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Saladinae
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2012.05.22 20:27:00 -
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I'm sure Steam (Valve) would welcome it openheartedly.
The amount of subs you would pick for BOTH games as opposed to not making it available for PC/MAC/Linux would be one of the greatest follies in gaming history.
DUST 514 is an AMAZING GAME and you should market it to as many possible platforms as possible. Also the PC has the advantage of being the primary platform of EvE itself.
In short, I keep my computer up to date with the lastest "medium grade" technology, and I'm sure many other PC gamers do as well, we simply cannot go out and buy a PS3 just to play DUST. Winmatar > Everything else |

toxicvega
Hard Rock Mining Co. Apocalyptic Legion.
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Posted - 2012.05.22 20:37:00 -
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I second this! Dust for the PC would ROCK!!!! |

42BelowVodka
Techno-Wizard Industrial Technologies
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Posted - 2012.05.22 20:39:00 -
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this
toxicvega wrote:I second this! Dust for the PC would ROCK!!!! |

Saladinae
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2012.05.22 21:12:00 -
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If no one trolled it yet, it must be an excellent idea. Winmatar > Everything else |

Agaetis Byrjun Endalaust
The Corporation of Noble Sentiments Sleeper Social Club
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Posted - 2012.05.22 21:15:00 -
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we trolled threads like this for 1 year actually. You are just late, very late. _________________________ just because you're paranoid it doesn't mean they're not after you |

MotherMoon
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2012.05.22 21:31:00 -
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postin Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 salesXbox 360: 2.2 millionPlayStation 3: 1.5 millionPC: 500,000 |

TC wabbajack
Prosperity Through Violence Unprovoked Aggression
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Posted - 2012.05.22 21:31:00 -
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I want eve on my PS3 |

Saladinae
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2012.05.22 21:32:00 -
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TC wabbajack wrote:I want eve on my PS3
Why not both? Larger community for everyone! Winmatar > Everything else |

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2012.05.22 21:47:00 -
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Eve should be on the DS |

captain kikaz
SQUINGEL
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Posted - 2012.05.22 22:08:00 -
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Your not getting the point of the game..A second hand ps3 can be had for -ú90-110 don't be cheap. |

Saladinae
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2012.05.22 22:09:00 -
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captain kikaz wrote:Your not getting the point of the game..go away. The point of the game is violated on PC? I wish you dumb****s would actually say something substantive. Winmatar > Everything else |

Pyrosomniac
VC Academy
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Posted - 2012.05.22 22:16:00 -
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Part of what DUST represents in that it's currently PS3 exclusive is that the world(s) of a merc fighting on the ground and a pod pilot being awesome in space are two completely different things. You can't compare the two, and in a way them being separate is a unique thing. It's also representative that something of this scale has NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE and should be appreciated in that sense.
There's rumours after Fanfest that there may be a PC version because of the game, because they used keyboard characters on screen? I can't remember but I remember there being something along those lines being discussed. It was probably a dev build but still, don't count on it immediately happening. It's an experiment by CCP and it should be given praise for that instead of whining how we don't get it. |

Agaetis Byrjun Endalaust
The Corporation of Noble Sentiments Sleeper Social Club
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Posted - 2012.05.22 22:17:00 -
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something substantive _________________________ just because you're paranoid it doesn't mean they're not after you |

UnLiMiTeD X
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.22 22:47:00 -
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toxicvega wrote:I second this! Dust for the PC would ROCK!!!!
this!! |

Komodo Askold
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.05.22 22:49:00 -
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Supported, of course! |

Amun Khonsu
3-Prong Operational Resources The Fendahlian Collective
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Posted - 2012.05.23 00:22:00 -
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I'd like to see it on Xbox eventually? Too bad they cancelled those plans. Fight them until turmoil is no more and strike terror into their hearts. |

Bauloe
SMANews.net SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2012.05.23 02:32:00 -
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some day it will come to PC |

Herping yourDerp
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.23 03:16:00 -
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nah |

Marlona Sky
Massive PVPness Psychotic Tendencies.
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Posted - 2012.05.23 03:19:00 -
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DUST on the PC would be a terrible mistake.
Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner! |

Saladinae
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2012.05.23 03:28:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:DUST on the PC would be a terrible mistake. Can anyone explain why? I'm asking for both platforms, not just PC Winmatar > Everything else |

