I just tried to double click on another ship in my hangar and it made it the active one, which confused me for a moment there as the active ship actually vanishes from the hangar now instead of being highlighted. Bad design idea that one as well.

Hey this is great Big smile I lol'd out loud

It's actually great (only because it doens't matter) for those who ONLY PvP EXCLUSIVELY.

We see how much STRONGER and with what direction the wind is blowing for sure............

It's actually great (only because it doens't matter) for those who ONLY PvP EXCLUSIVELY.

We see how much STRONGER and with what direction the wind is blowing for sure............

I just tried to double click on another ship in my hangar and it made it the active one, which confused me for a moment there as the active ship actually vanishes from the hangar now instead of being highlighted. Bad design idea that one as well.

I PVP exclusively and I think it's bollocks. Lern2Tinfoil.

WTF IS THIS ****...

Confusing crap made by noobs at CCP..

Get rid of this and get the old system back in.. This is not bad, IT IS REALLY BAD...

I love it, you guys should spend less time bitching on here and more time learning to play. noobs.

And which dipstick though it was a good idea to have that pointless 'To Captains Quarters' option on the menu when you right click on your ship? Especially just above 'Get Repair Quote'.

I love it, you guys should spend less time bitching on here and more time learning to play. noobs.

Jita Pop at 2467.

CCP Zulu on Local. Not going too well.

I love it, you guys should spend less time bitching on here and more time learning to play. noobs.

I dont like new inventory system, old was much better. ...developers must realise that game looks like M$ product now.

Cold truth is in words... IF YOU LIKE IT, U BUY IT.

Am getting used to it already (like it). Some bugs in it - for example empty a can in space and the window stays open, and items are visible inside it. Also sometimes if you've got your ship and a can in space and click on the ship node from the can, it doesn't show anything. Closing the window and opening it again sorts the problem. There's also an issue with it sometimes not remembering the window position for shift-click windows. All bugs that can be worked out.

All in all, it's a win :).

It always amazes me when something takes two steps back from functionality. This game already is counter intuitive to begin with, now we have to deal with EXTRA clicks to move around the menus to find crap in our inventories? Really? How many times must this have come up during development as a bad idea?

I can't believe huge mistakes to little things like this even happen. Who tested this and said, "Oh yeah, making the UI even clunkier is a grand idea, let us make the game less playable than it already is."

Good job, you get your paycheck you idiot that thought this idea up.

Now put it back the way it friggin' was or at least let me drag what I want to the bar.

How is making me click MORE going to HELP? It's what patches do, is make the game BETTER... oh wait, forgot what industry we're dealing with here.

My main posted from Day One about every single one of these issues and others, led mostly and amazingly by Tippia, filled that up to over 20 pages.

I will never ever again bother to help CCP avert a disaster. I'm beyond caring anymore for what they do.

It's actually great (only because it doens't matter) for those who ONLY PvP EXCLUSIVELY.

We see how much STRONGER and with what direction the wind is blowing for sure............

Just absolutely love this new inventory window.

Single window, where I can do all that I need to do. Great CCP!

Whiners are most likely bot users who are whining about CCP screwing their bots again.

It is exactly your experience of test server feedback for why I dont offer feedback on the test server anymore; Sad isn't it but like most people I already have a entire room in my house dedicated to rendering urine up a wall without doing the electronic version of it by offering common-sence and utterly valid feedback to test-server. Reason I suspect is that they assume somebody else is fixing it or that somebody else is responsible in dealing with it and ignore everything.

If they spent as much time reading feedback and logging it and taking it onboard as they do closing threads about people offering feedback then this would not of happened.

When you have a simple drag A to B facility and then change it into a 15 stack towers-of-hanoi with disc 13 missing and force people to play that every single time they wish to move a single item like A to B leading them to play A to Q to W to E to R to T to Y to to U to U to I to O to........to B then how hard is it to ignore everybodies feedback.



All I can say is that whoever handles the test server feedback is in need of a reality check as they have clearly embraced the Dunning Kruger Effect to a level that will only lead to this whole event being listed as an example for on that very wiki for generations to lament.

Just absolutely love this new inventory window.

Single window, where I can do all that I need to do. Great CCP!

Whiners are most likely bot users who are whining about CCP screwing their bots again.

So you never swap ships or keep items sorted at your main hangar?

...Hows that working out for ya?

