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Shevar
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Posted - 2004.09.24 13:57:00 -
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Originally by: Arud
more importantly for me to fly a for example a minmatar heavy assault ship I need these skills
Amarr frig 5 Assault Frig 4
and when I have that hell I can fly all the other heavy assault ships since race specific skills only require me to train them to lvl2
Why would you need amarr frig5? You do need assault frig4 yes, but I don't see why you would say you would need amarr frig5 to fly minmatar battlecruisers... -------- -The only real drug problem is scoring real good drugs
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Shevar
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Posted - 2004.09.24 13:57:00 -
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Originally by: Arud
more importantly for me to fly a for example a minmatar heavy assault ship I need these skills
Amarr frig 5 Assault Frig 4
and when I have that hell I can fly all the other heavy assault ships since race specific skills only require me to train them to lvl2
Why would you need amarr frig5? You do need assault frig4 yes, but I don't see why you would say you would need amarr frig5 to fly minmatar battlecruisers... -------- -The only real drug problem is scoring real good drugs
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Erucyll Turon
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Posted - 2004.09.24 13:59:00 -
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Edited by: Erucyll Turon on 24/09/2004 14:02:53 im guessing he means mimnatar..... who cares were not talkin bout certain races were talking bout the skills being so god damn high..
but need he races frig skill at lvl 5 to train assault frigs..
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Erucyll Turon
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Posted - 2004.09.24 13:59:00 -
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Edited by: Erucyll Turon on 24/09/2004 14:02:53 im guessing he means mimnatar..... who cares were not talkin bout certain races were talking bout the skills being so god damn high..
but need he races frig skill at lvl 5 to train assault frigs..
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Tarm
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Posted - 2004.09.24 14:01:00 -
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Edited by: Tarm on 24/09/2004 14:04:23
Originally by: Erucyll Turon because u need amarr frig 5 to train amarr assault frig's 
You do not need to train a frigate skill to train the Assault Ship skill. The Assault Ship skill only requires Mechanic and Engineering lvl 5.
The ship itself requires the ship requirement. I.E. frigates require frigate lvl 5, cruisers require cruisers lvl 5.
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Tarm
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Posted - 2004.09.24 14:01:00 -
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Edited by: Tarm on 24/09/2004 14:04:23
Originally by: Erucyll Turon because u need amarr frig 5 to train amarr assault frig's 
You do not need to train a frigate skill to train the Assault Ship skill. The Assault Ship skill only requires Mechanic and Engineering lvl 5.
The ship itself requires the ship requirement. I.E. frigates require frigate lvl 5, cruisers require cruisers lvl 5.
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Erucyll Turon
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Posted - 2004.09.24 14:02:00 -
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sorry im thinking of interceptors 
god damn it im never right 
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Erucyll Turon
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Posted - 2004.09.24 14:02:00 -
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sorry im thinking of interceptors 
god damn it im never right 
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Shevar
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Posted - 2004.09.24 14:03:00 -
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Originally by: Bad'Boy some1, plz post pictures....PLZ!
Some1, plz delete those dotz.... PLZ!! -------- -The only real drug problem is scoring real good drugs
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Shevar
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Posted - 2004.09.24 14:03:00 -
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Originally by: Bad'Boy some1, plz post pictures....PLZ!
Some1, plz delete those dotz.... PLZ!! -------- -The only real drug problem is scoring real good drugs
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Arud
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Posted - 2004.09.24 14:09:00 -
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Originally by: Tarm Edited by: Tarm on 24/09/2004 14:04:23
Originally by: Erucyll Turon because u need amarr frig 5 to train amarr assault frig's 
You do not need to train a frigate skill to train the Assault Ship skill. The Assault Ship skill only requires Mechanic and Engineering lvl 5.
The ship itself requires the ship requirement. I.E. frigates require frigate lvl 5, cruisers require cruisers lvl 5.
ah forgot about that since I havent bothered training the skill myself :P
but a bit odd though that as long as you got all the other reuqirement you only need a crusier lvl2 to fly each race ship. Something is wrong here.
Tomb.... Tomb.... where are you? 
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Arud
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Posted - 2004.09.24 14:09:00 -
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Originally by: Tarm Edited by: Tarm on 24/09/2004 14:04:23
Originally by: Erucyll Turon because u need amarr frig 5 to train amarr assault frig's 
You do not need to train a frigate skill to train the Assault Ship skill. The Assault Ship skill only requires Mechanic and Engineering lvl 5.
The ship itself requires the ship requirement. I.E. frigates require frigate lvl 5, cruisers require cruisers lvl 5.
ah forgot about that since I havent bothered training the skill myself :P
but a bit odd though that as long as you got all the other reuqirement you only need a crusier lvl2 to fly each race ship. Something is wrong here.
Tomb.... Tomb.... where are you? 
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Tarm
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Posted - 2004.09.24 14:11:00 -
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Originally by: Arud
ah forgot about that since I havent bothered training the skill myself :P
but a bit odd though that as long as you got all the other reuqirement you only need a crusier lvl2 to fly each race ship. Something is wrong here.
Tomb.... Tomb.... where are you? 
