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skilzrulz
Gallente
0neZeR0 Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.07.09 01:46:00 -
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Picture of him online
Why would he still be online after RMT scandal. All of his accounts should have been banned. Something EBank isn't letting us know?
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Brock Nelson
Caldari
Flux Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2009.07.09 01:48:00 -
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As it was already explained in the SCC-Lounge, only the account tied to the RMT incident is banned. Most likely it was EBank Ricdic that got banned.
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Selene D'Celeste
Caldari
The D'Celeste Trading Company
ISK Six
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Posted - 2009.07.09 01:48:00 -
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My guess would be that they only ban accounts tied to the actual RMT and not all accounts owned by a player. Considering the man had a good dozen accounts, not surprising.
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Amarr Citizen 155
Tleilex Developments
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2009.07.09 01:54:00 -
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Last I checked anything to do with RMT or account banning isn't part of the EBANK duties. There's a list of things that EBANK isn't responsible for as CCP handles these matters, you can find it here.
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sitar seaton
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Posted - 2009.07.09 02:05:00 -
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The trick is clearly to do your rmt with a second account. This leaves your main accounts safe.
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Ricdic
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.07.09 02:23:00 -
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Something you guys should know about Skilz.
In his IPO a couple of weeks ago he stated he had no outstanding debts. EBANK staff asked him a few times to confirm this was the case (not able to disclose his information) and he continually denied the claims.
In actual fact, he has a debt he has advised he won't be repaying to the tune of 150 billion isk. Next time he applies for an IPO or credit from the public I recommend the public tell him he needs to give EBANK permission to disclose his loan related information before giving him any money.
I have seen him in the MD scene more and more of late, and it's all building up for a scam. My word means nothing to most of you so take it at face value, but ask for EBANK employees to verify the default with his permission and you will save yourselves considerable losses.
This may be a breach of privacy but my rep is already screwed so may as well let you guys know.
Repeat: He has scammed EBANK to the tune of 150 billion isk and will be asking for more of your money, get EBANK confirmation first.
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Sir Elliot
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Posted - 2009.07.09 02:36:00 -
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In immediately after Ricdic in what is destined to be an epic, epic thread.
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tre introv
Set Sail For Fail
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Posted - 2009.07.09 02:37:00 -
[8]
Are you even relevant anymore?
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Cordele
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Posted - 2009.07.09 03:06:00 -
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 Originally by: A discredited thief banned for RMT
Something you guys should know about Skilz.
In his IPO a couple of weeks ago he stated he had no outstanding debts. EBANK staff asked him a few times to confirm this was the case (not able to disclose his information) and he continually denied the claims.
In actual fact, he has a debt he has advised he won't be repaying to the tune of 150 billion isk. Next time he applies for an IPO or credit from the public I recommend the public tell him he needs to give EBANK permission to disclose his loan related information before giving him any money.
I have seen him in the MD scene more and more of late, and it's all building up for a scam. My word means nothing to most of you so take it at face value, but ask for EBANK employees to verify the default with his permission and you will save yourselves considerable losses.
This may be a breach of privacy but my rep is already screwed so may as well let you guys know.
Repeat: He has scammed EBANK to the tune of 150 billion isk and will be asking for more of your money, get EBANK confirmation first.
Cheers.
True or not, you probably shouldn't risk showing your face here. |
Kingnuts
Paegan Terrorism Tactics
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Posted - 2009.07.09 03:15:00 -
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Originally by: Cordele
Originally by: A discredited thief banned for RMT
Something you guys should know about Skilz.
In his IPO a couple of weeks ago he stated he had no outstanding debts. EBANK staff asked him a few times to confirm this was the case (not able to disclose his information) and he continually denied the claims.
In actual fact, he has a debt he has advised he won't be repaying to the tune of 150 billion isk. Next time he applies for an IPO or credit from the public I recommend the public tell him he needs to give EBANK permission to disclose his loan related information before giving him any money.
I have seen him in the MD scene more and more of late, and it's all building up for a scam. My word means nothing to most of you so take it at face value, but ask for EBANK employees to verify the default with his permission and you will save yourselves considerable losses.
This may be a breach of privacy but my rep is already screwed so may as well let you guys know.
Repeat: He has scammed EBANK to the tune of 150 billion isk and will be asking for more of your money, get EBANK confirmation first.
Cheers.
True or not, you probably shouldn't risk showing your face here.
Internet Spaceship Bars
Another Serious Business.
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cosmoray
Cosmoray Construction
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Posted - 2009.07.09 03:26:00 -
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Originally by: Ricdic
Something you guys should know about Skilz.
In his IPO a couple of weeks ago he stated he had no outstanding debts. EBANK staff asked him a few times to confirm this was the case (not able to disclose his information) and he continually denied the claims.
In actual fact, he has a debt he has advised he won't be repaying to the tune of 150 billion isk. Next time he applies for an IPO or credit from the public I recommend the public tell him he needs to give EBANK permission to disclose his loan related information before giving him any money.
I have seen him in the MD scene more and more of late, and it's all building up for a scam. My word means nothing to most of you so take it at face value, but ask for EBANK employees to verify the default with his permission and you will save yourselves considerable losses.
This may be a breach of privacy but my rep is already screwed so may as well let you guys know.
Repeat: He has scammed EBANK to the tune of 150 billion isk and will be asking for more of your money, get EBANK confirmation first.
Cheers.
Interesting!!!
You probably should have gone quietly, I would have.
I am torn about your statement. I would like EBANK confirmation if Skillrulz scammed them out of cash at least so he can be added to Thieves of Eve List.
I think the honorable thing for you to do, is state a time and place (system) where you will be in Eve in a ship, and see who can get the killmail.
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Drab Cane
Mining Emporium inc.
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Posted - 2009.07.09 03:26:00 -
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Originally by: sitar seaton
The trick is clearly to do your rmt with a second account. This leaves your main accounts safe.
Originally by: Ricdic
Repeat: He [skilzrulz] has scammed EBANK to the tune of 150 billion isk and will be asking for more of your money, get EBANK confirmation first.
Apparently it's also better to use a different account when defaulting on a EBank loan, should an ex-employee leak your info.
Personally I think it would be great if EBank added a clause to their Terms of Use that would allow EBank to publicly report defaults on their website. Unfortunately that's not the case.
[sarcasm]Thank you Ricdic for accusing skilz without the authority to do so, in response to his thread about you. Are there any other defaults you want to leak, or do we have to wait until they post something unflattering about you?[/sarcasm]
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cosmoray
Cosmoray Construction
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Posted - 2009.07.09 03:29:00 -
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I wish Shadarle would have something to say about Ricdic's return!!
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northwesten
Amarr
Trinity Corporate Services
Novus Ordo Mundi
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Posted - 2009.07.09 03:41:00 -
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I surprised all his accounts not been banned! I mean should be done if you do RMT. just shows how weak the system is! maybe everyone else sell some isk and get real money. Least 1 of 5 accounts get banned right?
Tho I say one think I like how Ricdic comes here and says someone is a scammer yet least its a legal action when u scam to sell isk. man this going to be a funny thread i can see it.
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Cordele
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Posted - 2009.07.09 03:52:00 -
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Originally by: Kingnuts
Internet Spaceship Bars
Another Serious Business.
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skilzrulz
Gallente
0neZeR0 Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.07.09 03:55:00 -
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I guess you can do RMT on a alt and no consequences.
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skilzrulz
Gallente
0neZeR0 Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.07.09 03:57:00 -
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Originally by: Ricdic
Something you guys should know about Skilz.
In his IPO a couple of weeks ago he stated he had no outstanding debts. EBANK staff asked him a few times to confirm this was the case (not able to disclose his information) and he continually denied the claims.
In actual fact, he has a debt he has advised he won't be repaying to the tune of 150 billion isk. Next time he applies for an IPO or credit from the public I recommend the public tell him he needs to give EBANK permission to disclose his loan related information before giving him any money.
I have seen him in the MD scene more and more of late, and it's all building up for a scam. My word means nothing to most of you so take it at face value, but ask for EBANK employees to verify the default with his permission and you will save yourselves considerable losses.
