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YORK CRAFT Caldari KRAFTWERK	Posted - 2009.07.17 16:55:00 - [1] Edited by: YORK CRAFT on 17/07/2009 16:57:41 Sorry, Im just a newbie, who travels through Black Rise from time to time in his beloved Ibis of Doom. And lately I saw mid-sized Fleets hotdropped by Carriers. As I said, Im just an observer at place, but I also saw very dangerous Pilots in Tama camping Nourv-Gate with assigned Fighters from a Carrier, playing freekin docking games. (/emote noobie York Craft yawns). Well, and here it comes : I heard a roumor, that every Cyno will be answered by a Cyno, every Carrier will be answerd by Carrier from now on. Is that really the case ? Does that mean, overkills like hotdropping 2 Carriers on a 15+ Cruisers and 5 BSs fleet will be very dangerous in the future ? Sounds entertaining ! And here is my noob advise : if you setup a "tarp because of Falcon", and your enemy does not engage, cause he has intel of two different Pirates Corps ready to jump in, that is simply a smart move and not ****ty pants. Oh and btw., I saw that engagement in Tama at Suja-Gate two days ago. I saw two Cynos of different parties for Caps ready to jumpin. I saw a slaughtered Pirates Fleet, a looting FW fleet and then of a sudden a passive Carrier was unintentional grabbing attention, that had connection issues, misunderstood orders and was slaughtered by three different parties, while loot-fat FW Fleet tried to safe it, thereby taking serious losses, due to unclear situation. Before that, FW fleet had just some Cruiser losses and holding the field (to be exact, till 20:58 EVE-Time). No worries, Im aware, that KBs are not accurate, - but here we go : http://killboard.caldarimilitia.org/?a=kill_related&kll_id=128148 Everyone, who knows me, my Ibis Fleet of Doom will engage as long as its not suicide. Even, if we have a Cap escallation on both sides. And I know also, you'll do the same. Well, you did it in the past and hopefully in the future. My respect for that, dear enemy ! And common, Pilots ! - FW is far from to be dead. Its just about to get very interesting, if you ask me. York Craft Ps: the CCP Fix is a "must have", tbh. I love it.
Intigo Amarr Endemic Aggression Exalted.	Posted - 2009.07.17 16:57:00 - [2] ... What the hell are you talking about? ___________________ ENEMA, much love. <3
Mitch Taylor Dark-Rising	Posted - 2009.07.17 17:00:00 - [3] FW is fantastic, whats KRAFTWERK upto these days? The Dark is Rising... Non EVE related content removed. Zymurgist
YORK CRAFT Caldari KRAFTWERK	Posted - 2009.07.17 17:14:00 - [4] Originally by: Mitch Taylor FW is fantastic, whats KRAFTWERK upto these days? Hey Mitch ! - Errrm, nothing special
Veshta Yoshida Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2009.07.17 17:14:00 - [5] Not dead, but does have a noticeable limp Can't speak for what transpires on the Gallente front, but so far the hotdropping and general capital deployment has been sparsse on the Minmatar front. Much more enjoyable for everyone I should think. As far as I, and many of my fellows, FW is about the sub-BS action. The restrictions on plexes and mobility required for survival has so far kept just that with a couple of blow-out slug fests with the heavy machinery.
YORK CRAFT Caldari KRAFTWERK	Posted - 2009.07.17 17:49:00 - [6] Originally by: Veshta Yoshida Can't speak for what transpires on the Gallente front, but so far the hotdropping and general capital deployment has been sparsse on the Minmatar front. Much more enjoyable for everyone I should think. I agree Veshta. To keep it clean of Caps, would be great. Im just thinking, they are part of Game and can be delivered, as it seems.
Dunk Dinkle Caldari State Protectorate	Posted - 2009.07.17 17:55:00 - [7] I think that York is trying to be ironic and is saying that the Gal-Cal Faction fighting is heating up. Flying with York as FC is fun because he goes off to take 'coffee breaks' with his girlfriend and we gossip about him while he's afk.