Mortigus
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.05.23 03:49:00 -
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How about because the game is exclusive to PS3, eve players go out and buy PS3s thus increasing SONY's profits.
And a happy money making SOE leaves awesome developers like CCP alone to make great games. (Don't want another SWG disaster!)
On a more serious note, its a good business decision for both CCP and SONY. It sounds counter-intuitive but think about it. |

Saladinae
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2012.05.23 04:34:00 -
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Mortigus wrote:How about because the game is exclusive to PS3, eve players go out and buy PS3s thus increasing SONY's profits.
And a happy money making SOE leaves awesome developers like CCP alone to make great games. (Don't want another SWG disaster!)
On a more serious note, its a good business decision for both CCP and SONY. It sounds counter-intuitive but think about it. No you just result with less people playing. Anyone who doesn't have a PS3 after all this time isn't going to get one now. Winmatar > Everything else |

Daedra Blue
Atomic Biohazard
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Posted - 2012.05.23 05:52:00 -
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Saladinae wrote:Marlona Sky wrote:DUST on the PC would be a terrible mistake. Can anyone explain why? I'm asking for both platforms, not just PC Because nothing can compete with mouse and keyboard, regardless of expertise once you place console vs pc(mouse and keyboard) unless you get a device that allows you to mount mouse and keyboard like eagle eye on your console your will be unable to compete.
The amount of precision you gain from using a mouse is ridiculous combined with an experienced FPS player he can mow down hordes of console players at a time.
If they wanted to bring it to PC the needed to exclude consoles altogether in order to keep a level playing field, i am sad too i do wish it would have been a PC release. But i will buy a PS3 and get an Eagle Eye for it and mow them down because when it comes to FPS there is no substitute for a mouse+Keyboard combo for a PC gamer. ;)
Let me quote the Microsoft experiment they wanted to make a bridge between the Xbox and PC trough Xbox Live.
"There was a project that got killed at Microsoft. This project was designed to allow console gamers and PC gamers to interact and battle over a connected environment. Personally I wish it would have stayed the course. I've heard from reliable sources that during the development they brought together the best console gamers to play mediocre PC gamers at the same game... and guess what happened? They pitted console gamers with their "console" controller, against PC gamers with their keyboard and mouse.
The console players got destroyed every time. So much so that it would be embarrassing to the XBOX team in general had Microsoft launched this initiative. Is this why the project was killed Who knows, but I'd love to hear from anyone involved --- what happened?" |

Yelena Fedorova
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.23 07:12:00 -
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dust should be made for pc as well, but imo they should refine the ps3 version first 
edit: also
Daedra Blue wrote: Because nothing can compete with mouse and keyboard, regardless of expertise once you place console vs pc(mouse and keyboard) unless you get a device that allows you to mount mouse and keyboard like eagle eye on your console your will be unable to compete.
The amount of precision you gain from using a mouse is ridiculous combined with an experienced FPS player he can mow down hordes of console players at a time.
lol... dust will have keyboard and mouse support on the ps3 |

highonpop
Void.Tech Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2012.05.23 14:14:00 -
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DUST will have Mouse/Keyboard capabilities through the PS3
Think about it guys. The only reason you are crying for it to be on PC is for mouse/KB and for graphics...STUPID
If DUST came out on PC, who would be left to play EVE? Dust being on console assures it doesnt take away from EVE and allows for simultaneous play on both systems.
Putting Dust on the PC is a BAD IDEA My post was probably full of typos. I don;t care... |

Tenchi Sal
Dust Bunnies 514
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Posted - 2012.05.23 17:36:00 -
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DUST on the PC is a bad idea because it would turn out to be aimbot vs aimbot as in most other pc FPS instead of players vs players. |

Saladinae
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2012.05.23 21:19:00 -
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highonpop wrote:DUST will have Mouse/Keyboard capabilities through the PS3
Think about it guys. The only reason you are crying for it to be on PC is for mouse/KB and for graphics...STUPID
If DUST came out on PC, who would be left to play EVE? Dust being on console assures it doesnt take away from EVE and allows for simultaneous play on both systems.
Putting Dust on the PC is a BAD IDEA
You really think all of us that invested money on 2-3 accounts in EvE and lots of subscription time are going to drop EvE because Dust comes out?
Reality Check: I play EvE and TF2 everyday and chess on my TV.
What you're basically saying is that ANY game (not just a game by CCP) that is made for PC is bad because it might take people away from EvE. So everyone should stop making PC games now!
Also, I'm asking for it on PC because I don't want to buy an expensive PS3 that is outdated by modern PC gaming standards. Winmatar > Everything else |