You must not need to do much. Everytime i come into the hanger, mine with secure containers, loot wrecks, salvage, or anything else that has to do with items, I have to take 30-60 seconds to open all the windows i need to do the job. I mean come on... everytime I right click a wreck and select open cargo, it open MY cargo, not the wrecks... and if i do not want to loot all, I have to click the arrows to open the index, shift click a second window open so I can transfer the items I do want to take.

Everything else in the expansion seems to be top knotch, but lose the new inventory system or at the very least give us options (save current open windows to location/action, revert to the old system, etc.).

Mabe instead of complaining you should have set up the test server before this came out. Looked at the new stuff and sent feedback. Why do you think the test server is for?

Yea I understand what they were trying to do but in all honestly for someone like me who goes system to system with his Orca and 5 ships inside of it with all different types of cargo, its a nightmare.

Yes, lets put every single inventory, many with their own functions and needs in the same standard inventory screen.
This inventory feels to me like Windows 8 Metro feels to Windows 7.

It's clunky, awkward and hard to manage but hey, at least it looks good right?

I think that the above posts highlight one of the main issues that people are confused by.

Yes, you can use the tree to open different storage/cargo area's... BUT THAT IS NOT ITS MAIN PURPOSE.

The primary use of the tree is to drag things to so that you dont' need to open other cargo area's.

I think that the above posts highlight one of the main issues that people are confused by.

Yes, you can use the tree to open different storage/cargo area's... BUT THAT IS NOT ITS MAIN PURPOSE.

The primary use of the tree is to drag things to so that you dont' need to open other cargo area's.

Get it in your head, most of us have a certain way of doing things that now we cannot do without tripling how many clicks it takes to do something. CCP has successfully funneled the way we need to move stuff around in our cargoholds and stations to one way of doing things. Sure, dragging stuff to the tree works, but why can't I open all nine of my containers in my Mast or Mammoth to do a quick load on an ore pickup?

I mean, really, it's not hard to figure out that this is a bullsh1t addition to a system that worked BETTER before the patch.

Go troll someplace else, I'm sure there is somewhere else you'd be more useful. Not here.

Highlight the wreck in your overview, select the option to go open it from the one click menu at the top of the overview.

Watch in amazement as your ship flies over to it an magically opens it up for you in your inventory window.

Hit loot all and you are done (or repeat for the next wreck).

If you only want grab some of the items, highlight them in the magic window and drag them 1/2 inch to the tree entry for your cargo hold.

This involves far LESS clicks than the old way.

Stop doing things out of habit. Work smarter, not harder.

I believe you have it just the reverse though... the new set-up is harder, not smarter.

mine seems to open every time I enter a new system

The new "Way" can't even remember my configuredd window positions in station. Next dockup they are gone.

You are a CCP sycophant or Cheerleader alt. Fi.

I adapted easily to the new inventory UI. I like it.

I love it, you guys should spend less time bitching on here and more time learning to play. noobs.

Press escape, click reset setting tab and reset windows...

I adapted easily to the new inventory UI. I like it.

The "issue" is the lack of higher level brain function with most players in EVE. The new inventory system has a few bugs but otherwise it is a massive improvement over the old system.

It was annoying on the test server and its annoying on the live server.

Fail inventory is fail.

HOWEVER.

I like the idea of filtering what you have in the manner you have presented it. The tree system would be handier for those that have tonnes of containers full of stuff.

Wasted 1gig of internet download IMHO, I could of got a good quality **** movie for that

Then open MORE WINDOWS, you're not being forced to use the big one, you can keep it closed if you want and just shift click everything.

The only issue it has is it won't save where my windows were open!



ding ding ding , you win

It's actually great (only because it doens't matter) for those who ONLY PvP EXCLUSIVELY.
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disagree, I find this new system intolerable, I want to change ships and mods quickly to mobilize on multiple clients, now it takes me 1 minute instead of 15 seconds.

I'm quite pleased I've been/am occupied by Diablo 3 atm.

Get it in your head, most of us have a certain way of doing things that now we cannot do without tripling how many clicks it takes to do something. CCP has successfully funneled the way we need to move stuff around in our cargoholds and stations to one way of doing things. Sure, dragging stuff to the tree works, but why can't I open all nine of my containers in my Mast or Mammoth to do a quick load on an ore pickup?

I mean, really, it's not hard to figure out that this is a bullsh1t addition to a system that worked BETTER before the patch.

Go troll someplace else, I'm sure there is somewhere else you'd be more useful. Not here.

nice, maybe I should give that a try.

