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Clay101	Posted - 2004.09.26 05:23:00 - [1] ok ... this is weird and i can't stand it: ANY n00b can go out and shoot someone and lose sec status and be like "Ya look at me i'm a pirate and i'm kick@$$" and this is not cool for the real pirates who can actually kill something worthwhile. It used to take some skill to lose sec status and you used to be able to be proud of your negative sec status, now, it's a shame that anyone and everyone can get a low sec status ... check this out Pre-Castor- it took me a week to get my sec status down to -1.4 and i was shooting at people like crazy and killin pods (of course i did this with some friends) After Castor - it took me less than 3 hours to get my sec status from -1.4 to -3.9 ... only killed 2-3 frigs - 2 cruisers - and almsot got a BS solo camping Klingt gate NOW, tell me that isn't a HUGE difference in time/status loss What the duece dude ... it is no longer an honor to have a low sec status because it is so easy to obtain ... plz ... make it an honor once again ... It takes forever for you to gain sec status, WHY??????????
Clay101	Posted - 2004.09.26 05:23:00 - [2] ok ... this is weird and i can't stand it: ANY n00b can go out and shoot someone and lose sec status and be like "Ya look at me i'm a pirate and i'm kick@$$" and this is not cool for the real pirates who can actually kill something worthwhile. It used to take some skill to lose sec status and you used to be able to be proud of your negative sec status, now, it's a shame that anyone and everyone can get a low sec status ... check this out Pre-Castor- it took me a week to get my sec status down to -1.4 and i was shooting at people like crazy and killin pods (of course i did this with some friends) After Castor - it took me less than 3 hours to get my sec status from -1.4 to -3.9 ... only killed 2-3 frigs - 2 cruisers - and almsot got a BS solo camping Klingt gate NOW, tell me that isn't a HUGE difference in time/status loss What the duece dude ... it is no longer an honor to have a low sec status because it is so easy to obtain ... plz ... make it an honor once again ... It takes forever for you to gain sec status, WHY??????????
S'Daria	Posted - 2004.09.26 05:35:00 - [3] They should have an event that we could temporarily bribe our high standing 'pirate' agents to modify our Security Status for a fixed amount of time.
S'Daria	Posted - 2004.09.26 05:35:00 - [4] They should have an event that we could temporarily bribe our high standing 'pirate' agents to modify our Security Status for a fixed amount of time.
Clay101	Posted - 2004.09.26 05:47:00 - [5] Edited by: Clay101 on 26/09/2004 05:57:35 and the purpose of that would be? like seriously ... why not just put teh sec status loss/gain back to how it was in pre-castor ... :)
Clay101	Posted - 2004.09.26 05:47:00 - [6] Edited by: Clay101 on 26/09/2004 05:57:35 and the purpose of that would be? like seriously ... why not just put teh sec status loss/gain back to how it was in pre-castor ... :)
F'nog	Posted - 2004.09.26 06:02:00 - [7] Interesting topic. I thought this would be just another whine, but it raises some interesting issues. It'll be interesting to see where this goes.
F'nog	Posted - 2004.09.26 06:02:00 - [8] Interesting topic. I thought this would be just another whine, but it raises some interesting issues. It'll be interesting to see where this goes.
MadGaz	Posted - 2004.09.26 08:32:00 - [9] If you've got a bs, its easy to get your sec back, just chain bs for a few days. Took me on and off 2 days to get from -2.1 to 0.0. ------------------------------------------
MadGaz	Posted - 2004.09.26 08:32:00 - [10] If you've got a bs, its easy to get your sec back, just chain bs for a few days. Took me on and off 2 days to get from -2.1 to 0.0. ------------------------------------------

Siddy	Posted - 2004.09.26 09:16:00 - [11] Not every Carebear pirat have access to 0.0 NPC areas - or know how to do it. We need some way to get sec up in empire - so our fellow whining empire dwellers get some hope to get sec up -------------------------------------------
Siddy	Posted - 2004.09.26 09:16:00 - [12] Not every Carebear pirat have access to 0.0 NPC areas - or know how to do it. We need some way to get sec up in empire - so our fellow whining empire dwellers get some hope to get sec up -------------------------------------------
Xtro 2	Posted - 2004.09.26 10:21:00 - [13] Originally by: MadGaz If you've got a bs, its easy to get your sec back, just chain bs for a few days. Took me on and off 2 days to get from -2.1 to 0.0. Unfortunatly, joe random average whos new to the game cannot hope to do that for some considerable time, the old system of daily sec gains should be re-introduced, currently only mid/old players hope to gain some sec in 0.0, newer ones are doomed to failure, or god forbid, destroying cr-appy cruisers in .1 space for an eternity. __________________________________________ Hell is nothing more than an office with fluorecent lights.
Xtro 2	Posted - 2004.09.26 10:21:00 - [14] Originally by: MadGaz If you've got a bs, its easy to get your sec back, just chain bs for a few days. Took me on and off 2 days to get from -2.1 to 0.0. Unfortunatly, joe random average whos new to the game cannot hope to do that for some considerable time, the old system of daily sec gains should be re-introduced, currently only mid/old players hope to gain some sec in 0.0, newer ones are doomed to failure, or god forbid, destroying cr-appy cruisers in .1 space for an eternity. __________________________________________ Hell is nothing more than an office with fluorecent lights.
Toastmaster	Posted - 2004.09.26 11:05:00 - [15] I can agree with that its fast to loose sec.. When you gain it you gain every 15 min but when you loose you loose for everything you do.. Even loose for taking the warp scramber off a guy who have payed a toll I went from 0 > -9 on 2 hours camping a gate which i think is to quick if you think of the time it takes to get from -9 > 0 "viper zulu > toast has killed our whole corporation ships at least once"
Toastmaster	Posted - 2004.09.26 11:05:00 - [16] I can agree with that its fast to loose sec.. When you gain it you gain every 15 min but when you loose you loose for everything you do.. Even loose for taking the warp scramber off a guy who have payed a toll I went from 0 > -9 on 2 hours camping a gate which i think is to quick if you think of the time it takes to get from -9 > 0 "viper zulu > toast has killed our whole corporation ships at least once"
Lifewire	Posted - 2004.09.26 11:09:00 - [17] I want sec hits in 0.0!!! Always have go to 0.4 an kill some miners to keep my -10.
Lifewire	Posted - 2004.09.26 11:09:00 - [18] I want sec hits in 0.0!!! Always have go to 0.4 an kill some miners to keep my -10.
Barth3zzzNL	Posted - 2004.09.26 12:10:00 - [19] I dislike podding because it gives a -12.5% sec hit. Itll put at -10 in no time and then where do i go? Back up...? --------------------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Barth3zzzNL	Posted - 2004.09.26 12:10:00 - [20] I dislike podding because it gives a -12.5% sec hit. Itll put at -10 in no time and then where do i go? Back up...? --------------------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]

Nafri	Posted - 2004.09.26 12:19:00 - [21] Originally by: Barth3zzzNL I dislike podding because it gives a -12.5% sec hit. Itll put at -10 in no time and then where do i go? Back up...? hey im still only at -8.7, too bad i will never be able to do agents missions now Wanna fly with me?