YORK CRAFT Caldari KRAFTWERK	Posted - 2009.07.17 18:04:00 - [8] Originally by: Dunk Dinkle Flying with York as FC is fun because he goes off to take 'coffee breaks' with his girlfriend and we gossip about him while he's afk. Yeah, afk in space. - Oh my bad, thats why I lose all my dirty Scorps
Selous Wrath of Fenris	Posted - 2009.07.17 18:23:00 - [9] Originally by: YORK CRAFT I also saw very dangerous Pilots in Tama camping Nourv-Gate with assigned Fighters from a Carrier, playing freekin docking games. I will have strong words with those fighters and tell them not to dock at the nourv gate , but must return to the carrier
YORK CRAFT Caldari KRAFTWERK	Posted - 2009.07.17 18:37:00 - [10] Originally by: Selous Originally by: YORK CRAFT I also saw very dangerous Pilots in Tama camping Nourv-Gate with assigned Fighters from a Carrier, playing freekin docking games. I will have strong words with those fighters and tell them not to dock at the nourv gate , but must return to the carrier Lmao, thats a good one ! Congrats
iudex Caldari State Protectorate	Posted - 2009.07.17 19:17:00 - [11] Hmm, carriers in Tama, this reminds me of this and this - the good old times I for one welcome our carrier overlords (/me starts training his dreadnought skill to 5). My skills Faction Standings: Serpentis +8.02 / Angel Cartel +9.11 / Gallente Federation -9.99
Steve Celeste Caldari Overdogs	Posted - 2009.07.17 19:42:00 - [12] Edited by: Steve Celeste on 17/07/2009 19:41:53 Originally by: iudex Hmm, carriers in Tama, this reminds me of this and this - the good old times I for one welcome our carrier overlords (/me starts training his dreadnought skill to 5). Thanks for reminding me, i copied those and posted then to our kb since i was on 2 of those carriers back then :p Archon kill had 98 miltia involved, i remember we had a fleet of 150 with Boromor as FC.
YORK CRAFT Caldari KRAFTWERK	Posted - 2009.07.18 11:14:00 - [13] Originally by: Dunk Dinkle I think that York is trying to be ironic and is saying that the Gal-Cal Faction fighting is heating up. Sounds and looks good, Iudex and Steve. Good old times reloaded, hehe. But back to my quote. Dunk, - thats not only Gals vs Cal, also the fights against Pirates in Black Rise are heating up atm. And I like it.
Droog 1 Black Rise Inbreds	Posted - 2009.07.18 12:28:00 - [14] 5000+ Caldari managed to kill 14 Gallente ships in a 12 hour period from DT to midnight yesterday.
Kai Misu Caldari State Protectorate	Posted - 2009.07.22 10:15:00 - [15] Player numbers and the frequency of the alpha blobs have most definitely declined but that aside the amount of skilled players and corps involved in FW has increased. Woot woot my hull tanking domi survived in the engagement!!!! And shuuuu York stop telling every1 about the lag fix, its Caldari militiaÆs secret weapon vs the pirates, we bring the LAG BOMB oh yea!!!
Steve Celeste Caldari Overdogs	Posted - 2009.07.22 11:02:00 - [16] Originally by: Droog 1 5000+ Caldari managed to kill 14 Gallente ships in a 12 hour period from DT to midnight yesterday. In other news: 14 Gallente pilots actually undocked their ship in a 12 hour period from DT to midnight yesterday.
Unfamed II Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United	Posted - 2009.07.22 11:17:00 - [17] Caldari kb, eve-kill.net Gallente kb, eve-kill.net Pretty well matching. Originally by: Sandslinger of CA So this wasn't a straightoff logoffski from our point of view, rather a tactical manoeuvre
Jones Bones Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2009.07.22 12:28:00 - [18] Much better engagement summary for that battle: Tama Throwdown =================== Go Bucks!
