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LiBressa	Posted - 2009.07.10 14:59:00 - [1] Hate to Whine CCP, but what happened about this as we are now in the 3rd Quarter of 2009 ? "While the Nighthawk may have some performance issues, due to the lack of power output, compared to the other field command ships, the ship is not designed to fit Heavy Assault Missile launchers and Micro Warp Drives. CCP plans on reviewing the command ships as a whole in the future. CCP Zulupark stated that there will be several balance changes early 2009, and that this will likely be part of it, with the Nighthawk getting a good look." Taken from CSM minutes with CCP.
Draahk Chimera Caldari Priory Of The Lemon Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2009.07.10 15:30:00 - [2] Holy XXX. Are you joking? Nighthawk is my favorite ship ever. For pve obviously. Im very very happy with my NH, dont touch it.
Gypsio III Dirty Filthy Perverts	Posted - 2009.07.10 17:16:00 - [3] Hey, look at that. One mention of "Nighthawk" and a carebear immediately pops up telling everyone how uber his stupid carebearmobile is. Because everyone knows that Nighthawk = PVE. And there's a very good reason for this. It's because the Nighthawk doesn't have the PG to be fit for PVP. You can't fit HMs, MWD and a gang mod without gimping yourself with multiple fitting mods. No other field CS has this problem. More PG needed, as a million threads have stated.
Arthur Frayn V.O.F.L IRON CORE H E L I C O N	Posted - 2009.07.10 18:16:00 - [4] I found nighthawk is good for soloing sleeper rats in class 1/2 wormholes but not much else. Better to fly any kind of battleship for level 4's and a drake in pvp. Nighthawk not meant to fit HAMs is lol when you have the Cerb which does a much better job with HM's. Sleipnir is the only field command ship imo that doesn't need a change to make it useful over a hac, battlecruiser or battleship. -- Eventus stultorum magister.
Tommy Blue	Posted - 2009.07.10 18:21:00 - [5] Edited by: Tommy Blue on 10/07/2009 18:20:53 Originally by: Gypsio III Hey, look at that. One mention of "Nighthawk" and a carebear immediately pops up telling everyone how uber his stupid carebearmobile is. Because everyone knows that Nighthawk = PVE. Lol at Draahk being a carebear.
Tommy Blue	Posted - 2009.07.10 18:25:00 - [6] It wont edit my post 2 times :( And the nighthawk isn't meant to fit hams, it can fit an active tank or a passive tank with HMLs just fine.
Draahk Chimera Caldari Priory Of The Lemon Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2009.07.10 18:45:00 - [7] Yes, I use my NH for my isk-farming. So what? I use my claymore, my vagabond, my pest, my maelstrom and my phoenix for pvp. Or am I the only one who thinks about training ships that actually work for a situation rather then cry until all ships works for all situations and they all are the same? Should we just cry to CCP until they remove all ships but one and make it uber for all possible situations? Perhaps give this one ship all the bonuses to all the weapon systems in game and a 8-8-8 slot layout? Would you be happy then?
Gypsio III Dirty Filthy Perverts	Posted - 2009.07.10 20:02:00 - [8] Don't be stupid. You'd be pretty ****ed off if your Claymore had to fit three RCU IIs to get a PVP fitting on board. Hey, look at this active tank with HMLs that fits "just fine": [Nighthawk, got RCU IIs?] Damage Control II Ballistic Control System II Reactor Control Unit II Reactor Control Unit II Reactor Control Unit II Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800 Large Shield Booster II Photon Scattering Field II Invulnerability Field II Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Skirmish Warfare Link - Interdiction Manoeuvres Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Anti-Explosive Screen Reinforcer I At least by fitting those three RCU IIs you get an awesome tank. Yep, this can tank over 500 DPS! That's almost the DPS of a Drake! Incredible!
Manfred Rickenbocker Professors On Steriods DEFI4NT	Posted - 2009.07.10 20:38:00 - [9] Fix my Eos too while you are at it. Drone bay bonus and Infowar links? Fail! The nighthawk is fine. FYI, dont fit a gang mod. Its a waste of PG on a ship that doesnt get a bonus for it. If you want gang mods, bring the Fleet Command. ------------------------ Peace through superior firepower: a guiding principle for uncertain times.
