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Psiri
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Posted - 2009.07.16 04:20:00 -
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I usually don't like the WoW-bashing fad in EVE, it's old and quite uncalled for, however I couldn't help but smirk a little when reading those posts.
WoW is a great game, although I feel that it's been in rapid decline since WOTLK was released. The PvE content is alot more entertaining as far as I'm concerned, EVE PvE is just too static and cold. To start up a new toon in EVE takes time, alot of time, so much I honestly wouldn't get into the game again if I lost my current chars. To do quality endgame content in WoW you only need like 2 months of intensive play, during which there's still a fair ammount of good content to enjoy.
Well, maybe if I think about it, I s'pose I could've started up a trader/hauler as it only takes a short while to get into a Freighter thanks to the 2x training speed, neural remaps and +4/5 implants. I doubt that most new players would be interested in that though, nor have enough game insight to do it properly or can afford the necessary implants to speed up the process.
In any case, many of us have played WoW, been there and done that so to speak. Everything gets old eventually and other than WoW there isn't much but EVE left IMO. Also, unlike WoW, EVE actually has PvP worth playing and the cold harsh nature of space is a refreshing change.
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Ze4K DK
Gallente Nova-Tek Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2009.07.16 05:12:00 -
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This thread delivers...
The OP got me laughing pretty hard with "So obviously after calling someone called healprincess fat for two hours and getting reported for telling someone that their mother was "up for rfc" (whatever the **** that is)"
then the "it's full of griefers... adult griefers" got me laughing just a little bit harder... and just when i thought that it wasn't gonna get any better, i discover the picture of the kid wearing a towel while holding the WoW box... Freaking priceless...
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Lana Hellfury
Minmatar Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2009.07.16 05:39:00 -
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Originally by: Sarpedeus I'm not really sure where people got the impression that I dislike WoW from???
I'm actually going to give it a shot this time, and like, get to level 80 and ****. And like, do raids or whatever wacky **** those crazy WoW kids do.
Well I just had it confirmed that you are in fact doing this.... I'm pretty sure if I told you how I felt about this I would cop another ban...
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.07.16 07:21:00 -
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Originally by: Barakkus
Originally by: Sarpedeus I'm not really sure where people got the impression that I dislike WoW from???
I'm actually going to give it a shot this time, and like, get to level 80 and ****. And like, do raids or whatever wacky **** those crazy WoW kids do.
Everytime I've tried it before, I ragequit @ level 15 or so.
So we'll see~~~
Good discussion ITT about WoW/EVE btw, n1.
They're just such completely different styles of games that it's difficult to compare, although I really feel that the PvP in WoW is lacking compared to EVE's, but I haven't done battlegrounds and stuff yet so vOv
I spend almost all my WoW time in battle grounds or arena. Battle grounds are awesome, but if you want a real challenge you'll do arena. Just don't bother jumping into arena matches unless you're geared (i.e. buy a full pvp set).
Indeed! WOW is quite unfriendly to lack of twink. In EVE you still have a chance to survive or even win if you are more experienced. But in WOW, the twink - especially in the BGs, is crucial. Wihtout it you get spanked.
In WOW, people with the time can run through the same dungeon over and over and eventually get the entire set of matching gear, from which a bonus comes. There are also "honor points" from the BGs - I had a hunter with thousands of them. You get twink gear from that too.
But if you lack the time, you suffer greatly, and this drives people off.
EVE's feature of being able to skill up while logged off was a big selling point for me, because at times months go by where all I do is log in to keep the training going.
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Xenophanes Colophon
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Posted - 2009.07.16 08:14:00 -
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What we need is a truly mmorpg elder scrolls. while it's still level based, it doesn't follow a strict class structure and you can attack villagers and such in elder scrolls games. if they kept the ability to attack anywhere at any time, if they kept the level based play, give xp for pvp kills you'd have a halfway decent mmorpg(obviously you'd have to make noobie farming unprofitable for higher level players) Could do something like Fable as a decent MMORPG aswell. Maybe even better. As far as what is already available... I personally think Vanguard, CoH/CoV, and a handful of other mmorpgs are far better than WoW. Even with a large pve grind to them.
