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Kenny Kinkoid
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Posted - 2009.07.17 22:13:00 -
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since its a proven fact caldari ships cannot be used for pvp what options
are there? what is best race to crosstrain to get good pvp ships?
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Firenze93
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.07.17 22:14:00 -
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Train for Amarr
Moar Pew Pew.
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Thenoran
Caldari
22ND Myridian Strip Defensive Unit
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Posted - 2009.07.17 22:21:00 -
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 Originally by: Kenny Kinkoid
since its a proven fact caldari ships cannot be used for pvp what options
are there? what is best race to crosstrain to get good pvp ships?
*first looks at Drake, AML Caracal, Blackbird, Falcon, Cerberus, Rokh, Raven, Scorpion, Merlin, Kestrel*
*looks at the other Caldari ships*
What?
The ships are fine, maybe not if you're flying them, but they are just fine for PvP.
HAM Drake is just plain evil and geuss what? It's Caldari!  .
And the near-legendary Falcon is...Caldari! 
The only problem people have with it that they expect to be able to fit tackle, tank and gank like an Armor tanking ship and expect to the get the same or better results.
Problem with that is sharing midslots with tackle and tank.
It does leave Caldari ships with low-slots for damage modules, so in a gang Caldari ships come into their own even more. 
The only Caldari ship that REALLY needs looking into is the Hawk, but that's partially shared with the problem with Rockets.
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TaluxA
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Posted - 2009.07.17 22:24:00 -
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I get this strange feeling that this is a troll.
Anyway, Caldari have a bunch of good PvP ships. Crosstrain to whichever you like the most. All the races get good options for PvP.
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Kenny Kinkoid
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Posted - 2009.07.17 22:28:00 -
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Originally by: Thenoran
Originally by: Kenny Kinkoid
since its a proven fact caldari ships cannot be used for pvp what options
are there? what is best race to crosstrain to get good pvp ships?
*first looks at Drake, AML Caracal, Blackbird, Falcon, Cerberus, Rokh, Raven, Scorpion, Merlin, Kestrel*
*looks at the other Caldari ships*
What?
The ships are fine, maybe not if you're flying them, but they are just fine for PvP.
HAM Drake is just plain evil and geuss what? It's Caldari! .
And the near-legendary Falcon is...Caldari!
The only problem people have with it that they expect to be able to fit tackle, tank and gank like an Armor tanking ship and expect to the get the same or better results.
Problem with that is sharing midslots with tackle and tank.
It does leave Caldari ships with low-slots for damage modules, so in a gang Caldari ships come into their own even more.
The only Caldari ship that REALLY needs looking into is the Hawk, but that's partially shared with the problem with Rockets.
in our group we dont allow caldari ship because of poor quality. never seen a drake that is worth flying they can easily be taken down by assault frigates and cruisers
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NotNowKato
Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2009.07.17 22:46:00 -
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I think what Kenny here is trying to say is that Caldari is not "solo PVP" capable, fleet PVP is fine, but do expect to get primaried first as all leet fleets are armor tanked
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Kenny Kinkoid
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Posted - 2009.07.17 23:09:00 -
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Originally by: NotNowKato
I think what Kenny here is trying to say is that Caldari is not "solo PVP" capable, fleet PVP is fine, but do expect to get primaried first as all leet fleets are armor tanked
i mean caldari is no good for any pvp at all as evidence proves. so i guess best option is crosstrain minmitar or amarr
caldari is only ever for missions or trade
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Sera Ryskin
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Posted - 2009.07.18 00:01:00 -
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Troll rating: 0/10
This is a terrible troll effort, for two reasons:
1) The whole "Caldari suck at PvP" thing is way overdone. It's not 2006 anymore.
2) There's already a "Caldari suck at PvP" whine thread on the first page. It's generally best to troll with something different, not just spam the same old topics over and over again.
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Badmin
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Posted - 2009.07.18 01:02:00 -
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phone a friend.