This may be a breach of privacy but my rep is already screwed so may as well let you guys know.
Repeat: He has scammed EBANK to the tune of 150 billion isk and will be asking for more of your money, get EBANK confirmation first.
Cheers.
I guess Ricdic is still a active part of EBank's operations. The ability to swindle investors, and come back to the threads as a forumwarrior is quite amazing.
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c4 t
Directive Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.07.09 04:03:00 -
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posting for face time. hi everybody \o/
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Admiral Frools
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.07.09 04:07:00 -
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**** skilz, but **** ebank more for getting scammed by skilz
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Manentia
manic-recession
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Posted - 2009.07.09 04:12:00 -
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Originally by: northwesten
I surprised all his accounts not been banned! I mean should be done if you do RMT. just shows how weak the system is! maybe everyone else sell some isk and get real money. Least 1 of 5 accounts get banned right?
Tho I say one think I like how Ricdic comes here and says someone is a scammer yet least its a legal action when u scam to sell isk. man this going to be a funny thread i can see it.
Agreed! Quite interesting...
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Clair Bear
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.07.09 04:13:00 -
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Daym. When ebaying gold spammers minions out to troll threads how can I ever hope to compete?
Once again the bar has been raised out of reach for us mere mortals.
And in summary, bigger blobs are the answer. Now what was the question? |
thebarry
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Posted - 2009.07.09 04:18:00 -
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hay guys what's goin on in here?
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Brock Nelson
Caldari
Flux Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2009.07.09 04:19:00 -
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I dunno but I'm posting in a soon to be locked thread...
ninja edit: oh wait, mintel left? well troll on people!
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Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2009.07.09 04:21:00 -
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/facepalm |
Zero Uptick
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Posted - 2009.07.09 04:23:00 -
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must be time for Ric to make a mortgage payment.
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Grendell
Technologies Unlimited
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Posted - 2009.07.09 04:25:00 -
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Here to say hi.
Hi
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Sophie Daigneau
CAPITAL Assistance in Destruction Society
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.07.09 04:33:00 -
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Ricdic is a scammer and a Goon runs a large and successful bond. My what an interesting turn MD has taken this past month.
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corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.07.09 04:35:00 -
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Originally by: skilzrulz
Originally by: Ricdic
Something you guys should know about Skilz.
In his IPO a couple of weeks ago he stated he had no outstanding debts. EBANK staff asked him a few times to confirm this was the case (not able to disclose his information) and he continually denied the claims.
In actual fact, he has a debt he has advised he won't be repaying to the tune of 150 billion isk. Next time he applies for an IPO or credit from the public I recommend the public tell him he needs to give EBANK permission to disclose his loan related information before giving him any money.
I have seen him in the MD scene more and more of late, and it's all building up for a scam. My word means nothing to most of you so take it at face value, but ask for EBANK employees to verify the default with his permission and you will save yourselves considerable losses.
This may be a breach of privacy but my rep is already screwed so may as well let you guys know.
Repeat: He has scammed EBANK to the tune of 150 billion isk and will be asking for more of your money, get EBANK confirmation first.
Cheers.
I guess Ricdic is still a active part of EBank's operations. The ability to swindle investors, and come back to the threads as a forumwarrior is quite amazing.
Replying to attacks with ad hominem rather than denying it. Looks like a sign of guilt to me tbh. 
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skilzrulz
Gallente
0neZeR0 Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.07.09 04:37:00 -
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Originally by: corestwo
Originally by: skilzrulz
Originally by: Ricdic
Something you guys should know about Skilz.
In his IPO a couple of weeks ago he stated he had no outstanding debts. EBANK staff asked him a few times to confirm this was the case (not able to disclose his information) and he continually denied the claims.
In actual fact, he has a debt he has advised he won't be repaying to the tune of 150 billion isk. Next time he applies for an IPO or credit from the public I recommend the public tell him he needs to give EBANK permission to disclose his loan related information before giving him any money.
I have seen him in the MD scene more and more of late, and it's all building up for a scam. My word means nothing to most of you so take it at face value, but ask for EBANK employees to verify the default with his permission and you will save yourselves considerable losses.
This may be a breach of privacy but my rep is already screwed so may as well let you guys know.
Repeat: He has scammed EBANK to the tune of 150 billion isk and will be asking for more of your money, get EBANK confirmation first.
Cheers.
I guess Ricdic is still a active part of EBank's operations. The ability to swindle investors, and come back to the threads as a forumwarrior is quite amazing.
Replying to attacks with ad hominem rather than denying it. Looks like a sign of guilt to me tbh.
"In my country..." - Borat
Innocent until proven guilty.
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Brock Nelson
Caldari
Flux Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2009.07.09 04:38:00 -
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Originally by: Sophie Daigneau
Ricdic is a scammer and a Goon runs a large and successful bond. My what an interesting turn MD has taken this past month.
Didn't you just accused skilzrule of being a scammer in the scc lounge?
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corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.07.09 04:39:00 -
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Edited by: corestwo on 09/07/2009 04:39:21
Originally by: skilzrulz
Originally by: corestwo
Originally by: skilzrulz
Originally by: Ricdic
Something you guys should know about Skilz.
In his IPO a couple of weeks ago he stated he had no outstanding debts. EBANK staff asked him a few times to confirm this was the case (not able to disclose his information) and he continually denied the claims.
In actual fact, he has a debt he has advised he won't be repaying to the tune of 150 billion isk. Next time he applies for an IPO or credit from the public I recommend the public tell him he needs to give EBANK permission to disclose his loan related information before giving him any money.
I have seen him in the MD scene more and more of late, and it's all building up for a scam. My word means nothing to most of you so take it at face value, but ask for EBANK employees to verify the default with his permission and you will save yourselves considerable losses.
This may be a breach of privacy but my rep is already screwed so may as well let you guys know.
Repeat: He has scammed EBANK to the tune of 150 billion isk and will be asking for more of your money, get EBANK confirmation first.
Cheers.
I guess Ricdic is still a active part of EBank's operations. The ability to swindle investors, and come back to the threads as a forumwarrior is quite amazing.
Replying to attacks with ad hominem rather than denying it. Looks like a sign of guilt to me tbh.
"In my country..." - Borat
Innocent until proven guilty.
Unfortunately for you, this isn't the USA. This is MD, where people have had their IPO's broken and shattered on naught more but the vague word from a so-called "elite".
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Brock Nelson
Caldari
Flux Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2009.07.09 04:40:00 -
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In soviet MD, you are guilty
Or however that goes
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skilzrulz
Gallente
0neZeR0 Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.07.09 04:41:00 -
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The real puzzling topic for this discussion is, how can you be banned for Ebaying ISK, then come back and talk to the EVE community with any real sense of honesty, and trust.
He BROKE the rules, (selling ISK for real money). Why is his account still in good standing?
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Brock Nelson
Caldari
Flux Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2009.07.09 04:42:00 -
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Originally by: skilzrulz
The real puzzling topic for this discussion is, how can you be banned for Ebaying ISK, then come back and talk to the EVE community with any real sense of honesty, and trust.
He BROKE the rules, (selling ISK for real money). Why is his account still in good standing?
Now you're just trolling. About 5 people answered your question within the first 15 seconds of the your post...
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corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.07.09 04:44:00 -
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Edited by: corestwo on 09/07/2009 04:44:29
Originally by: skilzrulz
The real puzzling topic for this discussion is, how can you be banned for Ebaying ISK, then come back and talk to the EVE community with any real sense of honesty, and trust.
He BROKE the rules, (selling ISK for real money). Why is his account still in good standing?
I'm going to assume you really are illiterate and aren't just trying to deflect attention from yourself. None of the RMT'd money touched any of his other accounts, thus CCP had no reason to ban them.
And really, it wouldn't be the first time in the history of MD that a known scammer accused someone else of scamming...and was right. 
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James Tundra
Gallente
Tash-Murkon Prime Industries
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Posted - 2009.07.09 04:53:00 -
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Just give EBank permission to disclose any and all debts.
Quote:
[04:34:40] skilzrulz > SencneS, you have ZERO clue who I am, and what I have done for the EVE community.