oodin Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2009.07.22 17:25:00 - [19] Originally by: Jones Bones Much better engagement summary for that battle: Tama Throwdown POOOOOOOWNED
YORK CRAFT Caldari KRAFTWERK	Posted - 2009.07.22 18:36:00 - [20] Originally by: Jones Bones Much better engagement summary for that battle: Tama Throwdown As I said : till 20:58 EVE-Time we were holding the Field, after indeed a tough and entertaining Battle on both sides, and looting. With more kills and a better isk-ratio. I checked now all KBs on that, and I have to addmit, that we had more losses than criusers and frigs during this first wave, to be correct. AFTER THAT engagement : we tried to safe that BNC Carrier and most of our losses are a result of this failing attempt. But we couldnt leave it alone, after BNC did very good on our successful first engagement. The intel to leave it alone, came to late. Oh, I can see a total of 13 BYDI losses on your KB, thats a good one, lmao. Other than that, was an extremly good and very tactical Battle outa there. And I agree : on total outcome, BYDI and Friends won that Battle, if we take every engagement and every wave into account. Was a pleasure, cya on the field
Crazy Tasty Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2009.07.22 20:58:00 - [21] Quote: Oh, I can see a total of 13 BYDI losses on your KB, thats a good one, lmao. If you want to lulz take a look at your KB's jacked up engagement link. You guys lost at close to 5 to 1 ratio in both ISK and ships, yet it still shows a 54% efficiency for you? Pointless to try and differentiate who "won a wave" in a fight like that, especially when you're like doesn't show friendly cap losses. ------ // This is by design. When a ship jumps through a gate, it clears all aggression. // - BH ******** Pew on gate, if it gets hot, jump through and Ctrl-Q. Game mechanic endorsed by CCP.
Steve Celeste Caldari Overdogs	Posted - 2009.07.23 11:16:00 - [22] Originally by: Crazy Tasty especially when you're like doesn't show friendly cap losses. The losses are on there, i even copied one of the caps from BNC kb, but for some reason it doesn't show up on the battle overview, weird.
inyreye Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2009.07.23 18:35:00 - [23] Edited by: inyreye on 23/07/2009 18:41:01 Real battle report for anyone who cares: We form up for a BC gang, with a few logistics support. Our goal was to hit the biggest blob on the map 0.0 or lowsec, and have fun doing it. Fight One: Turns out a Black Nova Corp (Now in the caldari militia) BS gang was coming into suj that moment, so we figure why not and jump into tama to grab them. As BNC is jumping in we are popping them all pretty quickly with no issues. BNC must have cried out on militia intel, because our scout reports a big caldari gang jumping into tama which outnumbers us 2:1. They jump in, warp to the suj gate, and the lagfest begins. BNC must have been super butt hurt, because they dropped 4 carriers on our fleet of battlecruisers. Half our fleet dies, and half gets out. Fight Two: People who died get back into onatoh to reship into big boy ships, and someone from invicta calls tackle on the thani on gate. Our gang comes back in, as does caldari, and the **fest begins again. They get slaughtered as we hold the carrier for its death. After its support fails, we work on the carrier which attempts to self destruct. Battle report: http://bydi.griefwatch.net/index.php?p=engagement&kill=41645 Caldari KB is **in worthless. I remember killing that hookbill and a few others in there. We would like to thank WOLFY for ninjaing on every KM with 0 dmg. Props. Pr0 tip to caldari militia: Don't put all your FC's in ECM boats. They die too quick.
Hirana Yoshida Behavioral Affront	Posted - 2009.07.23 19:51:00 - [24] Minmatar front has become a lame-as-can-be blob fest 24/7 Used to be once or twice during the week and on the weekends. Even with manageable lag gangs of the 50+ are no fun to fly in or fight against, no skill involved whatsoever except on the target callers part. Scores of pandas are noticeably saddened by this and a few are even crying in public
Mitch Taylor Dark-Rising	Posted - 2009.07.24 04:52:00 - [25] Originally by: Hirana Yoshida Minmatar front has become a lame-as-can-be blob fest 24/7 Used to be once or twice during the week and on the weekends. Even with manageable lag gangs of the 50+ are no fun to fly in or fight against, no skill involved whatsoever except on the target callers part. Scores of pandas are noticeably saddened by this and a few are even crying in public waaaaaaaaaaaaaa qq.