Like I said in my above post, I think it isn't correct. I have a feeling the requirements will be the following:
Cruiser lvl 5 Assault Ships lvl 4 (and associated skill requirements) Starship Command lvl 5
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Tarm
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Posted - 2004.09.24 14:11:00 -
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Originally by: Arud
ah forgot about that since I havent bothered training the skill myself :P
but a bit odd though that as long as you got all the other reuqirement you only need a crusier lvl2 to fly each race ship. Something is wrong here.
Tomb.... Tomb.... where are you? 
Like I said in my above post, I think it isn't correct. I have a feeling the requirements will be the following:
Cruiser lvl 5 Assault Ships lvl 4 (and associated skill requirements) Starship Command lvl 5
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Arud
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Posted - 2004.09.24 14:14:00 -
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Originally by: Tarm
Originally by: Arud
ah forgot about that since I havent bothered training the skill myself :P
but a bit odd though that as long as you got all the other reuqirement you only need a crusier lvl2 to fly each race ship. Something is wrong here.
Tomb.... Tomb.... where are you? 
Like I said in my above post, I think it isn't correct. I have a feeling the requirements will be the following:
Cruiser lvl 5 Assault Ships lvl 4 (and associated skill requirements) Starship Command lvl 5
and heavy assault ship lvl 1
thats my guess
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Arud
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Posted - 2004.09.24 14:14:00 -
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Originally by: Tarm
Originally by: Arud
ah forgot about that since I havent bothered training the skill myself :P
but a bit odd though that as long as you got all the other reuqirement you only need a crusier lvl2 to fly each race ship. Something is wrong here.
Tomb.... Tomb.... where are you? 
Like I said in my above post, I think it isn't correct. I have a feeling the requirements will be the following:
Cruiser lvl 5 Assault Ships lvl 4 (and associated skill requirements) Starship Command lvl 5
and heavy assault ship lvl 1
thats my guess
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DarkMatters
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Posted - 2004.09.24 14:15:00 -
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Originally by: Teeth The rupture hull one's a bit ****ty. 4 low slots? Tracking bonus?
It does have 5 turret slots but then again it's an assault ship. Some feedback for CCP, if it's gonna be a long range ship (with the optimal bonus it seems like it will be) change the tracking bonus on it to a damage bonus. I almost think the stabber's gonna be the prize pick of the minnie ships as a fast cruiser that can actually fit stuff.
The maller's pretty sweet best minitank this side of battleships. The vexor's pretty good too with the ability to field what, like 14 drones at 65km with a 5000 drone bay? The caracal's good too. Now about the rank 6 skill at level 5... I hope they're gonna change that to 4. :-/
your joking i take it? heres the ruptor hulls bonuses
Minmatar Cruiser Skill Bonus: 5% bonus to Medium Projectile Turret rate of fire and 5% bonus to Medium Projectile Turret damage per level
Heavy Assault Ship Skill Bonus: 10% bonus to Medium Projectile Turret optimal range and 5% bonus to Medium Projectile Turret tracking speed per level
so you have 4 (every single bonus) to your ships guns, do you realise how much damage thats going to be able to put out?
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DarkMatters
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Posted - 2004.09.24 14:15:00 -
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Originally by: Teeth The rupture hull one's a bit ****ty. 4 low slots? Tracking bonus?
It does have 5 turret slots but then again it's an assault ship. Some feedback for CCP, if it's gonna be a long range ship (with the optimal bonus it seems like it will be) change the tracking bonus on it to a damage bonus. I almost think the stabber's gonna be the prize pick of the minnie ships as a fast cruiser that can actually fit stuff.
The maller's pretty sweet best minitank this side of battleships. The vexor's pretty good too with the ability to field what, like 14 drones at 65km with a 5000 drone bay? The caracal's good too. Now about the rank 6 skill at level 5... I hope they're gonna change that to 4. :-/
your joking i take it? heres the ruptor hulls bonuses
Minmatar Cruiser Skill Bonus: 5% bonus to Medium Projectile Turret rate of fire and 5% bonus to Medium Projectile Turret damage per level
Heavy Assault Ship Skill Bonus: 10% bonus to Medium Projectile Turret optimal range and 5% bonus to Medium Projectile Turret tracking speed per level
so you have 4 (every single bonus) to your ships guns, do you realise how much damage thats going to be able to put out?
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temp1
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Posted - 2004.09.24 14:43:00 -
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if i've got this right, taking the amarr ship bonus for 5% damage resist per level (25% if you need cruiser level 5), the sacrilege will get armour resists of
70% EM 85% Explosive 71.875% kinetic 51.25% thermal
So no need for additional hardners if you don't want them. Throw a thermal hardner and a tech 2 energised nano membrane and if I'm right you get
76% EM 88% Explosive 77.5% Kinetic 84.5% thermal
If this is right then it will be as the write up says "a monster". Add the khanid paint job and this is the ship I want 
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temp1
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Posted - 2004.09.24 14:43:00 -
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if i've got this right, taking the amarr ship bonus for 5% damage resist per level (25% if you need cruiser level 5), the sacrilege will get armour resists of
70% EM 85% Explosive 71.875% kinetic 51.25% thermal
So no need for additional hardners if you don't want them. Throw a thermal hardner and a tech 2 energised nano membrane and if I'm right you get
76% EM 88% Explosive 77.5% Kinetic 84.5% thermal
If this is right then it will be as the write up says "a monster". Add the khanid paint job and this is the ship I want 
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throbbinnoggin
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Posted - 2004.09.24 14:54:00 -
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B4 anyone gets too excited anyone wanna take a guess as to the price tag of one of these babies. How about insurance coverage or as I predict the relative lack thereof. While I admit the Sacrilege has got my mouth watering the initial cost as well as the pain of loosing 1 is a primary consideration for me.