Draahk Chimera Caldari Priory Of The Lemon Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2009.07.10 21:43:00 - [10] Ok, first you go pvp in this: [Nighthawk, PVE] Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Photon Scattering Field II Photon Scattering Field II Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile [empty high slot] Core Defence Field Purger I Core Defence Field Purger I --- Then you go run a mission in this: [Claymore, PVP] Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II Damage Control II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Warp Disruptor II 425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M 425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M 425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M 425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M 425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M Skirmish Warfare Link - Interdiction Maneuvers Skirmish Warfare Link - Rapid Deployment Siege Warfare Link - Shield Harmonizing Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I Ever heard of different ships for different purposes?

Fon Revedhort Monks of War	Posted - 2009.07.10 22:47:00 - [11] You can PvP with NH, I've personally made a movie about it (the proof) while flying solo. But does it need more grid? Heck, YES! Like 120-150 MW more. ---[center] Please resize your signature to the maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist
Straight Hustlin Gallente The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2009.07.10 23:20:00 - [12] Anyone who could possibly complain about the nighthawk of all CS should really have the head examined.
Tommy Blue	Posted - 2009.07.12 15:53:00 - [13] Originally by: Gypsio III Don't be stupid. You'd be pretty ****ed off if your Claymore had to fit three RCU IIs to get a PVP fitting on board. Hey, look at this active tank with HMLs that fits "just fine": Well, if you want to fit it like that... [Nighthawk, Look! No RCUs!] Damage Control II Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II Ballistic Control System II Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Large Shield Booster II Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800 Photon Scattering Field II Invulnerability Field II Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile [empty high slot] Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I Hobgoblin II x5 +1 PG implant or drop the BCU for another PDS for moar tank.
Hirana Yoshida Behavioral Affront	Posted - 2009.07.12 16:07:00 - [14] The quoted CCP reply was to a question/demand where the poster wanted enough fitting to make the ship overpowered both tanking and damage wise. Last time I checked the Nighthawk has the same limitations as all the other commandships; you have to make compromises/sacrifices to get it close to 'pwn'. It is currently godly at what it does, provide gang-link while utterly demolishing cruisers (and some frigs) at monster ranges.
Gypsio III Dirty Filthy Perverts	Posted - 2009.07.12 16:47:00 - [15] Originally by: Tommy Blue Well, if you want to fit it like that... [Nighthawk, Look! No RCUs!] Damage Control II Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II Ballistic Control System II Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Large Shield Booster II Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800 Photon Scattering Field II Invulnerability Field II Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile [empty high slot] Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I Hobgoblin II x5 +1 PG implant or drop the BCU for another PDS for moar tank. Lolz. You've included three fitting mods, and you still don't have a gang mod, and you still need a PG implant. I couldn't have put my point across better myself.
Manfred Rickenbocker Professors On Steriods DEFI4NT	Posted - 2009.07.13 17:48:00 - [16] Originally by: Gypsio III Lolz. You've included three fitting mods, and you still don't have a gang mod, and you still need a PG implant. I couldn't have put my point across better myself. And this is why the Nighthawk wont get revisited (and probably not my Eos either ) is because people believe everything needs to be fitted on them without making compromises. Its dumb to fit a gang mod on it because its a waste of PG. Also, PDSs add shield capacity, recharge, so on... its not just fitting mod. Another ship you might want to look at that also has an impossible fitting: Astarte. I know I keep throwing out Gallente examples, but damn, you Caldari are whining about one of the better ships out there. ------------------------ Peace through superior firepower: a guiding principle for uncertain times.
Laechyd Eldgorn Caldari Endemic Aggression Exalted.	Posted - 2009.07.13 18:48:00 - [17] Many caldari ships lack enough power grid to fit MWD compared to i.e. minmatar ships of same size. This is mostly because you can/will fit AC's for minmatar ships in pvp where you need MWD that leaves you much more powergrid to use for MWD and HP buffer/active tanking modules. This is not only issue with nighthawk but should be fixed regardless, imho.


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