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Zak Kingsman
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Posted - 2004.09.25 02:27:00 -
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Edited by: Zak Kingsman on 25/09/2004 02:39:13 shadowsword could you post the races for each ship as well so I know for sure instead of making educated guesses? And hulls too.
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Zak Kingsman
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Posted - 2004.09.25 02:27:00 -
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Edited by: Zak Kingsman on 25/09/2004 02:39:13 shadowsword could you post the races for each ship as well so I know for sure instead of making educated guesses? And hulls too.
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SLIM
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Posted - 2004.09.25 02:45:00 -
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It's in this order, with two per category (obviously): minmatar gallente amarr caldari
The bonuses make them pretty self evident though. ---------------------------
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SLIM
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Posted - 2004.09.25 02:45:00 -
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It's in this order, with two per category (obviously): minmatar gallente amarr caldari
The bonuses make them pretty self evident though. ---------------------------
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Jalvon Ryder
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Posted - 2004.09.25 02:49:00 -
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The homestead webbie with screenshots is down due to high traffic....
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Jalvon Ryder
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Posted - 2004.09.25 02:49:00 -
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The homestead webbie with screenshots is down due to high traffic....
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GeorgeZ
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Posted - 2004.09.25 04:36:00 -
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Edited by: GeorgeZ on 25/09/2004 04:43:23
I think the Sacrilige is kind of wierd, it too spread out with the bonuses. I mean it got great aromr resistence but it got lower armor then shields. And for the turrets its got only a range bonus no dmg bonus. From how I see it this ship aint gonna be able to compete with other heavy assualt ships.. not against a zealot or a demois even with its high armor resistences (before some guy askes this question.. the answer is: no I have not flown the ship and yes I could be wrong )
Anyways... the Zealot rocks!!!!
BTW when are this ships comming out? BTW
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GeorgeZ
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Posted - 2004.09.25 04:36:00 -
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Edited by: GeorgeZ on 25/09/2004 04:43:23
I think the Sacrilige is kind of wierd, it too spread out with the bonuses. I mean it got great aromr resistence but it got lower armor then shields. And for the turrets its got only a range bonus no dmg bonus. From how I see it this ship aint gonna be able to compete with other heavy assualt ships.. not against a zealot or a demois even with its high armor resistences (before some guy askes this question.. the answer is: no I have not flown the ship and yes I could be wrong )
Anyways... the Zealot rocks!!!!
BTW when are this ships comming out? BTW
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SLIM
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Posted - 2004.09.25 05:13:00 -
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Originally by: GeorgeZ Edited by: GeorgeZ on 25/09/2004 04:43:23
I think the Sacrilige is kind of wierd, it too spread out with the bonuses. I mean it got great aromr resistence but it got lower armor then shields. And for the turrets its got only a range bonus no dmg bonus. From how I see it this ship aint gonna be able to compete with other heavy assualt ships.. not against a zealot or a demois even with its high armor resistences (before some guy askes this question.. the answer is: no I have not flown the ship and yes I could be wrong )
Anyways... the Zealot rocks!!!!
BTW when are this ships comming out? BTW
I agree, the zealot rocks, but the sacrilege is equally nasty I think. All its base resists will be above 50%. Then there's the fact that it gets 2 extra missile slots above the zealot, there's a damage bonus for you.  ---------------------------
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SLIM
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Posted - 2004.09.25 05:13:00 -
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Originally by: GeorgeZ Edited by: GeorgeZ on 25/09/2004 04:43:23
I think the Sacrilige is kind of wierd, it too spread out with the bonuses. I mean it got great aromr resistence but it got lower armor then shields. And for the turrets its got only a range bonus no dmg bonus. From how I see it this ship aint gonna be able to compete with other heavy assualt ships.. not against a zealot or a demois even with its high armor resistences (before some guy askes this question.. the answer is: no I have not flown the ship and yes I could be wrong )
Anyways... the Zealot rocks!!!!
