You have drawn several fallacious conclusions from an isolated incident enacted and participated in solely by individual corporations of capsuleers.

You do an extreme disservice to the Federation by claiming it is a puppet of the Empire and an even greater disservice to the Empire by claiming we need puppets to defend ourselves. You may have the upper-hand in the war effort at this time but the Empire is far from finished.

You are right sir, Wolfsbrigade did enter into a diplomatic effort to have our forces look away from their system at the expense of your entire war effort, apparently thinking that they were the most important entity in your Empire. I am sorry that they have betrayed all of you and I would say that you brand them enemiesof the Empire and treat them as such.

As to the question of Shadows of the Federation I again state that this is either a prelude to changing political relations between the Republic or yet another splinter group that needs to be dealt with by their own. That being said I would think that it may be possible for Minmatar forces to join both Gallente and Amarr forces to deal with these traitors.

I would brand them as traitors as the effect of the pact was "Dont attack our one system and we will give you free reign to attack the rest of our empires systems without reprisal from us". That is Traitor acts no matter how you look at it. They sold the rest of the Amarr Militia to save their own asses.

it is now clear that the Federation has become a puppet state to the Amarr Empire.

I should clarify that from my individual perspective, WBR promoted dishonor, disloyalty and treachery by participating in this event. Such behavior leaves me with an ill taste in my mouth, but I cannot speak on behalf of the whole Empire nor the 24IC in how this event will affect WBR in relation to them.

Proof of this pact where they state their disregard for all other systems currently being contested would help elicit a response, I imagine.

I would have to contest your viewpoint, Captain Shogaatsu. The planets (and their inhabitants) are hardly inconsequential or useless and when the systems change occupancy, the planets come under the leadership (and occupancy) of the occupying power.

You also may wish to recall the Emergency Militia Powers Act which is actually responsible for the ongoing war between capsuleers loyal to their respective empires. It may not appear like much is being accomplished from the space side of things, but on the planets in those relevant systems, the constant changes in occupancy do matter and I imagine those under those conditions live very difficult lives.

Oh I understand, I know the planets (and their ubiquitous populations of bipedal fungus) are quite important to the miserable unfortunates still trapped in their gravity wells. I also understand that having to switch between State and Federal bureaucracy every few weeks could be annoying for the little buggers. I just don't care. It's not like we're going to run out of humans, and their opinions on capsuleers are quite clear. They don't like me, and I don't like them.

What grabs my attention is the utter pointlessness of this warfare. More so however, my attention is drawn to the fact that no-one else seems to see what I see. What lasting goals have been achieved with this constant to-and-fro trading of system ownership?

You show concern for planet-dwellers and their tiny, pointless lives, so explain how you justify the loss of life of capsuleer ship crews (which are drawn from those wretched gravity-balls) on a conflict which has not achieved any goal, nor affected the political makeup of New Eden in the slightest.

Careful Shogaatsu, we wouldn't want the militia fighters to actually reflect on what they've been preoccupied with for the last several years.

You show concern for planet-dwellers and their tiny, pointless lives, so explain how you justify the loss of life of capsuleer ship crews (which are drawn from those wretched gravity-balls) on a conflict which has not achieved any goal, nor affected the political makeup of New Eden in the slightest.

What you don't seem to understand is that goals are being accomplished, perhaps not as readily as we'd prefer them to and certainly not as quickly as if this war were being fought without the presence of self-proclaimed immortals, but they are being accomplished nonetheless. Those of us that fight to secure our borders and defend them from further incursion are doing all we can to bring a stalemate to the war(s) and security for those on the planets within.

Those of us that fight to secure our borders and defend them from further incursion are doing all we can to bring a stalemate to the war(s) and security for those on the planets within.

Another day, another rain of podder ship fragments. A Raven class piloted by some ignorant **** saw fit to warp into low orbit of our fair planet while pursued by our star system's welcoming committee, who predictably scored a wealth of modules from the wreckage that didn't plummet to our fair planet. As a result of these new developments, Reitsato Prime boasts five new 50-kilometre craters, and a 1200-kilometre radiation exclusion zone due to the still-live battleship reactor that landed in our primary farming sectors, killing thousands. **** you, podders.

Please aid us. Our capsuleer-promised order is breaking down. Both factions are now heavily armed and our government is powerless to stop the fighting, as most of the local police have chosen sides too. Each claim that a single capsuleer ship can turn the tide to their side. They keep sending up signals but all we get is random laser fire against our population centers!

I would have to contest your viewpoint, Captain Shogaatsu. The planets (and their inhabitants) are hardly inconsequential or useless and when the systems change occupancy, the planets come under the leadership (and occupancy) of the occupying power.

You also may wish to recall the Emergency Militia Powers Act which is actually responsible for the ongoing war between capsuleers loyal to their respective empires. It may not appear like much is being accomplished from the space side of things, but on the planets in those relevant systems, the constant changes in occupancy do matter and I imagine those under those conditions live very difficult lives.

Yeaaaaaaah, something tells me we're not bringing them much security.

Do not confuse the people really responsible for this wasteful war. CONCORD were merely the ones enabling the Militia Emergency Power Act. The ones that really wanted that war were the four nations themselves. The only reason that happened is because they still hold a little power in CONCORD administration. The Militia Power Act is nothing else than a political tool, and your own Empire was involved in its creation.

Self-Imposed shackles, namely those worn by capsuleers, are the most amusing of all.

I will not deny that the major nations were behind EMPA, nor will I deny that the war is something all sides want(ed) at some point. What I am saying is that we have the power, as the ones fighting the war(s), to bring them to a stand still and cease the turmoil caused by them.

Capsuleers have the raw power, but real power lies in the money they are promised to fight in this war. You will get better results by convincing each governement or even better, their populations, than convincing militia capsuleers to boicott that war.

I will not deny that the major nations were behind EMPA, nor will I deny that the war is something all sides want(ed) at some point. What I am saying is that we have the power, as the ones fighting the war(s), to bring them to a stand still and cease the turmoil caused by them.



What you call 'shackles,' I call conviction.