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Ray McCormack
hirr
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Posted - 2009.07.09 05:09:00 -
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Hi skilz, why no picture of me online?
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corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.07.09 05:17:00 -
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Edited by: corestwo on 09/07/2009 05:18:26
Edited by: corestwo on 09/07/2009 05:17:47
Name changed to protect the innocent. 
Quote:
[04:47:25] corestwo > hi.
[04:48:00] XXXXXXX > no need to reply, ill talk you listen
[04:48:05] XXXXXXX > then you can do what you want with it
[04:48:21] corestwo > ...
[04:48:32] XXXXXXX > Skilz is as guilty of what ricdic said as ricdic is guilty of RMT
[04:48:57] XXXXXXX > and when the ricdic **** hit the fan
[04:49:07] XXXXXXX > skilz decided he would use it as a good time to avoid repaying his debt
[04:49:29] XXXXXXX > and btw, im only coming to you because you have no rep to lose. you are a goon
[04:49:35] XXXXXXX > people hate you anyways
[04:49:53] XXXXXXX > the amount isnt 150b
[04:50:17] XXXXXXX > but id bet its more than 100b
[04:50:35] XXXXXXX > when you include interest that he probably hasnt been paying
[04:51:55] XXXXXXX > skilz had a total of 5 loans with ebank
[04:52:05] XXXXXXX > totaing nearly 200b
[04:52:23] XXXXXXX > he made some payments but at some point his loans went over his collateral, due to ricdic being a ****up
[04:52:40] XXXXXXX > and payments stopped coming in
[04:53:18] XXXXXXX > after his collateral was liquidated, it wasnt enough to cover the loan but he continues to laim that ricdic told him it was enough and that he didnt owe any isk
[04:53:24] XXXXXXX > claiM*
[04:54:25] XXXXXXX > and he's got proton power on his side as PP thinks the collateral covered it(ofc PP left ebank long before any **** hit the fan and he doesnt know half of the information he thinks he does)
[04:55:09] XXXXXXX > and now he figures he can ride the coat-tails of ricdic's thieft so he wont have to repay his loan obligations
[04:56:09] XXXXXXX > AND he thinks he means **** to this "community" that everyone likes to spout about
[04:56:31] XXXXXXX > but i dont work for ebank anymore so i dont have anymore current info
[04:56:41] XXXXXXX > have fun
Zee plot, it thickens. Ricdic alt continuing the smear? Concerned ex-ebank employee? Who knows?
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Ray McCormack
hirr
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Posted - 2009.07.09 05:20:00 -
[39]
Originally by: corestwo
[04:56:31] XXXXXXX > but i dont work for ebank anymore so i dont have anymore current info
Oh no, who could it be?
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PostmasterGeneral
Minmatar
yo i'm posting
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Posted - 2009.07.09 05:24:00 -
[40]
tee hee hee the ~betrayal~ of trust hurt itt is fantastic
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Drab Cane
Mining Emporium inc.
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Posted - 2009.07.09 06:07:00 -
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And here I had the impression that EBank was this tightly-run, efficent machine.
Naive me - sounds like their recordkeeping hasn't kept pace with their growth - a good problem to have, but a problem nonetheless.
PS. So, where's Hawkblade's post? Granted, Ricdic doesn't need help to look like a burro's behind . . .
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Caleb Ayrania
Gallente
TarNec
New Eden Retail Federation
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Posted - 2009.07.09 06:25:00 -
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Hehe little drama drummer boy.. :)
Who haz da popcorn?
- Money is Love -
Sometimes it just gets bend the wrong ways.
Feed your Brain:
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YouGotRipped
Ewigkeit
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Posted - 2009.07.09 06:35:00 -
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Originally by: Drab Cane
PS. So, where's Hawkblade's post? Granted, Ricdic doesn't need help to look like a burro's behind . . .
Grandpa Hawkblade (lol?) has been sedated on account of a severe ego crisis.
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Ricdic
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.07.09 06:42:00 -
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All Skilz has to do is give EBANK permission to divulge his loan practices. If they give the all clear, I can just be continually called a liar etc etc. If they confirm what I have said it saves people from losing a pile of cash when he scams. Win/Win for MD really.
You only need to look at his MD bond offering to see how many EBANK staff tried to query his EBANK loan/debt status and recommended against him to put 2 and 2 together. Either way, just letting people know of this has guaranteed that the next time he asks for public investment this will be a requirement he needs to fulfil. I'm happy to provide msn and ingame logs showing him saying he won't be repaying the debt.
As to the "Ricdic screwup" comment, the entire loan was handled by Proton Power. He valued the collateral and said it was sufficient. Some of the bpo's were sold under their collateral value, plus Skilz never paid his interest. My only mistake in the skilz loan was giving the go-ahead after Proton's evaluation and confirmation that securities met their collateral value.
I'm seeing a lot of that really, now that I have gone I am the scape goat for all of EBANK's problems. Call it what you want, but I probably brought income to EBANK to the tune of double what I took when I left.
For anyone wondering if the funds went to good use, they have helped a phenomenal amount. Our newborn son is now out of intensive care and home where he belongs. Anyone would have made the same choice if given the same scenario, saying otherwise either makes them a liar or a heartless ass.
Do I expect this or anything to ever regain any reputation I had again in Eve? No. But thinking of the dramatic changes we have faced as a result of this helps reduce my morale discomfort at what I done.
Continue to troll or make derogatory comments, I know the outcome has been far better than entertainment derived from a video game. |
Edarti
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Posted - 2009.07.09 06:52:00 -
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Originally by: Cordele
True or not, you probably shouldn't risk showing your face here.
Oh noes what will he do! You might type very angry messages over the interwebz, run Ricdic!
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Conwakleferibok
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Posted - 2009.07.09 06:56:00 -
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Can you somehow prove what happened to your son?
I'd forgive you (hell, I would've donated to you) if you prove it.
...otherwise its just words.
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Trefnis
Minmatar
Viper Squad
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.07.09 06:57:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Ricdic
For anyone wondering if the funds went to good use, they have helped a phenomenal amount. Our newborn son is now out of intensive care and home where he belongs. Anyone would have made the same choice if given the same scenario, saying otherwise either makes them a liar or a heartless ass.
Or you could just leave eve and spend the time on a seccond job like most of us when you are in fiscal trouble...
But if it was not possible then yes, propably everyone would do the same.
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YouGotRipped
Ewigkeit
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Posted - 2009.07.09 06:59:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Ricdic
Continue to troll or make derogatory comments, I know the outcome has been far better than entertainment derived from a video game.
There has been some intense controversy over whether your first name is Richard or Tardic. Care to discuss?
Black Sun Empire |
Ricdic
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.07.09 07:09:00 -
[49]
I have 3 EBANK staff on my facebook. They have all seen my updates, photos on the whole process and probably 100+ comments from family / friends over the past month. Mr Horizontal, Hexxx, Anastasia Heron and a few of my friends from Eve are on there.
I will let one of the EBANK guys post here to confirm/deny if they saw anything on Facebook regarding the situation if they like. |
YouGotRipped
Ewigkeit
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Posted - 2009.07.09 07:14:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Ricdic
I will let one of the EBANK guys post here to confirm/deny if they saw anything on Facebook regarding the situation if they like.
Don't you think we should tell your friends the truth as to why you scammed?
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Ricdic
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.07.09 07:31:00 -
[51]
Sure, let me know YGR :) |
Cobalt Sixty
Caldari
Piezochem
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Posted - 2009.07.09 07:40:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Cordele
Originally by: Kingnuts
Internet Spaceship Bars
Another Serious Business.
Eh?
Reiterating your own statement for you,
Originally by: Cordele
True or not, you probably shouldn't risk showing your face here.
... to which I would have said "lol, or wut?"
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Jagga Spikes
Minmatar
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2009.07.09 08:21:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Kazzac Elentria
/facepalm
this. so this...
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northwesten
Amarr
Trinity Corporate Services
Novus Ordo Mundi
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Posted - 2009.07.09 08:22:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Ricdic
Anyone would have made the same choice if given the same scenario, saying otherwise either makes them a liar or a heartless ass.