EVIL SYNNs Wrath of Fenris	Posted - 2009.07.24 10:09:00 - [26] Edited by: EVIL SYNNs on 24/07/2009 10:09:12 Weirdest day yesterday. just weird. From all the POS's in Tama VANISHING! Squids just being crazy, doing silly things, jumping in and out, warping off, leaving 1 behind, who died in fire for the blob to come back to pick up their loot, fighting us on the station (jamming the primary), then they finally got a FC I guess, so we lost a couple of nice ships. But over all Tama was just mental yesterday (103 final blows to WOLFY in 24 hours), must have been boredom. However the cycle is turning, caldari are getting more numbers in their fleet again. I say this time next week they will have their 50+ fleets moving out of Nourv in our peek time and we'll have to go back to bait and switch. Have no idea why it happens, but I think I should write a book about it, cause its happened since day 1. Please resize your signature to the maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist
Suzie Slurp	Posted - 2009.07.24 10:44:00 - [27] NO U!!!!!11
Droog 1 Black Rise Inbreds	Posted - 2009.07.24 11:30:00 - [28] Originally by: Steve Celeste Originally by: Droog 1 5000+ Caldari managed to kill 14 Gallente ships in a 12 hour period from DT to midnight yesterday. In other news: 14 Gallente pilots actually undocked their ship in a 12 hour period from DT to midnight yesterday. Maybe, if you stopped getting killed in Tama over and over again and made it into Black Rise you would find the Gallente that are killing all your friends. I can assure you they are there and killing squids on a regular basis.
YORK CRAFT Caldari KRAFTWERK	Posted - 2009.07.24 11:51:00 - [29] Originally by: EVIL SYNNs Edited by: EVIL SYNNs on 24/07/2009 10:09:12 Squids just being crazy, doing silly things,... ... I say this time next week they will have their 50+ fleets moving out Hm, - indeed. I checked the KBs. You had some good kills yesterday. Must have been some eager Caldari Youngsters doing them silly things. - And your losses went on account of Andraz roaming fleet, which returned home through Tama. Caldari Blobbing? Thats also a rumour.
Corewin NoD Imperium	Posted - 2009.07.24 12:36:00 - [30] Originally by: Droog 1 Maybe, if you stopped getting killed in Tama over and over again and made it into Black Rise you would find the Gallente that are killing all your friends. I can assure you they are there and killing squids on a regular basis. While I will definately agree that Thunder Dome Tama is an idea that should surely be put out of the minds of any Caldari Militia member, the notion of "here and now" and the inescapable possibility that instant gratification is just a jump away appeals to most anyone when it comes to Pvp. Traveling 10 plus jumps out of a base of operations, only to come up with nothing, never sits well with any fleet. It nearly gets to the point that in order to keep everyone happy you have to do something out of the ordinary that really gets people excited about what they are about to do. However, even the extraordinary becomes common place after a while. When faction warfare first started out there was an excessive use of "blobs", on both sides mind you, and the battles they produced were on an epic and enjoyable scale. Simply stating a sizable fleet as a blob, while understandable, is just weak minded in truth. Form a fleet and take it on, have the motivation to come out and meet it. It's purely known that asides from plexing the only real reason faction warfare exists is for some straight up, no holds barred, breakfast of champions, throw downs. Every militia has the same ability as the Caldari to field a fleet of significant numbers. Lag will always be there but now is the time to take advantage of CCP's fix and get back to the roots of FW. I will even personally pledge that if an opposing fleet is on semi equal terms with my own (and that goes both ways), I will jump my fleet in first just to eliminate those unnecessary stand offs. If solo and small gang PVP is your thing then so be it, but don't hate on the Caldari for looking for some epic sized battles. Sorry bout the rant. -Corewin
EVIL SYNNs Wrath of Fenris	Posted - 2009.07.24 12:48:00 - [31] /me looks around confused? is that aimed at me? Its your game, play as you want. I'm just saying that for the past 4 weeks we have been in the ascendancy now it changes. As it has every 2 months for some reason. Please resize your signature to the maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist
Unfamed II Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United	Posted - 2009.07.24 13:03:00 - [32] +post count and hi Originally by: Sandslinger of CA So this wasn't a straightoff logoffski from our point of view, rather a tactical manoeuvre
Corewin NoD Imperium	Posted - 2009.07.24 13:18:00 - [33] Originally by: EVIL SYNNs /me looks around confused? is that aimed at me? Its your game, play as you want. I'm just saying that for the past 4 weeks we have been in the ascendancy now it changes. As it has every 2 months for some reason. I quoted Droog just to insure you wouldn't see it as a personnal attack, but rather a challenge to the gallente general 'Do nothing and smack about it' mass.
