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Sarpedeus
Paragon Productions
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Posted - 2009.07.12 21:52:00 -
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As some of you may or may not know, I've actually been playing WoW for a bit to chill off from EVE and actually give the game a chance for once.
So obviously after calling someone called healprincess fat for two hours and getting reported for telling someone that their mother was "up for rfc" (whatever the **** that is), I decided to check the official forums to see what they thought of EVE.
It was awesome.
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EVE is a boring old space game where you can't even leave your boring ****pit with boring long mining sessions and boring docking procedures.
With boring spread sheets PvP like fights.
With boring sessions and boring space screens with NO physics what ever.
In fact it is SO boring they let the players gain resources without even being bored logging in.
This gives an eternal advantage of course, because you will never trap older players because they progress even when being logged out.
Boring game for boring people who think they should play a game where your avatar is nothing but a boring poststamp in the upper left corner.
Am I being soo severe ?
No I am being rather nice even. :))))
Oh wait they play their game all on one server. I am sure f they would include such trivial boring things like trees, houses, a landscape and some decent planet graphics with at least some real physical behaviour, their game would come down as a brick.
Playing in a vacuum universe with no gravity laws at all, is like playing with emptiness all around you. Sums it up quite nicely.
Boring as hell.
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EVE is the worst MMO every made in my opinion. Common example of EVE gameplay:
Spend 10 hours figuring out the controls
Start up your crappy ship
Get a few missions you don't understand
Get told by the tutorial to mine instead of do your missions
Spend 10 hours mining to get money
Get killed by space pirates
Lose all your cargo and ship
Do it over again
Get a level up and think ''woohoo, I can kill those mean pirates now''
Find out that levelling up takes days to actually do.
Get bored and see what the PvP is like
Mercilessly attack some poor sod mining
Get blown up by space police who come from nowhere
Fly your pod which goes at 1 mph to the space station for a new ship
Get killed by the space station because it now sees you as hostile
Get cloned and put in a new ship
Leave the space station
Get shot by space police
*rabbles on for 20 years*
And that's the entire EVE gameplay in a nutshell.
Post the WoWest quotes bout EVE u got:
http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fforums.wow-europe.com%2F+%22eve+online%22
Time to level my shaman some more, nexus out~~~
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Amber Saint
Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2009.07.12 21:55:00 -
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Edited by: Amber Saint on 12/07/2009 21:56:19
Why didn't you post the OP, its probably the best one
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Needing a break from wow i tried a free trial of EVE Online and i was so mad after just 2 days that i didnt even finsh the damn trial.
It's basically a space mmog where you fly startrek like ships and npc hunt, trade, mine or mission run or build your own empires and stuff. Sounds fine and like a standard game right? Wrong..it's full of griefers....adult griefers.
I went looking for better asteroids in a slightly lower security system than i started in and within 5 seconds of me mining, pirate players warped in, killed me....and took my ore. FFS i'm just a newb in a crappy ship what was the point of that ****?
So I appear back in the station with a kill message and in the basic ship. So I fit some guns and go back this time without mining lasers so i can fight, i get to the system and ask them why they are killing newbies. They told me they didnt know and invited me to thier gang so i could warp to them for my stuff back.
I did then we started talking about the game, they were both in their late 20's and they asked my age. Before i even finished typing they locked me and killed my ship AGAIN. I escaped in my pod and warped from moon to moon trying to loose them but they kept chasing me trying to kill my pod too.
I logged off, **** it and im not going back ever. Worst thing is the developers and GM's ENCOURAGE griefing and say its part of the game!!!!!!????? People can kill and steal from you and they get a pat on the back from GM's? WTF!!
I'm all for concentual pvp but random killings and constant griefing is not fun.
Dont EVER play EVE Online, it's a griefers game far beyond any reasonable limit.
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Sarpedeus
Paragon Productions
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Posted - 2009.07.12 21:57:00 -
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Edited by: Sarpedeus on 12/07/2009 21:57:37
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eve online is boring. tried it once.. not that i played it for a long time.. but.. spaceships and stuff? naah. i want elves and magic :3
that's me irl
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Sarpedeus
Paragon Productions
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Posted - 2009.07.12 22:05:00 -
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heres my 2 cents about EVE:
being really bored of wow this spetember,i thought i would try some other game.EVE was there with its free download+trial which really got me going
the story and background was amazing and i thought i would have lots of fun with this game.
oh how wrong i was!
i first make a ship and have to go through 3 hours of mind numbing tutorials which make almost no sense or explain things like im a baby
(you see that glowing icon on you left which has a map icon? that is your map!oh no really? i thought it was my ships toilet exaust port)-baby
(when you finish talking with an agent use you adress book to open the space station that is in the system that you bookmarked to when you talked to the agnet and you clicked his mission objectives! whait what?! i have to use which thing?)-no sense
when you finnaly do go out and try stuff for the first time,you realise the first fatal flaw of EVE.
absolutely no flying control of your ship!
thats right,all you do is eighter set the autopilot or doubleclick in space.
you cannot turn your ship,rotate it, or make complex flying meuveours(ala star wars type space fighting)
all you do is click the autopilot or you doubleclick into space,and you ship automatically goes there with full thrust(making the point of speed pointless since youre always going with maximum thrust)
PVP.is a complete joke from a newbs standpoint.altho i belive its more complex when you get those battleships and such. all i do is click my target,lock on to it,and click my turret buttons.meanwhile i try to have it whitin optimal range.
thats it,it doesnt change at all.the winner is the guy who had better shields/armour or weapons.there is no dodging the hits,since youre locked on and the only modifier if you hit/get hit is the range and perhaps some modules you can install.
the skills system is both a blessing and a curse.the blessing is obvious,you can learn skills while logged of which is very nice.but the real deal is when you realise the first few skills only take 1-2 hours to learn.while the advanced ones take up to a day or more.so whats the point of sleeping over it when i wake up i still has 7 hours to go.LAME!
the skills themselves really dont give you much stuff eighter.most give you some kind of uselss buff like +5% ship agility which is dumb.but most are there because you need them to upgrade you ship.for instance you cannot put shields on without knowledge about electronics.so basically its just prolonguing your playtime so you can play more while not really getting much out of it.
travel time is rediculus.when i check the EVE trade system and buy some new skill or module.i have to jump 20 times to the new system.in this time i can simply go away and go watch TV,because all the ship is doing is taking millions of years to jump from here to there.
the world is pretty bleak.there are perhaps 1000-10000 different solar systems AND THEY ALL LOOK THE SAME! each system has a sun,some planets,moons and asteroid systems.
there are no black holes,no spacial anomalies,no supernovas,the first place looks like the other with the exception of the name,the security rating and the people who run it
apart from mining,fighting and researching/manufactoring there isnt much you can do.did i say isnt much? i meant YOU CAN DO ANYTHING ELSE! all the time youre in your little capsule inside you ship.you cant leave the ship and go explore space stations.
there is also the lag.which by only a small margin can make your game unplayable.unlike wow where your instants become 3 second cats.in EVE while some pirates arrive the game starts to lag and you cant run away because of it(which mans your dead)
the final thing is some of the vital game mechanics.some things made so that EVE can have more to do like escrow missions,bounties and currier mission and such are overly complex and you can barely understand whats going on,who ordered the mission,where it starts,who can take it....
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Sarpedeus
Paragon Productions
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Posted - 2009.07.12 22:05:00 -
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literally the best post ever made
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Awesome Possum
Insert Obscure Latin Name
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Posted - 2009.07.12 22:25:00 -
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Edited by: Awesome Possum on 12/07/2009 22:25:51
Taking a break from EVE, I tried the WOW trial. Wandering around in my level 1 night elf prostitute, I wandered into Stranglethorn Vale to skill up my flower picking and handjob skills. I was immediately killed by a lvl 900 big black dildo. Switching out my vaseline and herb pouch for uber lvl 1 knives, I went back there to kill that effer. He immediately jumped me and killed me, then proceeded to corpse camp me for 5 hours until I logged out and emorage quit the trial.
**** WOW!
edit: obligatory
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/208-Eve-Online
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RedSplat
Heretic Army
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Posted - 2009.07.13 01:00:00 -
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Originally by: Amber Saint
Edited by: Amber Saint on 12/07/2009 21:56:19
Why didn't you post the OP, its probably the best one
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Needing a break from wow i tried a free trial of EVE Online and i was so mad after just 2 days that i didnt even finsh the damn trial.
It's basically a space mmog where you fly startrek like ships and npc hunt, trade, mine or mission run or build your own empires and stuff. Sounds fine and like a standard game right? Wrong..it's full of griefers....adult griefers.
I went looking for better asteroids in a slightly lower security system than i started in and within 5 seconds of me mining, pirate players warped in, killed me....and took my ore. FFS i'm just a newb in a crappy ship what was the point of that ****?
So I appear back in the station with a kill message and in the basic ship. So I fit some guns and go back this time without mining lasers so i can fight, i get to the system and ask them why they are killing newbies. They told me they didnt know and invited me to thier gang so i could warp to them for my stuff back.
I did then we started talking about the game, they were both in their late 20's and they asked my age. Before i even finished typing they locked me and killed my ship AGAIN. I escaped in my pod and warped from moon to moon trying to loose them but they kept chasing me trying to kill my pod too.
I logged off, **** it and im not going back ever. Worst thing is the developers and GM's ENCOURAGE griefing and say its part of the game!!!!!!????? People can kill and steal from you and they get a pat on the back from GM's? WTF!!
I'm all for concentual pvp but random killings and constant griefing is not fun.
Dont EVER play EVE Online, it's a griefers game far beyond any reasonable limit.
I bet he would LOVE Walking in Stations.
Originally by: CCP Mitnal
I don't sleep.
I am always here.
Watching.
Waiting.
Originally by: CCP Mitnal
it does get progressively longer.
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Hitokiri Haven
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Posted - 2009.07.13 01:18:00 -
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Sigh, there are qqer's in every game and there are those who won't try something new. Why care so much? Eve and wow have differences, to say one is better then the other is stupid. You have wow which has different classes that are unique. In eve, however, you can cross train and eventually (if you played long enough  ) you'll be able to fly anything and everything. In eve it encourages a player controlled environment where as wow allows the control to be more in the hands of the developer. who the **** cares what other people think, it only matters what you think.
