
Hey CCP? Open the database entries for the medium and large hybrid turrets, mash numpad with the flat of your palm and presto! Fixed.
Literally any change to hybrids & related hulls would be a bloody improvement.
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CCP Zymurgist
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.09.18 17:48:00 -
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Joelleaveek wrote:So with all this Dev attention in GD today, i though maybe it would be a good time to ask if a Gallente and/or hybrid turret fix is being planned for the near term. I think many Gallente agree that some kind of fix is needed here.
I love me some Hybrids! *insert random GIR noises from Invader Zim here*
Also CCP Soundwave mentioned in an interview at PAX this year that, "After Christmas, there will probably be some changes pushed out to fix this issue." In response to a question about Hybrids. Zymurgist Community Representative CCP NA, EVE Online Contact Us at http://support.eveonline.com/pages/petitions/createpetition.aspx |
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Tobias Sjodin
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.09.18 18:26:00 -
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I love the "probably" in that sentence. |
Varesk
Maelstrom Crew
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Posted - 2011.09.18 18:28:00 -
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I personally have no problem fitting a fully t2 fit Megathron with Heavy Neutron Blaster IIs. I even have enough pg/cpu for a Nuet or RR if needed. The Mega is fine and blasters are fine. You can even fit drones, 125m3 of them. So you have a great selection of drones to complement your set up.
Rails suck.
So fix rails, leave blasters alone.
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Deviana Sevidon
Panta-Rhei Butterfly Effect Alliance
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Posted - 2011.09.18 18:49:00 -
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Varesk wrote:I personally have no problem fitting a fully t2 fit Megathron with Heavy Neutron Blaster IIs. I even have enough pg/cpu for a Nuet or RR if needed. The Mega is fine and blasters are fine. You can even fit drones, 125m3 of them. So you have a great selection of drones to complement your set up.
Rails suck.
So fix rails, leave blasters alone.
It is not just the Megathron and Blasters are certainly not fine. In a RR fleet you have probably at least a single plate, probably more and your ship is slow a slow ass l and with a weapon system that can barely hit anyhting above the 20km range, a blaster mega is not a good choice for a RR fleet because of these penalties.
Also the problem with blasters is not just the mega, brutix, die-most, hyperion are also supposed to be blaster ships. Only that the mega is one of the better among a number of poor choices does not say blasters are fine. |
Amantus
Malignant Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.09.18 19:06:00 -
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eve online |
Aloe Cloveris
The Greater Goon Clockwork Pineapple
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Posted - 2011.09.18 19:14:00 -
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video games |
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.09.18 19:17:00 -
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Deviana Sevidon wrote:Varesk wrote:I personally have no problem fitting a fully t2 fit Megathron with Heavy Neutron Blaster IIs. I even have enough pg/cpu for a Nuet or RR if needed. The Mega is fine and blasters are fine. You can even fit drones, 125m3 of them. So you have a great selection of drones to complement your set up.
Rails suck.
So fix rails, leave blasters alone.
It is not just the Megathron and Blasters are certainly not fine. In a RR fleet you have probably at least a single plate, probably more and your ship is slow a slow ass l and with a weapon system that can barely hit anyhting above the 20km range, a blaster mega is not a good choice for a RR fleet because of these penalties. Also the problem with blasters is not just the mega, brutix, die-most, hyperion are also supposed to be blaster ships. Only that the mega is one of the better among a number of poor choices does not say blasters are fine.
Have to agree with Deviana here. You either have a slow RR fleet or you exclude Gallente.
And lets not forget light and medium blasters. Light blasters have an optimal range somewhere just past the sigmoid colon of the target. 1km - 3km. Medium blasters, while having slightly better optimal have really poor tracking for the range they have to work with. Even with a +5% implant for tracking and uber hybrid skills I can't orbit a target without missing half the time and the other half taking serious hits to dps using mediums. And this is without using AB or MWD. That's just ridiculous that Gallente are required to sit still completely unable to utilize other weapon systems' shortcomings which effectively bolsters your enemy's DPS. We want breast augmentations and sluttier clothing in the NeX! |
Joelleaveek
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.09.18 19:18:00 -
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CCP Zymurgist wrote:Joelleaveek wrote:So with all this Dev attention in GD today, i though maybe it would be a good time to ask if a Gallente and/or hybrid turret fix is being planned for the near term. I think many Gallente agree that some kind of fix is needed here. I love me some Hybrids! *insert random GIR noises from Invader Zim here* Also CCP Soundwave mentioned in an interview at PAX this year that, "After Christmas, there will probably be some changes pushed out to fix this issue." In response to a question about Hybrids.
Thank you for this response Mr. Zymurgist. Nice to know the issue is at least on the radar. |
Amantus
Malignant Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.09.18 19:26:00 -
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lol |
Fawcks
Avoid and Evade Epsilon Shimmy Alliance
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Posted - 2011.09.18 19:39:00 -
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Demon Azrakel wrote:Missiles still let you choose to shoot at your opponent's resistance hole My heat-seeking love rocket always goes for my opponent's resistance hole. |
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