Nafri	Posted - 2004.09.26 12:19:00 - [22] Originally by: Barth3zzzNL I dislike podding because it gives a -12.5% sec hit. Itll put at -10 in no time and then where do i go? Back up...? hey im still only at -8.7, too bad i will never be able to do agents missions now Wanna fly with me?
AvanCade	Posted - 2004.09.26 12:41:00 - [23] Originally by: Clay101 ok ... this is weird and i can't stand it: ANY n00b can go out and shoot someone and lose sec status and be like "Ya look at me i'm a pirate and i'm kick@$$" and this is not cool for the real pirates who can actually kill something worthwhile. It used to take some skill to lose sec status and you used to be able to be proud of your negative sec status, now, it's a shame that anyone and everyone can get a low sec status ... check this out Pre-Castor- it took me a week to get my sec status down to -1.4 and i was shooting at people like crazy and killin pods (of course i did this with some friends) After Castor - it took me less than 3 hours to get my sec status from -1.4 to -3.9 ... only killed 2-3 frigs - 2 cruisers - and almsot got a BS solo camping Klingt gate NOW, tell me that isn't a HUGE difference in time/status loss What the duece dude ... it is no longer an honor to have a low sec status because it is so easy to obtain ... plz ... make it an honor once again ... It takes forever for you to gain sec status, WHY?????????? Too easy to lose, too hard to gain. Perfect. Keeps the pirates out of empire .
AvanCade	Posted - 2004.09.26 12:41:00 - [24] Originally by: Clay101 ok ... this is weird and i can't stand it: ANY n00b can go out and shoot someone and lose sec status and be like "Ya look at me i'm a pirate and i'm kick@$$" and this is not cool for the real pirates who can actually kill something worthwhile. It used to take some skill to lose sec status and you used to be able to be proud of your negative sec status, now, it's a shame that anyone and everyone can get a low sec status ... check this out Pre-Castor- it took me a week to get my sec status down to -1.4 and i was shooting at people like crazy and killin pods (of course i did this with some friends) After Castor - it took me less than 3 hours to get my sec status from -1.4 to -3.9 ... only killed 2-3 frigs - 2 cruisers - and almsot got a BS solo camping Klingt gate NOW, tell me that isn't a HUGE difference in time/status loss What the duece dude ... it is no longer an honor to have a low sec status because it is so easy to obtain ... plz ... make it an honor once again ... It takes forever for you to gain sec status, WHY?????????? Too easy to lose, too hard to gain. Perfect. Keeps the pirates out of empire .
Keenon	Posted - 2004.09.26 13:05:00 - [25] Originally by: Clay101 ok ... this is weird and i can't stand it: ANY n00b can go out and shoot someone and lose sec status and be like "Ya look at me i'm a pirate and i'm kick@$$" and this is not cool for the real pirates who can actually kill something worthwhile. It used to take some skill to lose sec status and you used to be able to be proud of your negative sec status, now, it's a shame that anyone and everyone can get a low sec status ... check this out Pre-Castor- it took me a week to get my sec status down to -1.4 and i was shooting at people like crazy and killin pods (of course i did this with some friends) After Castor - it took me less than 3 hours to get my sec status from -1.4 to -3.9 ... only killed 2-3 frigs - 2 cruisers - and almsot got a BS solo camping Klingt gate NOW, tell me that isn't a HUGE difference in time/status loss What the duece dude ... it is no longer an honor to have a low sec status because it is so easy to obtain ... plz ... make it an honor once again ... It takes forever for you to gain sec status, WHY?????????? U are quite right m8 im curently -9.5 and iv been like this since way b4 castor. any i remember it took me weeks of poding to get this low =============================================== Help keep carebear population under control!!!! POD U LATER
Keenon	Posted - 2004.09.26 13:05:00 - [26] Originally by: Clay101 ok ... this is weird and i can't stand it: ANY n00b can go out and shoot someone and lose sec status and be like "Ya look at me i'm a pirate and i'm kick@$$" and this is not cool for the real pirates who can actually kill something worthwhile. It used to take some skill to lose sec status and you used to be able to be proud of your negative sec status, now, it's a shame that anyone and everyone can get a low sec status ... check this out Pre-Castor- it took me a week to get my sec status down to -1.4 and i was shooting at people like crazy and killin pods (of course i did this with some friends) After Castor - it took me less than 3 hours to get my sec status from -1.4 to -3.9 ... only killed 2-3 frigs - 2 cruisers - and almsot got a BS solo camping Klingt gate NOW, tell me that isn't a HUGE difference in time/status loss What the duece dude ... it is no longer an honor to have a low sec status because it is so easy to obtain ... plz ... make it an honor once again ... It takes forever for you to gain sec status, WHY?????????? U are quite right m8 im curently -9.5 and iv been like this since way b4 castor. any i remember it took me weeks of poding to get this low =============================================== Help keep carebear population under control!!!! POD U LATER
Zypho	Posted - 2004.09.26 13:54:00 - [27] Who ever said it took them 2 days to go from -2.1 > 0.0 must play about 15 hours a day and kill npc the whole time. Eve in 0.0 with the bs rats it takes time to go back up. And I agree it is stupid how its so easy to get low but so hard to get up. I think its eves way saying DONT PIRATE, But oh well we all got different ways playing games * Proud Member Of The Curse Alliance *
Zypho	Posted - 2004.09.26 13:54:00 - [28] Who ever said it took them 2 days to go from -2.1 > 0.0 must play about 15 hours a day and kill npc the whole time. Eve in 0.0 with the bs rats it takes time to go back up. And I agree it is stupid how its so easy to get low but so hard to get up. I think its eves way saying DONT PIRATE, But oh well we all got different ways playing games * Proud Member Of The Curse Alliance *
Shadowsword	Posted - 2004.09.26 14:21:00 - [29] Security statut is like trust: it takes a long time to gain it, and very little time to lose it. Why should it be different?
Shadowsword	Posted - 2004.09.26 14:21:00 - [30] Security statut is like trust: it takes a long time to gain it, and very little time to lose it. Why should it be different?

Elisium Dammar	Posted - 2004.09.26 15:17:00 - [31] From -9.8 to -1.5 in 2 weekends :) and an insane ammount of loot and npc bountys
Elisium Dammar	Posted - 2004.09.26 15:17:00 - [32] From -9.8 to -1.5 in 2 weekends :) and an insane ammount of loot and npc bountys
Mongo Peck	Posted - 2004.09.26 15:17:00 - [33] I would like to see pirates having to choose ........ once below -5.0 you cannot go back and become a professional pirate and have some benefits with the Pirate NPC's. At the moment you can gain +2.0 sec Npc'ing in a single day. Mongo speaks !!
Mongo Peck	Posted - 2004.09.26 15:17:00 - [34] I would like to see pirates having to choose ........ once below -5.0 you cannot go back and become a professional pirate and have some benefits with the Pirate NPC's. At the moment you can gain +2.0 sec Npc'ing in a single day. Mongo speaks !!