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Lana Hellfury
Minmatar
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2009.07.13 01:29:00 -
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People play game radically different from what they enjoy and don't like it.. News at 11.
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Junko Togawa
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.07.13 02:54:00 -
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This thread is full of lulz. Moar, plz. 
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Zaphod Beeblebrox42
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Posted - 2009.07.13 03:22:00 -
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"Hi, I tried EvE and it was hard so I gave up and posted a rant about it. Also, I didn't bother to learn anything about EvE and what "sandbox" meant so I went to places that got me killed an then decided to rant about that, too. OMG, I trained for thirty seconds, went back out, and these 1,2,3,4 year old players were still able to kill me! WTF is up with that? I'm going to go rant more. Also, EvE is hard."
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FireT
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Posted - 2009.07.13 03:58:00 -
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Old WoW hardcore player here from Vanilla and BC WoW. Overall grinding into an experience bar was directly proportional to my lack of activities, hygiene and friends. 
(Ignore the fact that my fiancee at the time was so horrible that I started playing WoW)
Eve's ability to give me the skill training while enjoying a sunny day biking, a weekend with my family and friends will make me never ever leave Eve.
Yeah I will keep getting blown up when going into low sec, but unlike WoW they can't camp my corpse till I log.
And having the ability to cross train into all 4 factions and their styles = UBERFUN. Nothing makes a game more enjoyable than having auto skill training and the ability to switch ships / fighting styles. 
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Toxif
Minmatar
The Hive Syndicate
Vanguard.
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Posted - 2009.07.13 04:10:00 -
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I'm a four year WoW vet, and I played DAoC for three years before that.
Imo, the reason EVE is hard to adjust to skill-wise is because 'leveling' is not linear, and that fact makes you forget that skilling up to "endgame" (lol) in EVE probably takes just as long as it would in WoW, just with less effort.
Let's see... I've been playing this toon (my final EVE toon, the toon I abandoned WoW for) for two months, and, after aimlessly bringing different, unrelated skills to lvl 3/4, I've finally decided on an immediate goal: I want to fly the tubeworm (Typhoon). I'm one day away from Minnie Cruisers 4; next, I'll inject Minnie BS, train up all the recommended certificate skills for the ship, also train up drone skills, and then finally train BS to 3. This'll probably occupy the next month, probably less.
Three months to fly the 'standard' t1 PvP ship (you know what I mean), and that's with me logging on sporadically because of RL. If I were to roll a new toon in WoW and only devote as much time as I can give EVE right now, it would probably take me four or five months to hit 80, run instances for gear and rep, and finally be geared enough to run Naxx - then another month before I could hope to join a chill Ulduar PuG.
My 0.02 ISK.
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Yunii
Gallente
Black Serpent Technologies
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Posted - 2009.07.13 04:50:00 -
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Edited by: Yunii on 13/07/2009 04:51:01
Originally by: Awesome Possumedit: obligatory
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/208-Eve-Online
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best review EvEr
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Originally by: CCP Arkanon
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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2009.07.13 04:51:00 -
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I'm an old-time WoW player - right from the first month of retail through Burning Crusade, I spent up to five hours a night healing people through raids. Or tanking for raids. But for healing and tanking I had to level up two characters, do every quest twice, and run instances twice to collect healing gear for my holy priest, then tanking gear for my warrior.
Then I wanted to try something different, so I rolled a druid. So now I have three characters to level up and gear up and quest up and grind rep for...
I tried out EVE because it seemed like it would be a successor to Elite, and I was quite impressed. Even better, I found that I could be a "healer" (ie: Logistics pilot), "tank" (ie: fly a drake for L4 missions), and I could even DPS with the same character (eg: fly a vexor with railguns and sentry drones). No more levelling up three characters at once just to stay in the guild! And any time I wanted to I could just switch roles!
These days I get back into WoW, start spamming "Holy priest LFG Halls of Lightning", but noone's interested unless I'm running heroics, my guild are busy raiding end-game content which my highest level character is too low to even get into, and noone's free to help me level. I don't have the gold to switch talent spec yet, so I log off and go mine a few more missions full of asteroids while making dinner. Then as my EVE friends log on we can just throw a fleet together and smash up some NPCs in mission space for a bit, then switch to our frigates and get ourselves blown up in lowsec for the fun of it.
I love EVE.
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Toxif
Minmatar
The Hive Syndicate
Vanguard.
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Posted - 2009.07.13 05:12:00 -
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Originally by: Mara Rinn
I'm an old-time WoW player - right from the first month of retail through Burning Crusade, I spent up to five hours a night healing people through raids. Or tanking for raids. But for healing and tanking I had to level up two characters, do every quest twice, and run instances twice to collect healing gear for my holy priest, then tanking gear for my warrior.
Then I wanted to try something different, so I rolled a druid. So now I have three characters to level up and gear up and quest up and grind rep for...
I tried out EVE because it seemed like it would be a successor to Elite, and I was quite impressed. Even better, I found that I could be a "healer" (ie: Logistics pilot), "tank" (ie: fly a drake for L4 missions), and I could even DPS with the same character (eg: fly a vexor with railguns and sentry drones). No more levelling up three characters at once just to stay in the guild! And any time I wanted to I could just switch roles!
These days I get back into WoW, start spamming "Holy priest LFG Halls of Lightning", but noone's interested unless I'm running heroics, my guild are busy raiding end-game content which my highest level character is too low to even get into, and noone's free to help me level. I don't have the gold to switch talent spec yet, so I log off and go mine a few more missions full of asteroids while making dinner. Then as my EVE friends log on we can just throw a fleet together and smash up some NPCs in mission space for a bit, then switch to our frigates and get ourselves blown up in lowsec for the fun of it.
I love EVE.
I don't know why, maybe I'm just super stoned; that post made me crack up and cry at the same time. Brilliant.
Thank you.
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Herty
The Sexy Carebear Boredom Convention
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Posted - 2009.07.13 05:25:00 -
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I really want to play wow now. Eve is full of mean pirates and griefers.
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Lana Hellfury
Minmatar
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2009.07.13 05:26:00 -
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Originally by: Herty
I really want to play wow now. Eve is full of mean pirates and griefers.
Can I haz your stuff?
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Herty
The Sexy Carebear Boredom Convention
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Posted - 2009.07.13 05:45:00 -
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Originally by: Lana Hellfury
Originally by: Herty
I really want to play wow now. Eve is full of mean pirates and griefers.
Can I haz your stuff?
Contracting you my stuff now.
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Herty
The Sexy Carebear Boredom Convention
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Posted - 2009.07.13 05:45:00 -
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Edited by: Herty on 13/07/2009 05:45:49
double post.......
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gheyzer
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Posted - 2009.07.13 06:14:00 -
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Originally by: RedSplat
Originally by: Amber Saint
Edited by: Amber Saint on 12/07/2009 21:56:19
Why didn't you post the OP, its probably the best one
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Needing a break from wow i tried a free trial of EVE Online and i was so mad after just 2 days that i didnt even finsh the damn trial.
It's basically a space mmog where you fly startrek like ships and npc hunt, trade, mine or mission run or build your own empires and stuff. Sounds fine and like a standard game right? Wrong..it's full of griefers....adult griefers.
I went looking for better asteroids in a slightly lower security system than i started in and within 5 seconds of me mining, pirate players warped in, killed me....and took my ore. FFS i'm just a newb in a crappy ship what was the point of that ****?
So I appear back in the station with a kill message and in the basic ship. So I fit some guns and go back this time without mining lasers so i can fight, i get to the system and ask them why they are killing newbies. They told me they didnt know and invited me to thier gang so i could warp to them for my stuff back.
I did then we started talking about the game, they were both in their late 20's and they asked my age. Before i even finished typing they locked me and killed my ship AGAIN. I escaped in my pod and warped from moon to moon trying to loose them but they kept chasing me trying to kill my pod too.
I logged off, **** it and im not going back ever. Worst thing is the developers and GM's ENCOURAGE griefing and say its part of the game!!!!!!????? People can kill and steal from you and they get a pat on the back from GM's? WTF!!
I'm all for concentual pvp but random killings and constant griefing is not fun.
Dont EVER play EVE Online, it's a griefers game far beyond any reasonable limit.
I bet he would LOVE Walking in Stations.
I read that with an "n" not an "l" and I bet he would
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Rock urSocksoff
Incura
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Posted - 2009.07.13 06:44:00 -
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There are people who find Eve too harsh? As someone who read C&P I find this hard to believe!
Originally by: Saluss
Its a bad world in EvE and everyone wants your Retail shuttle.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente
Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.07.13 07:04:00 -
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We should all be happy to have choices brought to us by the much maligned (incorrectly) free market, and not waste time on being bitter.
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Xenophanes Colophon
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Posted - 2009.07.13 07:07:00 -
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Reading this makes me laugh. It's always funny to see what people that enjoy a drastically different type of MMO have to say about Eve. Personally, I love Eve. This is the first MMO I have actually played for more than a month. I tried WoW, hated it. I actually tried WoW after each expansion just to see if I might enjoy it "now". I didn't. Not my type of MMO. I tried Vanguard, liked it better than Eve, but not enough to keep playing it. I went back to RTS. I love RTS(real rts, not that DotA stuff). Then one day my little brother was in town and showed me Eve. I was hooked. I'm now 4 months in and actually think to turn Eve on before RoL, WC3, SC, or DoW2. The point is that the WoW players that just greatly contributed to my lols are obviously not Eve people. They should stick to their level grinding on npcs. There's a reason that Eve skill training is time based. It's so that we can PvP without having to worry about whether or not we need to go grind some npc/ camp a drop. Most grinding we might need to do is for standing to get into FW or to use a jump clone. Eve has a steep learning curve. If you aren't willing to put the time and effort in to learning the game you shouldn't comment about it being boring. Now excuse me while I go grind for my jumpclone(god I hate mission grinding).