Bantara
Corp 54 Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2012.05.23 22:36:00 -
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Saladinae wrote:Anyone who doesn't have a PS3 after all this time isn't going to get one now. patently wrong
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Saladinae
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2012.05.23 23:45:00 -
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Bantara wrote:Saladinae wrote:Anyone who doesn't have a PS3 after all this time isn't going to get one now. patently wrong Actually there's a patent and release date for PS4 that everyone is holding their money for. So you are patently wrong in the literal sense. Winmatar > Everything else |

Afale II
Space Pony Farm
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Posted - 2012.05.23 23:53:00 -
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Make it happen -Nostalgia is not as good as it used to be- |

Mortigus
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.05.24 00:03:00 -
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Saladinae wrote:Mortigus wrote:How about because the game is exclusive to PS3, eve players go out and buy PS3s thus increasing SONY's profits.
And a happy money making SOE leaves awesome developers like CCP alone to make great games. (Don't want another SWG disaster!)
On a more serious note, its a good business decision for both CCP and SONY. It sounds counter-intuitive but think about it. No you just result with less people playing. Anyone who doesn't have a PS3 after all this time isn't going to get one now.
Hence why its counter-intuitive. 
Let's put it anothert way, if CCP releases on another platform within x months they get sued.
You can yell and whine till your blue in the face, but it won't change the current situation. |

Saladinae
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2012.05.24 00:12:00 -
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Mortigus wrote:Saladinae wrote:Mortigus wrote:How about because the game is exclusive to PS3, eve players go out and buy PS3s thus increasing SONY's profits.
And a happy money making SOE leaves awesome developers like CCP alone to make great games. (Don't want another SWG disaster!)
On a more serious note, its a good business decision for both CCP and SONY. It sounds counter-intuitive but think about it. No you just result with less people playing. Anyone who doesn't have a PS3 after all this time isn't going to get one now. Hence why its counter-intuitive.  Let's put it anothert way, if CCP releases on another platform within x months they get sued. You can yell and whine till your blue in the face, but it won't change the current situation.
You seem to be missing a key concept.
I'm saying releasing it for BOTH PC and PS3. Not just PC.
A good analogy is Castlevania Lords Of Shadow. I played all its versions on PS. However I moved onto PC gaming when Warcraft III came out, WoW, and SC II. Now I keep PC gaming for EvE and SCII and some random PC games I enjoy, like Sim City or Civilization IV/V.
Had Castlevania been released as both PC and console, I would have payed double price for the PC version just to avoid the PS3 cost. So I'll never get to experience the beautiful game that is Castlevania Lords of Shadow (I've watched practically every youtube video of the game and soundtracks) simply because it's not on PC.
I'd argue that every game (with Steam now available) should have a PC version. That's right, EVERY SINGLE GAME. You'd make a killing and there's plenty of people that would even translate the game to PC for a minor one-time fee and perhaps even free.
To this day I'd buy Castlevania for PC for 100 bucks if it was released. I'm content with The Witcher and The Witcher 2 in the meantime :)
Development time to create a PC version of every game would pay for itself 50 times over every time (assuming the game is popular to begin with). Winmatar > Everything else |

Kaikka Carel
White syndicate Wormholes Holders
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Posted - 2012.05.24 02:04:00 -
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iirc dust will have one world/server just like EVE. So if it comes out on PC I can finally r-Špe PS3 players with a mouse and keyboard in a shooter? |

Reina Supremus
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.24 02:43:00 -
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Kaikka Carel wrote:iirc dust will have one world/server just like EVE. So if it comes out on PC I can finally r-Špe PS3 players with a mouse and keyboard in a shooter? PS3 already has mouse and keyboard support for competitive FPS players |

Kaikka Carel
White syndicate Wormholes Holders
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Posted - 2012.05.24 02:58:00 -
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Reina Supremus wrote:Kaikka Carel wrote:iirc dust will have one world/server just like EVE. So if it comes out on PC I can finally r-Špe PS3 players with a mouse and keyboard in a shooter? PS3 already has mouse and keyboard support for competitive FPS players
I heard they simply emulate gamepad stick's movement... Link an article or product with full mouse support pls. |

