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Zenst
Tsunami Cartel
SQUEE.
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Posted - 2012.05.22 16:51:00 -
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Propolis wrote:So, who else absolutely fking HATES this inventory...
I literally want to castrate the dev who thought it up, tested it and then thought, oh - this is good!
rage...
I wrote long post agreeing and got 404'd - useless bunch of carrots. |
Theprimaryisthesecondary istheprimary
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
1
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Posted - 2012.05.22 16:53:00 -
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Bump for the hate. Laugh for the stupid |
Vex Xadi
JNU Corp.
Sentinels of Sukanan Alliance
0
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Posted - 2012.05.22 16:54:00 -
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I must say I uber stoked that my inventory now opens up by itself after EVERY jump.....I found was always annoyed that after EVERY jump i would have to open my cargo up to make sure nothing had fallen out. In addition this feature should encourage players to ALWAYS CHECK AFTER EVERY JUMP for stowaways.....I hate stowaways because they poop in buckets when they are hiding in my cargo....and they ALWAYS leave the buckets
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Maximille Biagge
The Eden Trading International Corporation
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
61
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Posted - 2012.05.22 16:55:00 -
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New inventory is awesome, it's: simple, good looking and full of great new features. Anybody who can't handle it is a bittervet with an inability to adapt to change.
adapt or die gentlemen. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
7016
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Posted - 2012.05.22 16:58:00 -
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Alrione wrote:I dont see any problems. See sig.
The short and sweet of it is: try setting up a consistent and permanent workspace that functions for all your inventory-related use cases.
Quote:If anything Im quite happy about reducing the clusterfuck of windows in eve. What clusterfuck? I could do everything I ever needed to do using two stacks of permanent windows, one stack of non-permanent windows, and one stack of context sensitive windows. They took up minimal space and gave maximum overview with zero clicking required.
The new system is a clusterfuck since you can no longer reliably reuse windows and have to keep opening new ones when you need them rather than have them appear automatically depending on context. The new system is a clusterfuck because it assumes all inventories are equal, and doesn't allow for any persistent customisation depending on inventory function and use. The new system is a clusterfuck because it doesn't handle things like POSes or large ship hangars in any kind of remotely sane way.
The new system drastically reduces the efficiency and ease with which inventory can be managed GÇö it fundamentally fails at the one thing it's supposed to be good at. It adds a couple of nice features and it solves one problem, but it does so at the cost of a fuckton of functionality that came for free with the old system and it has no way of replicating that functionality.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Shift-click does nothing GÇö why the Unified Inventory isn't ready for primetime. |
Sha Kharn
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
8
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Posted - 2012.05.22 16:58:00 -
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Please also roll this new system out for Dust 514.
Why should we suffer this crap alone.
Also just wait till you start moving stuff about in a pos. Its a nightmare i tell u |
Fabulousli Obvious
State War Academy
Caldari State
116
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Posted - 2012.05.22 16:58:00 -
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Maximille Biagge wrote:New inventory is awesome, it's: simple, good looking and full of great new features. Anybody who can't handle it is a bittervet with an inability to adapt to change.
adapt or die gentlemen.
I thought I called the exterminators yesterday. They must have missed a spot.
Last words:-á Either that wallpaper goes, or I do.
~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900 |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
1538
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Posted - 2012.05.22 16:59:00 -
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I won't be able to actually look at it until tonight (and that will be after I gleefully "interrupt" someone's wormhole operations), but this is my suggestion to everyone who actually cares about this:
Clearly CCP is intent upon keeping this new inventory system. I doubt we'll get them to revert it. Their attitude in the test server forum clearly indicated that they were dragging us along for this. So rather than demanding they just go backward, let's help them go forward.
Report every bug. Take screen shots of what you don't like, mark them up, and make intelligent suggestions. Since CCP won't have a meaningful dialog with us, let's have one ourselves and come up with a reasonable set of suggestions on how to make this better.
CCP: Changing control functionality from one thing to another (double-clicking a ship, for example) is BAD. It's HORRIBLE UI design. Never ever do it. Seriously.
It's time to put an end to CCP's war on piracy. Fight your own battles and stop asking CCP to do it for you. |
Lustralis
Tiny Holdings
2
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Posted - 2012.05.22 17:06:00 -
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Seriously, you'll get used to it. Then you will start to like it. Then you will stop wanting to go back to the old one. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
7018
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Posted - 2012.05.22 17:10:00 -
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Lustralis wrote:Seriously, you'll get used to it. No.
You get used to things that are consistent and which let you work without any fuss.
You do not get used to things that are inherently incapable of being consistent and which are inherently inefficient.
The new UI falls into the latter category, and it needs to be fixed so it works as an inventory management system.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Shift-click does nothing GÇö why the Unified Inventory isn't ready for primetime. |
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Josef Djugashvilis
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Posted - 2012.05.22 17:10:00 -
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Given how unhappy so many folk are with the new inventory system,
did CCP lay off the wrong staff last year?
You want fries with that? |
NuroCorp
Raven's Flight
Vanguard.
2
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Posted - 2012.05.22 17:10:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Alrione wrote:I dont see any problems. See sig. The short and sweet of it is: try setting up a consistent and permanent workspace that functions for all your inventory-related use cases. Quote:If anything Im quite happy about reducing the clusterfuck of windows in eve. What clusterfuck? I could do everything I ever needed to do using two stacks of permanent windows, one stack of non-permanent windows, and one stack of context sensitive windows. They took up minimal space and gave maximum overview with zero clicking required. The new system is a clusterfuck since you can no longer reliably reuse windows and have to keep opening new ones when you need them rather than have them appear automatically depending on context. The new system is a clusterfuck because it assumes all inventories are equal, and doesn't allow for any persistent customisation depending on inventory function and use. The new system is a clusterfuck because it doesn't handle things like POSes or large ship hangars in any kind of remotely sane way. The new system drastically reduces the efficiency and ease with which inventory can be managed GÇö it fundamentally fails at the one thing it's supposed to be good at. It adds a couple of nice features and it solves one problem, but it does so at the cost of a fuckton of functionality that came for free with the old system and it has no way of replicating that functionality.
