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E villMonkeigh
SPORADIC MOVEMENT
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Posted - 2009.07.09 01:36:00 -
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What ships provide the most bang for your ISK?
I'm working on the premise
(1) PvPing is > PvE; PvE is usually boring
(2) When you PvP you will, eventually, die
(3) The more expensive the ship you die in, the more PvE you have to do to recover this ISK.
(4) A 'good' PvP ship avoids you having to much PvE because it is either (a) cheap/insurable (b) unlikely to die (c) so lethal that pvp loot easily pays for replacements or (d) a combination of the above
I nominate:
Rifter with T2 guns (often the starting point of any aspiring pirate PvPer)
Rupture with T2 guns + 1600 plate (I have mates who get amazing and unlikely kills with this)
Hurricane with T2 a/c or arty (versatile BC can fill many roles)
Thrasher with T2 arty (death to frigates; remarkably survivable if you run like a little girl - often :-)
Sabre (super-useful bubble with bite, pace and some survivability)
But you might suggest that Vagabond that you have a 100-1 kill/death ratio with, or the Ranis you solo faction BS in...
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Duke Starbuckington
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Posted - 2009.07.09 01:38:00 -
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 Originally by: E villMonkeigh
What ships provide the most bang for your ISK?
I'm working on the premise
(1) PvPing is > PvE; PvE is usually boring
(2) When you PvP you will, eventually, die
(3) The more expensive the ship you die in, the more PvE you have to do to recover this ISK.
(4) A 'good' PvP ship avoids you having to much PvE because it is either (a) cheap/insurable (b) unlikely to die (c) so lethal that pvp loot easily pays for replacements or (d) a combination of the above
I nominate:
Rifter with T2 guns (often the starting point of any aspiring pirate PvPer)
Rupture with T2 guns + 1600 plate (I have mates who get amazing and unlikely kills with this)
Hurricane with T2 a/c or arty (versatile BC can fill many roles)
Thrasher with T2 arty (death to frigates; remarkably survivable if you run like a little girl - often :-)
Sabre (super-useful bubble with bite, pace and some survivability)
But you might suggest that Vagabond that you have a 100-1 kill/death ratio with, or the Ranis you solo faction BS in...
Nanocane.
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SheriffFruitfly
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.07.09 01:52:00 -
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Oddly enough, for me it's the nighthawk. Yah, it's spendy, but it's the one that I've got the best kill/death ratio with. It's also an efficient isk-maker.
And I think it's fun as hell.
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SFX Bladerunner
Minmatar
Black Serpent Technologies
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Posted - 2009.07.09 01:55:00 -
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The most 'effective' pvp shiptype really depends on wether you do a lot of solo work or small gang work or medium gang work etc etc.
A roaming RR dominix gang (5 - 10 domis) CAN be much fun if you can pull it off and get the gang together.
If you are looking at the 'bang for your isk' part though here are some of my nominees:
T1
Rifter
Thrasher
Stabber/Rupture (Id have to say stabber is more fun)
Hurricane
Typhoon
T2
Stiletto
Wolf
Sabre
Rapier
Vagabond
My alltime favs. being the Wolf, Hurricane and Rapier (in that order)
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Enden Assulu
Caldari
Blood Money Inc.
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Posted - 2009.07.09 01:55:00 -
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Brutix for some reason :|
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Psiri
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Posted - 2009.07.09 01:55:00 -
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Cyclone/Ferox/Brutix
Thrasher
Dominix/Armageddon/Phoon
Rifter/Tristan/Punisher/Incursus/Kestrel/Merlin
T1 Cruisers with mostly named/t1 fits can be surprisingly effective still aswell.
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Lunewraith
Amarr
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2009.07.09 02:08:00 -
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Vexor in gangs, Ishkur solo are nice. Sader is just damn sxy.
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Rajere
No Trademark
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Posted - 2009.07.09 02:19:00 -
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Originally by: E villMonkeigh
What ships provide the most bang for your ISK?
I'm working on the premise
(1) PvPing is > PvE; PvE is usually boring
(2) When you PvP you will, eventually, die
(3) The more expensive the ship you die in, the more PvE you have to do to recover this ISK.
(4) A 'good' PvP ship avoids you having to much PvE because it is either (a) cheap/insurable (b) unlikely to die (c) so lethal that pvp loot easily pays for replacements or (d) a combination of the above
Looking at my top 10 ships by K/D Ratio:
#1-#2 Broadsword 44:0 & Archon 40:0. I have no losses with these but only got a handful of kills, that kinda mucks up the K:D ratio though so i'll ignore them. On ships I've actually flown enough to both kill a lot of people and lose a few of, I'll rank them and list which option from #4 above applies:
#1 Redeemer (b & c) 48:1 K/D Ratio. This really should be ~150:1 K/D but I've done some ballsy ie stupid things with Black Ops.
#2 Maelstrom (a) 42:1 K/D Ratio
#3 Zealot (b) 37.5:1 K/D Ratio
#4-5 Armageddon/Typhoon (a) ~24:1 K/D Ratio
#6-7 Claymore/Huginn (b) 23:1 K/D Ratio
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VanNostrum
The Littlest Hobos
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.07.09 07:41:00 -
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Arbitrator ofc
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VanNostrum
The Littlest Hobos
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.07.09 07:41:00 -
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Edited by: VanNostrum on 09/07/2009 07:41:47
uh-oh dbl post
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kessah
XERCORE
Cult of War
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Posted - 2009.07.09 07:45:00 -
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For me personally is most definetly the Dominix.
The one ive currently has lasted me awhile and has so gotten out / de-agressed about a half dozen times in low structure so far. Not had so much luck in eve before as with this one.