Reina Supremus
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2012.05.24 03:02:00 -
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Kaikka Carel wrote:Reina Supremus wrote:Kaikka Carel wrote:iirc dust will have one world/server just like EVE. So if it comes out on PC I can finally r-Špe PS3 players with a mouse and keyboard in a shooter? PS3 already has mouse and keyboard support for competitive FPS players I heard they simply emulate gamepad stick's movement... Link an article or product with full mouse support pls.
Google is your friend. Let me provide you about 20 links and gtfo out this thead and the rest of you goons.
http://www.amazon.com/Eagle-Mouse-Keyboard-Converter-Playstation-3/dp/B0040UAYI4
http://www.penguinunitedstore.com/products/Eagle-Eye-Converter-for-Playstation-3.html\
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jr-06RqRZ6c
http://www.penguinunited.com/
http://www.frys.com/product/6516913
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/109/1095425p1.html
http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/03/penguin-uniteds-eagle-eye-brings-wasd-to-your-ps3-shooters-dis/
I have many many more links you want them? |

Kaikka Carel
White syndicate Wormholes Holders
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Posted - 2012.05.24 03:24:00 -
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Yeah thanks but let me just quote:
Shatner wrote:On a PC, a mouse is LINEAR. If you move the mouse 2 inches to the right your character turns a certain amount. If you move the mouse 2 inches to the right quickly, the character turns the EXACT SAME AMOUNT, he just does it MORE QUICKLY. This is not the case when using a mouse on Black Ops, Medal of Honor, etc. The Eagle Eye basically translates the "mouse is moving to the right" action into "right analog stick is being pushed to the right." This, in theory, works well. However, on the PS3, the speed of your character's turn depends not on the speed that the mouse moves, nor the distance, but on a fixed in game sensitivity. For example, if you set your sensitivity to 2 in Black Ops, your character can only turn at a certain max speed. If you try to swipe your mouse to the right quickly, the PS3 only understands that the right analog stick is being pushed breifly, and your character will barely move. If you move the mouse relatively slowly, the character will turn farther, because the PS3 thinks the right analog stick has been pushed right for a longer period of time.
GorillaSnot wrote:Take your time and do the advanced Calibration several times to tweak it perfect. It takes several games to get the feel just right.. but after you get it calibrated it is pretty close to a PC experience. The major difference is the linear action of a PC mouse and the analog action of the Eagle Eye mouse, you just can not trun around as fast as you can with a PC mouse. It is impossible to replicate it exactly but you can get close.
The fact is that the principles are still different and a PC gamer is going to have an edge(decisive in certain situations given same skills of players).
Also it's interesting to know how FPS(frames-per-second)dependant Dust engine is. If it's like Q3 engine than 500fps ftw!
But let's not turn this into a PCvsConsole shall we? |

Reina Supremus
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.24 03:37:00 -
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Kaikka Carel wrote:Yeah thanks but let me just quote: Shatner wrote:On a PC, a mouse is LINEAR. If you move the mouse 2 inches to the right your character turns a certain amount. If you move the mouse 2 inches to the right quickly, the character turns the EXACT SAME AMOUNT, he just does it MORE QUICKLY. This is not the case when using a mouse on Black Ops, Medal of Honor, etc. The Eagle Eye basically translates the "mouse is moving to the right" action into "right analog stick is being pushed to the right." This, in theory, works well. However, on the PS3, the speed of your character's turn depends not on the speed that the mouse moves, nor the distance, but on a fixed in game sensitivity. For example, if you set your sensitivity to 2 in Black Ops, your character can only turn at a certain max speed. If you try to swipe your mouse to the right quickly, the PS3 only understands that the right analog stick is being pushed breifly, and your character will barely move. If you move the mouse relatively slowly, the character will turn farther, because the PS3 thinks the right analog stick has been pushed right for a longer period of time. GorillaSnot wrote:Take your time and do the advanced Calibration several times to tweak it perfect. It takes several games to get the feel just right.. but after you get it calibrated it is pretty close to a PC experience. The major difference is the linear action of a PC mouse and the analog action of the Eagle Eye mouse, you just can not trun around as fast as you can with a PC mouse. It is impossible to replicate it exactly but you can get close. The fact is that the principles are still different and a PC gamer is going to have an edge(decisive in certain situations given same skills of players). Also it's interesting to know how FPS(frames-per-second)dependant Dust engine is. If it's like Q3 engine than 500fps ftw! But let's not turn this into a PCvsConsole shall we?
Then code the game to accept that type of input? Profit. |

Cyrina Manto
Masons of New Eden The Laughing Men
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Posted - 2012.05.24 07:20:00 -
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Listing a game with NATIVE mouse and keyboard support on PS3 (as in just plug your usb KB/M into the ps3)...
UT3.
Played LOTS of it with controller as well as KB & Mouse, KB/M allowed me to pwn people using controllers in unrestricted servers. |
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