This about sums up how I feel ^^
I'm surrounded by Trolls |
Diana Valenti
United Abominations.
9
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Posted - 2012.05.22 17:13:00 -
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New inventory is terrible IMO, please let us choose between old one and new ne. |
Mistah Ewedynao
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
15
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Posted - 2012.05.22 17:18:00 -
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Lustralis wrote:Seriously, you'll get used to it. Then you will start to like it. Then you will stop wanting to go back to the old one.
No I won't. I freakin LIKED the old one. |
Serge Bastana
GWA Corp
Unified Church of the Unobligated
603
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Posted - 2012.05.22 17:19:00 -
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I can see where they were trying to go but as many have pointed out, it's just not ready for the live server.
And who put the 'To Captains Quarters' on the right click menu for your ship, right above the 'Get Repair Quote'? And having your active ship actually be removed from the ships hangar instead of just being highlighted, terrible design.
WoW holds your hand until end game, and gives you a cookie whether you win or lose. EVE not only takes your cookie, but laughs at you for bringing one in the first place... |
adam smash
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
70
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Posted - 2012.05.22 17:20:00 -
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I wish the dev who came up with this system would go kill himself. |
Zora stein
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2012.05.22 17:23:00 -
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I really hate the new inventory system what a piece of **** ! Give us the option for the older one. |
Timbuck V
Confrerie de la Lumiere
Confrerie de la Lumiere Alliance
4
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Posted - 2012.05.22 17:23:00 -
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Sha Kharn wrote:
Also just wait till you start moving stuff about in a pos. Its a nightmare i tell u
I live in a Wh-space, so I approached a Pos, I opened my ship cargo bay to jetison the "Bm's of the day"
and then 
I just wanted my cargo open, not an option to open the pos hangar, strondiums bay, 3 corporate hangars, 2 ship maintenance, 2 labo, one "factory" ... even the "ammo cargo" of the defences ...
And that's a medium pos i got, can't imagine the mess in a large one .
Anyone saying " You'll get use to it "... must be out off is head or still applying the patch |
HybridOnslaught
Screaming War Eagles Incorporated
5
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Posted - 2012.05.22 17:23:00 -
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What Idiot taught it was a good idea to put the hanger into the asset search thingy 
/me Rages 
somone find that dev and Stamp on his Nut sack, |
So Phea
Lamellar
Vorpal's Edge
0
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Posted - 2012.05.22 17:29:00 -
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I just finished a mission and every time I went to salvage a wreck my client froze. The new inventory is NOT good !!.
Please, please, please give us back individual windows. |
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HybridOnslaught
Screaming War Eagles Incorporated
5
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Posted - 2012.05.22 17:32:00 -
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oh for the love of God why make it so my cargo bay opens in that stupid window???????? my rage is getting worse.. |
Vanguard Fletcher
Valeth Imperial Command
Hades.
2
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Posted - 2012.05.22 17:32:00 -
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It's A Bird... It's A Plane... No, it's all your cargo containers (including the gun batteries sitting 35km away from you) plus all those foolish GSCs you brought with you. SURPRISE! They get a neat little inventory index slot too. Just like the corporate hanger, and the silos, and the coupling array, and the assembly arrays, and nearly everything around you regardless if you can open them or not.
Btw, I noticed that my computer gets very unhappy when I Offline/Online POS modules. I guess the inventory index is going WTF! your messing with my containers! Thats not the proper way to do things here  |
Mistah Ewedynao
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
15
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Posted - 2012.05.22 17:32:00 -
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I have a medium POS with 5 research labs of different types and a corp hanger array.
I am CONSTANTLY moving stuff between them and finished products to my ships cargo. Had all my windows pinned in locations so I could view the as I needed them and seamlessly find and move stuff as needed.
Shift click my butt.
ROLL BACK! |
Belander
Capital Gents
Persona Non Gratis
4
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Posted - 2012.05.22 17:39:00 -
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Found another new feature this new bit of shiny UI gives us.
No more right click ship and open the hangar you want with a capital. Nope. Now its right click, open inventory, choose sub inventory (hangar/fuel bay etc ). Now on the surface, not a big deal. In crunch time when you want to have open what you want open straight away.. its a problem. dragging mods around mid fight for a refit or moving fuel around is not as easy as it was yesterday. That's a bad thing.
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Hactar 42
Valhollr
Cold Steel Alliance
3
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Posted - 2012.05.22 17:39:00 -
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the inventory changes are HORRIBLE - now i need hours to get simple things done and i am annoyed every second.
i will get used to it ?
no, i won't.
i have 30 ships and 10 containers and i am moving stuff and BPOs around all day.
HORRIBLE. |
Sycho Pathic
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
55
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Posted - 2012.05.22 17:41:00 -
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It's starting to look like another example of "Change for change's sake" and "Here's a solution for your non-existent problem".
Every single long-term software project I've been involved with succumbs to it. (Been at it for nearly 30 years)
There's nothing you can do. You can threaten software teams with pay-cuts, termination, dismemberment...whatever. Once the fever strikes, it has to run its course.
I've found the best way to deal with it is to have the responsible parties handle the resulting support calls. Nine times out of ten, the nonsense gets reverted back in record time.
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