Corewin NoD Imperium	Posted - 2009.07.24 13:19:00 - [34] Originally by: Corewin I quoted Droog just to insure you wouldn't see it as a personnal attack, but rather a challenge to the gallente general 'Do nothing and smack about it' mass. Again not a personal attack. <3
YORK CRAFT Caldari KRAFTWERK	Posted - 2009.07.24 15:13:00 - [35] Originally by: Droog 1 Maybe, if you stopped getting killed in Tama over and over again and made it into Black Rise you would find the Gallente that are killing all your friends. I can assure you they are there and killing squids on a regular basis. Spare me, and I can assure you, you will not be 3xecuted by the Jem'Hadar. Nah but seriously, I always welcome new options on the field, might it be large fleets, small gang roams, new fleet setups aso. Pervs btw, are a good example of well performed solo and small gang roams.
Bad Messenger Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United	Posted - 2009.07.25 11:21:00 - [36] Gallente is quite dead. They have their tama camp and last rebells in nennamaila, but everywhere else is just some solo p****rs and some random fleets plexing. Those will not fight they just want to PVE. Gallente has mainly abandon Villore. Rest of the main gallente fw corps are moving quietly out of gallente militia and maybe joining to minmatar militia.
Djalkmarra	Posted - 2009.07.25 11:33:00 - [37] Qcats plexing away, plexing away... I suppose once they get a system vulnerable, that will be an achievement. But.. at that stage they will get rolled again... and probably give up that as well.
Unfamed II Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United	Posted - 2009.07.25 20:08:00 - [38] p**rs = p l e x e r s damn you, audrey Originally by:** Sandslinger of CA So this wasn't a straightoff logoffski from our point of view, rather a tactical manoeuvre
Juan Rayo Quantum Cats Syndicate	Posted - 2009.07.25 20:43:00 - [39] Originally by: Djalkmarra Qcats plexing away, plexing away... I suppose once they get a system vulnerable, that will be an achievement. But.. at that stage they will get rolled again... and probably give up that as well. La resistance lives on. Endurecete cabr=n!
chatgris Quantum Cats Syndicate	Posted - 2009.07.25 23:01:00 - [40] Originally by: Bad Messenger Gallente is quite dead. They have their tama camp and last rebells in nennamaila From my perspective, it's the caldari who are "dead". I couldn't find any targets last night in my TZ (EST) so I took my t1 hauler through low sec to collect loot I had stashed away from fights, did over 30 jumps, saw maybe 2 wt's the whole time, and they were docked. Saw a number of pirates though. One advantage of being up in nenna is that there are pirates to fight when the caldari won't come out to play. I must say though, I do wish the PERVS were also in the US TZ. I only run into you guys if I am up early on weekends/up late from the night before (and by late, I mean 5-6am), and the fights are almost always fun. I'm just hoping that the fw rewards will lure more caldari into lowsec, thus livening up fw again.
Dunk Dinkle Caldari State Protectorate	Posted - 2009.07.25 23:14:00 - [41] Well, I had fun last night. Our small Caldari fleet getting chased around by a larger Gallente fleet. I got left behind my faster fleet and got to have fun with my Blackbird as the orange fellows tried to point me. ECM at a distance is quite an defensive advantage, but there is no way I could kill anything. Warping in at range and tempting the guys on gate to burn toward me is endless fun. Chatgris figured out how to warp in close to me, but a frigate's sensor strength is no match for the Blackbird's defense. Of course, my 3 heavies won't even dent his shields when he's moving, let alone pop him. I don't take the fighting too seriously and enjoy the amicable chat in local.