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Exitar Stormscion
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Posted - 2009.07.16 08:24:00 -
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http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=104430728&postId=101060114147&sid=1#93
my post ex wow player as well :) having fun in eve sorry if it is boring for someone to read all the wow stuff that i spited at there face :)
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Sarpedeus
Paragon Productions
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Posted - 2009.07.16 10:34:00 -
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpMdxCVuGR0
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Xyriach
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Posted - 2009.07.16 11:17:00 -
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Edited by: Xyriach on 16/07/2009 11:17:42
Originally by: Herzog WolfhammerIndeed! WOW is quite unfriendly to lack of twink. In EVE you still have a chance to survive or even win if you are more experienced. But in WOW, the twink - especially in the BGs, is crucial. Wihtout it you get spanked.
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Not entirely true, a moron with great gear will get owned consistently by a labrador in quest greens.
If you have half a clue about what you're doing and are not trying to let your gear do all the work you can be top of the KB, HK and damage tables without fail.
Letting your hardware do the work your wetware should be doing = fail, no matter what game you're playing.
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Barakkus
Caelestis Iudicium
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Posted - 2009.07.16 12:21:00 -
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Originally by: Xyriach Edited by: Xyriach on 16/07/2009 11:17:42
Originally by: Herzog WolfhammerIndeed! WOW is quite unfriendly to lack of twink. In EVE you still have a chance to survive or even win if you are more experienced. But in WOW, the twink - especially in the BGs, is crucial. Wihtout it you get spanked.
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Not entirely true, a moron with great gear will get owned consistently by a labrador in quest greens.
If you have half a clue about what you're doing and are not trying to let your gear do all the work you can be top of the KB, HK and damage tables without fail.
Letting your hardware do the work your wetware should be doing = fail, no matter what game you're playing.
This is pretty much true. You don't have to twink to be successful, but you will need pvp gear for pvping, pve gear will get you stomped into the ground pretty quickly. Next patch they're making resilience actually mitigate all damage instead of just crits.
You don't have to necessarily "twink" to get the gear, you can buy all the blue player made pvp gear, and getting honor for the hateful set at 80 is a breeze, you can get the entire set within 3 weeks of casually farming bgs for honor.
You will have to research what the best specs are for whatever you play, and what enchants/gems you need etc, much like figuring out the right fits in EVE. As long as you are smart about it and tailor it to your playstyle you'll do well...just don't expect to faceroll and be successful.
I was consistently in the top 3 for almost every bg I would do without the hateful set, and now it's just easier for me now that I'm all deadly/furious ;) (and it's fun as hell melting everyone's face repeatedly )
If you end up rolling on Onyxia let me know and I'll toss you some gold, since I have really nothing to spend it on at the moment. http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Onyxia&n=Redharc
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Xyriach
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Posted - 2009.07.16 12:32:00 -
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I'd say in some ways EVE is easier than WoW, once you've got past the initial learning curve and got your head around the fact that the game is limitlessly huge, it seems to me to be a case of upgrading when you can and enjoying the experience.
WoW is a constant farm of stats, a very pretty maths engine that only works as a game if you keep trying to feed it more numbers. Kill [Insert Mob or Player] X number of times to achieve Y result which if done frequently enough awards you Z item.
EVE, doesn't need that. Sure there are DPS, HP and other such stats, but those figures don't make the experience, having them maxed out and having the biggest ship isn't what the game is geared towards. It's geared towards that wonderful experience of hoping the guy in the battlecruiser isn't interested in you and he'll leave you alone while you salvage the ....oh crap, he's just locked on....
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Duncan Senturas
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Posted - 2009.07.16 12:33:00 -
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Originally by: Xenophanes Colophon What we need is a truly mmorpg elder scrolls. while it's still level based, it doesn't follow a strict class structure and you can attack villagers and such in elder scrolls games. if they kept the ability to attack anywhere at any time, if they kept the level based play, give xp for pvp kills you'd have a halfway decent mmorpg(obviously you'd have to make noobie farming unprofitable for higher level players) Could do something like Fable as a decent MMORPG aswell. Maybe even better. As far as what is already available... I personally think Vanguard, CoH/CoV, and a handful of other mmorpgs are far better than WoW. Even with a large pve grind to them.
there was and still is a game that follows an open end leveling system where there isn't any classes and you can make the character the way you want to. the graphics blow compared to other stuff but it was the very first mmo i started on...Asheron's Call
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Barakkus
Caelestis Iudicium
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Posted - 2009.07.16 12:37:00 -
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The new starwars mmo coming out looks rather promising.