*touch wood* (tree kind  )
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Rordan D'Kherr
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.07.09 07:57:00 -
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Edited by: Rordan D''Kherr on 09/07/2009 07:57:34
For me it is the cane.
Sure the Domi is god when you look at price performance ratio. But I can't fly gaylente.. 
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Magnus Castaneus
Cross Roads
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Posted - 2009.07.09 08:13:00 -
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fun? hurricane.
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Sakos Vartrow
Rapscallions
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Posted - 2009.07.09 08:19:00 -
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My top 5 ships by K/D ratio:
1) Phantasm - 107:1 <- And people say faction ships get primaried too much!
2) Pilgrim - 36.6:1
3) Curse - 25.2:1
4) Omen Navy Issue - 24.6:1
5) Ares - 22:1
Honestly though, best bang for my buck would probably be a curse or shield tanked harb.
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kyrv
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Posted - 2009.07.09 08:41:00 -
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I'd choose any teir 1 battleship there all great for most people where npc'ing is not an option.
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Riddick Richard
Caldari Corporation 12345
Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.07.09 08:43:00 -
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I've had most succesful run with a rapier 240:1
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Vidi Angelus
Caldari
Crystal Dynamics
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.07.09 08:48:00 -
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blackbird.
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Sonderkommando
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Posted - 2009.07.09 09:07:00 -
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Drake... Its the Crown Vic of PVP.
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Gypsio III
Dirty Filthy Perverts
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Posted - 2009.07.09 09:17:00 -
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AML Caracal. About 5 mill ISK to lose, but chews through 30 mill ISK T2 frigates with ease, without invoking the fear that an Arbitrator or Vexor would.
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Rock urSocksoff
Incura
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Posted - 2009.07.09 09:17:00 -
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'Cane, Rupture, and Stabber.
Originally by: Saluss
Its a bad world in EvE and everyone wants your Retail shuttle.
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E villMonkeigh
SPORADIC MOVEMENT
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Posted - 2009.07.09 09:20:00 -
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Originally by: Sakos Vartrow
My top 5 ships by K/D ratio:
1) Phantasm - 107:1 <- And people say faction ships get primaried too much!
2) Pilgrim - 36.6:1
3) Curse - 25.2:1
4) Omen Navy Issue - 24.6:1
5) Ares - 22:1
Honestly though, best bang for my buck would probably be a curse or shield tanked harb.
So you lost .6 of a Pilgrim  .. that would be warping off under half armour right?
Sabre for kdr (95:1). Despite incredibly terrible ISK/tank ratio, it offers a 'gang' tank - i.e. turn up in a Sabre and you instantly have several blues following you about to soak up enemy fire.
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Marquis Jeladriel
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Posted - 2009.07.09 10:31:00 -
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I've found that having access to lvl 4s missions (pve i know) makes pvp much more affordable. One good session of missioning and salvage can net you a lot of isk - allowing you to lose those ships without wincing (half the battle of fighting another person is getting over the fact your ship is pretty much lost as soon as you undock anyway)
I like a rail/MWD fit Ishkur for it's survivability and the Brutix for it's insurable in-your-face blastery goodness - two favourite ships.
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Worstofbest
Caldari
Caldari Militia Army
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Posted - 2009.07.09 10:36:00 -
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Thorax \o/
As for ships I hope to find fun (ones I'm planning on flying soon).
Nanocane
Cyclone
Ferox
Drake
Rokh
Raven
Rifter
Right now I can fly a drake with great gear and skills but the rest will have to wait while I pile money and skills.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.07.09 10:44:00 -
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Loving my gang Beam Zealots at the moment. They aren't exactly cheap, but the number of kills I'm getting with them makes them well worth it.
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yani dumyat
Minmatar
Infusion.
Sc0rched Earth
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Posted - 2009.07.09 10:46:00 -
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1) crow
2) aml caracal
3) vagabond
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Cpt Constantinus
Celestial Janissaries
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Posted - 2009.07.09 10:55:00 -
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Would be the Zealot for me.
Of course, it is wether cheap nor insurable nor especialy durable ( which means that losses can and ultimatly will happen ) but it is the most fun ship i can fly in eve which makes it an effective pvp ship for me :)
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Fastbikkel
T.H.U.G L.I.F.E
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Posted - 2009.07.09 10:58:00 -
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Edited by: Fastbikkel on 09/07/2009 10:58:27
Originally by: kessah
For me personally is most definetly the Dominix.
The one ive currently has lasted me awhile and has so gotten out / de-agressed about a half dozen times in low structure so far. Not had so much luck in eve before as with this one.
*touch wood* (tree kind )
I agree.
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Drek Grapper
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.07.09 11:26:00 -
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Originally by: kessah
For me personally is most definetly the Dominix.
The one ive currently has lasted me awhile and has so gotten out / de-agressed about a half dozen times in low structure so far. Not had so much luck in eve before as with this one.
*touch wood* (tree kind )
Is this the Domi in your Vids? The one with Med T2 blasters and Dual Rep? Awesome ship that. Gonna fit myself one (i have a passive one atm) when i can bring myself to shell out for the rigs.
To answer the OP's question -
I only solo so i would have to say the Rifter and the Rupture.
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SkyFlyer
Caldari
The Xziles
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Posted - 2009.07.09 11:41:00 -
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Well Mine is the Curse lots lots kills and engagements and not one loss
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Benco97
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.07.09 11:51:00 -
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For me the most cost effective PvP ship I've flown is actually the Thrasher.
Nobody expects the Dessie to do anything useful.
Originally by: P'uck
You're a DUMBASS - bold italic underline at the VERY LEAST.
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