Congrats on new born but no I wouldn't because in honest your stealing from CCP on copy right to be honest. That's why I am surprised why CCP hasn't banned all your accounts. To to make this statement is fail tho because your now coming over as full of crap. I wouldn't even I losing my house or not! New born or not why family friends? Everyone having a hard time so please keep that BS to your self because I don't CARE! simple as that.
with this statement alone your should be perm ban on all accounts regardless!
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Kasheem Cetanes
coracao ardente
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.07.09 08:55:00 -
[55]
This thread should either be locked or sent to Crime and Punishment. This isn't a Market Discussion, this is finger pointing uselessness and trolling.
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Mr LaboratoryRat
Confederation of DuckTape Lovers
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Posted - 2009.07.09 08:57:00 -
[56]
nice screenie, what are u doing with 14 vultures in your hangar? I expected that u had some more isk than 9b with all that bpo trading and stuff
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Posted - 2009.07.09 09:01:00 -
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Edited by: thebarry on 09/07/2009 09:03:38
so...what's up guys? how's everything going?
PS I'm trying to grind out some federation navy standings...anyone want to help?!?
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Snasty
Caldari
The Hippies
House of Mercury
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Posted - 2009.07.09 09:05:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Kasheem Cetanes
This thread should either be locked or sent to Crime and Punishment. This isn't a Market Discussion, this is finger pointing uselessness and trolling.
Amusing though...
Pot's calling brass necked kettles whilst standing in glass houses throwing stones at others who are within sin...
..Oh and rhubarb.
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Shinnen
Caldari
Northern Intelligence
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Posted - 2009.07.09 09:26:00 -
[59]
Originally by: skilzrulz
I guess you can do RMT on a alt and no consequences.
Originally by: skilzrulz
Edited by: skilzrulz on 09/07/2009 04:01:49
Picture of him online
Why would he still be online after RMT scandal. All of his accounts should have been banned. Something EBank isn't letting us know?
RMT or Ebaying doesn't always get a permaban...
Dentara Rast is still online, even though he RMT'd AND his account was eBayed.
So owners have changed hands but the character still exists.
Evidence suggests it's probably unlikely to be a permaban for RMT
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Cordele
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Posted - 2009.07.09 10:07:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Edarti
Originally by: Cordele
True or not, you probably shouldn't risk showing your face here.
Oh noes what will he do! You might type very angry messages over the interwebz, run Ricdic!
No, he might draw unnecessary attention to the fact that he has violated this game's EULA in a way that has got at least one of his accounts banned, and yet is still happpily playing despite it having been reported in the media that he's been thrown out.
CCP may or may not care that he still has active accounts with which to RMT stolen money with again when the "need" arises, but either way it's audacious of him to rub it in their and everybody else's faces by grandstanding on the forums with a character that couldn't be more clearly linked to the banned one.
I wasn't an EBANK customer and I personally have no reason to be angry with Ricdic, but I do think he'll offend some people's sense of justice by posting messages here, and he's tempting fate considering the circumstances.
Originally by: Cobalt Sixty
Originally by: Cordele
True or not, you probably shouldn't risk showing your face here.
... to which I would have said "lol, or wut?"
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D'ceet
Lone Star Joint Venture
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.07.09 10:08:00 -
[61]
easily one of my favorite threads of the week...
Please re-size it to a maximum of 400 x 120 with the file size not exceeding 24000 bytes.Applebabe |
Chantilly Layce
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Posted - 2009.07.09 10:44:00 -
[62]
Originally by: skilzrulz
Why would he still be online after RMT scandal. All of his accounts should have been banned. Something EBank isn't letting us know?
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.07.09 11:40:00 -
[63]
Quote:
Anyone would have made the same choice if given the same scenario, saying otherwise either makes them a liar or a heartless ass.
Don't project your self justifications onto others, they don't have your principles nor cultural education.
Quote:
Do I expect this or anything to ever regain any reputation I had again in Eve?
There's something intangible called "taste".
I am sure if you acted in a different way, you'd have attracted empathy for your forced actions and people could at least accept you back in the community.
See YGR he scammed and probably he won't get public money again but managed to not make himself a pariah, something you did not even try to do. You keep the "I am way smarter than you" attitude.
Quote:
Congrats on new born but no I wouldn't because in honest your stealing from CCP on copy right to be honest. That's why I am surprised why CCP hasn't banned all your accounts
Me too, Blizzard would have gone much more thoroughly on this.
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Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2009.07.09 12:11:00 -
[64]
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Hel O'Ween
Academy of Truth
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Posted - 2009.07.09 12:22:00 -
[65]
Edited by: Hel O''Ween on 09/07/2009 12:25:35
Edit: Forum ate my answer ...
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LaVista Vista
Conservative Shenanigans Party
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Posted - 2009.07.09 12:26:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Kazzac Elentria
I swear the whole lot of you need pistol whipped
/me randomly points to his corporation name.
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Admiral IceBlock
Caldari
Northern Intelligence
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Posted - 2009.07.09 12:29:00 -
[67]
Quote:
For anyone wondering if the funds went to good use, they have helped a phenomenal amount. Our newborn son is now out of intensive care and home where he belongs. Anyone would have made the same choice if given the same scenario, saying otherwise either makes them a liar or a heartless ass.
You're a ****** tbh. I could not care less about your son. Want sympathy? Post in out-of-pod experience!
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flakeys
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2009.07.09 13:01:00 -
[68]
Edited by: flakeys on 09/07/2009 13:05:31
How much you'd think 50 bille is worth when sold out of game so i can see if one account to play with is worth it or if i should just keep the 2 going?
Originally by: Ricdic
All Skilz has to do is give EBANK permission to divulge his loan practices. If they give the all clear, I can just be continually called a liar etc etc. If they confirm what I have said it saves people from losing a pile of cash when he scams. Win/Win for MD really.
Our white knight comes to save MD , how nice of him.
If you made the right choice is up to your measurements ric , but it's frikking funny that of all people you come in here to warn about a possible scam.It really is after you broke the game boundaries wich the person you are accusing has not ...
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Etheri Grim
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Posted - 2009.07.09 13:20:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Admiral IceBlock
Quote:
For anyone wondering if the funds went to good use, they have helped a phenomenal amount. Our newborn son is now out of intensive care and home where he belongs. Anyone would have made the same choice if given the same scenario, saying otherwise either makes them a liar or a heartless ass.
You're a ****** tbh. I could not care less about your son. Want sympathy? Post in out-of-pod experience!
If I was in the same position with the ability to pay off medical fees and simply have my MMO accounts banned in return, I would do it in a heartbeat. I'd be willing to bet that 99% of people would too.
You know what that 1% would get? Some self-created sense of righteousness and THOUSANDS OF POUNDS OF REAL DEBT.
Being "honest" and "good" doesn't sound like such a great option does it?
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LaVista Vista
Conservative Shenanigans Party
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Posted - 2009.07.09 13:55:00 -
[70]
You know, EVE Online is just a game after all.
Here's how I look at it: People are trustworthy to the degree where losing their "Virtual identity", makes up for the emotional effect it's going to have on you, in the long term.
Some people try to rationalize corporate theft, as can be seen in C&P all the time. But there will always be latent guilt somewhere. It's just a matter of time before it sneaks up on you.
Of course, there's people who play the game to steal from others. But those show their true colour sooner rather than later.
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Anastasia Heron
Amarr
Interstellar Planetary
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2009.07.09 14:15:00 -
[71]
As one of the people with full access to Ric's Facebook page, I can find no compelling reason to say his family situation is anything other than as he has described it.
So. For what that's worth to y'all.
Ric, maybe you can let us pod you a dozen times or so and sell your corpses. Might go a long way toward recovering that 200b. :)
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cosmoray
Cosmoray Construction
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Posted - 2009.07.09 14:25:00 -
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All the BS'ing aside I would be pretty annoyed if someone successfully raised capital even if EBANK 'knew' that person had deaulted on a loan.
I couldn't care less for privacy of customers, etc.. if we get screwed in MD because of it.
EBANK terms of service can be changed whenever they like. Just change it that if someone defaults the name should become public.