Makeh	Posted - 2004.09.26 16:11:00 - [35] Originally by: MadGaz If you've got a bs, its easy to get your sec back, just chain bs for a few days. Took me on and off 2 days to get from -2.1 to 0.0. Im -10 i was thinking of npcing to get my sec down but it would take me around a month to get my sec to under -2, and thats just a waste of time. bring back those agents that u can bribe ------------------- QUOTES OF TEH MONTH Loadmaster > its players like you that makes me want to quit EVE Masta Killa > I'll insta to agil and get my intie and then come back and pod you
Makeh	Posted - 2004.09.26 16:11:00 - [36] Originally by: MadGaz If you've got a bs, its easy to get your sec back, just chain bs for a few days. Took me on and off 2 days to get from -2.1 to 0.0. Im -10 i was thinking of npcing to get my sec down but it would take me around a month to get my sec to under -2, and thats just a waste of time. bring back those agents that u can bribe ------------------- QUOTES OF TEH MONTH Loadmaster > its players like you that makes me want to quit EVE Masta Killa > I'll insta to agil and get my intie and then come back and pod you
Zypho	Posted - 2004.09.26 21:39:00 - [37] I would like to see someone go from 0.0 to 2.0 in a single day without going into 0.0 * Proud Member Of The Curse Alliance *
Zypho	Posted - 2004.09.26 21:39:00 - [38] I would like to see someone go from 0.0 to 2.0 in a single day without going into 0.0 * Proud Member Of The Curse Alliance *
Nafri	Posted - 2004.09.26 23:46:00 - [39] Originally by: Elisium Dammar From -9.8 to -1.5 in 2 weekends :) and an insane ammount of loot and npc bountys but npcing is da boring Wanna fly with me?
Nafri	Posted - 2004.09.26 23:46:00 - [40] Originally by: Elisium Dammar From -9.8 to -1.5 in 2 weekends :) and an insane ammount of loot and npc bountys but npcing is da boring Wanna fly with me?

hatchette	Posted - 2004.09.27 09:07:00 - [41] I agree that security status drop is a bit too big.. And i also agree that security status drop should be also in 0.0.. this would also make most of alliance members outlaws - which is good! If carebears are killed when going to their alliance space, they should be killed in empire.
hatchette	Posted - 2004.09.27 09:07:00 - [42] I agree that security status drop is a bit too big.. And i also agree that security status drop should be also in 0.0.. this would also make most of alliance members outlaws - which is good! If carebears are killed when going to their alliance space, they should be killed in empire.
Elisium Dammar	Posted - 2004.09.27 09:44:00 - [43] Originally by: hatchette I agree that security status drop is a bit too big.. And i also agree that security status drop should be also in 0.0.. this would also make most of alliance members outlaws - which is good! If carebears are killed when going to their alliance space, they should be killed in empire. Errrrrr??? wtf? way to kill that game. Is it not the intention to encorage players to secure their own space? player owned police force..stations.. etc etc For carebears Empire police seem to be the be all and end all.
Elisium Dammar	Posted - 2004.09.27 09:44:00 - [44] Originally by: hatchette I agree that security status drop is a bit too big.. And i also agree that security status drop should be also in 0.0.. this would also make most of alliance members outlaws - which is good! If carebears are killed when going to their alliance space, they should be killed in empire. Errrrrr??? wtf? way to kill that game. Is it not the intention to encorage players to secure their own space? player owned police force..stations.. etc etc For carebears Empire police seem to be the be all and end all.
OmegaTron	Posted - 2004.09.27 11:48:00 - [45] i would like to know when and why CCP has boosted the security hit for when you pod someone??!! was = -5.0% now = -12.4%. thats abit to much ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming....
OmegaTron	Posted - 2004.09.27 11:48:00 - [46] i would like to know when and why CCP has boosted the security hit for when you pod someone??!! was = -5.0% now = -12.4%. thats abit to much ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming....
throbbinnoggin	Posted - 2004.09.27 17:19:00 - [47] Originally by: Clay101 ok ... this is weird and i can't stand it: ANY n00b can go out and shoot someone and lose sec status and be like "Ya look at me i'm a pirate and i'm kick@$$" and this is not cool for the real pirates who can actually kill something worthwhile. It used to take some skill to lose sec status and you used to be able to be proud of your negative sec status, now, it's a shame that anyone and everyone can get a low sec status ... check this out Pre-Castor- it took me a week to get my sec status down to -1.4 and i was shooting at people like crazy and killin pods (of course i did this with some friends) After Castor - it took me less than 3 hours to get my sec status from -1.4 to -3.9 ... only killed 2-3 frigs - 2 cruisers - and almsot got a BS solo camping Klingt gate NOW, tell me that isn't a HUGE difference in time/status loss What the duece dude ... it is no longer an honor to have a low sec status because it is so easy to obtain ... plz ... make it an honor once again ... It takes forever for you to gain sec status, WHY?????????? Maybe implement a system where security hits taken depends on the ship destroyed or attacked much like gaining status is that npc bs's give you the biggest gain. For example based upon existing and soon to be existing ships in game: BS = high hit Assault cruiser = moderate/high hit Logistic cruiser = moderate/high hit Cruiser = moderate hit Industrial = moderate hit Assault frigate = low/moderate hit Covert ops frigate = low/moderate hit Interceptor = low/moderate hit Frigate = low hit I don't know what numbers to use to balance (I've gotten to hate this word as of late) this out but I'm sure this could be done. And -12.5% for a podkill??? Even this carebear thinks thats a little too high. Maybe -10%? Tis better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt. 'Abraham Lincoln'
throbbinnoggin	Posted - 2004.09.27 17:19:00 - [48] Originally by: Clay101 ok ... this is weird and i can't stand it: ANY n00b can go out and shoot someone and lose sec status and be like "Ya look at me i'm a pirate and i'm kick@$$" and this is not cool for the real pirates who can actually kill something worthwhile. It used to take some skill to lose sec status and you used to be able to be proud of your negative sec status, now, it's a shame that anyone and everyone can get a low sec status ... check this out Pre-Castor- it took me a week to get my sec status down to -1.4 and i was shooting at people like crazy and killin pods (of course i did this with some friends) After Castor - it took me less than 3 hours to get my sec status from -1.4 to -3.9 ... only killed 2-3 frigs - 2 cruisers - and almsot got a BS solo camping Klingt gate NOW, tell me that isn't a HUGE difference in time/status loss What the duece dude ... it is no longer an honor to have a low sec status because it is so easy to obtain ... plz ... make it an honor once again ... It takes forever for you to gain sec status, WHY?????????? Maybe implement a system where security hits taken depends on the ship destroyed or attacked much like gaining status is that npc bs's give you the biggest gain. For example based upon existing and soon to be existing ships in game: BS = high hit Assault cruiser = moderate/high hit Logistic cruiser = moderate/high hit Cruiser = moderate hit Industrial = moderate hit Assault frigate = low/moderate hit Covert ops frigate = low/moderate hit Interceptor = low/moderate hit Frigate = low hit I don't know what numbers to use to balance (I've gotten to hate this word as of late) this out but I'm sure this could be done. And -12.5% for a podkill??? Even this carebear thinks thats a little too high. Maybe -10%? Tis better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt. 'Abraham Lincoln'
DJTheBaron	Posted - 2004.09.28 08:44:00 - [49] Edited by: DJTheBaron on 28/09/2004 08:47:51 your talking about your characters status in the eyes of the law, concord it doesnt take much to get in trouble with the law, and be painted for life a dirty rotten scoundrel and it does take some time before you are looked on by the law as a law enforcing indivudual, even if you are a bounty hunter in real life but generally, no matter your high standing with the authorities, yhou can get away with very few misconducts legally, and you mess up once your back down to a negative standing so why should high sec players be above the law for a few podkills until their at a minus again, and why should pirates be able to instandly redeem themselves from scumbags to saints? There really is only one soloution, everyone bvecome a scumbag, and lets invade empire and abolish concord once and for all. And let the faction standings and navys decide whos fair game, and whos above the law. Edit: we really do need a few empire faction wars that we can take a part in, otherwise there is no point to them being bitter rivials/enemies and us working for their navys. i want to go to galante space and wreck up the place, then bring a few mimitar to trounce those sneaky little amarians __________________________________________________ Scum, your all scum.