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zaxin diadrin
Minmatar
Esquires Of Questionable Intention
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Posted - 2009.07.13 07:16:00 -
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I went back to WoW for something to kill time in over the summer, I was planning on Pugging my way through dungeons.
However, after sitting through hours of random rude comments etc (although I did meet some nice people too), I kept thinking "damn, if this was EvE I would blow them up as soon as they came out of the station".
I knew then I was playing the wrong mmo.
I liked wow, I played it from release to Wotlk, taking breaks here and there to play other games, but it is just not for me any more.
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Therran Promitz
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.07.13 07:49:00 -
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I've played WoW for two years now, and EVE for about one. I love both, and it's hard to compare the two.
So I apologize on behalf of all WoW players who aren't idiots, those people who said those things about EVE are the ones who sit in the corner wearing the special hat.
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Zaphod Beeblebrox42
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Posted - 2009.07.13 09:50:00 -
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Originally by: Therran Promitz
I've played WoW for two years now, and EVE for about one. I love both, and it's hard to compare the two.
So I apologize on behalf of all WoW players who aren't idiots, those people who said those things about EVE are the ones who sit in the corner wearing the special hat.
the special hat
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Hephaesteus
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.07.13 10:09:00 -
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Wow, I've missed the pvp in Eve's forums.
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Dracoknight
Griefers Anonymous
Reality Unwoven
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Posted - 2009.07.13 10:11:00 -
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This thread made me ROFL...twice!
also wow is for kids who cant handle a real gaming community
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Evalyn Gerbil
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Posted - 2009.07.13 10:34:00 -
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I know sod-all about WoW. It doesn't interest me. Why? Because I cant fly a spaceship in it. I expect if I had wanted to swing a sword around and shoot spells from my fingertips I would have not enjoyed Eve much. All the rest is just details.
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Ta'jek
Angels Of Death EVE
Free Worlds Alliance
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Posted - 2009.07.13 14:56:00 -
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Quote:
Q u o t e:
I tried EVE once, everything i so #%*@ed up
after like 15 mins i accidently blew my own ship up for some #%*@ing reason!
*logs out and unintstalls*
EVE Online requires an IQ of at least 50 to play. Not surprised you logged out.
I lol'd when I read this quote...
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Flossy Sock
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Posted - 2009.07.13 15:20:00 -
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Thing is Vanilla Wow really was a good game. Big battles in Hillsbrad, going back and forth between SS and TM was alot of fun. Even the High Warlord grind was semi-fun (even if it was 3 months of 18 hours a day playing..."shudders") before X-realm bg's,etc and it actually felt like the grinds meant something(not much, but something).
Wow now is truely awful, the way the game has been changed is quite sad, epixx for everyone and absolutely meaningless grinds (achievement points anyone ^^).
I started playing Eve just over a month ago and I love the idea of it almost being a real world with real consequences where anything is possible. It really isn't surprising that people get put off though. If I wasn't truely bored after 4+ years of playing Wow and felt Eve was the only other game on the market which might satisfy me, i'd have probably given up like so many others.
If you come to Eve from Wow it is a truely gigantic change of pace, most people just can't handle it.
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Drunk Driver
Gallente
Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.07.13 15:35:00 -
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WoW spelled backwards is MoM.
Therefore...
WoW players want to have sex with their Moms!
Disgusting....
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Traidor Disloyal
Private Nuisance
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Posted - 2009.07.13 15:43:00 -
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Why I like Eve (been playing since August 2006) and will never go back to WoW (played from January 2005 to August 2006):
I like being able to kill corpmates who irritate me.
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Tiny Tove
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Posted - 2009.07.13 15:45:00 -
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Originally by: Drunk Driver
WoW spelled backwards is MoM.
Therefore...
WoW players want to have sex with their Moms!
Disgusting....
I want to have sex with their moms too. It's really not that bad.
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Flossy Sock
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Posted - 2009.07.13 15:50:00 -
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Originally by: Drunk Driver
WoW spelled backwards is MoM.
Therefore...
WoW players want to have sex with their Moms!
Disgusting....
L2Spell Noob
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Misanth
Reaper Industries
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Posted - 2009.07.13 15:56:00 -
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Edited by: Misanth on 13/07/2009 15:56:44
Originally by: Lana Hellfury
People play game radically different from what they enjoy and don't like it.. News at 11.
This. Also.. I fail.
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I played wow religously from release to Feb of this year. The reason I played? nothing else better out there, that I knew about. And im one that likes to surf for other games too, i love flash games and what not. Anyway a friend of mine started playing EvE and got me into it. First time around I was really only playing it cause our group of friends were. I loved that you could let the skills go even logged out, but at the time was kinda boring as i was ina newb frig and didnt know much about such a different mmo. I love the fact that its only at around 40k people on, 10 mill would make it stupid slow... though thats a target rich environment... hmm...
Anyway, i came back recently and fell in love with it again. Its drastically different than any other mmo out there. It really is a sandbox and it keeps getting bigger, and the devs give you new and shiney plastic shovels and dump trucks to play with ^^. WoW was and is a great game but its been the same damn grind since release, where as EvE is somewhat more dynamic in that its largely player controlled. THAT is a game i like to play. Dont think I'll play anything else for a while and even then, i can play another one while my eve character is skilling up All in all its a very flexible and NON time dependant game. Kudos to the devs and to all you griefers out there, keep up the mayhem
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Youjustwant Easykills
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Posted - 2009.07.13 23:08:00 -
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Originally by: Flossy Sock
Thing is Vanilla Wow really was a good game.
Wow now is truely awful, the way the game has been changed is quite sad, epixx for everyone and absolutely meaningless grinds (achievement points anyone ^^).
My thoughts exactly, the reason why I stopped playing it. Wasn't a bad game at all before WOTLK. Easymode raids ruined it.
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Cyrrus Ex
Gallente
Mercurialis Inc.
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.07.13 23:53:00 -
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Eve was/will/is be the only MMO I play/ed. WoW players clearly dont have the intellect to deal with eve (except those who have come from wow and stayed with us in eve and kept at it).
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Taua Roqa
Minmatar
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2009.07.14 00:39:00 -
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wow bashing never gets old. let's post that f**king learningcurve.jpg with all the little corpses on while we're at it and all laugh like ******s.
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Argo Nix
Minmatar
Ars Technica
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Posted - 2009.07.14 00:46:00 -
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Originally by: Taua Roqa
wow bashing never gets old. let's post that f**king learningcurve.jpg with all the little corpses on while we're at it and all laugh like ******s.
This ^^
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Taua Roqa
Minmatar
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2009.07.14 01:01:00 -
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LOL!!!1!1 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHahhaAaaaHAHAHHHHAHAHAHHHUUHUHUUUUUNNNNNNNNGHHHHHHH
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Lana Hellfury
Minmatar
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2009.07.14 01:09:00 -
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The problem is, that graph is pretty accurate.
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Victoria Akmea
Gallente
Taishite Kami
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Posted - 2009.07.14 02:16:00 -
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I showed that graph to a WoW friend I have. He said that's bulls**t and he would prove me wrong. He lasted 2 days in the trial before saying EVE was too confusing, he's going back to WoW.
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Venetian Tar
The 0ri
Sc0rched Earth
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Posted - 2009.07.14 02:18:00 -
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Originally by: Taua Roqa
LOL!!!1!1 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHahhaAaaaHAHAHHHHAHAHAHHHUUHUHUUUUUNNNNNNNNGHHHHHHH
That is pretty win.
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Msgerbs
Gallente
Imperial Assualt Guild
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Posted - 2009.07.14 02:48:00 -
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epic lulz, this thread provides.
I love how they talk about "lack of physics". So tell me. If I bump into something in wow, what happens again?
Scenery? Because I suppose you play the game to walk around and look at the trees. And more trees.
And I suppose having everyone split until a bazillion servers makes the game more massive.
Seems to me like most of these people saying this BS are just too stupid and wussy for eve and will make up anything to make themselves feel better.
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Nephilius
Caldari
Grey Legionaires
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Posted - 2009.07.14 04:28:00 -
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Originally by: Taua Roqa
Post of the year! Lulz!
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Pookie McPook
Nova Synergy PLC
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Posted - 2009.07.14 09:21:00 -
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Originally by: Taua Roqa
wow bashing never gets old. let's post that f**king learningcurve.jpg with all the little corpses on while we're at it and all laugh like ******s.
Personally I think we should go create WoW accounts and bait them on their forums. Fish in a barrel I'm telling you. Fish in a barrel.
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Kacer Xenro
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Posted - 2009.07.14 12:08:00 -
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Originally by: Pookie McPook
Originally by: Taua Roqa
wow bashing never gets old. let's post that f**king learningcurve.jpg with all the little corpses on while we're at it and all laugh like ******s.
Personally I think we should go create WoW accounts and bait them on their forums. Fish in a barrel I'm telling you. Fish in a barrel.
i support this, i would gladly renew my own sub just to write some random stuff on their forums ^^
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Kage Toshimado
Gallente
The Logistical Nightmare
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Posted - 2009.07.14 12:23:00 -
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Anyone else in here training an alt to pass on to their son or daughter some day? I eagerly await (still about 3 years from now) when I can hand my boy the keys to his first Basilisk so he can remote support his father's failing shields.
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ISK1machine
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Posted - 2009.07.14 12:58:00 -
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Originally by: Kage Toshimado
Anyone else in here training an alt to pass on to their son or daughter some day? I eagerly await (still about 3 years from now) when I can hand my boy the keys to his first Basilisk so he can remote support his father's failing shields.
I wonder what you are planning to do when your son ransom you for your car keys iot to rep your shields though:)
I never played WOW and i never played another MMO before.The fact that losing a fight means that i actually lose something will make every fight interesting in EVE.I would love to have some more "sim" style flying,but i am not really sure that it would kept the game running with all the lag that this gameplay could generate.
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Poreuomai
Minmatar
Mirkur Draug'Tyr
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.07.14 13:09:00 -
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Edited by: Poreuomai on 14/07/2009 13:15:13
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EVE is the worst MMO every made in my opinion. Common example of EVE gameplay:
Spend 10 hours figuring out the controls
Start up your crappy ship
Get a few missions you don't understand
Get told by the tutorial to mine instead of do your missions
Spend 10 hours mining to get money
Get killed by space pirates
Lose all your cargo and ship
Do it over again
Get a level up and think ''woohoo, I can kill those mean pirates now''
Find out that levelling up takes days to actually do.