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brutoid
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.07.09 14:32:00 -
[73]
Originally by: YouGotRipped
Originally by: Ricdic
Continue to troll or make derogatory comments, I know the outcome has been far better than entertainment derived from a video game.
There has been some intense controversy over whether your first name is Richard or Tardic. Care to discuss?
Plus there's also been intense speculation over the amount of 'Back Street Boys' records you own. Is it all of them?
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Saehta
Sigillum Militum Xpisti
Novus Ordo Mundi
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Posted - 2009.07.09 14:35:00 -
[74]
So people dont like ricdic and I wont be investing in skillz future business deals until EBANK discloses info.
Moving on
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Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2009.07.09 14:58:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Saehta
So people dont like ricdic and I wont be investing in skillz future business deals until EBANK discloses info.
Moving on
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Cobalt Sixty
Caldari
Piezochem
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Posted - 2009.07.09 15:00:00 -
[76]
Edited by: Cobalt Sixty on 09/07/2009 15:02:56
Originally by: Cordele
No, he might draw unnecessary attention to the fact that he has violated this game's EULA in a way that has got at least one of his accounts banned, and yet is still happpily playing despite it having been reported in the media that he's been thrown out.
1) The account used to violate the EULA was banned. CCP (generally speaking) appear to ban accounts, not people.
2) Regarding "The Media", the old adage of "Don't believe everthing you read" comes to mind. This is the same media that implies you can directly buy ISK with dollars - see the second last paragraph here as evidence of how accurate they can't be.
Originally by: Cordele
CCP may or may not care that he still has active accounts with which to RMT stolen money with again when the "need" arises, but either way it's audacious of him to rub it in their and everybody else's faces by grandstanding on the forums with a character that couldn't be more clearly linked to the banned one.
You seem to imply that Ricdic has oodles and oodles of ISK solely waiting to be distributed to nefarious persons via repeated shady dealings.
Would you like to quote your sources for this audacious claim or are you worried that the volume of your bum speaking would deafen the whole lot of us?
(Since you seemed a bit slow on the uptake about the previous comments, I'll give you a hint: I'm saying that you pulled that one directly from your lower anatomy and without any excuse.)
Otherwise he (Ricdic) is posting in response with the identity he (and we) most identify him with, which it just so happens may not have been used in the preceding RMT shenanigans (oh dear, that word again).
Funny, that - almost the logical thing to do in this situation when somebody talks smack about you, isn't it?
Originally by: Cordele
I wasn't an EBANK customer and I personally have no reason to be angry with Ricdic, but I do think he'll offend some people's sense of justice by posting messages here, and he's tempting fate considering the circumstances.
People being offended in my EVE Online?
Heavens above, how will the poor dears all cope?
EDIT: For spelling, and to celebrate "bum" not being blocked too. Hurrah!
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Brock Nelson
Caldari
Flux Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2009.07.09 15:22:00 -
[77]
*golf clap*
Congrats everyone for getting all of your panties twisted up over old news.
1. Ricdic scammed, ohhh ****, even I didn't know that! MOVE ON!
2. Skil is being called into question, funny how he isn't even trying to defend himself hmm...
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Jagga Spikes
Minmatar
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2009.07.09 15:23:00 -
[78]
Edited by: Jagga Spikes on 09/07/2009 15:23:04
Originally by: Cobalt Sixty
Edited by: Cobalt Sixty on 09/07/2009 15:02:56
Originally by: Cordele
No, he might draw unnecessary attention to the fact that he has violated this game's EULA in a way that has got at least one of his accounts banned, and yet is still happpily playing despite it having been reported in the media that he's been thrown out.
1) The account used to violate the EULA was banned. CCP (generally speaking) appear to ban accounts, not people.
...
because guns kill people. we know that, right?
i find it interesting that a person that broke the rules. and says that he will brake them again, is allowed to do so. last patch, declining EULA put you out of the game. or, are some people more equal?
again...
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Zero Uptick
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Posted - 2009.07.09 15:23:00 -
[79]
the logical contortions some of you people spin to defend this are quite telling
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flakeys
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2009.07.09 15:31:00 -
[80]
Edited by: flakeys on 09/07/2009 15:32:48
I am not surprised why ric did it.Yes prob would do the same in his situation BUT i am surprised how easy people are going over the fact here that you can easily RMT without a prob here.The people that are 'offended'
mostly are not about that ric scammed but that he did RMT yet still can play.Even ric himself must see how odd this is.
So i just buy a new account , use it purely for selling isk wich will result in a ban only of that account if i am caught.With the cost of the new account taken off i can make a little extra cash every month and CCP wouldn't mind i'd do this.
In other words if we use the word 'bot' or 'macro'
the topic get's closed and done enough we can get a temp ban BUT we can sell isk without a prob.
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Brock Nelson
Caldari
Flux Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2009.07.09 15:40:00 -
[81]
Originally by: flakeys
So i just buy a new account , use it purely for selling isk wich will result in a ban only of that account if i am caught.With the cost of the new account taken off i can make a little extra cash every month and CCP wouldn't mind i'd do this.
Where are you going to get the isk to sell? Everything is logged, so if you're sending isk to your RMT selling account from your main account, your main account will get banned as well. Why? Because it's involved with RMT
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corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.07.09 15:48:00 -
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Edited by: corestwo on 09/07/2009 15:49:49
Soooo. This tangent is fascinating, but I looked back through Skilz' titan IPO thread, particularly towards ebank employees. At the time a lot of it (his IPO included) seemed unusual and fishy, but with these new...rumors...coming to light, a lot of things are cast in a very different light.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1094124&page=2#31 - AC155 asking whether Skilz has any outstanding loans. Skilz denies it. Of course, AC seems to be the "due diligence" manager of sorts for Ebank. At least, that's the role I've often seen him in.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1094124&page=2#43 - Apparently unsatisfied with the answer, AC155 asks again. Skilz again denies it. AC leaves, there is much bickering over the next several pages, and then...
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1094124&page=6#167 - Hexxx advises against investing! But, with no reason! Well, sort of.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1094124&page=7#183 - "It is a private matter right now." Of course at the time it appeared as though he was, perhaps, seeking to protect EBank's own ventures.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1094124&page=7#196 - LVV insinuates that "maybe there's a good reason", but still being nice and vague. Hmm, nice and vague, almost the way EBank employees act when they know something they cannot yet disclose. Interesting.
So, not to draw any premature conclusions, but...want to come clean yet Skilz?
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azalea anastasia
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Posted - 2009.07.09 15:52:00 -
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Edited by: azalea anastasia on 09/07/2009 15:52:35
Originally by: Brock Nelson
Originally by: flakeys
So i just buy a new account , use it purely for selling isk wich will result in a ban only of that account if i am caught.With the cost of the new account taken off i can make a little extra cash every month and CCP wouldn't mind i'd do this.
Where are you going to get the isk to sell? Everything is logged, so if you're sending isk to your RMT selling account from your main account, your main account will get banned as well. Why? Because it's involved with RMT
ah so it's only possible if you've gained the isk by scamming/stealing on that account?Makes sence COUGH
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Scott Ryder
Amarr
Suns Of Korhal
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Posted - 2009.07.09 16:05:00 -
[84]
This thread has been entertaining :o keep it going.
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Daeva Vios
New Eden Credit Bureau
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Posted - 2009.07.09 16:22:00 -
[85]
This thread is full of win and awesome.
Honestly, it's a game people. I love how some of you start frothing at the mouth over this stuff. It's hilarious.
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Ray McCormack
hirr
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Posted - 2009.07.09 16:26:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Scott Ryder
This thread has been entertaining :o keep it going.
I went to the quack because my wingwong was itchy; he says I have genital ricdics. 
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Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2009.07.09 16:44:00 -
[87]
Originally by: Ray McCormack
Originally by: Scott Ryder
This thread has been entertaining :o keep it going.
I went to the quack because my wingwong was itchy; he says I have genital ricdics.
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Gabriel Virtus
hirr
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.07.09 16:44:00 -
[88]
Thank you for the warning Ricdic. I had a feeling about skilz.
I would suggest that you make a topic about what you did, why you did it, and that you are sorry for what you did ( if you mean the third of course ).