DJTheBaron	Posted - 2004.09.28 08:44:00 - [50] Edited by: DJTheBaron on 28/09/2004 08:47:51 your talking about your characters status in the eyes of the law, concord it doesnt take much to get in trouble with the law, and be painted for life a dirty rotten scoundrel and it does take some time before you are looked on by the law as a law enforcing indivudual, even if you are a bounty hunter in real life but generally, no matter your high standing with the authorities, yhou can get away with very few misconducts legally, and you mess up once your back down to a negative standing so why should high sec players be above the law for a few podkills until their at a minus again, and why should pirates be able to instandly redeem themselves from scumbags to saints? There really is only one soloution, everyone bvecome a scumbag, and lets invade empire and abolish concord once and for all. And let the faction standings and navys decide whos fair game, and whos above the law. Edit: we really do need a few empire faction wars that we can take a part in, otherwise there is no point to them being bitter rivials/enemies and us working for their navys. i want to go to galante space and wreck up the place, then bring a few mimitar to trounce those sneaky little amarians __________________________________________________ Scum, your all scum.

Braddict	Posted - 2004.09.28 23:12:00 - [51] One of the major flaws in EVE is the overly excessive involvment of 'ub3r' npcs such as Concord & Sentry guns along with the new security status policies that basically ban you from 0.5 & up empire space once you fall below -5.0 sec status, becoming an 'Outlaw'. CCP should be creating more PvP career paths instead of trying to make the only viable one atm, Pirate, more difficult to exist by making Concord & Sentry Guns more powerful. Instead, CCP should have created a bounty hunter pvp career path for players to circumvent piracy themselves, instead of taking the easy way out by buffing up NPCs. EVEs economy is mostly player driven with very little, hardly noticeble, npc involvement. I don't see why they can't do the same in regards to pvp. It would make EVE alot more interesting & dynamic.
Braddict	Posted - 2004.09.28 23:12:00 - [52] One of the major flaws in EVE is the overly excessive involvment of 'ub3r' npcs such as Concord & Sentry guns along with the new security status policies that basically ban you from 0.5 & up empire space once you fall below -5.0 sec status, becoming an 'Outlaw'. CCP should be creating more PvP career paths instead of trying to make the only viable one atm, Pirate, more difficult to exist by making Concord & Sentry Guns more powerful. Instead, CCP should have created a bounty hunter pvp career path for players to circumvent piracy themselves, instead of taking the easy way out by buffing up NPCs. EVEs economy is mostly player driven with very little, hardly noticeble, npc involvement. I don't see why they can't do the same in regards to pvp. It would make EVE alot more interesting & dynamic.
Clay101	Posted - 2004.09.29 14:45:00 - [53] well, i didn't know that pod killing was up to -12.5% but i know i don't kill them anymore in Empire ... and that whole bit about "losing sec status in 0.0" WTF are you on bro? THAT is the whole point about fighting in 0.0 ... no sec loss, if people were able to lose sec status EVERYWHERE then NO one would ever fight except the ones that don't care bout their sec status or are to far gone to even care because they can't stand NPC'ing ... and as for NPC'ing, i don't enjoy it, you know what they do and how to stop their attacks and all that, people are different, i can fight someone and blow up their ship, go back out with the same set-up and they can come back in the same ship and a different set-up and blow me up, NPC's can't do that, they all have generally the same set-up (for each type i mean) ... so ... just put it back to how it used to be, like it was in Pre-Castor NO, i'm not t3h ub3r C4R3B34R, i'm just trying to say it's too easy to be evil ... you're getting people to think that just because you have a negative sec status they are HARDCORE, when in all actuallity that person may have just blown up someone in a belt mining in a frigate when they have just bought their first cruiser. Come on ... make it an art, a skill, an honor, to be a pirate again. THAT is all i'm asking. Thank You, Clay101
Clay101	Posted - 2004.09.29 14:45:00 - [54] well, i didn't know that pod killing was up to -12.5% but i know i don't kill them anymore in Empire ... and that whole bit about "losing sec status in 0.0" WTF are you on bro? THAT is the whole point about fighting in 0.0 ... no sec loss, if people were able to lose sec status EVERYWHERE then NO one would ever fight except the ones that don't care bout their sec status or are to far gone to even care because they can't stand NPC'ing ... and as for NPC'ing, i don't enjoy it, you know what they do and how to stop their attacks and all that, people are different, i can fight someone and blow up their ship, go back out with the same set-up and they can come back in the same ship and a different set-up and blow me up, NPC's can't do that, they all have generally the same set-up (for each type i mean) ... so ... just put it back to how it used to be, like it was in Pre-Castor NO, i'm not t3h ub3r C4R3B34R, i'm just trying to say it's too easy to be evil ... you're getting people to think that just because you have a negative sec status they are HARDCORE, when in all actuallity that person may have just blown up someone in a belt mining in a frigate when they have just bought their first cruiser. Come on ... make it an art, a skill, an honor, to be a pirate again. THAT is all i'm asking. Thank You, Clay101
Aurorapro	Posted - 2004.10.17 00:41:00 - [55] Ok i know this thread is kinda dead but i've decided to post anyway because i've been having the same troubles getting my security up. Why not bring back the Agents you could bribe, however only have them in 0.5 and above so pirates can locate the nearest one see the sec-status of the system and aim for a sec-status to get into that system to bribe the agent there. That way pirates cannot fly around empire when they feel like it, and the ones who work their asses off to get from -9 to above -4.5 don't have to work as hard as you do now.