Screenies:
http://hstrial-eve.homestead.com/index.html
Just in case if someone could take these and post to an unlimited page (this one has 1 Gig I learned) that would be best. BTW this is/was my 1st attempt at setting up a webpage in any manner so forgive the ignorant noob. Tis better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt. 'Abraham Lincoln'
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throbbinnoggin
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Posted - 2004.09.24 14:54:00 -
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B4 anyone gets too excited anyone wanna take a guess as to the price tag of one of these babies. How about insurance coverage or as I predict the relative lack thereof. While I admit the Sacrilege has got my mouth watering the initial cost as well as the pain of loosing 1 is a primary consideration for me.
Screenies:
http://hstrial-eve.homestead.com/index.html
Just in case if someone could take these and post to an unlimited page (this one has 1 Gig I learned) that would be best. BTW this is/was my 1st attempt at setting up a webpage in any manner so forgive the ignorant noob. Tis better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt. 'Abraham Lincoln'
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Damocles Ician
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Posted - 2004.09.24 15:09:00 -
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The Ishtar drone bonuse doesn't feel enough. Maybe 5% extra to drone damage instead of the drone size bonus, or even another +1 drone control per level (yeah - think of the lag!)
I notice the vagabond is classed as a patrol cruiser, but I imagine most things will get looked at strongly before being released to us! I reckon the Amarr ships are definitely coming out tops with this range of ships. Both of theirs look nails. -------------
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Damocles Ician
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Posted - 2004.09.24 15:09:00 -
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The Ishtar drone bonuse doesn't feel enough. Maybe 5% extra to drone damage instead of the drone size bonus, or even another +1 drone control per level (yeah - think of the lag!)
I notice the vagabond is classed as a patrol cruiser, but I imagine most things will get looked at strongly before being released to us! I reckon the Amarr ships are definitely coming out tops with this range of ships. Both of theirs look nails. -------------
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Shevar
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Posted - 2004.09.24 15:10:00 -
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Originally by: throbbinnoggin B4 anyone gets too excited anyone wanna take a guess as to the price tag of one of these babies. How about insurance coverage or as I predict the relative lack thereof. While I admit the Sacrilege has got my mouth watering the initial cost as well as the pain of loosing 1 is a primary consideration for me.
Screenies:
http://hstrial-eve.homestead.com/index.html
Just in case if someone could take these and post to an unlimited page (this one has 1 Gig I learned) that would be best. BTW this is/was my 1st attempt at setting up a webpage in any manner so forgive the ignorant noob.
I would't mind paying 100 to 150m for such a ship if i could fly it (atleast right after release). And 75m after there are more bpos etc. is alright as well...
As for the website, works perferctly fine for me. -------- -The only real drug problem is scoring real good drugs
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Shevar
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Posted - 2004.09.24 15:10:00 -
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Originally by: throbbinnoggin B4 anyone gets too excited anyone wanna take a guess as to the price tag of one of these babies. How about insurance coverage or as I predict the relative lack thereof. While I admit the Sacrilege has got my mouth watering the initial cost as well as the pain of loosing 1 is a primary consideration for me.
Screenies:
http://hstrial-eve.homestead.com/index.html
Just in case if someone could take these and post to an unlimited page (this one has 1 Gig I learned) that would be best. BTW this is/was my 1st attempt at setting up a webpage in any manner so forgive the ignorant noob.
I would't mind paying 100 to 150m for such a ship if i could fly it (atleast right after release). And 75m after there are more bpos etc. is alright as well...
As for the website, works perferctly fine for me. -------- -The only real drug problem is scoring real good drugs
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Idara
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Posted - 2004.09.24 15:23:00 -
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I want that Caracal one....really.
 Idara Section Leader - Security & Warfare Member of Metatron Incorporated |

Idara
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Posted - 2004.09.24 15:23:00 -
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I want that Caracal one....really.
 Idara Section Leader - Security & Warfare Member of Metatron Incorporated |

Amitious Turkey
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Posted - 2004.09.24 15:35:00 -
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man i would luv a Deimos for mining u could fit What? a med smartbomb then take out the pirates that way......tho im more a drone guy so i mite go for the Ishtar.... gotta luv those drones muahahahah 
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Amitious Turkey
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Posted - 2004.09.24 15:35:00 -
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man i would luv a Deimos for mining u could fit What? a med smartbomb then take out the pirates that way......tho im more a drone guy so i mite go for the Ishtar.... gotta luv those drones muahahahah 
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