The main problem is that CCP is forcing something on players. One thing we know for sure that players love, is when we can modify our clients/UI the way we want it. Layouts and item management is quite a big part there. But CCP, in their almighty wisdom, loves to a) enforce one system on each and everyone b) enforce systems that is more appealing on a 800x640 resolution Win 3.1 system, and not modern high resolution graphics c) ignore valid feedback that is posted on test-forums.

The root to this cause is not the UI and this single issue. It's the mentality at CCP that "we are great, we know best". It comes from upper management, and spread like a plauge through the whole company. If they would be more humble, and also start to you know, just consider that people might not like it the way you do - why not make more options/let us modify the UI more? then there would be no issues.

I'm not looking forward to dock into one of my 'ship-hubs'. Hundreds of ships, 500-750 different unique items. I always keep my ships cargo open too to see the present state of 'consumables' (ammo, nanite paste, cap boosters, drugs etc). Fortunately I'm busy with Diablo 3 and havn't had to experience this junk yet, but based on feedback posted - not even having it update immediately is a major, major, concern. That's a must, to begin with. How we feel about the utility or not, that's a separate issue. And as I stated above, why CCP won't even consider 'alternative' setups (i.e. this new system could've been optional, for those who wanted it), that's a major problem we see time and again with CCP.

Ok I just logged in and tested this. Can someone explain to me how I remove that annoying useless borders, when I have shift-clicked and got a new window?

Like; I fly my PvP ships with cargo open, so I can keep a look at my cap boosters, and restock ammo/boosters from cans in my cargo. But this new window is MASSIVE. It has a large blue border on top showing my cargospace, it has a [empty] border on the bottom that only list total amount/value of items on bottom right. This means my old small cargowindow that served a PvP purpose.. right now is complete bullshit. It either expands and start to cover other windows (scanner, overview, drone, HUD etc), or I will have to put this cargo window completely centered.. blocking my whole view.

Is there any way to remove those useless gigantic borders on top/bottom?

Ok I just logged in and tested this. Can someone explain to me how I remove that annoying useless borders, when I have shift-clicked and got a new window?

Like; I fly my PvP ships with cargo open, so I can keep a look at my cap boosters, and restock ammo/boosters from cans in my cargo. But this new window is MASSIVE. It has a large blue border on top showing my cargospace, it has a [empty] border on the bottom that only list total amount/value of items on bottom right. This means my old small cargowindow that served a PvP purpose.. right now is complete bullshit. It either expands and start to cover other windows (scanner, overview, drone, HUD etc), or I will have to put this cargo window completely centered.. blocking my whole view.

Is there any way to remove those useless gigantic borders on top/bottom?

New inventory layout is brilliant but with issues.

Shift + click, Station containers, and list view are your friend

Anything to do with POS's and you wanna shoot yourself
Selecting and moving large amounts of anything slows down everything terribly

A few little tweaks and this will work fantastically

Haters gunna hate.

Look, the bottom line is this and anyone who was at or watched the CCP, Fanfest, knows the following:

CCP this summer is going in the direction of "war" which means that anything not pvp in game is going to be:

* Nerfed
* Made More complicated
* Made Less profitable
* Force you to PvP to do it.

CCP's new direction is to make the game about ... PVP.

And nothing else.

This is stated pretty heavily if you listen to the dev speaking and read between the lines. this inventory change is Designed for "PVPers." Because it is 100% beneficial to them, while making it almost impossible for anyone who does any type of Industry to play.

Even the changes tot he wardec system are designed to encourage Grief corps to nuke Indy corps. or corps that do little to no pvp.

Interesting opinion, could you give an example? Any of your points will do.

Mining seems to be much more profitable these days, thanks to recent changes by CCP.

Shift+Click on the ship, container or anything to open it in a new window = SOLVES every single problem people are having and complaining about. Get over it and adapt...

Shift+Click on the ship,

no, and if soundwave is to be listened to asking for that is like asking for an on/off option for every single thing ingame.

My point was: Why take something that worked fine and change it for the worse?

How do people get paid to do this? MORE clicks in a game is never good. And who gives a crap about this being good for PVP? Have you PVP'ed with this change yet? It's not just the inventory that has changed. Go play, then come back with knowledge to discuss.

It's moronic to have something that is so modular, like this game, and then take something away and say, "Ok, now this isn't going to be so easy to customize."

I do like that the ship is now double clickable to make active, that rocks, but why have more than one menu for ships? Active or Non-Active? Really? All my ships are in the same hanger no matter what right?

Did nobody bring this type of thing up during development?

9 YEARS!! How do you still F S UP?!?!