Ricdic is a Corp theif, he didn't steal any money for depositors. If anything, people should thank him for creating EBank and giving so man an oppurtunity for idle isk. I am sure he made EBank more than he stole and also sure that EBank has so much business thanks to Ricdic. What he did was wrong, but the world is not black and white. Context matters. I am growing tired of all the self righteous garbage in these ***** threads.
For those of you complaining about hearing about this thread and yelling move on, the door is that way. I know it's a novel conceptin EVE, but you dont have to read or post assanine replies. If you are sick of hearing an argument or topic, don't read it.
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Ray McCormack
hirr
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Posted - 2009.07.09 16:57:00 -
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Originally by: Gabriel Virtus
Thank you for the warning Ricdic. I had a feeling about skilz.
So you thank a known thief and liar rather than myself and Hexxx, two moral bastions of this community? I feel deflated, unloved, and somewhat hungry.
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Emywn Vanya
Caldari
Redemption or Retribution
Exxxotic
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Posted - 2009.07.09 17:08:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Jagga Spikes
Originally by: Kazzac Elentria
/facepalm
this. so this...
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Grendell
Technologies Unlimited
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Posted - 2009.07.09 17:11:00 -
[91]
Originally by: Ray McCormack
Originally by: Gabriel Virtus
Thank you for the warning Ricdic. I had a feeling about skilz.
So you thank a known thief and liar rather than myself and Hexxx, two moral bastions of this community? I feel deflated, unloved, and somewhat hungry.
/Hugs Ray, and insert an air pump into ray's ear, and slides a pancake towards ray.
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Fitz VonHeise
Foundation
Sons of Tangra
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Posted - 2009.07.09 17:19:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Brock Nelson
As it was already explained in the SCC-Lounge, only the account tied to the RMT incident is banned. Most likely it was EBank Ricdic that got banned.
Not that one...
as we see Ricdic buying a GCT for that alt recently.
So do we think there is enough here to put skilzrulz on my Thieves Of Eve list but disputed? 
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Sir Elliot
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Posted - 2009.07.09 17:35:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Sir Elliot
In immediately after Ricdic in what is destined to be an epic, epic thread.
I am the Nostradamus of this thread.
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Chris15
RennTech
Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2009.07.09 17:39:00 -
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I've never actually met Ricdic ingame etc .... but to be honest I can't blame this guy. Assuming his personal circumstances are correct then can you really blame him for what he did? I mean its a sick child, because at the end of the day he sold some virtual money in a computer game, a computer game!! Yes I play this game, I know, but as an entertainment medium, nothing else. Its not supposed to be overly serious. I'm an EBANK customer but I wasnt panicing, simply kept my money in the bank and saw it out ... if anything the whole ordeal is a testiment to EBANK's ability to restore confidence and manage to survive through the whole situation!
Although to be fair it shows bad character on Ricdics part but like I said, the circumstances allowed for such actions so I can't hate or even dislike the guy for this reason.
Just my two cents...
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cosmoray
Cosmoray Construction
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Posted - 2009.07.09 17:40:00 -
[95]
Edited by: cosmoray on 09/07/2009 17:40:34
Edited by: cosmoray on 09/07/2009 17:40:09
Originally by: Fitz VonHeise
Originally by: Brock Nelson
As it was already explained in the SCC-Lounge, only the account tied to the RMT incident is banned. Most likely it was EBank Ricdic that got banned.
Not that one...
as we see Ricdic buying a GCT for that alt recently.
So do we think there is enough here to put skilzrulz on my Thieves Of Eve list but disputed?
Services I Provide:
Alliance Creation ● Caldari Standings ● Thieves Of EvE ● Titans ● My Links
Yes, but disputed. Skilzrulz is not trying to clear himself which could be done easily. Have EBANK post the info if he is clean.
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Dzil
Caldari
Banana Nut Pancakes
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Posted - 2009.07.09 17:58:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Grendell
Originally by: Ray McCormack
Originally by: Gabriel Virtus
Thank you for the warning Ricdic. I had a feeling about skilz.
So you thank a known thief and liar rather than myself and Hexxx, two moral bastions of this community? I feel deflated, unloved, and somewhat hungry.
/Hugs Ray, and insert an air pump into ray's ear, and slides a pancake towards ray.
/me offers a share of Banana Nut Pancakes
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Fitz VonHeise
Foundation
Sons of Tangra
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Posted - 2009.07.09 17:59:00 -
[97]
Originally by: cosmoray
Yes, but disputed. Skilzrulz is not trying to clear himself which could be done easily. Have EBANK post the info if he is clean.
I'll wait a couple of days to give him a chance to request it.
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Brock Nelson
Caldari
Flux Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2009.07.09 18:56:00 -
[98]
He's had adequate time, there was even 2 EBank members present in SCC when the thread took off. Skil has been avoiding a number of questions, even tried to steer the conversation back to Ric a few times.
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SpankMeElmo
Interstellar eXodus
BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2009.07.09 19:16:00 -
[99]
My car needs a new transmission. Which account should I sacrifice?
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Dzil
Caldari
Banana Nut Pancakes
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Posted - 2009.07.09 19:19:00 -
[100]
Originally by: SpankMeElmo
My car needs a new transmission. Which account should I sacrifice?
It's your 15 bucks a month buddy, do what you like.
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Evil Edna
The Glenn Quagmire Finishing School for Young Ladies
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Posted - 2009.07.09 19:51:00 -
[101]
haha , WTS isk, all transfers will be through an alt!
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YouGotRipped
Ewigkeit
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Posted - 2009.07.09 20:29:00 -
[102]
Edited by: YouGotRipped on 09/07/2009 20:35:59
Originally by: Ricdic
Sure, let me know YGR :)
Good, good...
5,000 dollars is a lousy amount to scam, it won't make much of a difference when buying a new house or whatever Ricdic implied he used the money for.
So why did Ricdic scam? Well scam is not the exact word...
In one of his less memorable posts, Ricdic expressed his discontent in regards to how much money other people (presumably Hexxx) were earning in RL compared him. I don't remember the exact factor, guess it was 10 times. Please link that post, Ricdic.
It is my belief that the poor guy developed an inferiority complex and since he regarded Ebank as being private property and / he was doing all the work, it was only normal to supplement his income by RMTing.
Originally by: Ricdic
Call it what you want, but I probably brought income to EBANK to the tune of double what I took when I left.
All that bull**** about buying a new house etc was circumstantial for he started siphoning isk LONG before any suspicions of RMT rose. Furthermore I'm 100% sure he use the ill gotten gains to buy himself peanut butter sandwiches.
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Posted - 2009.07.09 20:38:00 -
[103]
...chilling with a martini as I wait for the next exciting episode of "Take The 'R' Out Of RISK" here on everyone's favourite reality channel, "MD 1".
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YouGotRipped
Ewigkeit
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Posted - 2009.07.09 20:45:00 -
[104]
Edited by: YouGotRipped on 09/07/2009 20:45:13
Originally by: Chantilly Layce
...chilling with a martini as I wait for the next exciting episode of "Take The 'R' Out Of RISK" here on everyone's favourite reality channel, "MD 1".
Hey baby, pass me the martini. 
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Drab Cane
Mining Emporium inc.
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Posted - 2009.07.09 22:54:00 -
[105]
Edited by: Drab Cane on 09/07/2009 22:57:43
So, to recap, skilzrulz tries to discredit EBank via Ricdic, Ricdic tries to discredit skilzrulz, and YGR tries to discredit Ricdic.
Sorta like watching the Joker, Penguin and Riddler arguing about who is the least villainous.
edit: corrected relational logic
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khan sheidoh
Auris Inc
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Posted - 2009.07.10 00:05:00 -
[106]
what's this then ???
Skilz shoots himself in the foot with this one... Ricdic attempts to cover the fact that he fails at handling real life issues while throwing some dry dirt at skilz... Goons quick on the reply so they can go to bed without missing a thread...morsus mihi patting ricdic on the back while answering their own problem...ygr putting some oil on the fire (any chance on recovering forementioned topic ygr ???)