Get bored and see what the PvP is like
Mercilessly attack some poor sod mining
Get blown up by space police who come from nowhere
Fly your pod which goes at 1 mph to the space station for a new ship
Get killed by the space station because it now sees you as hostile
Get cloned and put in a new ship
Leave the space station
Get shot by space police
*rabbles on for 20 years*
And that's the entire EVE gameplay in a nutshell.
How not to play EVE - I can see someone rage quitting after that.
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i first make a ship and have to go through 3 hours of mind numbing tutorials which make almost no sense or explain things like im a baby
(you see that glowing icon on you left which has a map icon? that is your map!oh no really? i thought it was my ships toilet exaust port)-baby
(when you finish talking with an agent use you adress book to open the space station that is in the system that you bookmarked to when you talked to the agnet and you clicked his mission objectives! whait what?! i have to use which thing?)-no sense
when you finnaly do go out and try stuff for the first time,you realise the first fatal flaw of EVE.
absolutely no flying control of your ship!
thats right,all you do is eighter set the autopilot or doubleclick in space.
you cannot turn your ship,rotate it, or make complex flying meuveours(ala star wars type space fighting)
all you do is click the autopilot or you doubleclick into space,and you ship automatically goes there with full thrust(making the point of speed pointless since youre always going with maximum thrust)
PVP.is a complete joke from a newbs standpoint.altho i belive its more complex when you get those battleships and such. all i do is click my target,lock on to it,and click my turret buttons.meanwhile i try to have it whitin optimal range.
thats it,it doesnt change at all.the winner is the guy who had better shields/armour or weapons.there is no dodging the hits,since youre locked on and the only modifier if you hit/get hit is the range and perhaps some modules you can install.
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the world is pretty bleak.there are perhaps 1000-10000 different solar systems AND THEY ALL LOOK THE SAME! each system has a sun,some planets,moons and asteroid systems.
To be honest I think he does have some valid points there even though his post misses a few vital things.
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Kage Toshimado
Gallente
The Logistical Nightmare
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Posted - 2009.07.14 13:43:00 -
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Originally by: ISK1machine
Originally by: Kage Toshimado
Anyone else in here training an alt to pass on to their son or daughter some day? I eagerly await (still about 3 years from now) when I can hand my boy the keys to his first Basilisk so he can remote support his father's failing shields.
I wonder what you are planning to do when your son ransom you for your car keys iot to rep your shields though:)
Inside I would shed a tear of joy that my son was growing up to be such a wonderful pirate. After I paid him though... I would bide my time. During his next engagment I'd reach over and unplug his network cable. 
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Fumen
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Posted - 2009.07.14 15:57:00 -
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Originally by: Kage Toshimado
Originally by: ISK1machine
Originally by: Kage Toshimado
Anyone else in here training an alt to pass on to their son or daughter some day? I eagerly await (still about 3 years from now) when I can hand my boy the keys to his first Basilisk so he can remote support his father's failing shields.
I wonder what you are planning to do when your son ransom you for your car keys iot to rep your shields though:)
Inside I would shed a tear of joy that my son was growing up to be such a wonderful pirate. After I paid him though... I would bide my time. During his next engagment I'd reach over and unplug his network cable.
See... Kage knows how to teach kids that all actions have consequences. That would probably be a greater lesson than anything else, too.
Kage, I approve of your idea and might just follow it. My son is still a little too young even for 'a few years off,' but when it comes that time, if he wants, he's got a well skilled character of his own to mess around with. (I'm assuming your son is only about 9 or 10 or so, cause I'm sure an intelligent 12 year old can play this game if guidance is available. )
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The PitBoss
Caldari
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2009.07.14 16:47:00 -
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CCP PLEASE forgive me for posting a picture to the forums BUT I Just wanted to illustrate WHY I DON'T PLAY WoW .... its because:
I COULD NEVER LOOK THIS GOOD IN A TOWEL.
Thank-You,
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Anya Stroud
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.07.14 17:18:00 -
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Originally by: Traidor Disloyal
I like being able to kill corpmates who irritate me.
This
That and I can lose my stuff in PvP...which makes thing more interesting...and i can take other people stuff that they have worked for = FUN AS HELL!!!
also lol's at the guys in FW that were bragging about how uber they are at MMO's because they have a lvl 80 rouge in WoW lol
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Kage Toshimado
Gallente
The Logistical Nightmare
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Posted - 2009.07.14 17:45:00 -
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Originally by: Fumen
I'm assuming your son is only about 9 or 10 or so, cause I'm sure an intelligent 12 year old can play this game if guidance is available. )
You're dead on with the age, excellent deduction. He'll be 10 in October. Hell look over my shoulder on occasion when I play EVE and knows he isn't ready just yet to take on the learning process. He's done pretty well at the RTS games like Age of Mythology and Dawn of War II but only because of a lot of trial and error. Trial and error in EVE will drive him to a -10 sec status I fear.
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Ohh Yeah
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Posted - 2009.07.14 18:15:00 -
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Kage, I started to play WoW with my dad a few years ago, except I was the mentor (exploitable to the max). It was a lot of fun. He still plays on occasion and I've told him to get EVE, but he says he doesn't have the time.
I explained how skills work and how he doesn't have to be playing to progress his character, but he claims that he doesn't have the spare time to learn how to play the game. I suppose it's a legitimate complaint.
Every time he walks into my room and I'm on EVE, he usually stands and watches for a good two or three minutes before saying that it looks more complicated than WoW and walks out of the room.
He also informed me that I do a lot of "spinning around your camera when you're docked". 
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Awesome Possum
Insert Obscure Latin Name
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Posted - 2009.07.14 19:03:00 -
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Edited by: Awesome Possum on 14/07/2009 19:04:24
Originally by: Kage Toshimado
During his next engagment I'd reach over and unplug his network cable.
This is why Kage is great.
I've said a few times that being successful in EVE mirrors ways to success in RL in quite a number of ways.
Should I ever have a kid, and if Eve is around in some way, I'll be handing that kid a dictionary, calculator, and personal account when they turn 10yrs old and wish them luck in conquering the universe.
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Ohh Yeah
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Posted - 2009.07.14 19:09:00 -
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Originally by: Awesome Possum
Edited by: Awesome Possum on 14/07/2009 19:04:24
Originally by: Kage Toshimado
During his next engagment I'd reach over and unplug his network cable.
This is why Kage is great.
I've said a few times that being successful in EVE mirrors ways to success in RL in quite a number of ways.
Should I ever have a kid, and if Eve is around in some way, I'll be handing that kid a dictionary, calculator, and personal account when they turn 10yrs old and wish them luck in conquering the universe.
Still planning to have kids with Lady Spank are you?
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Awesome Possum
Insert Obscure Latin Name
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Posted - 2009.07.14 19:18:00 -
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Kids with a brit? Dear god no.
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Posted - 2009.07.14 19:55:00 -
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Eh. There are some points worth making.
EVE mission running = most boring PvE since Lineage 2
EVE mining = most boring resource gathering since UO (attack ground with shovel)
EVE 0.0 warfare = blobbing = mindless PvP lovingly duplicated in Warhammer RvR zones
EVE militia warfare = most ridiculous PvP since WOW's pre-battleground Hillsbrad
I do love EVE's "pirate style" PvP -- hunting and killing in LowSec and 0.0 with probes and a few friends. I also love EVE's many alternative forms of "yar" like can flipping and looting other people's missions.
But even there I always warn people that "Piracy in EVE is 10% logistics, 89% hunting and 1% combat". I love the hunt, though. I loved PvP on the old EQ PvP servers because it was all about the hunt. Sneaking through the jungles, hunting people down, hiding behind a tree until the moment was right -- EVE is a lot like that. If you like hunting and stalking and killing people who don't want to be killed, I don't know that any game out there is better than EVE. (WW2O is close but that game lacks a sense of investment, since the tank you just lost was not really yours.)
But there are are plenty of things in EVE where I just don't see how anyone can stand it and the WOW-heads are not wrong to point fingers at those things.
I basically see EVE as a form of ADD-detox, too. After years of high action games, it takes a couple weeks of EVE to get back into the groove of patiently waiting for the quality kills rather than simply charging headfirst into meaningless battle after meaningless battle. Some gamers can't do the detox, though. They are stuck with ADD.
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Posted - 2009.07.14 23:23:00 -
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I play WoW, not as much as I used to, I actually started off with EQ2 5 years ago-ish...I went to WoW after burning out on raiding in EQ2 for WoW's PvP. For that genre of MMOs it has good mechanics for PvP, regardless of the /whinefest that is known as the WoW forums.
I quit EVE last year b/c I just found myself wrapped up in EQ2 raiding to the point where I didn't have time for it. After giving up EQ2 and spending 6 months in WoW, I ended up resubbing to EVE (my longing for EVE was augmented by listening to EVE Radio) and I have to say, I find EVE more entertaining that's for sure. WoW still has it's appeal to me, but unfortunately I can only take so much of the people that play WoW...at least in EVE if you kill someone or get killed it's usually ended with a "gf" followed by some advice/humor/whatever...in WoW you just end up with e-peenery and childishness that generally turns me off to the game...I've really only been able to take WoW in small portions since I resubbed to EVE, and am generally happier for it. That and the e-peenery that happens in WoW from being an uber "PvE god cuz I can figure out the NPC scripts" is beyond silly.
I usually want to strangle 90% of the population of the server I'm on in WoW after a couple hours of being there.
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Sans Honore
Gallente
Wirfadam Productions LTD
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Posted - 2009.07.15 01:13:00 -
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Originally by: Barakkus
I usually want to strangle 90% of the population of the server I'm on in WoW after a couple hours of being there.
Yep.
I burned out on raiding 2 years ago. I like having to "think" through a problem to solve it. It beats the hell out of grinding rep to solve it.
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FireT
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Posted - 2009.07.15 02:32:00 -
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Ok, there will always be those that love WoW and those that love Eve.
