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Malcorian Vandsteidt
Invictus Mortalitus Paradox Initiative
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Posted - 2012.05.23 09:47:00 -
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Misanth wrote:Ok I just logged in and tested this. Can someone explain to me how I remove that annoying useless borders, when I have shift-clicked and got a new window?
Like; I fly my PvP ships with cargo open, so I can keep a look at my cap boosters, and restock ammo/boosters from cans in my cargo. But this new window is MASSIVE. It has a large blue border on top showing my cargospace, it has a [empty] border on the bottom that only list total amount/value of items on bottom right. This means my old small cargowindow that served a PvP purpose.. right now is complete bullshit. It either expands and start to cover other windows (scanner, overview, drone, HUD etc), or I will have to put this cargo window completely centered.. blocking my whole view.
Is there any way to remove those useless gigantic borders on top/bottom?
No because having your cargo open in pvp is not seen as a useful ability to CCP, to them having your cargo open is what miners do while mining, and this patch is supposed to discourage any activity in EvE except for PvP. |

Malice Redeemer
Redeemer Group Joint Venture Conglomerate
74
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Posted - 2012.05.23 09:53:00 -
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Misanth wrote:Ok I just logged in and tested this. Can someone explain to me how I remove that annoying useless borders, when I have shift-clicked and got a new window?
Like; I fly my PvP ships with cargo open, so I can keep a look at my cap boosters, and restock ammo/boosters from cans in my cargo. But this new window is MASSIVE. It has a large blue border on top showing my cargospace, it has a [empty] border on the bottom that only list total amount/value of items on bottom right. This means my old small cargowindow that served a PvP purpose.. right now is complete bullshit. It either expands and start to cover other windows (scanner, overview, drone, HUD etc), or I will have to put this cargo window completely centered.. blocking my whole view.
Is there any way to remove those useless gigantic borders on top/bottom?
no, and if soundwave is to be listened to asking for that is like asking for an on/off option for every single thing ingame. |

Keeves
Quality Control. Comic Mischief
0
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Posted - 2012.05.23 10:10:00 -
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New inventory layout is brilliant but with issues.
Shift + click, Station containers, and list view are your friend
Anything to do with POS's and you wanna shoot yourself Selecting and moving large amounts of anything slows down everything terribly
A few little tweaks and this will work fantastically
Haters gunna hate.
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March rabbit
Trojan Trolls Red Alliance
177
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Posted - 2012.05.23 10:13:00 -
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played a little with new system. Looks interesting.
Looks like i'm not too old to adapt to changes.
Unlike of many "amateur Eve players with higher IQ than in other MMO"  |

Malice Redeemer
Redeemer Group Joint Venture Conglomerate
75
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Posted - 2012.05.23 10:16:00 -
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Keeves wrote:New inventory layout is brilliant but with issues.
Shift + click, Station containers, and list view are your friend
Anything to do with POS's and you wanna shoot yourself Selecting and moving large amounts of anything slows down everything terribly
A few little tweaks and this will work fantastically
Haters gunna hate.
now if that worked for anything, oh thats right, it forgets all those windows you opened, or if it does remember they are just default item windows, fantastic |

Roime
Shiva Furnace Dead On Arrival Alliance
759
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Posted - 2012.05.23 10:16:00 -
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Malcorian Vandsteidt wrote:Look, the bottom line is this and anyone who was at or watched the CCP, Fanfest, knows the following:
CCP this summer is going in the direction of "war" which means that anything not pvp in game is going to be:
* Nerfed * Made More complicated * Made Less profitable * Force you to PvP to do it.
CCP's new direction is to make the game about ... PVP.
And nothing else.
This is stated pretty heavily if you listen to the dev speaking and read between the lines. this inventory change is Designed for "PVPers." Because it is 100% beneficial to them, while making it almost impossible for anyone who does any type of Industry to play.
Even the changes tot he wardec system are designed to encourage Grief corps to nuke Indy corps. or corps that do little to no pvp.
Interesting opinion, could you give an example? Any of your points will do.
Mining seems to be much more profitable these days, thanks to recent changes by CCP.
Gallente - the choice of the interstellar gentleman |

Malcorian Vandsteidt
Invictus Mortalitus Paradox Initiative
4
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Posted - 2012.05.23 10:32:00 -
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Roime wrote:Malcorian Vandsteidt wrote:Look, the bottom line is this and anyone who was at or watched the CCP, Fanfest, knows the following:
CCP this summer is going in the direction of "war" which means that anything not pvp in game is going to be:
* Nerfed * Made More complicated * Made Less profitable * Force you to PvP to do it.
CCP's new direction is to make the game about ... PVP.
And nothing else.
This is stated pretty heavily if you listen to the dev speaking and read between the lines. this inventory change is Designed for "PVPers." Because it is 100% beneficial to them, while making it almost impossible for anyone who does any type of Industry to play.
Even the changes tot he wardec system are designed to encourage Grief corps to nuke Indy corps. or corps that do little to no pvp. Interesting opinion, could you give an example? Any of your points will do. Mining seems to be much more profitable these days, thanks to recent changes by CCP.
Profitable yes, "IF" you can deal with the changes to the inventory system which make it almost impossible to efficiently manage your windows and cargo bays. I have several industrialists in my corp.. whoa re outraged at these changes because it now takes them 20 minuets to do something that used to take them 2.
And in Industry, Time is money. |