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Kayna Eelai
Gallente Paxton Industries Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2009.07.16 12:56:00 -
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Originally by: Barakkus The new starwars mmo coming out looks rather promising.
TBH i am a bit dissapointed by the fact that it seems to be class based too, but just a few (what's it, 5 each side?) classes total
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Anyura
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Posted - 2009.07.16 13:04:00 -
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I cancelled my Warcraft account about 2 weeks ago - best decision I ever made. I picked up a cheap copy of Guild Wars so that if I do get a hard on for swords and sorcery PvP, at least it will be reasonably balanced and decent.
Whenever I think of a WoW fanboy coming on here, I think of the Mos Eisley cantina scene in Star Wars. You have a bar wonderfully full of freaks, screw-ups and low-lifes and then this boy band reject comes waltzing in thinking he knows the score.
Quote: "He doesn't like you."
"I'm sorry."
"I don't like you either...."
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Barakkus
Caelestis Iudicium
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Posted - 2009.07.16 14:31:00 -
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Originally by: Anyura I cancelled my Warcraft account about 2 weeks ago - best decision I ever made. I picked up a cheap copy of Guild Wars so that if I do get a hard on for swords and sorcery PvP, at least it will be reasonably balanced and decent.
Whenever I think of a WoW fanboy coming on here, I think of the Mos Eisley cantina scene in Star Wars. You have a bar wonderfully full of freaks, screw-ups and low-lifes and then this boy band reject comes waltzing in thinking he knows the score.
Quote: "He doesn't like you."
"I'm sorry."
"I don't like you either...."
Aion (makers of guildwars) looks pretty good, thinking about checking that out. I just hope it's not as pitiful as Perfect World (another Korean mmo).
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Susung
Alt Anti-defamation League
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Posted - 2009.07.17 00:07:00 -
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This thread contains a serious lack of trolling, and actual discussion. Not to mention nobody has mentioned how wonderfull ANY of the Lana's are. How did this crap get into C&P. If nobody dies or nobody cries it belongs somewhere else
O ya I played wow for like 2 hours at a friends request once. Lets just say he won't ask me to do that again
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Awesome Possum
Insert Obscure Latin Name
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Posted - 2009.07.17 00:10:00 -
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Originally by: Herzog Wolfhammer Indeed! WOW is quite unfriendly to lack of twink. In EVE you still have a chance to survive or even win if you are more experienced. But in WOW, the twink - especially in the BGs, is crucial. Wihtout it you get spanked.
In WOW, people with the time can run through the same dungeon over and over and eventually get the entire set of matching gear, from which a bonus comes. There are also "honor points" from the BGs - I had a hunter with thousands of them. You get twink gear from that too.
But if you lack the time, you suffer greatly, and this drives people off.
EVE's feature of being able to skill up while logged off was a big selling point for me, because at times months go by where all I do is log in to keep the training going.
^^^Someone who doesn't understand twinking. ♥
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Mercrom
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Posted - 2009.07.17 01:14:00 -
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I've recently started playing EVE, and it really seems superior to WoW.
The sad thing though is that many here are like those the OP quotes. The real strengths of WoW are hardcore raiding and small scale elite PvP in arenas, if you want something else it's probably not for you.
On the other hand, the real strengths of EVE are large scale PvP in fighting and economy, and the freedom that enables it. This is why I lose hope in EVE when I read about people who do nothing but solo grind level 4 missions, and on top of that complain about the PvP elements of EVE that discomfort them. Why aren't they playing WoW? Or any other PvE focused MMO for that matter? Grinding all 10 classes to max level can't be more boring than doing the same few missions over and over again.
I started playing EVE because of intelligent and organized PvP. If EVE were to start emphasizing more on grindy casual PvE, I'd quit in a heartbeat and continue healing in actually challanging PvE content in WoW.
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Awesome Possum
Insert Obscure Latin Name
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Posted - 2009.07.17 01:23:00 -
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Originally by: Mercrom and continue healing in actually challanging PvE content in WoW.
Confirming that raid healing was the only challenging part of PVE in WOW.
Juggling hot rotations on 3-4 toons > "stabby stabby stabby stabby stabby AGGRO! /vanish /repeat" ♥
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El Smol
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Posted - 2009.07.17 01:31:00 -
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Originally by: Mercrom This is why I lose hope in EVE when I read about people who do nothing but solo grind level 4 missions, and on top of that complain about the PvP elements of EVE that discomfort them. Why aren't they playing WoW? Or any other PvE focused MMO for that matter? Grinding all 10 classes to max level can't be more boring than doing the same few missions over and over again.