Bad Messenger Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United	Posted - 2009.07.26 01:54:00 - [42] Originally by: chatgris Originally by: Bad Messenger Gallente is quite dead. They have their tama camp and last rebells in nennamaila From my perspective, it's the caldari who are "dead". I couldn't find any targets last night in my TZ (EST) so I took my t1 hauler through low sec to collect loot I had stashed away from fights, did over 30 jumps, saw maybe 2 wt's the whole time, and they were docked. Saw a number of pirates though. One advantage of being up in nenna is that there are pirates to fight when the caldari won't come out to play. I must say though, I do wish the PERVS were also in the US TZ. I only run into you guys if I am up early on weekends/up late from the night before (and by late, I mean 5-6am), and the fights are almost always fun. I'm just hoping that the fw rewards will lure more caldari into lowsec, thus livening up fw again. There is no reason to play with you. Plex more and force Caldari to defend. If we come to defend give fight and do not run as usual. FW main idea was to capture p**s and fight for them. Those plex fights are fun most of time but if gallente does not want to get in plex no can do. I know that most of caldari random fleets do not enter p**s either. I know there is no valid reason to plex but i think all that plexing i've done has been worth of it.
EVIL SYNNs Wrath of Fenris	Posted - 2009.07.26 10:59:00 - [43] Originally by: Bad Messenger Originally by: chatgris Originally by: Bad Messenger Gallente is quite dead. They have their tama camp and last rebells in nennamaila From my perspective, it's the caldari who are "dead". I couldn't find any targets last night in my TZ (EST) so I took my t1 hauler through low sec to collect loot I had stashed away from fights, did over 30 jumps, saw maybe 2 wt's the whole time, and they were docked. Saw a number of pirates though. One advantage of being up in nenna is that there are pirates to fight when the caldari won't come out to play. I must say though, I do wish the PERVS were also in the US TZ. I only run into you guys if I am up early on weekends/up late from the night before (and by late, I mean 5-6am), and the fights are almost always fun. I'm just hoping that the fw rewards will lure more caldari into lowsec, thus livening up fw again. There is no reason to play with you. Plex more and force Caldari to defend. If we come to defend give fight and do not run as usual. FW main idea was to capture p**s and fight for them. Those plex fights are fun most of time but if gallente does not want to get in plex no can do. I know that most of caldari random fleets do not enter p**s either. I know there is no valid reason to plex but i think all that plexing i've done has been worth of it. Damar was telling us that you hope we take some systems so you can get some LP... When I say us I mean the caldari militia. Please resize your signature to the maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist
Steve Celeste Caldari Overdogs	Posted - 2009.07.26 11:13:00 - [44] Originally by: Droog 1 Originally by: Steve Celeste Originally by: Droog 1 5000+ Caldari managed to kill 14 Gallente ships in a 12 hour period from DT to midnight yesterday. In other news: 14 Gallente pilots actually undocked their ship in a 12 hour period from DT to midnight yesterday. Maybe, if you stopped getting killed in Tama over and over again and made it into Black Rise you would find the Gallente that are killing all your friends. I can assure you they are there and killing squids on a regular basis. I go to Black Rise every day of the week and shoot stuff. But i agree that because we get a lot of new people in militia they just have to jump into Tama and die, yelling "we have to defend Tama" in our militia. **** Tama is my usual response :) It's laughable to see some of our militia camp our own highsec gate. You know who you are.
YORK CRAFT Caldari KRAFTWERK	Posted - 2009.07.26 11:39:00 - [45] Originally by: EVIL SYNNs Originally by: Bad Messenger ... FW main idea was to capture p**s and fight for them. Those plex fights are fun most of time but if gallente does not want to get in plex no can do. I know that most of caldari random fleets do not enter ps either. I know there is no valid reason to plex but i think all that plexing i've done has been worth of it. Damar was telling us that you hope we take some systems so you can get some LP... When I say us I mean the caldari militia. Well, I have to admit, Im not a p**r and pure pvp. But I definately support that, and you can grab tons of pvp out of this as a side-effect, thats for sure. Just look at Bad Messengers KB stats. Oh and Bad Messenger, not sure, but that might be an offer by Evil Synns, whos aware now of your will to defend every single plex in Black Rise.
EVIL SYNNs Wrath of Fenris	Posted - 2009.07.26 13:20:00 - [46] me? What? I did what to whom? Please resize your signature to the maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist

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