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morbatic	Posted - 2009.07.17 19:13:00 - [1] Hi guys, I tried to find the formula behind the calculation of the align time. If the point, I want warp to, is in my back, it takes much more time then EFT shows me. So this is not reliable to me. I' ve been trying searching for info regarding it but I haven' t been able to find the formula behind. Does anybody know the formula for calculating the align time? Thank you, morb
VanNostrum The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.07.17 19:16:00 - [2] did you try to warp to a point behind you while going ahead? or did you try it at 0m/s speed?
Zal Dakkar	Posted - 2009.07.17 19:40:00 - [3] Additional questions... How do speed mods (overdrive injector, nanofiber, rigs - not mwd/ab) affect the amount of time it takes to enter warp? For simplicity sake, let's say the ship is already aligned, and simply needs to accelerate from 0 to 3/4 of top speed. Is this acceleration time constant or what is it affected by?
Davinel Lulinvega	Posted - 2009.07.17 19:45:00 - [4] Originally by: Zal Dakkar Additional questions... How do speed mods (overdrive injector, nanofiber, rigs - not mwd/ab) affect the amount of time it takes to enter warp? For simplicity sake, let's say the ship is already aligned, and simply needs to accelerate from 0 to 3/4 of top speed. Is this acceleration time constant or what is it affected by? Only thing that matters is agility. Thus nano, istabs, and low friction nozzle joints will help, other stuff won't. Originally by: CCP Tuxford Now the op looks like a weirdo that can't read kekekeke! inb4 stealth edit
Zal Dakkar	Posted - 2009.07.17 19:48:00 - [5] Originally by: Davinel Lulinvega Originally by: Zal Dakkar Additional questions... How do speed mods (overdrive injector, nanofiber, rigs - not mwd/ab) affect the amount of time it takes to enter warp? For simplicity sake, let's say the ship is already aligned, and simply needs to accelerate from 0 to 3/4 of top speed. Is this acceleration time constant or what is it affected by? Only thing that matters is agility. Thus nano, istabs, and low friction nozzle joints will help, other stuff won't. But what about a mod like overdrive injector? it increases your top speed... so if acceleration remains constant then it would require a longer amount of time to reach 3/4 speed and enter warp?
Davinel Lulinvega	Posted - 2009.07.17 19:51:00 - [6] Originally by: Zal Dakkar Originally by: Davinel Lulinvega Originally by: Zal Dakkar Additional questions... How do speed mods (overdrive injector, nanofiber, rigs - not mwd/ab) affect the amount of time it takes to enter warp? For simplicity sake, let's say the ship is already aligned, and simply needs to accelerate from 0 to 3/4 of top speed. Is this acceleration time constant or what is it affected by? Only thing that matters is agility. Thus nano, istabs, and low friction nozzle joints will help, other stuff won't. But what about a mod like overdrive injector? it increases your top speed... so if acceleration remains constant then it would require a longer amount of time to reach 3/4 speed and enter warp? No. Acceleration is proportional to your top speed. So if you change only top speed without changing agility, the time to reach a given percent will be the same. Originally by: CCP Tuxford Now the op looks like a weirdo that can't read kekekeke! inb4 stealth edit
Zenvan	Posted - 2009.07.17 21:14:00 - [7] Just a thought here But I bellieve EFT is giving you an average align time so based upon how much of an angle you are orriented away from your target align time would increase or decrease Just a thought though
VanNostrum The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.07.17 21:49:00 - [8] i always thought that align time would be the time for your ship to go into warp when you select "warp to" i know it's not what "align" means but as you've all noticed those EFT align times don't make much sense
Iria Ahrens Amarr 101st Space Marine Force Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2009.07.17 22:23:00 - [9] Edited by: Iria Ahrens on 17/07/2009 22:23:21 I've found the align times pretty accurate. Are you comparing your current fit? The only reason I can think your align time would be higher is perhaps you are comparing an align time with MWD off in EFT, but you are trying to align with it on in game. MWD adds a good 7 seconds or so to align time. -- Nobody expects the Amarr Inquisition!
Fenren Minmatar Bure Astro Photography	Posted - 2009.07.18 10:45:00 - [10] Originally by: Zenvan Just a thought here But I bellieve EFT is giving you an average align time so based upon how much of an angle you are orriented away from your target align time would increase or decrease Just a thought though No EFT gives you the time it takes to get into warp if you are standing still and pointing in the right direction. After you jump throug a gate the ship doesnt have any vector (unless you wait for it to decloak, i believe) so EFT will give you the time it takes to get into warp after a gate jump
Bibbleibble	Posted - 2009.07.18 11:27:00 - [11] =-LN(0.25)/10^6(agility)mass)) At least that's what I have been using before EFT.... ________________________________________________ For changes to Minmatar Battleships click here (also with a review of the Muninn!)
CrazySpaceHobo	Posted - 2009.07.18 12:18:00 - [12] If you are stationary, your time to warp is the same regardless of direction. Ships in eve have no "direction" as it were unless they are moving, they're treated as a point, without a front or back.
Sokratesz Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2009.07.18 12:58:00 - [13] Originally by: CrazySpaceHobo If you are stationary, your time to warp is the same regardless of direction. Ships in eve have no "direction" as it were unless they are moving, they're treated as a point, without a front or back. Confirming this..time to warp is the same to any point as long as your speed = 0 m/s
Gavin DeVries	Posted - 2009.07.18 13:32:00 - [14] Yep, your velocity must be >= 3/4 your max speed in the direction of your warp destination before you can enter warp. If you have speed in another direction you have to lose it first, which makes your align time longer. ______________________________________________________ Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you?
Kazuo Ishiguro House of Marbles	Posted - 2009.07.18 13:49:00 - [15] Originally by: Bibbleibble =-LN(0.25)/10^6(agility)mass)) At least that's what I have been using before EFT.... It's also the one that EFT uses. --- 34.4:1 mineral compression ISRC Racing, Season 7 - schedule

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