Because running missions on hi-sec is the best "isk vs risk" method of getting quick cash (well, unless you're into scamming). And yes, I played WoW for about 4 years. Running L4s is far more enjoyable than leveling yet another alt (because you have nothing to do when you're not raiding).
Originally by: Mercrom On the other hand, the real strengths of EVE are large scale PvP in fighting and economy, and the freedom that enables it.
You said it yourself. Freedom. If someone wants to run L4s till 2015 who're you to tell him not to?
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Sarpedeus
Paragon Productions
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Posted - 2009.07.17 02:40:00 -
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lmao just checked my facebook n1 bai
Bai ZongTong > but 90% of the corp kinda went missins so :/ Lana Torrin > yeah i was gona ask about that Lana Torrin > i havent seen anyone for ages! Bai ZongTong > nexus Bai ZongTong > went Bai ZongTong > to Bai ZongTong > play Bai ZongTong > wow Lana Torrin > i always knew he was gay....
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Sarpedeus
Paragon Productions
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Posted - 2009.07.17 02:41:00 -
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bai literally owns on facebook
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The Mag
Gallente Wondering Derelicts
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Posted - 2009.07.17 03:57:00 -
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you realise the first fatal flaw of EVE. absolutely no flying control of your ship! thats right,all you do is eighter set the autopilot or doubleclick in space. you cannot turn your ship,rotate it, or make complex flying meuveours(ala star wars type space fighting) all you do is click the autopilot or you doubleclick into space,and you ship automatically goes there with full thrust
Actually, this is a ligit complaint. It would be nice to be able to control the ships with a joystick movements instead of clicking the mouse.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.07.17 04:27:00 -
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Originally by: The Mag you realise the first fatal flaw of EVE. absolutely no flying control of your ship! thats right,all you do is eighter set the autopilot or doubleclick in space. you cannot turn your ship,rotate it, or make complex flying meuveours(ala star wars type space fighting) all you do is click the autopilot or you doubleclick into space,and you ship automatically goes there with full thrust
Actually, this is a ligit complaint. It would be nice to be able to control the ships with a joystick movements instead of clicking the mouse.
A game where you steer your ship consistently, as with a joystick is called "twitch" gaming. Sadly it's very hard to keep solid update loops between client and server in an MMO that is forgiving for twitch gaming. The data structure of EVE, unlike WOW, does not seem to be friendly to it either. There is enough lag without it. Sad though because "twitch" fighter craft would rock in this game.
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Sanitarium Slave
Minmatar Guiding Hand Social Club Dystopia Alliance
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Posted - 2009.07.17 05:07:00 -
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this thread needs more stereotypes
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Lana Hellfury
Minmatar Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2009.07.17 05:27:00 -
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Originally by: Sanitarium Slave this thread needs more stereotypes
Girls cant PvP!
wait.....
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Sarpedeus
Paragon Productions
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Posted - 2009.07.17 09:35:00 -
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Originally by: Lana Hellfury
Originally by: Sanitarium Slave this thread needs more stereotypes
Girls cant PvP!
wait.....
well..
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CCP Applebabe
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Posted - 2009.07.17 09:53:00 -
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Moved to " OOPE ".
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LordSwift
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.07.17 10:47:00 -
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Originally by: Lana Hellfury
Originally by: Sanitarium Slave this thread needs more stereotypes
Girls cant PvP!
wait.....
Now look what you have done. Applebabe has moved this thread now. I have only been tempted with wow once but i cancelled downloading the client right away. Currently i am enjoying AOC and eve at the moment. Join the brown Coats today!!! |
ceaon
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.07.17 10:51:00 -
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Originally by: The PitBoss CCP PLEASE forgive me for posting a picture to the forums BUT I Just wanted to illustrate WHY I DON'T PLAY WoW .... its because:
I COULD NEVER LOOK THIS GOOD IN A TOWEL.
http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs007.snc1/2843_70313542171_673652171_2124043_1635601_n.jpg
Image changed to URL. Eye Bleach is in Aisle 4. Zymurgist
hahahahahahahahahahha that is hilarious
Please resize your signature to the maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist
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