*me hugs chair and orders a nice bubble of brandy*
keep it coming lads
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Gabriel Virtus
hirr
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.07.10 00:15:00 -
[107]
Originally by: Ray McCormack
Originally by: Gabriel Virtus
Thank you for the warning Ricdic. I had a feeling about skilz.
So you thank a known thief and liar rather than myself and Hexxx, two moral bastions of this community? I feel deflated, unloved, and somewhat hungry.
You and Hexx were not being derailed and berated. I have always appreciated you and Hexx's input. Ricdic is a theif and should be treated as such, but his knowledge is still somewhat valuable... If I ever say any sort of redeeming thing about someone, do I have to also throw some pancakes to every one else I respect? Hmm... guess so. I offer much love and pancakes to Ray, Hexx, Chribba, Kazuo, Kazzac, Kwint, BB, PP, and Cosmo ( not necessarily in that order). For anyone I missed, I am very sorry and I offer a consolation waffle. If you would like to apply to Gabriel's Pancake list, please send lots of iskies and pancake mix to Gabriel Virtus, P.O. Box Jita 4-4.
-GV
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Herschel Yamamoto
Agent-Orange
Coalition of Free Stars
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Posted - 2009.07.10 00:43:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Cobalt Sixty
This is the same media that implies you can directly buy ISK with dollars - see the second last paragraph here as evidence of how accurate they can't be.
Yes, that is correct. I spend dollars, I buy PLEX, I get isk, and this is a perfectly legit transaction. In practice, the only rules governing RMT are that you can't buy more dollars with isk than it takes to pay your subscription fees. This is one of the few examples I can recall of a news article about a topic I know directly actually being basically complete and accurate.
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Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2009.07.10 00:44:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Gabriel Virtus
Originally by: Ray McCormack
Originally by: Gabriel Virtus
Thank you for the warning Ricdic. I had a feeling about skilz.
So you thank a known thief and liar rather than myself and Hexxx, two moral bastions of this community? I feel deflated, unloved, and somewhat hungry.
You and Hexx were not being derailed and berated. I have always appreciated you and Hexx's input. Ricdic is a theif and should be treated as such, but his knowledge is still somewhat valuable... If I ever say any sort of redeeming thing about someone, do I have to also throw some pancakes to every one else I respect? Hmm... guess so. I offer much love and pancakes to Ray, Hexx, Chribba, Kazuo, Kazzac, Kwint, BB, PP, and Cosmo ( not necessarily in that order). For anyone I missed, I am very sorry and I offer a consolation waffle. If you would like to apply to Gabriel's Pancake list, please send lots of iskies and pancake mix to Gabriel Virtus, P.O. Box Jita 4-4.
-GV
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Stardust CEO
Stardust Manufacturing
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Posted - 2009.07.10 01:44:00 -
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Would strawberries be a good hedge against maple syrup crashing, assuming that the decline of waffles is not likely? Please reply quickly, I heard something somewhere from someone, etc. (ps - buy strawberries).
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corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.07.10 02:59:00 -
[111]
Originally by: Stardust CEO
Would strawberries be a good hedge against maple syrup crashing, assuming that the decline of waffles is not likely? Please reply quickly, I heard something somewhere from someone, etc. (ps - buy strawberries).
Well it's obviously safer than anything Skilz can or will offer.
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Proton Power
Amarr
Relentless Construction
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Posted - 2009.07.10 03:29:00 -
[112]
As my name has been mentioned a few times in this thread, and since I have no obligation to EBANK or Skillz I will put out what I know. Current EBANK staff is the only other ones that may know more than me from the time after I left.
First as pointed out by Ric, the BPO's were put into the Lease program and then held under the auto loans based on we hold your T2 BPO.
While I was in EBANK more loans were approved while at same time some BPO's were given back to Skilz. This I did not approve of, and actually posted on the EBANK internal forums to stop any more future loans or bpo's being handed back because of this. EBANK may deny this, but don't know any reason they would. I did this because I seen skillz was getting to much isk with less and less collateral.
I do know at the time of that post there was enough bpo's to cover any isk he owed AND interest for a while.
A bit after this I left EBANK, but still had access to view the loans and peoples account info. I do know skilz did pay back a good portion of one of his initial larger loans.
At this point Skilz came to me and said he had no way to pay back the loans, and was wondering what could be worked out, I explained I did not work for EBANK and he would have to talk to Ric.
A few days later my viewing access of accounts was gone, so I cant say if Skilz ever paid another isk or not on the loans, but Ric personally told me that Skillz was not going to be charged anymore interest and the bpo's would be liquidated which would be more than enough to cover the loans.
I did not hear another thing about it until the ricdic scam, and it seems the rest of ebank was not aware of some of the dealings.
I do know that just 1 of the BPO's more than covered most the loans he had out, from my memory the loans totaled about 180bil isk including interest when I left and was told no more interest would be created, skilz paid back I want to say 30-40bil isk.
That left about 150bil isk give or take. EBANK held an Absolution, Tachyon, Megapulse, Light Pulse, Light Beam, Retribution (which was given back, and I think were the isk came from for what was paid on teh loans), and possibly a curse bpo. The absoultion ended up being sold for only 40bil isk, which was way underpriced. That is not skilz fault IMO, and should have covered the majority of what he owed.
IMO Skilz may owe 20-40bil more isk, but its hard to judge based on I don't know for sure about the curse bpo, if ebank did have it then skilz owes nothing, ebank probably made isk on teh deal, if ebank didn't have the curse bpo, then he probably owes the 20-40bil, based on the absolution bpo being valued at what it shoudl have.
Now here is the other part of this I don't kjnow and it seems ebank does not trully know either, Skillz has 2 absolution bpo's which tells me he got that bpo back, I think ric gave him the bpo back (Even after i let everyone know not to do so, and everyone agreed about it) and then skillz probably does owe the 100-120bil isk figure.
Again nobody really knows including skilz, so the entire arguement IMO is kinda void, Ebank nor myself trully know if the bpo's were sold, given back or for what prices, and skilz trully feels his bpo's covered the loans, but Skillz way over values all his bpo's as you seen in the titan thread, so its very much a he said / she said with noone actually trully knowing what happend.
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Sir Elliot
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Posted - 2009.07.10 04:58:00 -
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Man.
This is a real cluster****.
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Cobalt Sixty
Caldari
Piezochem
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Posted - 2009.07.10 05:54:00 -
[114]
Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto
Originally by: Cobalt Sixty
This is the same media that implies you can directly buy ISK with dollars - see the second last paragraph here as evidence of how accurate they can't be.
Yes, that is correct. I spend dollars, I buy PLEX, I get isk, and this is a perfectly legit transaction. In practice, the only rules governing RMT are that you can't buy more dollars with isk than it takes to pay your subscription fees. This is one of the few examples I can recall of a news article about a topic I know directly actually being basically complete and accurate.
Except not really.
The article states "nor if he had bought kredits with real dollars", which clearly implies Dollars -> ISK, not the actual process of Dollars -> PLEX/Game Time Code -> ISK.
We might know better, but it is highly unlikely the average reader is going to detect the difference if they haven't been exposed to EVE before.
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No Mahdss
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Posted - 2009.07.10 12:58:00 -
[115]
This is the plan
1. Ricdic to write an autobiography called "Why my son was more important than my reputation"
2. Passes to me to sell for 25mill each (PDF)
3. I keep 10% and donate the rest to charities.
4. He comes back 6 months later as a reputable donater for the poor and homeless. A real hero.
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Hel O'Ween
Academy of Truth
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Posted - 2009.07.10 13:12:00 -
[116]
Originally by: Etheri Grim
If I was in the same position with the ability to pay off medical fees and simply have my MMO accounts banned in return, I would do it in a heartbeat. I'd be willing to bet that 99% of people would too.
You know what that 1% would get? Some self-created sense of righteousness and THOUSANDS OF POUNDS OF REAL DEBT.
Being "honest" and "good" doesn't sound like such a great option does it?
So, you're basically saying "If I feel so, I break every contract." This time it's "only" a legal contract with a game company. Next time it's a contract with my car dealer. Hell, what is a piece of meatl compared to a human being?
It's that very attitude that currently causes grief to millions of people and a great financial depression IRL. "Contracts, agremments, ethic bindings? Ah, to hell with them."
