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Lars Zundi	Posted - 2009.07.17 13:06:00 - [1] I have a pretty much 'cookie cutter' broadsword setup, my midslot tank consists of 3xLSE2s and 2xINV2s, or 4xLSE IIs and INV II. My lows are usualy a DCU II and some combination of SPR IIs and PDS IIs. The ship is used for losec activities, usualy under sentry fire in a small gang. Thing is, im not sure whether I would get more advantage from fitting a couple of shields extender rigs or shield purger rigs? Are there any stacking penalties applicable with this fit? (SPR II's and purgers maybe?)
Ravenal The Fated E.Y	Posted - 2009.07.17 13:24:00 - [2] purgers .
Dr Fighter	Posted - 2009.07.17 13:26:00 - [3] depends on your expected fights, and how likly you are to be primary. Big gangs -> extender rigs smaller gangs -> purgers
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2009.07.17 13:29:00 - [4] Edited by: Akita T on 17/07/2009 13:29:57 Purgers give you a better peak tank and unchanged buffer, extenders give you a better buffer and a bit less extra peak tank than purgers (still a lot better than no rigs). Purgers and extender rigs (and for the matter, all shield/capacitor amount/rechargetime modules or rigs) have no stanck-nerf penalties whatsoever right now, they never had any, and I doubt they will get any in the near future. EVE issues\|Mining revamp\|Build stuff\|Make ISK
1600 RT	Posted - 2009.07.17 13:39:00 - [5] extenders
Khornne Caldari Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2009.07.17 14:46:00 - [6] Originally by: Ravenal purgers /facepalm
Cavazos Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2009.07.17 15:04:00 - [7] pergurs for an empire work and extenders in 0.0
Gypsio III Dirty Filthy Perverts	Posted - 2009.07.17 15:19:00 - [8] lol purgers lol SPRs facepalm
Cavazos Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2009.07.17 15:45:00 - [9] Edited by: Cavazos on 17/07/2009 15:45:55 i corrrected my misspelled purger lol
Artemis Rose Sileo In Pacis The Space P0lice	Posted - 2009.07.17 18:20:00 - [10] Originally by: Gypsio III lol purgers lol SPRs facepalm This pretty much *** Currently Playing: Trolls from Outer Space Current Equipment: VISAcard chain mail, +2 Amulet of Epic Whine, Self Banstick +2 WTB: +666 E-peen killboard stats

Gypsio III Dirty Filthy Perverts	Posted - 2009.07.17 18:59:00 - [11] For clarification, the "lol purgers" comment applies just as much in Empire as it does in 0.0. When gatecamping, you're not actually tanking the guns, you're sitting aligned at a ninja waiting for scout reports. At the gate itself, sentry DPS is spread among your gang and a high peak regen is unnecessary. In a gang fight, your job is to tackle. You can't use the Field in Empire, so you have multiple WDFGs with focused scripts. Their cap drain is significant, and as a HIC you're vulnerable to neuts anyway, so the last thing you want is the self-neuting mods that are SPRs. And when you do put your multiple points on an enemy gang, you want maximum buffer, because if they're looking to escape, they'll try to jam, neut or kill you.
Neacail	Posted - 2009.07.17 19:20:00 - [12] Edited by: Neacail on 17/07/2009 19:21:16 Extenders, always (unless you're tanking some PvE crap). Refer to Gypsio III's post for clarification. Lose the SPRs too.
Grimpak Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2009.07.17 20:41:00 - [13] don't understand this fascination with SPR's. I mean, they were crap when I started playing (back in 2003), and their stats are still crap, even considering the boost they give to shield regen, the cap regen you lose in the process is way too significant to be of any use, unless you're in a passive bait-drake. --- Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals. ain't that right.
arbiter reformed Minmatar Annihilate.	Posted - 2009.07.17 21:08:00 - [14] Edited by: arbiter reformed on 17/07/2009 21:08:29 Originally by: Ravenal purgers lol obvious troll is obvious Signature graphics that may only contain your character name, corporation logo, corporation or personal slogan or other text that is directly related to your in-game persona, or content directly related to Eve Online. All content must be in good taste.Applebabe
James Lyrus Lyrus Associates The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.07.18 00:59:00 - [15] Originally by: Grimpak don't understand this fascination with SPR's. I mean, they were crap when I started playing (back in 2003), and their stats are still crap, even considering the boost they give to shield regen, the cap regen you lose in the process is way too significant to be of any use, unless you're in a passive bait-drake. SPR IIs are massive amounts of extra shield regen, for screwing with your cap. Which means you can do some quite revolting things when the shield:regen ratio is good - like you get on a BC. It's the SPR II that's ... pretty much singlehandedly responsible for being able to L4 in a Drake. And then people move from PvE, to PvP and have to relearn what it is they're doing, because in the 'real' world, you can't really function with a setup that's horrendously bad on cap stability, and has no room for 'active' mods, like MWD, hardeners or tackle. And to answer the OP: Core Defense Field Extenders. Maybe an Anti-Kinetic Screen, depending on what hardener configuration you're on.
Grimpak Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2009.07.18 05:34:00 - [16] Originally by: James Lyrus Originally by: Grimpak don't understand this fascination with SPR's. I mean, they were crap when I started playing (back in 2003), and their stats are still crap, even considering the boost they give to shield regen, the cap regen you lose in the process is way too significant to be of any use, unless you're in a passive bait-drake. SPR IIs are massive amounts of extra shield regen, for screwing with your cap. Which means you can do some quite revolting things when the shield:regen ratio is good - like you get on a BC. It's the SPR II that's ... pretty much singlehandedly responsible for being able to L4 in a Drake. And then people move from PvE, to PvP and have to relearn what it is they're doing, because in the 'real' world, you can't really function with a setup that's horrendously bad on cap stability, and has no room for 'active' mods, like MWD, hardeners or tackle. I know all that. it's just that I still can't fathom using such module instead a power diag II in any situation. --- Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals. ain't that right.
Lars Zundi	Posted - 2009.07.18 07:56:00 - [17] Cheers fer the feedback, exactly what I needed to know. Looks like I will be fitting extender rigs and binning the SPRs, wasnt too sure on them on a HIC anyway. I have used them before in pvp with success on a passive shield tanked, sensor boosted cane that sits at 50k+ from gates and arty snipes, (so many frigs and pods killed with this ) but I think I will confine them to that particular niche fit.
James Lyrus Lyrus Associates The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.07.18 08:33:00 - [18] Originally by: Lars Zundi Cheers fer the feedback, exactly what I needed to know. Looks like I will be fitting extender rigs and binning the SPRs, wasnt too sure on them on a HIC anyway. I have used them before in pvp with success on a passive shield tanked, sensor boosted cane that sits at 50k+ from gates and arty snipes, (so many frigs and pods killed with this ) but I think I will confine them to that particular niche fit. Power diagnostic systems are also good for your shield, but they don't hose your cap (indeed the opposite). Which is important when you're flying a ship that's running the warp disruption field generator, which is something of a cap pig.
fkingfurious	Posted - 2009.07.18 12:15:00 - [19] I think this is a pretty standard Broadsword setup: [Broadsword, New Setup 1] Internal Force Field Array I Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II V-M15 Braced Multispectral Shield Matrix Warp Disruption Field Generator I Warp Disruption Field Generator I Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I The named stuff is there for CPU reasons .As theres no realistic Faction alternative to keep the fitting down while keeping your stats up you just have to take the hit on the numbers. Course you can just leave a high slot empty but even on a HIC that somehow feels wrong.


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