Aurorapro	Posted - 2004.10.17 00:41:00 - [56] Ok i know this thread is kinda dead but i've decided to post anyway because i've been having the same troubles getting my security up. Why not bring back the Agents you could bribe, however only have them in 0.5 and above so pirates can locate the nearest one see the sec-status of the system and aim for a sec-status to get into that system to bribe the agent there. That way pirates cannot fly around empire when they feel like it, and the ones who work their asses off to get from -9 to above -4.5 don't have to work as hard as you do now.
Infinity Ziona	Posted - 2004.10.17 05:40:00 - [57] I can't stand it either really. I'm the type of the person that likes to do everything (except mine) in Eve (killing players, scamming, stealing ore, agent missions, trading, suicide attacking afk indies) if theres profit I like to do it. I prefer to call myself a privateer rather then anything else. BUT The sec status is so fecking stupid that I can kill only four or five player ships and then I need to spend weeeeeeeks doing missions or a week or more killing AI ships. I don't particulary think its cool to have a -sec status nor do I think its cool to have a [Wanted] sign, what I think is cool is outwitting and or killing players. I think its very UNCOOL to be killed by super powerful AI and I think its very UNCOOL to fight against super powerful AI. If I wanted to be killed by super powerful AI or fight super powerful AI I would have bought am offline game or played Everquest - Planes of Power . Yet with the joke of the new security status I spend 90% of my time having to outwit super powerful AI. Now I don't mind Concorde super powerfully killing me when I suicide an afk indy in a Caracal in 1.0 space and I don't mind people being free to attack me in any system in Eve while the rest of the people are protected. I don't mind sentry guns firing on me (after I aggress) in .1 - .04 even though I might have to tank sentry damage as well as the damage of the person I've aggressed. I don't even mind jumping into +.5 and running into a super powerful instant death Concorde blockade and dying. What I do mind is being perma camped by GOD (aka Concorde) who can magically appear in .33343243 of a second anywhere in a system. I do mind being pre-aggressivly targetted by and fired apon by every sentry gun (more useless AI) in existance while simultaneously being ganked by any carebear or pirate who just happens to be passing by after my sec status goes to -5. I do mind being shut out of every single +.4 system in the game by the aforementioned Godlike organization. I don't see why it would'nt be enough to have sentrys ONLY fire on aggression. Concorde ONLY fire on aggression (still can be GOD like and instaganking) or when you inadvertantly warp near them. I don't see why we can't have a security raising agent like we used to have, I would pay 1 million isk or more per .3 (it used to be 100k per .3). Well thats my rant. People will say don't pirate, don't lose sec status, go play in 0.0 but really imo people like that can go and get you know what. Be everything you ever wanted to be and let me be everything I wanted to be when I bought and subscribed to my two accounts and as CCP promised. As long as carebears are safe from griefing which they would be if my ideas were looked at properly, then I can't see any problem with being able to visit empire and operate in empire (at extreme risk) without being instaganked by superpowerful AI. Infinity Ziona
Infinity Ziona	Posted - 2004.10.17 05:40:00 - [58] I can't stand it either really. I'm the type of the person that likes to do everything (except mine) in Eve (killing players, scamming, stealing ore, agent missions, trading, suicide attacking afk indies) if theres profit I like to do it. I prefer to call myself a privateer rather then anything else. BUT The sec status is so fecking stupid that I can kill only four or five player ships and then I need to spend weeeeeeeks doing missions or a week or more killing AI ships. I don't particulary think its cool to have a -sec status nor do I think its cool to have a [Wanted] sign, what I think is cool is outwitting and or killing players. I think its very UNCOOL to be killed by super powerful AI and I think its very UNCOOL to fight against super powerful AI. If I wanted to be killed by super powerful AI or fight super powerful AI I would have bought am offline game or played Everquest - Planes of Power . Yet with the joke of the new security status I spend 90% of my time having to outwit super powerful AI. Now I don't mind Concorde super powerfully killing me when I suicide an afk indy in a Caracal in 1.0 space and I don't mind people being free to attack me in any system in Eve while the rest of the people are protected. I don't mind sentry guns firing on me (after I aggress) in .1 - .04 even though I might have to tank sentry damage as well as the damage of the person I've aggressed. I don't even mind jumping into +.5 and running into a super powerful instant death Concorde blockade and dying. What I do mind is being perma camped by GOD (aka Concorde) who can magically appear in .33343243 of a second anywhere in a system. I do mind being pre-aggressivly targetted by and fired apon by every sentry gun (more useless AI) in existance while simultaneously being ganked by any carebear or pirate who just happens to be passing by after my sec status goes to -5. I do mind being shut out of every single +.4 system in the game by the aforementioned Godlike organization. I don't see why it would'nt be enough to have sentrys ONLY fire on aggression. Concorde ONLY fire on aggression (still can be GOD like and instaganking) or when you inadvertantly warp near them. I don't see why we can't have a security raising agent like we used to have, I would pay 1 million isk or more per .3 (it used to be 100k per .3). Well thats my rant. People will say don't pirate, don't lose sec status, go play in 0.0 but really imo people like that can go and get you know what. Be everything you ever wanted to be and let me be everything I wanted to be when I bought and subscribed to my two accounts and as CCP promised. As long as carebears are safe from griefing which they would be if my ideas were looked at properly, then I can't see any problem with being able to visit empire and operate in empire (at extreme risk) without being instaganked by superpowerful AI. Infinity Ziona
Avon	Posted - 2004.10.17 10:29:00 - [59] Personally I think sec hit should be related with the total amount of damage dealt. Then the bigger the ship you kill, the bigger the sec hit, but offensive actions which result in no damage cause no sec hit. Low sec pirating returns, and people who want a really low sec status have to pick on bigger targets. ______________________________________________ Never argue with idiots. They will just drag it down to their level, and then beat you through experience.
Avon	Posted - 2004.10.17 10:29:00 - [60] Personally I think sec hit should be related with the total amount of damage dealt. Then the bigger the ship you kill, the bigger the sec hit, but offensive actions which result in no damage cause no sec hit. Low sec pirating returns, and people who want a really low sec status have to pick on bigger targets. ______________________________________________ Never argue with idiots. They will just drag it down to their level, and then beat you through experience.