Hell we have those that hate WoW and those that hate Eve.
The only real difference is how the developers handle the game and improvements. Overall, Eve has a rather sane group of developers and balances. I just discovered this little article from a WoW employee and he pretty much sums up the issues I ever had with WoW.
http://www.eldergame.com/2009/07/08/the-warcraft-live-teams-b-squad/
Eve might have minor balances, but none that constantly downgrade all classes but 1, and just keep rotating those classes to the top position. Why? Easy, because if CCP completely breaks a ship or even faction they will instantly get the backlash in playing style by the players. In WoW most people have given up on hoping for anything that isn't a ******ed fish flapping on a keyboard and calling it balance. 
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente
Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.07.15 03:53:00 -
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We have to admit this much:
WOW has much much more content than EVE.
Also, a WOW PVP server is worse than EVE PVP. There is no CONCORD in WOW. I have seen starter zones shut down and the nooblets forced to run.
Fact is, I blame the missioning in EVE for the emorageganker infliction. If I do "Human Cattle" or "Materials for War preparation" one more time, I swear it will be me ganking noobs just to keep from jumping off the nearest bridge.
The content of EVE appears to have once been set up for being very diverse and rich, but somethere, like a workbench that became too cluttered with used parts to be a workbench, that was lost.
And when WH space is stripmalled like much of nullsec, people will begin to leave again - and leave behind the scanning mechanic that now makes low sec missions unprofitable.
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Lana Hellfury
Minmatar
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2009.07.15 04:51:00 -
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I read your whole post, and even agreed with you until this point
Originally by: Herzog Wolfhammer
and leave behind the scanning mechanic that now makes low sec missions unprofitable.
Say what you want about the new scanning mechanics, but they are a lot harder to use than the old ones. You now have to actually WORK to find people, which means you can get GOOD at it. Lowsec missioning is no less profitable than it was before, it just means someone where you are running missions has put some time in to learning a skill (and i mean a player skill, not a character skill) and has gotten very good at scanning people down. I would recommend putting some time in to learning the counter to this skill (ie, watch local, check your directional scanner and learn who the pirates in the area are)
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Katarlia Simov
Minmatar
Cowboys From Hell
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Posted - 2009.07.15 04:53:00 -
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I've been playing eve since about mid 2004, and made a couple of characters since, partially due to growing to hate all the RL people who got me into it.
During that time I've played a bundle of other MMOs. And WoW is by far the least enjoyable. Within the first few days, I realised that the rest of the game was going to be exactly the same, just with different graphics. Its not because its a bad game per-se, just that grinding makes my brain hurt and it not feel like a game.
I have a genuine amount of love for both TabRas and Requiem (the former was great, least I thought so, the latter, god awful), both of which i only played in beta, but i LOVE beta communities. Its nice to be playing things for the first time before there's a set way to do things, and there's a genuine sense of exploration and 'holy crap thats AWESOME'. Betas are also cool because people are laid back. It doesn't matter, so you can play like a gentleman. Chuck the good loot to people who can actually use it, even if you never met them... you know.... just be nice :).
Also TabRas beta was the last time I heard someone use the word 'verily' in a non-rp or ironic context, and I was so surprised I splattered a moniter with coke and fell off my chair. Good times. Oh and experiance multiplyers. That was a kickass idea. Why don't other people do that ?
I also enjoyed CoV for the few months I played it. Mainly because I just soloed and got a kick out of getting all the fun new bits and bobs that are scattered around. Comic book stuff is offically cool. And it was cooler that my GF cosplayed my villain for IRL fun times.
Anyway ... I have kinda wandered off topic.
But to sum up.
Eve is one of the things you will never EVER be able to get from another game. I have rage-quit once, and money-quit twice. But for some reason I just keep coming back for more.
Maybe because eve is populated by people who encourage you to play drunk because it leads to comedy loss mails. Maybe because it's something you can do while watching tv or being pleasured under your desk.
Maybe its because once you've understood the scale of eve pvp, thousands of players across hundreds of systems, you will never be impressed by a dozen guys tooling around laughing at how awesome they are. It's like being in the army compared to being a high-school jock. You don't even need to say anything.
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Scapa
Caldari Corporation 12345
Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.07.15 05:56:00 -
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WoW is so 2008 now i play [ World Of World Of Warcraft's ]
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Xorth Adimus
Caldari
The Perfect Storm
Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2009.07.15 07:06:00 -
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Quote:
Needing a break from wow i tried a free trial of EVE Online and i was so mad after just 2 days that i didnt even finsh the damn trial.
It's basically a space mmog where you fly startrek like ships and npc hunt, trade, mine or mission run or build your own empires and stuff. Sounds fine and like a standard game right? Wrong..it's full of griefers....adult griefers.
I went looking for better asteroids in a slightly lower security system than i started in and within 5 seconds of me mining, pirate players warped in, killed me....and took my ore. FFS i'm just a newb in a crappy ship what was the point of that ****?
So I appear back in the station with a kill message and in the basic ship. So I fit some guns and go back this time without mining lasers so i can fight, i get to the system and ask them why they are killing newbies. They told me they didnt know and invited me to thier gang so i could warp to them for my stuff back.
I did then we started talking about the game, they were both in their late 20's and they asked my age. Before i even finished typing they locked me and killed my ship AGAIN. I escaped in my pod and warped from moon to moon trying to loose them but they kept chasing me trying to kill my pod too.
I logged off, **** it and im not going back ever. Worst thing is the developers and GM's ENCOURAGE griefing and say its part of the game!!!!!!????? People can kill and steal from you and they get a pat on the back from GM's? WTF!!
I'm all for concentual pvp but random killings and constant griefing is not fun.
Dont EVER play EVE Online, it's a griefers game far beyond any reasonable limit.
I will never stop playing Eve, for this very reason.
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Cal Darinne
Caldari
a Lame Astral Dragon Yogurt
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Posted - 2009.07.15 07:37:00 -
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Edited by: Cal Darinne on 15/07/2009 07:40:07
After what I've read in the beginning (tl;dr), I guess that I'm a rare breed. I play both WoW and EVE at the same time :) ... with success even.
Both games are fun... Especially WoW, when you're making fun of the throng of 10yr old kids.
All in all, EVE Online will always remain my no. 1 game no matter what.
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Kayna Eelai
Gallente
Paxton Industries
Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2009.07.15 09:32:00 -
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i've switched back and forth from wow to eve to wow and several other MMOs and also plenty of single/multiplayer player games on the PC and Wii
EvE vs. WoW? you can't compare apples with bananas (not even using oranges for this comparation)
both trolling sides are right. both games have ups and downs. i have played wow since beta and eve for a year or so. i have fun in both and both games have their downsides.
wow and eve players could actually get together and agree that there is the ONE thing that sucks ass wherever you go: developers.
when a eve player goes wow... he goes from playing 2 years with the same star system background, playing a game full of griefes (maybe he is one of those) into a game with elves and trees and cartoonish graphics and a nice excess of young kids and carebears. won't be easy to please that eve player and that's when he quits wow and comes to the forums to make funny comments.
when a wow player goes eve (and trust me, this happens more often than the other way around, due eve 14d free trial and a pretty light client compared to wow) doesn't matter if he was a hardcore raider, uber pvper, or a carebear... he comes from a flashy cartoonish world, he comes from the most popular MMO out there right now (thx to having the most intutive interface, easy learning curve, "sense of reward" by leveling up and many other reasons) to a dark harsh world, with one of the crappiest tutorials you will ever find, a interface designed pre-cold war and the first thing he is gonna learn is that all what he worked for in 24h. playtime went POOF because he didn't have an insurance, a medical clone and he was curious about that can outside the station.
ergo... he emorage quits and goes to troll forums.
zero punctuation has a very accurate view on how newbs feel about this game. the worst thing is that the review was written in 2008 and nothing has improved.
i can understand both sides TBH.
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Originally by: Kayna Eelai
when a wow player goes eve (and trust me, this happens more often than the other way around, due eve 14d free trial and a pretty light client compared to wow) doesn't matter if he was a hardcore raider, uber pvper, or a carebear... he comes from a flashy cartoonish world, he comes from the most popular MMO out there right now (thx to having the most intutive interface, easy learning curve, "sense of reward" by leveling up and many other reasons) to a dark harsh world, with one of the crappiest tutorials you will ever find, a interface designed pre-cold war and the first thing he is gonna learn is that all what he worked for in 24h. playtime went POOF because he didn't have an insurance, a medical clone and he was curious about that can outside the station.
ergo... he emorage quits and goes to troll forums.
zero punctuation has a very accurate view on how newbs feel about this game. the worst thing is that the review was written in 2008 and nothing has improved.
i can understand both sides TBH.
You'd think when the noobie went to flip that first can he would've read that criminal act warning. They usually get blown up mining or mission running when a can flipper, mission ganker jumps in, flips a can or loot, and then waits until the noobie shoots at them. Thinking that somehow a day or two of training will make them equal to even a 1 month old player.
That's the unfortunate part about the WoW migrants. They have no sense of risk vs reward when it comes to MMO. So they emoragequit the first time they discover that there are consequences for their actions in Eve. Whether they be righteous actions or not.
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Draeca
Tharri and Co.
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Posted - 2009.07.15 11:22:00 -
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Wowers want the game developers to set their goals for them, whereas eve players want the freedom of choosing whatever they want to do with their game world.
They get their fun from a simple rollercoaster ride through the magic sword and dragon filled dungeons and our definition of fun is something completely different. It's not like that CS player would enjoy complex simulator games either.
I used to play wow since the open beta and I admit it was fun for a while, but after the expansions it went all downhill. It became too simple when the devs were just catering to the simple players and whiners, and it lost all the feeling of epicness from it's content (40man raids were reduced to 25).
But the thing that I really hated is that in the end there is no content. Yes, there will be new dungeons, new items etc. but in the end it's all about just getting that better and shinier magic sword or enchanted bra of +3 fire damage.
I want some actual content from my games, not just a diablo 2 for which I have to pay a monthly fee to play.