BTW when are this ships comming out? BTW
I agree, the zealot rocks, but the sacrilege is equally nasty I think. All its base resists will be above 50%. Then there's the fact that it gets 2 extra missile slots above the zealot, there's a damage bonus for you.  ---------------------------
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Selim
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Posted - 2004.09.25 06:47:00 -
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Zealots only got 4 guns, though. Sacrilege looks pretty nice.
I'd say they all seem to have their uses.
The Eagle (moa)looks like its a super long range sniper... The Caracal one's obviously the missile king. The Vagabond (stabber) is a good skirmish ship - quick, versatile and powerful. The Rupture one is obviously an artillery deathship. Hell, even though artillery and projectiles suck, the bonuses might actually make them decent.
The Thorax... well its going to be a nightmare. Heavy Ions or Neutrons on that thing are going to be the worst nightmare of everyone. A heavy ion with a damage bonus and rate of fire bonus will actually outdamage even a neutron blaster on a megathron.
The Ishtar (vexor) looks very specialized as a long range drone ship. It potentially can hold 5000 m3 of drones while using 15 at once. 15 heavy drones takes up 3750, leaving 1250 space left for replacements or light drones. Heavy Drones on an ishtar would have a max range of over 50km. I'd say this would be a fearsome opponent.
Zealot is obviously the laser and armor king. Only having 4 turrets, however, will limit its damage potential, but its certainly going to be an excellent tank, with 7 lowslots.
And the Sacrilege, probably the oddest Amarr ship I have ever seen. Its going to be extremely hard to kill, shields or armor.
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Selim
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Posted - 2004.09.25 06:47:00 -
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Zealots only got 4 guns, though. Sacrilege looks pretty nice.
I'd say they all seem to have their uses.
The Eagle (moa)looks like its a super long range sniper... The Caracal one's obviously the missile king. The Vagabond (stabber) is a good skirmish ship - quick, versatile and powerful. The Rupture one is obviously an artillery deathship. Hell, even though artillery and projectiles suck, the bonuses might actually make them decent.
The Thorax... well its going to be a nightmare. Heavy Ions or Neutrons on that thing are going to be the worst nightmare of everyone. A heavy ion with a damage bonus and rate of fire bonus will actually outdamage even a neutron blaster on a megathron.
The Ishtar (vexor) looks very specialized as a long range drone ship. It potentially can hold 5000 m3 of drones while using 15 at once. 15 heavy drones takes up 3750, leaving 1250 space left for replacements or light drones. Heavy Drones on an ishtar would have a max range of over 50km. I'd say this would be a fearsome opponent.
Zealot is obviously the laser and armor king. Only having 4 turrets, however, will limit its damage potential, but its certainly going to be an excellent tank, with 7 lowslots.
And the Sacrilege, probably the oddest Amarr ship I have ever seen. Its going to be extremely hard to kill, shields or armor.
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Shadowsword
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Posted - 2004.09.25 08:02:00 -
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Originally by: Selim The Thorax... well its going to be a nightmare. Heavy Ions or Neutrons on that thing are going to be the worst nightmare of everyone. A heavy ion with a damage bonus and rate of fire bonus will actually outdamage even a neutron blaster on a megathron.
Actually the Deimos got 2 damage bonuses, not a damage and a RoF one, and I don't think it will do more damage than a mega neutron blaster on a Mega. I think they'll do approximatively the same DoT. For the rest.
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Shadowsword
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Posted - 2004.09.25 08:02:00 -
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Originally by: Selim The Thorax... well its going to be a nightmare. Heavy Ions or Neutrons on that thing are going to be the worst nightmare of everyone. A heavy ion with a damage bonus and rate of fire bonus will actually outdamage even a neutron blaster on a megathron.
Actually the Deimos got 2 damage bonuses, not a damage and a RoF one, and I don't think it will do more damage than a mega neutron blaster on a Mega. I think they'll do approximatively the same DoT. For the rest.
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Celt Eireson
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Posted - 2004.09.25 10:07:00 -
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May not see them for quite a while even if they are released on the 28th. The assault frigates needed level 5 frigate construction, these might need level 5 cruiser construction, and I doubt many, if any, have got that skill trained to level 5 yet even if it its out yet?