istasi	Posted - 2004.10.17 11:02:00 - [61] Too easy to lose ??? .. what the hell is the matter with you ?:) I would say its to hard to lose I dont know with you guys but im quite tired of carebear pirates... People that pirates in 0.4 - 0.1 and then go kill loads of rats somewhere .. to keep their standing above -5.0 so they cant get attacked by other pirates near sentries .. (Or atleast only get attacked if the attacker is sentry tanked) and if that's ever gonna happen they tend to run instead of taking up the fight.. If i could deside you should be -10 for the first bloody pod you kill and then deal with it.. You proud of your secure standing ? Eh ? why the hell do you wanna be proud of that .. only thing its telling is if you're allowed in 0.5 or above If you want something to be proud of work on your rep instead and get a cool one .. fight great instead of being known as a miner killer which is the only thing the secure standing is telling... And yes pirates tend to kill lots of miners and that's why they aint allowed in 0.5 or above .. that's only fair in my ears if a n00b go went and killed a few carebears and got him a bad standing .. well .. let him deal with that .. cause afterall he is gonna live with that, atleast give him -5.0 so other pirates can attack him too and perhaps learn him a thing or two.. I know from my own experience that each time i've been ganked i've learned quite alot about what NOT to do... but running like a kid from a fight you asked for you self is just lame.. And if you do it to save your ship ? .. Get a insurance ? And if you do it to save your equiment cause its so expensive ? .. why the hell are you using named stuff as pirate or pvp'er if you cant even aford to lose it .. get a nice gank or a nice fight out of it instead .. if they are gonna win .. nice for them, if you are gonna win .. great doing from your side.. Am sorry got all mad cause of those 'runners' :P wanna chat about that convo me ingame :P Anyway .. you want honor from your secure standing ? .. well .. your point of honor might be alot diffent than mine but i dont think its so much honor in ganking miners and kill their pods .. its great fun though .. but honor .. not really ... and i gotta admit i havn't seen a single (sorry well .. atleast 1) pirate that had a nice chat with their attacker / prey after a match .. either the pirate or the prey is whining .. but i guess that's just the way it has to be... And that was my opoinen .. feel free to flame me but do it ingame instead will ya ?:) ------------------------------ My doctor have tried to tell me serveral times that eve isn't the real world... Poor dude, and people say i need to see a doctor ?
istasi	Posted - 2004.10.17 11:02:00 - [62] Too easy to lose ??? .. what the hell is the matter with you ?:) I would say its to hard to lose I dont know with you guys but im quite tired of carebear pirates... People that pirates in 0.4 - 0.1 and then go kill loads of rats somewhere .. to keep their standing above -5.0 so they cant get attacked by other pirates near sentries .. (Or atleast only get attacked if the attacker is sentry tanked) and if that's ever gonna happen they tend to run instead of taking up the fight.. If i could deside you should be -10 for the first bloody pod you kill and then deal with it.. You proud of your secure standing ? Eh ? why the hell do you wanna be proud of that .. only thing its telling is if you're allowed in 0.5 or above If you want something to be proud of work on your rep instead and get a cool one .. fight great instead of being known as a miner killer which is the only thing the secure standing is telling... And yes pirates tend to kill lots of miners and that's why they aint allowed in 0.5 or above .. that's only fair in my ears if a n00b go went and killed a few carebears and got him a bad standing .. well .. let him deal with that .. cause afterall he is gonna live with that, atleast give him -5.0 so other pirates can attack him too and perhaps learn him a thing or two.. I know from my own experience that each time i've been ganked i've learned quite alot about what NOT to do... but running like a kid from a fight you asked for you self is just lame.. And if you do it to save your ship ? .. Get a insurance ? And if you do it to save your equiment cause its so expensive ? .. why the hell are you using named stuff as pirate or pvp'er if you cant even aford to lose it .. get a nice gank or a nice fight out of it instead .. if they are gonna win .. nice for them, if you are gonna win .. great doing from your side.. Am sorry got all mad cause of those 'runners' :P wanna chat about that convo me ingame :P Anyway .. you want honor from your secure standing ? .. well .. your point of honor might be alot diffent than mine but i dont think its so much honor in ganking miners and kill their pods .. its great fun though .. but honor .. not really ... and i gotta admit i havn't seen a single (sorry well .. atleast 1) pirate that had a nice chat with their attacker / prey after a match .. either the pirate or the prey is whining .. but i guess that's just the way it has to be... And that was my opoinen .. feel free to flame me but do it ingame instead will ya ?:) ------------------------------ My doctor have tried to tell me serveral times that eve isn't the real world... Poor dude, and people say i need to see a doctor ?
Xtro 2	Posted - 2004.10.17 18:52:00 - [63] Originally by: MadGaz If you've got a bs, its easy to get your sec back, just chain bs for a few days. Took me on and off 2 days to get from -2.1 to 0.0. yup, works a treat, your average or new player tho is basically left with a useless character restricted to space he cant survive in, when i first started i was fearfull of 0.4 space and under, corp mates warned me pirates would and could easily attack/kill there, and with the sec raise they had to wait a fair few days to gain sec, but at least they gained it. When it came my turn to be able to hit them back, sec gains vanished, meaning pirates dont gain sec, however people that kill pirates also lose it, it also killed of a ton of 0.4 - 0.1 sec pirate groups. Current newbie pirates arent much to fear, in fact their a pointless profession unless as stated your able to solo armour tank npc bs's all day. __________________________________________ Hell is nothing more than an office with fluorecent lights.
Xtro 2	Posted - 2004.10.17 18:52:00 - [64] Originally by: MadGaz If you've got a bs, its easy to get your sec back, just chain bs for a few days. Took me on and off 2 days to get from -2.1 to 0.0. yup, works a treat, your average or new player tho is basically left with a useless character restricted to space he cant survive in, when i first started i was fearfull of 0.4 space and under, corp mates warned me pirates would and could easily attack/kill there, and with the sec raise they had to wait a fair few days to gain sec, but at least they gained it. When it came my turn to be able to hit them back, sec gains vanished, meaning pirates dont gain sec, however people that kill pirates also lose it, it also killed of a ton of 0.4 - 0.1 sec pirate groups. Current newbie pirates arent much to fear, in fact their a pointless profession unless as stated your able to solo armour tank npc bs's all day. __________________________________________ Hell is nothing more than an office with fluorecent lights.
Buggeh	Posted - 2004.10.18 00:36:00 - [65] I agree, it takes like thousands of missions (yes, some players actually can't be bothered or don't have access to battleships for regular 0.0 hunts) to get something like 0.3, and if you attack a player who is going after your buddies you bazooka down to 0.0 again. --- Dutch semi-carebear all-round character with lvl5 bad luck.
Buggeh	Posted - 2004.10.18 00:36:00 - [66] I agree, it takes like thousands of missions (yes, some players actually can't be bothered or don't have access to battleships for regular 0.0 hunts) to get something like 0.3, and if you attack a player who is going after your buddies you bazooka down to 0.0 again. --- Dutch semi-carebear all-round character with lvl5 bad luck.
FoRGyL	Posted - 2004.10.18 10:30:00 - [67] I think that it should stay as it is to get it back (see issues otherwise) but harder to loose it, to keep it real or get it real once again. -out- ********************************************************* Ohhhh iyayaayaya puff ohh iyaayaya puff puff PVR =Player vs Roid! Burr, scary peps!!!
FoRGyL	Posted - 2004.10.18 10:30:00 - [68] I think that it should stay as it is to get it back (see issues otherwise) but harder to loose it, to keep it real or get it real once again. -out- ********************************************************* Ohhhh iyayaayaya puff ohh iyaayaya puff puff PVR =Player vs Roid! Burr, scary peps!!!