I can't stand class based MMOs either anymore. In eve I can fly just about everything up to battlecruisers, except caldari t2 stuff. I'm a jack of all trades in eve just as I am in real life, specializing just isn't my thing. Class based games mean that I have really hard time choosing my class, and when I finally get it to max level I might want to try something else and that just means going through the level grind all over again. Not funny at all.
Hurf and blurf.
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Xyriach
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Posted - 2009.07.15 11:34:00 -
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I've been a WoW player for years and have from time to time dabbled in EVE, setting up a trial account and having a bash and then deciding that EVE is a vicious, mean and damned harsh game that is better left alone.
I've made it further through this time to the point where I've signed up for a full account and haven't touched WoW in over a week now.
Why?
Because EVE makes sense. It isn't confused about what it is or who its customers are, it is what it is.
It's a huge game with thousands of options and no real "right way" of fulfiling any of them. Which is what makes it daunting at first, and coming from the "pick up and play" background of WoW, unless you really appreciate that EVE is not so much a different ball park as a different, erm, game (when good metaphors go bad) you can begin to get to grips with it.
WoW is a PvE game that's got a PvP player base. By this I mean that WoW is principally PvE, the leveling process is PvE, the majority of the content is PvE and even the PvP depends on PvE so much in that you have to use the PvE world to support your PvP play. This creates the paradox of WoW, they nerf and buff the game to suit the complaints of the PvPers as they throw themselves into developing the PvP side of the game, which causes an outcry from the PvE crowd (which is everyone sooner or later) so the buff or nerf something else which has led them to the point where the game is almost unplayable as no skill remains constant for long enough for you to adapt to it's most recent changes. World of Patchcraft it should be renamed.
It takes skill to play both games well. It takes patience to play them both. WoW is forgiving in certain ways that EVE is not and vice versa, so it's entirely up to how you want to spend your playtime, but WoW, is, was and always will be in the hands of developers who listen to 12 year olds.
EVE, you have to love. The devs don't spend their time listening to thirteen sides of the same argument and having to find a solution that suits everyone.
They've gone "Here's a galaxy, go play. PS Some people are ****s, deal with it."
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Jint Hikaru
Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2009.07.15 12:09:00 -
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I used to play wow since the open beta and I admit it was fun for a while, but after the expansions it went all downhill. It became too simple when the devs were just catering to the simple players and whiners, and it lost all the feeling of epicness from it's content (40man raids were reduced to 25).
Same thing happened to EQ.. first few expansions were great, then they made traveling easier, gave more classes the same abilities, made corpse recoveries trivial, added in more and more grind to progress (keyed zones, faction grind for spell vendors, bah)
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Ta'jek
Angels Of Death EVE
Free Worlds Alliance
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Posted - 2009.07.15 12:33:00 -
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Originally by: Draeca
Wowers want the game developers to set their goals for them, whereas eve players want the freedom of choosing whatever they want to do with their game world.
sadly spending some time on other game forums it's not just Wow players that are like this. The majority of gamers are getting this way. They don't seem to want any game to be to hard for them to play, it's not fun if they can lose.
One of the things I like about Eve is that Stupid hurts.
Take the can labeled free in front of a station and you'll probably go boom.
Accept a contract without reading it and you are outta isk.
Smack talk the wrong people or be an jack*ss on the forums and you get a war dec.
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Kayna Eelai
Gallente
Paxton Industries
Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2009.07.15 12:55:00 -
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Edited by: Kayna Eelai on 15/07/2009 12:55:04
Originally by: Ta'jek
sadly spending some time on other game forums it's not just Wow players that are like this. The majority of gamers are getting this way.
sad but true. and the real hardcore gamers have to suffer the consequences because all that's on the market are crap games with no difficulty whatsoever.
i'd thay THIS pretty much sums it up nicely.
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1st Recon
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Posted - 2009.07.15 13:40:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Sarpedeus
Edited by: Sarpedeus on 12/07/2009 21:57:37
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eve online is boring. tried it once.. not that i played it for a long time.. but.. spaceships and stuff? naah. i want elves and magic :3
that's me irl
HAHAHAAAA AHA elves and magic! lol
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Hexperience
Amarr
Calico Jacks
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Posted - 2009.07.15 13:48:00 -
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Get killed by space pirates
lol
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Donatella D'Tren
Cloak and Daggers
HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2009.07.15 16:40:00 -
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Originally by: Xyriach
They've gone "Here's a galaxy, go play. PS Some people are ****s, deal with it."
This. This is why I'm never leaving.
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Liyla
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Posted - 2009.07.15 17:21:00 -
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Is there any MMORPG out there similar to Eves freedoms (pvp, market) but in an character-enviroment (I mean like WoW or EQ2)?
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Sarpedeus
Paragon Productions
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Posted - 2009.07.15 18:35:00 -
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I'm not really sure where people got the impression that I dislike WoW from???
I'm actually going to give it a shot this time, and like, get to level 80 and ****. And like, do raids or whatever wacky **** those crazy WoW kids do.
Everytime I've tried it before, I ragequit @ level 15 or so.
So we'll see~~~
Good discussion ITT about WoW/EVE btw, n1.
They're just such completely different styles of games that it's difficult to compare, although I really feel that the PvP in WoW is lacking compared to EVE's, but I haven't done battlegrounds and stuff yet so vOv
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Grann Thefauto
Internal Anarchy
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Posted - 2009.07.15 19:22:00 -
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I got up to level 23 or so in WOW because my mom was playing and wanted me to join too (I'm such a good son). It was fun for a bit, but then I realized there was nothing more to do but kill NPCs. I did the battle grounds for a while and that was way more fun since there was an actual challenge, but that becomes a grind pretty quick too. I hated the fact that I was guaranteed to lose if I was 5 levels lower than someone.
Then I switched back to Eve and luckily fell in with the wrong crowd. What I love about eve so much is that there is a real art to it. WOW is more of a science where you CAN have ultimate DPS + super magic defense, and big stats always win. Its not really anymore variable than a math equation. In eve however you can get soundly trounced by three destroyers in your fully faction fit Navy Raven. When EFT Warrioring is a legitimate criticism you know you have a good game.
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Ohh Yeah
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Posted - 2009.07.15 20:03:00 -
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Originally by: Awesome Possum
Kids with a brit? Dear god no.
High-five for good personal hygiene! o/\o
(Uhh. You didn't have any objections with having kids with a man who pretends to be a woman on the internet. I'm concerned.)
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Barakkus
Caelestis Iudicium
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Posted - 2009.07.15 21:50:00 -
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Originally by: Sarpedeus
I'm not really sure where people got the impression that I dislike WoW from???
I'm actually going to give it a shot this time, and like, get to level 80 and ****. And like, do raids or whatever wacky **** those crazy WoW kids do.
Everytime I've tried it before, I ragequit @ level 15 or so.
So we'll see~~~
Good discussion ITT about WoW/EVE btw, n1.
They're just such completely different styles of games that it's difficult to compare, although I really feel that the PvP in WoW is lacking compared to EVE's, but I haven't done battlegrounds and stuff yet so vOv
I spend almost all my WoW time in battle grounds or arena.
Battle grounds are awesome, but if you want a real challenge you'll do arena. Just don't bother jumping into arena matches unless you're geared (i.e. buy a full pvp set).
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Zander Coyote
Foxtrot Uniform Charlie Kilo
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Posted - 2009.07.15 22:51:00 -
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Originally by: Ohh Yeah
Originally by: Awesome Possum
Kids with a brit? Dear god no.
High-five for good personal hygiene! o/\o
(Uhh. You didn't have any objections with having kids with a man who pretends to be a woman on the internet. I'm concerned.)
I'm a guy who dreams he's a woman who pretends to be a guy that plays female characters online.
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seizoni
Minmatar
Hoplite Brigade
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Posted - 2009.07.16 01:46:00 -
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"only *******s post on game forums. (Statistically speaking, anyway.)"
I like that WoW dev. 
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Cal Darinne
Caldari
a Lame Astral Dragon Yogurt
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Posted - 2009.07.16 02:26:00 -
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I've been playing EVE for 2 years now and WoW since its beta. First couple of months in EVE were nerve wrecking. After that I came to understand almost all of its aspects, and now, after 2+ years I believe that EVE > WoW any day.
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Posted - 2009.07.16 04:20:00 -
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I usually don't like the WoW-bashing fad in EVE, it's old and quite uncalled for, however I couldn't help but smirk a little when reading those posts.
WoW is a great game, although I feel that it's been in rapid decline since WOTLK was released. The PvE content is alot more entertaining as far as I'm concerned, EVE PvE is just too static and cold. To start up a new toon in EVE takes time, alot of time, so much I honestly wouldn't get into the game again if I lost my current chars. To do quality endgame content in WoW you only need like 2 months of intensive play, during which there's still a fair ammount of good content to enjoy.
Well, maybe if I think about it, I s'pose I could've started up a trader/hauler as it only takes a short while to get into a Freighter thanks to the 2x training speed, neural remaps and +4/5 implants. I doubt that most new players would be interested in that though, nor have enough game insight to do it properly or can afford the necessary implants to speed up the process.
In any case, many of us have played WoW, been there and done that so to speak. Everything gets old eventually and other than WoW there isn't much but EVE left IMO. Also, unlike WoW, EVE actually has PvP worth playing and the cold harsh nature of space is a refreshing change.
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Ze4K DK
Gallente
Nova-Tek
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2009.07.16 05:12:00 -
[92]
This thread delivers...
The OP got me laughing pretty hard with "So obviously after calling someone called healprincess fat for two hours and getting reported for telling someone that their mother was "up for rfc" (whatever the **** that is)"
then the "it's full of griefers... adult griefers" got me laughing just a little bit harder... and just when i thought that it wasn't gonna get any better, i discover the picture of the kid wearing a towel while holding the WoW box... Freaking priceless...
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Lana Hellfury
Minmatar
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2009.07.16 05:39:00 -
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Originally by: Sarpedeus
I'm not really sure where people got the impression that I dislike WoW from???
I'm actually going to give it a shot this time, and like, get to level 80 and ****. And like, do raids or whatever wacky **** those crazy WoW kids do.
Well I just had it confirmed that you are in fact doing this.... I'm pretty sure if I told you how I felt about this I would cop another ban...