Nexx Z
Final Fortress Happy Tree Fiends
0
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Posted - 2012.05.23 10:42:00 -
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Shift+Click on the ship, container or anything to open it in a new window = SOLVES every single problem people are having and complaining about. Get over it and adapt... |

Malcorian Vandsteidt
Invictus Mortalitus Paradox Initiative
4
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Posted - 2012.05.23 10:59:00 -
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Nexx Z wrote:Shift+Click on the ship, container or anything to open it in a new window = SOLVES every single problem people are having and complaining about. Get over it and adapt...
No it doesn't because it doesn't save your selection, you have to spend 2-5 minuets every time you jump, dock or reload your UI for any reason setting everything back up. |

Arec Bardwin
Perkone Caldari State
464
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Posted - 2012.05.23 11:03:00 -
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I need an extra screen exclusively for inventory now  |
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
7116
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Posted - 2012.05.23 11:14:00 -
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Nexx Z wrote:Shift+Click on the ship, GǪsolves nothing because the inventory system inherently doesn't support multiple windows. Shift-clicking is a half-functioning hack; an illusion of a solution to a problem that should never have existed to begin with. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Shift-click does nothing GÇö why the Unified Inventory isn't ready for primetime. |

Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
579
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Posted - 2012.05.23 11:21:00 -
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Malice Redeemer wrote:Misanth wrote:Ok I just logged in and tested this. Can someone explain to me how I remove that annoying useless borders, when I have shift-clicked and got a new window?
Like; I fly my PvP ships with cargo open, so I can keep a look at my cap boosters, and restock ammo/boosters from cans in my cargo. But this new window is MASSIVE. It has a large blue border on top showing my cargospace, it has a [empty] border on the bottom that only list total amount/value of items on bottom right. This means my old small cargowindow that served a PvP purpose.. right now is complete bullshit. It either expands and start to cover other windows (scanner, overview, drone, HUD etc), or I will have to put this cargo window completely centered.. blocking my whole view.
Is there any way to remove those useless gigantic borders on top/bottom? no, and if soundwave is to be listened to asking for that is like asking for an on/off option for every single thing ingame.
Has he ever, at any point in history, posted anything with substance? That guy just trolls, jokes with and mocks players. Until he actually has anything valid to say he has zero credibility. Even GD-trolls on EVE-O post more content. But yeah, Pythagoras (I never remember her real name, it's something similar) has been replying the same sentiment on similar issues, it's one of those examples of CCP stating "we know best" (and then showing the Door in our face) that I mentioned above. Arrogance and narcissism seems to be their middle name. Too bad these guys don't realise they inherited a great game, with used-to-be-great-community-management. shiptoastin' liek a baws |

nomad Raholan
Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance
0
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Posted - 2012.05.23 14:14:00 -
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JEZEB wrote:My point was: Why take something that worked fine and change it for the worse?
How do people get paid to do this? MORE clicks in a game is never good. And who gives a crap about this being good for PVP? Have you PVP'ed with this change yet? It's not just the inventory that has changed. Go play, then come back with knowledge to discuss.
It's moronic to have something that is so modular, like this game, and then take something away and say, "Ok, now this isn't going to be so easy to customize."
I do like that the ship is now double clickable to make active, that rocks, but why have more than one menu for ships? Active or Non-Active? Really? All my ships are in the same hanger no matter what right?
Did nobody bring this type of thing up during development?
9 YEARS!! How do you still F S UP?!?! How do you manage to double click to make a ship active.. when i double click all it does is open that ships cargo and drone bays.
New inventory setup - IS A REALLY BAD IDEA |

Kagura Nikon
Emptiness. Zombie Ninja Space Bears
1
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Posted - 2012.05.23 15:07:00 -
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If i have 2 boxes in my table and I want to check what are in one box what I do? IU open THAT box. If i want to move from one box to the other? I open both boxes get stuff from one and put into the other. That is how real life works. THAT IS INTUITIVE!!!
That is how it worked!
So basically CCP changed soemthing that every human could oeprate by instinct into some stupid (sorry but it IS stupid) wet dream of another interface designer that clearly cannot understand that usability is NOT a compelx concept, its NOW what they learn at their universities (yes your graduation was a farce!!!) its not something gliorified. Interface usability is about a people that never used the interface sit on it and armed oonly of the natural concepts that are in the mind of a human being use it at the basic level without having to think or look for things. And also allowing peopel that use that interface a lot to be able to use it with minimal overwork or need of precise and extenuations interface operations. |
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