Drasked	Posted - 2004.10.18 12:28:00 - [69] The only problem i see in being an outlaw is that your very limited in traveling, if they would just implant some timer that would allow -5.0 or more to travle trough lets say 0.5 sytems, so if you enter a .5 system you get a warning wich tells you that you have to leave the system in 10min or concord will come for you. I spoke to a lot of people who are outlaw and kill in low-sec space, and they all use alts to move their ships trough the .5 systems. This is very stupid imo.. you have to make an alt to make yourselfe more mobile?? ---
Drasked	Posted - 2004.10.18 12:28:00 - [70] The only problem i see in being an outlaw is that your very limited in traveling, if they would just implant some timer that would allow -5.0 or more to travle trough lets say 0.5 sytems, so if you enter a .5 system you get a warning wich tells you that you have to leave the system in 10min or concord will come for you. I spoke to a lot of people who are outlaw and kill in low-sec space, and they all use alts to move their ships trough the .5 systems. This is very stupid imo.. you have to make an alt to make yourselfe more mobile?? ---

Zell	Posted - 2004.10.18 13:56:00 - [71] If you want to do the crime, ya gotta do the time... Can't have it both ways. It was your choice to lead the life you lead, so now you want it to be easier?? Pllaaaesseee... "A coward dies a thousand times, the brave die just once.."
Zell	Posted - 2004.10.18 13:56:00 - [72] If you want to do the crime, ya gotta do the time... Can't have it both ways. It was your choice to lead the life you lead, so now you want it to be easier?? Pllaaaesseee... "A coward dies a thousand times, the brave die just once.."
Clay101	Posted - 2004.10.18 14:12:00 - [73] Originally by: istasi Too easy to lose ??? .. what the hell is the matter with you ?:) I would say its to hard to lose Anyway .. you want honor from your secure standing ? .. well .. your point of honor might be alot diffent than mine but i dont think its so much honor in ganking miners and kill their pods .. its great fun though .. but honor .. not really ... and i gotta admit i havn't seen a single (sorry well .. atleast 1) pirate that had a nice chat with their attacker / prey after a match .. either the pirate or the prey is whining .. but i guess that's just the way it has to be... And that was my opoinen .. feel free to flame me but do it ingame instead will ya ?:) i don't shoot miners (much) ... i like targets that shoot back ... and uh, evidentally you havn't been ganked by me before because i usually make a point to say "hey, good job, maybe next time you'll win bro" ... nothing bad ... oh and Triniton ganked me once but uh, he was kool about it ... even gave me a good scorp tank set-up that i've used and it works well :) ... Freedom Fighter for life (beware of the Venal Rangers HAHAHA)
Clay101	Posted - 2004.10.18 14:12:00 - [74] Originally by: istasi Too easy to lose ??? .. what the hell is the matter with you ?:) I would say its to hard to lose Anyway .. you want honor from your secure standing ? .. well .. your point of honor might be alot diffent than mine but i dont think its so much honor in ganking miners and kill their pods .. its great fun though .. but honor .. not really ... and i gotta admit i havn't seen a single (sorry well .. atleast 1) pirate that had a nice chat with their attacker / prey after a match .. either the pirate or the prey is whining .. but i guess that's just the way it has to be... And that was my opoinen .. feel free to flame me but do it ingame instead will ya ?:) i don't shoot miners (much) ... i like targets that shoot back ... and uh, evidentally you havn't been ganked by me before because i usually make a point to say "hey, good job, maybe next time you'll win bro" ... nothing bad ... oh and Triniton ganked me once but uh, he was kool about it ... even gave me a good scorp tank set-up that i've used and it works well :) ... Freedom Fighter for life (beware of the Venal Rangers HAHAHA)
Barth3zzzNL	Posted - 2004.10.18 14:20:00 - [75] Edited by: Barth3zzzNL on 18/10/2004 14:26:21 Originally by: Nafri Originally by: Barth3zzzNL I dislike podding because it gives a -12.5% sec hit. Itll put at -10 in no time and then where do i go? Back up...? hey im still only at -8.7, too bad i will never be able to do agents missions now Run missions for a pirate faction. Also looks way cooler on your profile then working for Lai Dai or some Faction Navy Originally by: DJTheBaron so why should high sec players be above the law for a few podkills until their at a minus again, and why should pirates be able to instandly redeem themselves from scumbags to saints? Because Concord should be happy to see the amount of pirates decrease? They themselves have been whining about pirate invasions and most wanted pirate lists. Concord should either deal with it or stfu... Originally by: DJTheBaron There really is only one soloution, everyone bvecome a scumbag, and lets invade empire and abolish concord once and for all. And let the faction standings and navys decide whos fair game, and whos above the law. --------------------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Barth3zzzNL	Posted - 2004.10.18 14:20:00 - [76] Edited by: Barth3zzzNL on 18/10/2004 14:26:21 Originally by: Nafri Originally by: Barth3zzzNL I dislike podding because it gives a -12.5% sec hit. Itll put at -10 in no time and then where do i go? Back up...? hey im still only at -8.7, too bad i will never be able to do agents missions now Run missions for a pirate faction. Also looks way cooler on your profile then working for Lai Dai or some Faction Navy Originally by: DJTheBaron so why should high sec players be above the law for a few podkills until their at a minus again, and why should pirates be able to instandly redeem themselves from scumbags to saints? Because Concord should be happy to see the amount of pirates decrease? They themselves have been whining about pirate invasions and most wanted pirate lists. Concord should either deal with it or stfu... Originally by: DJTheBaron There really is only one soloution, everyone bvecome a scumbag, and lets invade empire and abolish concord once and for all. And let the faction standings and navys decide whos fair game, and whos above the law. --------------------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Drasked	Posted - 2004.10.18 17:11:00 - [77] Originally by: Zell If you want to do the crime, ya gotta do the time... Can't have it both ways. It was your choice to lead the life you lead, so now you want it to be easier?? Pllaaaesseee... Dont know if where referring to me, but anyway i dont think its hard to pirate at all.. i just think its STUPID you need to train an alt to move your ships trough those .5 systems. I mean its not like we can shoot anything in .5 anyway becouse then concord will show up.. at least let the outlaws be able to travle trough .5 ---
Drasked	Posted - 2004.10.18 17:11:00 - [78] Originally by: Zell If you want to do the crime, ya gotta do the time... Can't have it both ways. It was your choice to lead the life you lead, so now you want it to be easier?? Pllaaaesseee... Dont know if where referring to me, but anyway i dont think its hard to pirate at all.. i just think its STUPID you need to train an alt to move your ships trough those .5 systems. I mean its not like we can shoot anything in .5 anyway becouse then concord will show up.. at least let the outlaws be able to travle trough .5 ---
Stetu	Posted - 2004.10.18 23:25:00 - [79] Losing sec status should be like gaining sec status. You should take the highest loss over a 15 minute period. When you rat hunt you take the highest gain, it should be the same way on the ebil side.
Stetu	Posted - 2004.10.18 23:25:00 - [80] Losing sec status should be like gaining sec status. You should take the highest loss over a 15 minute period. When you rat hunt you take the highest gain, it should be the same way on the ebil side.