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente
Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.07.16 07:21:00 -
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Originally by: Barakkus
Originally by: Sarpedeus
I'm not really sure where people got the impression that I dislike WoW from???
I'm actually going to give it a shot this time, and like, get to level 80 and ****. And like, do raids or whatever wacky **** those crazy WoW kids do.
Everytime I've tried it before, I ragequit @ level 15 or so.
So we'll see~~~
Good discussion ITT about WoW/EVE btw, n1.
They're just such completely different styles of games that it's difficult to compare, although I really feel that the PvP in WoW is lacking compared to EVE's, but I haven't done battlegrounds and stuff yet so vOv
I spend almost all my WoW time in battle grounds or arena.
Battle grounds are awesome, but if you want a real challenge you'll do arena. Just don't bother jumping into arena matches unless you're geared (i.e. buy a full pvp set).
Indeed!
WOW is quite unfriendly to lack of twink. In EVE you still have a chance to survive or even win if you are more experienced. But in WOW, the twink - especially in the BGs, is crucial. Wihtout it you get spanked.
In WOW, people with the time can run through the same dungeon over and over and eventually get the entire set of matching gear, from which a bonus comes. There are also "honor points" from the BGs - I had a hunter with thousands of them. You get twink gear from that too.
But if you lack the time, you suffer greatly, and this drives people off.
EVE's feature of being able to skill up while logged off was a big selling point for me, because at times months go by where all I do is log in to keep the training going.
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Posted - 2009.07.16 08:14:00 -
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What we need is a truly mmorpg elder scrolls. while it's still level based, it doesn't follow a strict class structure and you can attack villagers and such in elder scrolls games. if they kept the ability to attack anywhere at any time, if they kept the level based play, give xp for pvp kills you'd have a halfway decent mmorpg(obviously you'd have to make noobie farming unprofitable for higher level players) Could do something like Fable as a decent MMORPG aswell. Maybe even better. As far as what is already available... I personally think Vanguard, CoH/CoV, and a handful of other mmorpgs are far better than WoW. Even with a large pve grind to them.
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Exitar Stormscion
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Posted - 2009.07.16 08:24:00 -
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http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=104430728&postId=101060114147&sid=1#93
my post ex wow player as well :) having fun in eve sorry if it is boring for someone to read all the wow stuff that i spited at there face :)
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Sarpedeus
Paragon Productions
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Posted - 2009.07.16 10:34:00 -
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpMdxCVuGR0
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Xyriach
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Posted - 2009.07.16 11:17:00 -
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Edited by: Xyriach on 16/07/2009 11:17:42
Originally by: Herzog WolfhammerIndeed!
WOW is quite unfriendly to lack of twink. In EVE you still have a chance to survive or even win if you are more experienced. But in WOW, the twink - especially in the BGs, is crucial. Wihtout it you get spanked.
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Not entirely true, a moron with great gear will get owned consistently by a labrador in quest greens.
If you have half a clue about what you're doing and are not trying to let your gear do all the work you can be top of the KB, HK and damage tables without fail.
Letting your hardware do the work your wetware should be doing = fail, no matter what game you're playing.
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Barakkus
Caelestis Iudicium
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Posted - 2009.07.16 12:21:00 -
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Originally by: Xyriach
Edited by: Xyriach on 16/07/2009 11:17:42
Originally by: Herzog WolfhammerIndeed!
WOW is quite unfriendly to lack of twink. In EVE you still have a chance to survive or even win if you are more experienced. But in WOW, the twink - especially in the BGs, is crucial. Wihtout it you get spanked.
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Not entirely true, a moron with great gear will get owned consistently by a labrador in quest greens.
If you have half a clue about what you're doing and are not trying to let your gear do all the work you can be top of the KB, HK and damage tables without fail.
Letting your hardware do the work your wetware should be doing = fail, no matter what game you're playing.
This is pretty much true. You don't have to twink to be successful, but you will need pvp gear for pvping, pve gear will get you stomped into the ground pretty quickly. Next patch they're making resilience actually mitigate all damage instead of just crits.
You don't have to necessarily "twink" to get the gear, you can buy all the blue player made pvp gear, and getting honor for the hateful set at 80 is a breeze, you can get the entire set within 3 weeks of casually farming bgs for honor.
You will have to research what the best specs are for whatever you play, and what enchants/gems you need etc, much like figuring out the right fits in EVE. As long as you are smart about it and tailor it to your playstyle you'll do well...just don't expect to faceroll and be successful.
I was consistently in the top 3 for almost every bg I would do without the hateful set, and now it's just easier for me now that I'm all deadly/furious ;) (and it's fun as hell melting everyone's face repeatedly )
If you end up rolling on Onyxia let me know and I'll toss you some gold, since I have really nothing to spend it on at the moment. http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Onyxia&n=Redharc
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Xyriach
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Posted - 2009.07.16 12:32:00 -
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I'd say in some ways EVE is easier than WoW, once you've got past the initial learning curve and got your head around the fact that the game is limitlessly huge, it seems to me to be a case of upgrading when you can and enjoying the experience.
WoW is a constant farm of stats, a very pretty maths engine that only works as a game if you keep trying to feed it more numbers. Kill [Insert Mob or Player] X number of times to achieve Y result which if done frequently enough awards you Z item.
EVE, doesn't need that. Sure there are DPS, HP and other such stats, but those figures don't make the experience, having them maxed out and having the biggest ship isn't what the game is geared towards. It's geared towards that wonderful experience of hoping the guy in the battlecruiser isn't interested in you and he'll leave you alone while you salvage the ....oh crap, he's just locked on....
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Posted - 2009.07.16 12:33:00 -
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Originally by: Xenophanes Colophon
What we need is a truly mmorpg elder scrolls. while it's still level based, it doesn't follow a strict class structure and you can attack villagers and such in elder scrolls games. if they kept the ability to attack anywhere at any time, if they kept the level based play, give xp for pvp kills you'd have a halfway decent mmorpg(obviously you'd have to make noobie farming unprofitable for higher level players) Could do something like Fable as a decent MMORPG aswell. Maybe even better. As far as what is already available... I personally think Vanguard, CoH/CoV, and a handful of other mmorpgs are far better than WoW. Even with a large pve grind to them.
there was and still is a game that follows an open end leveling system where there isn't any classes and you can make the character the way you want to. the graphics blow compared to other stuff but it was the very first mmo i started on...Asheron's Call
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Barakkus
Caelestis Iudicium
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Posted - 2009.07.16 12:37:00 -
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The new starwars mmo coming out looks rather promising.
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Kayna Eelai
Gallente
Paxton Industries
Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2009.07.16 12:56:00 -
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Originally by: Barakkus
The new starwars mmo coming out looks rather promising.
TBH i am a bit dissapointed by the fact that it seems to be class based too, but just a few (what's it, 5 each side?) classes total
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Posted - 2009.07.16 13:04:00 -
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I cancelled my Warcraft account about 2 weeks ago - best decision I ever made. I picked up a cheap copy of Guild Wars so that if I do get a hard on for swords and sorcery PvP, at least it will be reasonably balanced and decent.
Whenever I think of a WoW fanboy coming on here, I think of the Mos Eisley cantina scene in Star Wars. You have a bar wonderfully full of freaks, screw-ups and low-lifes and then this boy band reject comes waltzing in thinking he knows the score.
Quote:
"He doesn't like you."
"I'm sorry."
"I don't like you either...."
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Barakkus
Caelestis Iudicium
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Posted - 2009.07.16 14:31:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Anyura
I cancelled my Warcraft account about 2 weeks ago - best decision I ever made. I picked up a cheap copy of Guild Wars so that if I do get a hard on for swords and sorcery PvP, at least it will be reasonably balanced and decent.
Whenever I think of a WoW fanboy coming on here, I think of the Mos Eisley cantina scene in Star Wars. You have a bar wonderfully full of freaks, screw-ups and low-lifes and then this boy band reject comes waltzing in thinking he knows the score.
Quote:
"He doesn't like you."
"I'm sorry."
"I don't like you either...."
Aion (makers of guildwars) looks pretty good, thinking about checking that out. I just hope it's not as pitiful as Perfect World (another Korean mmo).
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Susung
Alt Anti-defamation League
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Posted - 2009.07.17 00:07:00 -
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This thread contains a serious lack of trolling, and actual discussion. Not to mention nobody has mentioned how wonderfull ANY of the Lana's are. How did this crap get into C&P. If nobody dies or nobody cries it belongs somewhere else
O ya I played wow for like 2 hours at a friends request once. Lets just say he won't ask me to do that again
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Awesome Possum
Insert Obscure Latin Name
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Posted - 2009.07.17 00:10:00 -
[107]
Originally by: Herzog Wolfhammer
Indeed!
WOW is quite unfriendly to lack of twink. In EVE you still have a chance to survive or even win if you are more experienced. But in WOW, the twink - especially in the BGs, is crucial. Wihtout it you get spanked.
In WOW, people with the time can run through the same dungeon over and over and eventually get the entire set of matching gear, from which a bonus comes. There are also "honor points" from the BGs - I had a hunter with thousands of them. You get twink gear from that too.
But if you lack the time, you suffer greatly, and this drives people off.
EVE's feature of being able to skill up while logged off was a big selling point for me, because at times months go by where all I do is log in to keep the training going.
^^^Someone who doesn't understand twinking.
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Posted - 2009.07.17 01:14:00 -
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I've recently started playing EVE, and it really seems superior to WoW.
The sad thing though is that many here are like those the OP quotes. The real strengths of WoW are hardcore raiding and small scale elite PvP in arenas, if you want something else it's probably not for you.
On the other hand, the real strengths of EVE are large scale PvP in fighting and economy, and the freedom that enables it. This is why I lose hope in EVE when I read about people who do nothing but solo grind level 4 missions, and on top of that complain about the PvP elements of EVE that discomfort them. Why aren't they playing WoW? Or any other PvE focused MMO for that matter? Grinding all 10 classes to max level can't be more boring than doing the same few missions over and over again.
I started playing EVE because of intelligent and organized PvP. If EVE were to start emphasizing more on grindy casual PvE, I'd quit in a heartbeat and continue healing in actually challanging PvE content in WoW.