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Celt Eireson
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Posted - 2004.09.25 10:07:00 -
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May not see them for quite a while even if they are released on the 28th. The assault frigates needed level 5 frigate construction, these might need level 5 cruiser construction, and I doubt many, if any, have got that skill trained to level 5 yet even if it its out yet?
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fairimear
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Posted - 2004.09.25 10:09:00 -
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i kinda hope we dont see them for a month even if they r ingame. atleast i can get a large ammount of the skills done then.
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fairimear
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Posted - 2004.09.25 10:09:00 -
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i kinda hope we dont see them for a month even if they r ingame. atleast i can get a large ammount of the skills done then.
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Lagar
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Posted - 2004.09.25 11:39:00 -
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dont worry you will have advanced learning before that :)
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Lagar
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Posted - 2004.09.25 11:39:00 -
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dont worry you will have advanced learning before that :)
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fairimear
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Posted - 2004.09.25 12:54:00 -
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my learning timetable is engi 5 and mech 5. assault ship 2-3. adv perception. gallente cruiser v. adv intel h assault 3-4.

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fairimear
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Posted - 2004.09.25 12:54:00 -
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my learning timetable is engi 5 and mech 5. assault ship 2-3. adv perception. gallente cruiser v. adv intel h assault 3-4.

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Discorporation
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Posted - 2004.09.25 12:57:00 -
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I want them all.
4 hi slots is a bit of a shame, but I'm sure we can cram heavy beam lasers in there. 7 lo-slots is a godsend on a cruiser. A medium armor repairer, three Energised Nano II's and some heat sinks = win.
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2004.09.25 12:57:00 -
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I want them all.
4 hi slots is a bit of a shame, but I'm sure we can cram heavy beam lasers in there. 7 lo-slots is a godsend on a cruiser. A medium armor repairer, three Energised Nano II's and some heat sinks = win.
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Directive
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Posted - 2004.09.25 13:28:00 -
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Bet they'll cost 200m at start... Or more. If assault frigates go for nearly the price of a Tier1 BS at worst, what will these go for?
Still, got my preliminary Deimos fitting done 
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Directive
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Posted - 2004.09.25 13:28:00 -
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Bet they'll cost 200m at start... Or more. If assault frigates go for nearly the price of a Tier1 BS at worst, what will these go for?
Still, got my preliminary Deimos fitting done 
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Devineflid
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Posted - 2004.09.25 17:56:00 -
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the rupture hull ship will be a beast after shiva, as projectile weapons are supposedly getting some love.
i am also confused about the bonuses of the sacrilege, but i suppose something with that high armor resistances needs a little less armor to not be invulnerable....or something, i nanoswonder if you could cram it full of adaptive nanos and turn it's armor resistances into a polaris.
you do the maths, i'm too lazy ==============================================
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Devineflid
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Posted - 2004.09.25 17:56:00 -
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the rupture hull ship will be a beast after shiva, as projectile weapons are supposedly getting some love.
i am also confused about the bonuses of the sacrilege, but i suppose something with that high armor resistances needs a little less armor to not be invulnerable....or something, i nanoswonder if you could cram it full of adaptive nanos and turn it's armor resistances into a polaris.
you do the maths, i'm too lazy ==============================================
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KingsGambit
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Posted - 2004.09.25 18:22:00 -
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Edited by: KingsGambit on 25/09/2004 18:39:18 I've posted screenshots of all 8 assault cruisers, which can be found by clicking here.
And from stats, I think the Munin is an awesome ship, though the Sacrilege, Eagle and Deimos are pretty hot too. Might even be worth training for one...but then cruiser & weapon upgrades 5....maybe not. 
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KingsGambit
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Posted - 2004.09.25 18:22:00 -
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Edited by: KingsGambit on 25/09/2004 18:39:18 I've posted screenshots of all 8 assault cruisers, which can be found by clicking here.
And from stats, I think the Munin is an awesome ship, though the Sacrilege, Eagle and Deimos are pretty hot too. Might even be worth training for one...but then cruiser & weapon upgrades 5....maybe not. 
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