And the sad and very ironical part is that those scums have the chuzpe to go "Uhh, but I do get my bonuses, right? I mean, I have a contract, after all ..."
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Cobalt Sixty
Caldari
Piezochem
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Posted - 2009.07.10 13:22:00 -
[117]
Originally by: Hel O'Ween
It's that very attitude that currently causes grief to millions of people and a great financial depression IRL.
Yeah, yeah - whatever - but now I have a yacht so at least I'm happy.
I'd say sue me, but you'd be wasting your time since all my assets are off shore (get it?)
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Midas Man
Caldari
Dzark Innovations
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Posted - 2009.07.10 13:43:00 -
[118]
Originally by: Hel O'Ween
So, you're basically saying "If I feel so, I break every contract." This time it's "only" a legal contract with a game company. Next time it's a contract with my car dealer. Hell, what is a piece of meatl compared to a human being?
It's that very attitude that currently causes grief to millions of people and a great financial depression IRL. "Contracts, agremments, ethic bindings? Ah, to hell with them."
And the sad and very ironical part is that those scums have the chuzpe to go "Uhh, but I do get my bonuses, right? I mean, I have a contract, after all ..."
common man be realistic, all the fat cats in the banks are still rich and are still recieving massive bonus's. And its them that caused the great depression Not the unemployed guy that the guy at the bank said sure you can afford a 100K morgage just sign here.
And any financial adviser under the sun will tell you to priorities your money if your struggling, and tbh the health and well being of a child is far more important than an agreement with company that will be bailed out by the government anyway.
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Leowen
Industrial Giants
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Posted - 2009.07.10 15:34:00 -
[119]
Originally by: Gabriel Virtus
I offer much love and pancakes to Ray, Hexx, Chribba, Kazuo, Kazzac, Kwint, BB, PP, and Cosmo ( not necessarily in that order). For anyone I missed, I am very sorry and I offer a consolation waffle. If you would like to apply to Gabriel's Pancake list, please send lots of iskies and pancake mix to Gabriel Virtus, P.O. Box Jita 4-4.
-GV
As someone who freely admits contributing little to the MD community beyond an occasional flame or troll, I will accept your waffle with gratitude.
Mmmm waffles...
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skilzrulz
Gallente
0neZeR0 Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.07.10 16:02:00 -
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Start DateInterest RateBalanceMin PaymentActive
10/3/2008 5.50 % 0.00 1,456,568,063.78 by 5/10/2010 No Manage Account
10/12/2008 5.00 % -8,732,364,210.68 3,203,504,915.49 by 5/10/2010 Yes Manage Account
10/24/2008 5.00 % -89,670,955,033.26 7,047,710,814.08 by 5/10/2010 Yes Manage Account
10/30/2008 5.00 % -26,812,391,609.55 5,339,174,859.15 by 5/10/2010 Yes Manage Account
11/7/2008 5.00 % -13,373,893,840.72 3,630,638,904.22 by 4/10/2010 Yes Manage Account
Total amount left on loans: 138,589,604,693.66
All of the collateral was sold, and not reported towards my loan.
Prints in ricdic's posession, along with my estimation of a value in today's market.
Absolution: 70B
Curse: 60B
Tachyon Beam Laser II: 25B
Mega Pulse Laser II: 20B
Dual Light Pulse Laser II: 12B
Medium Beam Laser II: 12B
Retribution Blueprint: 27B
Total: 226B
In my estimation EBank owes me.
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KaarBaak
Minmatar
Squirrel Team
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Posted - 2009.07.10 16:09:00 -
[121]
Originally by: Proton Power
As my name has been mentioned a few times in this thread, and since I have no obligation to EBANK or Skillz I will put out what I know. Current EBANK staff is the only other ones that may know more than me from the time after I left.
First as pointed out by Ric, the BPO's were put into the Lease program and then held under the auto loans based on we hold your T2 BPO.
While I was in EBANK more loans were approved while at same time some BPO's were given back to Skilz. This I did not approve of, and actually posted on the EBANK internal forums to stop any more future loans or bpo's being handed back because of this. EBANK may deny this, but don't know any reason they would. I did this because I seen skillz was getting to much isk with less and less collateral.
I do know at the time of that post there was enough bpo's to cover any isk he owed AND interest for a while.
A bit after this I left EBANK, but still had access to view the loans and peoples account info. I do know skilz did pay back a good portion of one of his initial larger loans.
At this point Skilz came to me and said he had no way to pay back the loans, and was wondering what could be worked out, I explained I did not work for EBANK and he would have to talk to Ric.
A few days later my viewing access of accounts was gone, so I cant say if Skilz ever paid another isk or not on the loans, but Ric personally told me that Skillz was not going to be charged anymore interest and the bpo's would be liquidated which would be more than enough to cover the loans.
I did not hear another thing about it until the ricdic scam, and it seems the rest of ebank was not aware of some of the dealings.
I do know that just 1 of the BPO's more than covered most the loans he had out, from my memory the loans totaled about 180bil isk including interest when I left and was told no more interest would be created, skilz paid back I want to say 30-40bil isk.
That left about 150bil isk give or take. EBANK held an Absolution, Tachyon, Megapulse, Light Pulse, Light Beam, Retribution (which was given back, and I think were the isk came from for what was paid on teh loans), and possibly a curse bpo. The absoultion ended up being sold for only 40bil isk, which was way underpriced. That is not skilz fault IMO, and should have covered the majority of what he owed.
IMO Skilz may owe 20-40bil more isk, but its hard to judge based on I don't know for sure about the curse bpo, if ebank did have it then skilz owes nothing, ebank probably made isk on teh deal, if ebank didn't have the curse bpo, then he probably owes the 20-40bil, based on the absolution bpo being valued at what it shoudl have.
Now here is the other part of this I don't kjnow and it seems ebank does not trully know either, Skillz has 2 absolution bpo's which tells me he got that bpo back, I think ric gave him the bpo back (Even after i let everyone know not to do so, and everyone agreed about it) and then skillz probably does owe the 100-120bil isk figure.
Again nobody really knows including skilz, so the entire arguement IMO is kinda void, Ebank nor myself trully know if the bpo's were sold, given back or for what prices, and skilz trully feels his bpo's covered the loans, but Skillz way over values all his bpo's as you seen in the titan thread, so its very much a he said / she said with noone actually trully knowing what happend.
Well, this post leads to a couple of conclusions:
A) There is so much isk and collateral flowing in and out of ebank that noone really knows what's going on.
B) People who no longer work for ebank may have access to account info for everyone who has isk in there.
C) airing of such 'dirty laundry' probably makes some ebank personnel nervous.
I await the inevitable thread dated 2 August, 2009 entitled: "I am having trouble logging into the ebank website...is anyone else having the same problem?"
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Ray McCormack
hirr
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Posted - 2009.07.10 16:15:00 -
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Originally by: skilzrulz
In my estimation EBank owes me.
I presume you now give the bank permission to post details of your loans to refute this obvious lie?
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Dzil
Caldari
Banana Nut Pancakes
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Posted - 2009.07.10 16:31:00 -
[123]
WOW. /popcorn
Where do I send the isk?
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skilzrulz
Gallente
0neZeR0 Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.07.10 16:32:00 -
[124]
Edited by: skilzrulz on 10/07/2009 16:33:12
Originally by: Ray McCormack
Originally by: skilzrulz
In my estimation EBank owes me.
I presume you now give the bank permission to post details of your loans to refute this obvious lie?
I'm already in negotiations as to settling this as a private matter.
My credit situation is to be discussed by only me and my creditors.
You admitted sharing accounts with Ricdic, what makes you think that you are holier than thou'
Anyways, thanks for all the public contributions, this really makes EvE fun, you have no clue how many times I got up out of my chair and ran around my office clapping like a little kid!
EVE WARS EPISODE III - THE RMT'ING SAGA CONTINUES. . .
STAY TUNED FOR EPISODE IV - RETURN OF THE ACCOUNT SHARERS
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CCP Zymurgist
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.07.10 16:51:00 -
[125]
Thread locked by request of OP.
Zymurgist
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