Zell	Posted - 2004.10.19 03:23:00 - [81] Originally by: Drasked Originally by: Zell If you want to do the crime, ya gotta do the time... Can't have it both ways. It was your choice to lead the life you lead, so now you want it to be easier?? Pllaaaesseee... Dont know if where referring to me, but anyway i dont think its hard to pirate at all.. i just think its STUPID you need to train an alt to move your ships trough those .5 systems. I mean its not like we can shoot anything in .5 anyway becouse then concord will show up.. at least let the outlaws be able to travle trough .5 The word you want is inconvienced, not stupid . Its inconvient for you to move your ships after you have chosen to gank someone. Maybe have a "pirate mover" button on your neo-com, just press it and jump to any station you want, no more having to run blockades, fight people or face retribution for your deed, eh? Just free to gank in empire ans whine about its sooo hard to get my sec up, i can't move my ships... cookie, comes to mind...have one "A coward dies a thousand times, the brave die just once.."
Zell	Posted - 2004.10.19 03:23:00 - [82] Originally by: Drasked Originally by: Zell If you want to do the crime, ya gotta do the time... Can't have it both ways. It was your choice to lead the life you lead, so now you want it to be easier?? Pllaaaesseee... Dont know if where referring to me, but anyway i dont think its hard to pirate at all.. i just think its STUPID you need to train an alt to move your ships trough those .5 systems. I mean its not like we can shoot anything in .5 anyway becouse then concord will show up.. at least let the outlaws be able to travle trough .5 The word you want is inconvienced, not stupid . Its inconvient for you to move your ships after you have chosen to gank someone. Maybe have a "pirate mover" button on your neo-com, just press it and jump to any station you want, no more having to run blockades, fight people or face retribution for your deed, eh? Just free to gank in empire ans whine about its sooo hard to get my sec up, i can't move my ships... cookie, comes to mind...have one "A coward dies a thousand times, the brave die just once.."
Techie Zero	Posted - 2004.10.19 14:36:00 - [83] I like how people say "It takes me TWO DAYS to get my sec rating back up again"... Do you have a job? Do you work or have school? Know people in the REAL WORLD? A lot of us can't sit in front of a PC for 4+ hours a day and have typical day-to-day lives. IMHO the sec rating system still needs more ways to have someone IMPROVE their standings. EVE-I.com~THE Info source
Techie Zero	Posted - 2004.10.19 14:36:00 - [84] I like how people say "It takes me TWO DAYS to get my sec rating back up again"... Do you have a job? Do you work or have school? Know people in the REAL WORLD? A lot of us can't sit in front of a PC for 4+ hours a day and have typical day-to-day lives. IMHO the sec rating system still needs more ways to have someone IMPROVE their standings. EVE-I.com~THE Info source
Lucky One	Posted - 2004.10.19 19:36:00 - [85] As this seems to be going off topic a little, I don't mind sharing this. There are alot of noobs/former carebears who think that is it 'cool' to have a negative sec status. Case in point, I was in .9 space when a noob ship targeted me and started firing. This was a player who had been around for 5 or 6 months, I forget his name now. I found this to be amusing at best. He, of course, got blown up. I started a convo with him and asked what he was doing (while laughing of course). He said he wanted to be a pirate and was going for a high negative sec status, and asked if I could stay there so he could keep shooting me every time he came out of the station. I said he should just get a frig and kill miners in .4 and below. His response was that he wanted to get the high neg sec status first so people would be afraid of him. It was all very sad, and I think this guy was 'special'. I agree with the first post that it should take alot of work to get a low sec status. It used to be a status symbol, but now you can drop it in no time. His sec status was already negative, so he obviously not doing it to get a ransom put on him. In Eve, as in the real world, there are idiots everywhere. I just hope he was drinking at the time. As for the other discussions, you can easily get your sec status raised 1.0 a day fighting npc spawns in 0.0 solo, or with friends.
Lucky One	Posted - 2004.10.19 19:36:00 - [86] As this seems to be going off topic a little, I don't mind sharing this. There are alot of noobs/former carebears who think that is it 'cool' to have a negative sec status. Case in point, I was in .9 space when a noob ship targeted me and started firing. This was a player who had been around for 5 or 6 months, I forget his name now. I found this to be amusing at best. He, of course, got blown up. I started a convo with him and asked what he was doing (while laughing of course). He said he wanted to be a pirate and was going for a high negative sec status, and asked if I could stay there so he could keep shooting me every time he came out of the station. I said he should just get a frig and kill miners in .4 and below. His response was that he wanted to get the high neg sec status first so people would be afraid of him. It was all very sad, and I think this guy was 'special'. I agree with the first post that it should take alot of work to get a low sec status. It used to be a status symbol, but now you can drop it in no time. His sec status was already negative, so he obviously not doing it to get a ransom put on him. In Eve, as in the real world, there are idiots everywhere. I just hope he was drinking at the time. As for the other discussions, you can easily get your sec status raised 1.0 a day fighting npc spawns in 0.0 solo, or with friends.
Infinity Ziona	Posted - 2004.10.19 23:03:00 - [87] Spending an entire day killing NPCS in 0.0 is not a viable solution when it takes only 4 player kills to wipe out that entires days sec gains. I don't play Eve to kill NPCS. Yes I could go to 0.0 and PvP there but having already tried that its quite impossible to operate without support and because of my reputation and line of work no decent corp will take me in. I'm forced to solo much of my time. I agree with you on the sec loss, it should be much slower and the gains should be much faster and/or agents should be reintroduced. Infinity Ziona
Infinity Ziona	Posted - 2004.10.19 23:03:00 - [88] Spending an entire day killing NPCS in 0.0 is not a viable solution when it takes only 4 player kills to wipe out that entires days sec gains. I don't play Eve to kill NPCS. Yes I could go to 0.0 and PvP there but having already tried that its quite impossible to operate without support and because of my reputation and line of work no decent corp will take me in. I'm forced to solo much of my time. I agree with you on the sec loss, it should be much slower and the gains should be much faster and/or agents should be reintroduced. Infinity Ziona
barabis	Posted - 2004.10.20 02:08:00 - [89] Lovley skill called fast talk works wonders that and a couple of hours killing npc's quite happily got my sec rating up by a whole 0.1 i was so happy
barabis	Posted - 2004.10.20 02:08:00 - [90] Lovley skill called fast talk works wonders that and a couple of hours killing npc's quite happily got my sec rating up by a whole 0.1 i was so happy

Makeh	Posted - 2004.10.20 03:48:00 - [91] I was -10, I lost around -1.4 in one day npcing and i podded one guy and blew up a few more, and i think im -9 now ------------------- QUOTES OF TEH MONTH Loadmaster > its players like you that makes me want to quit EVE Masta Killa > I'll insta to agil and get my intie and then come back and pod you
Makeh	Posted - 2004.10.20 03:48:00 - [92] I was -10, I lost around -1.4 in one day npcing and i podded one guy and blew up a few more, and i think im -9 now ------------------- QUOTES OF TEH MONTH Loadmaster > its players like you that makes me want to quit EVE Masta Killa > I'll insta to agil and get my intie and then come back and pod you


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