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Awesome Possum
Insert Obscure Latin Name
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Posted - 2009.07.17 01:23:00 -
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Originally by: Mercrom
and continue healing in actually challanging PvE content in WoW.
Confirming that raid healing was the only challenging part of PVE in WOW.
Juggling hot rotations on 3-4 toons > "stabby stabby stabby stabby stabby AGGRO! /vanish /repeat"
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Posted - 2009.07.17 01:31:00 -
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Originally by: Mercrom
This is why I lose hope in EVE when I read about people who do nothing but solo grind level 4 missions, and on top of that complain about the PvP elements of EVE that discomfort them. Why aren't they playing WoW? Or any other PvE focused MMO for that matter? Grinding all 10 classes to max level can't be more boring than doing the same few missions over and over again.
Because running missions on hi-sec is the best "isk vs risk" method of getting quick cash (well, unless you're into scamming). And yes, I played WoW for about 4 years. Running L4s is far more enjoyable than leveling yet another alt (because you have nothing to do when you're not raiding).
Originally by: Mercrom
On the other hand, the real strengths of EVE are large scale PvP in fighting and economy, and the freedom that enables it.
You said it yourself. Freedom. If someone wants to run L4s till 2015 who're you to tell him not to?
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Sarpedeus
Paragon Productions
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Posted - 2009.07.17 02:40:00 -
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lmao just checked my facebook
n1 bai
Bai ZongTong > but 90% of the corp kinda went missins so :/
Lana Torrin > yeah i was gona ask about that
Lana Torrin > i havent seen anyone for ages!
Bai ZongTong > nexus
Bai ZongTong > went
Bai ZongTong > to
Bai ZongTong > play
Bai ZongTong > wow
Lana Torrin > i always knew he was gay....
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Sarpedeus
Paragon Productions
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Posted - 2009.07.17 02:41:00 -
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bai literally owns on facebook
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The Mag
Gallente
Wondering Derelicts
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Posted - 2009.07.17 03:57:00 -
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you realise the first fatal flaw of EVE.
absolutely no flying control of your ship!
thats right,all you do is eighter set the autopilot or doubleclick in space.
you cannot turn your ship,rotate it, or make complex flying meuveours(ala star wars type space fighting)
all you do is click the autopilot or you doubleclick into space,and you ship automatically goes there with full thrust
Actually, this is a ligit complaint. It would be nice to be able to control the ships with a joystick movements instead of clicking the mouse.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente
Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.07.17 04:27:00 -
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Originally by: The Mag
you realise the first fatal flaw of EVE.
absolutely no flying control of your ship!
thats right,all you do is eighter set the autopilot or doubleclick in space.
you cannot turn your ship,rotate it, or make complex flying meuveours(ala star wars type space fighting)
all you do is click the autopilot or you doubleclick into space,and you ship automatically goes there with full thrust
Actually, this is a ligit complaint. It would be nice to be able to control the ships with a joystick movements instead of clicking the mouse.
A game where you steer your ship consistently, as with a joystick is called "twitch" gaming. Sadly it's very hard to keep solid update loops between client and server in an MMO that is forgiving for twitch gaming. The data structure of EVE, unlike WOW, does not seem to be friendly to it either. There is enough lag without it. Sad though because "twitch" fighter craft would rock in this game.
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Sanitarium Slave
Minmatar
Guiding Hand Social Club
Dystopia Alliance
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Posted - 2009.07.17 05:07:00 -
[115]
this thread needs more stereotypes
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Lana Hellfury
Minmatar
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2009.07.17 05:27:00 -
[116]
Originally by: Sanitarium Slave
this thread needs more stereotypes
Girls cant PvP!
wait.....
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Sarpedeus
Paragon Productions
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Posted - 2009.07.17 09:35:00 -
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Originally by: Lana Hellfury
Originally by: Sanitarium Slave
this thread needs more stereotypes
Girls cant PvP!
wait.....
well..
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CCP Applebabe
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Posted - 2009.07.17 09:53:00 -
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Moved to " OOPE ".
Applebabe
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LordSwift
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.07.17 10:47:00 -
[119]
Originally by: Lana Hellfury
Originally by: Sanitarium Slave
this thread needs more stereotypes
Girls cant PvP!
wait.....
Now look what you have done. Applebabe has moved this thread now. I have only been tempted with wow once but i cancelled downloading the client right away. Currently i am enjoying AOC and eve at the moment.
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ceaon
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.07.17 10:51:00 -
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Originally by: The PitBoss
CCP PLEASE forgive me for posting a picture to the forums BUT I Just wanted to illustrate WHY I DON'T PLAY WoW .... its because:
I COULD NEVER LOOK THIS GOOD IN A TOWEL.
http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs007.snc1/2843_70313542171_673652171_2124043_1635601_n.jpg
Image changed to URL. Eye Bleach is in Aisle 4. Zymurgist
hahahahahahahahahahha that is hilarious
Please resize your signature to the maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist
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Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
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Posted - 2009.07.18 04:19:00 -
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WoW is a horrible game. It's being dumbed down continuously to cater for an ever younger age group and classes are grossly imbalanced. After levelling your character you find that nobody wants or needs you because you're useless anyway, well done Blizzard and the BG's are totally pointless, arena is all bug abuse or teams with all Rogues. There is no such thing as elite PVP whenit comes to carebear PVP.
Blizzard are also like Apple, they don't care what you, the player, want, they know best and that's the end of it. People have to wait years and years for things they want to be implemented in the game because Blizzard are too busy thinking they're great.
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LUH 3472
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Posted - 2009.07.18 05:16:00 -
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haha good posts here but here he actually got a point with :
quote:
the world is pretty bleak.there are perhaps 1000-10000 different solar systems AND THEY ALL LOOK THE SAME! each system has a sun,some planets,moons and asteroid systems.
there are no black holes,no spacial anomalies,no supernovas,the first place looks like the other with the exception of the name,the security rating and the people who run it
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LUH 3472
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Posted - 2009.07.18 05:17:00 -
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Edited by: LUH 3472 on 18/07/2009 05:19:08
major flaw that i did not have with other games in space
it is indeed a bit sad since eve is cool but the atmosphaere really breaks if you have like always same system and the backgrounds are also same (jita bckground= deep 0.0 background)
well really breaks atmopshaere and can be done better
especially by ccp
you guys rock
now get to work
besides shouldnt that not also be fun for you????
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LUH 3472
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Posted - 2009.07.18 05:26:00 -
[124]
Edited by: LUH 3472 on 18/07/2009 05:26:33
Originally by: Xorth Adimus
Quote:
Needing a break from wow i tried a free trial of EVE Online and i was so mad after just 2 days that i didnt even finsh the damn trial.
It's basically a space mmog where you fly startrek like ships and npc hunt, trade, mine or mission run or build your own empires and stuff. Sounds fine and like a standard game right? Wrong..it's full of griefers....adult griefers.
I went looking for better asteroids in a slightly lower security system than i started in and within 5 seconds of me mining, pirate players warped in, killed me....and took my ore. FFS i'm just a newb in a crappy ship what was the point of that ****?
So I appear back in the station with a kill message and in the basic ship. So I fit some guns and go back this time without mining lasers so i can fight, i get to the system and ask them why they are killing newbies. They told me they didnt know and invited me to thier gang so i could warp to them for my stuff back.
I did then we started talking about the game, they were both in their late 20's and they asked my age. Before i even finished typing they locked me and killed my ship AGAIN. I escaped in my pod and warped from moon to moon trying to loose them but they kept chasing me trying to kill my pod too.
I logged off, **** it and im not going back ever. Worst thing is the developers and GM's ENCOURAGE griefing and say its part of the game!!!!!!????? People can kill and steal from you and they get a pat on the back from GM's? WTF!!
I'm all for concentual pvp but random killings and constant griefing is not fun.
Dont EVER play EVE Online, it's a griefers game far beyond any reasonable limit.
I will never stop playing Eve, for this very reason.
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Whilhelm Bloodmoon
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Posted - 2009.07.26 02:00:00 -
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As a person who plays both WoW and Eve, I feel qualified to say that there's no real way to compare the games. They are two totally different genres of MMO. WoW is a 3rd person action game. Eve is more of a life sim. Drastic differences in play style. WoW, for me is get in, blow stuff up, kill some people and MAYBE make some money in a short amount of time. Eve, on the other hand, is my lets sit down, think of what I want to do, cooling off after mowing 16 lawns and redoing a corporate garden spot in front of their office (landscaping company) and then, going out and finding some poor lone hulk in lowsec to make go boom. Action vs planning. Fun to do both, however, IMHO EVE is the better game.
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Cyprus Black
Caldari
4 wing
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2009.07.26 05:18:00 -
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Edited by: Cyprus Black on 26/07/2009 05:20:58
The thread title promised pathetic WoW lulz. I was not disappointed. Even the spelling errors, bad grammar, and poor sentence structure was included.
But for all its faults, I am thankful for WoW. If for anything than Blizzards ability to corral and contain most of the MMO morons.
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rValdez5987
Amarr
Imperial Guard.
Soldiers of Solitude
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Posted - 2009.07.26 06:29:00 -
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Anyone who tells me they are an active subscriber of WoW loses any and all credibility and I stop listening to them.
If you want magic and fantasy, play darkfall.
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jason hill
Caldari
Clan Shadow Wolf
Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2009.07.26 07:38:00 -
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I think i feel qualified to post in this thread ive been playing eve since 2003 ..and so did my missus .now i play eve and still do cos of the originality of the game "be who you want to be accept no comprimise" ... having watched the wife play WoW... and the constant grind fest that it is... and it is .
if it keeps her happy then im happy .i like eve she likes WoW.. eve and wow are two completely different games and cannot be compared in any way at all .
yes there probably are similarities but that is as far as it gets
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.07.26 08:04:00 -
[129]
Originally by: rValdez5987
Anyone who tells me they are an active subscriber of WoW loses any and all credibility and I stop listening to them.
If you want magic and fantasy, play darkfall.
Anything else is a kids game. Play a ****ing mans game.
Confirming that real men play internet games.
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