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Pan Dora
Caldari
The Maverick Navy
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.07.18 01:37:00 -
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Originally by: Kenny Kinkoid
since its a proven fact caldari ships cannot be used for pvp what options
are there?
1.learn to fly caldari ships.
2.whinne
3.PVE
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Future Mutant
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2009.07.18 05:22:00 -
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Its kind of funny we get all these "caldari suck threads especially when caldari have some of the best pvp gang ships and the best pve ships
Drake is so good i hear ccp considered naming it Bait
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Artemis Rose
Sileo In Pacis
The Space P0lice
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Posted - 2009.07.18 05:42:00 -
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Xenophanes Colophon
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Posted - 2009.07.18 06:08:00 -
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Really? The ships suck at pvp? Don't tell that to Raven and Drake pilots. They're dedicated to the lie. Caldari missile boats are the answer to every "effective" tracking disruptor fit. When other ships can't hit, the Caldari still can. And then there's fof. In fleet Caldari really do shine, but they can definitely hold their own in pvp as well. Remember, there's a reason they had to nerf Falcon and it wasn't because the npcs were *****ing.
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Arthello
Pilots Of Honour
Aeternus.
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Posted - 2009.07.18 10:54:00 -
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You can't have everything. Like someone else already pointed out the Caldari has tremendous ratting power. I guess people are like that. They want it all. I'm Gallente and to be honest I was fed up with having to close withing <5000m to do any worthwhile damage, so I crosstrained to another faction a year ago. If you want it all you have to crosstrain, simple as that. All factions has a few ships that are exceptional and that includes Caldari, the rest is just mediocre as they should be. We can't have everybody running around with IWIN buttons in an MMO.
For the guy that has banned anything Caldari in their fleets: God I hope we run into you guys anytime soon. You sound like a bunch of easy kills. PvP in EVE isn't about fielding the top ships in every class it's about using the ships you got to their fullest potential. A cohesive organized gang with mediocre ships will always kill an unorganized gang with top ships, always.
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Kruger81
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Posted - 2009.07.18 12:12:00 -
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Originally by: Kenny Kinkoid
since its a proven fact caldari ships cannot be used for pvp what options
are there? what is best race to crosstrain to get good pvp ships?
WTF???
Harpy is awsome solo pvp boat FTW, Rokh is Awsome in PvP, Moa is awsome in PvP, and Caracal is a Friggkiller. Cerbs is a nasty gang PvP boat, Eagle is a exelent sniper.
And the ECM is of great value in PvP
Sooo, how can you say it's a fact they cannot be used??? 
If you are reffering to solo ships, then yeah Caldari only have a handfull, but so have rest of the Factions.
But still, harpy is awsome for solo, cerb is awsome for solo, and I have had great fun soloing in my moa  and my HAM drake(It pwn's!!!)
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Cromwell Savage
Kickin and Screamin Cadet force
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Posted - 2009.07.18 13:27:00 -
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Originally by: Kenny Kinkoid
since its a proven fact caldari ships cannot be used for pvp...
Hmmmm...I must have a different version of Eve...
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Devine Winds
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Posted - 2009.07.19 05:49:00 -
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Originally by: Kenny Kinkoid
Originally by: Thenoran
Originally by: Kenny Kinkoid
since its a proven fact caldari ships cannot be used for pvp what options
are there? what is best race to crosstrain to get good pvp ships?
*first looks at Drake, AML Caracal, Blackbird, Falcon, Cerberus, Rokh, Raven, Scorpion, Merlin, Kestrel*
*looks at the other Caldari ships*
What?
The ships are fine, maybe not if you're flying them, but they are just fine for PvP.
HAM Drake is just plain evil and geuss what? It's Caldari! .
And the near-legendary Falcon is...Caldari!
The only problem people have with it that they expect to be able to fit tackle, tank and gank like an Armor tanking ship and expect to the get the same or better results.
Problem with that is sharing midslots with tackle and tank.
It does leave Caldari ships with low-slots for damage modules, so in a gang Caldari ships come into their own even more.
The only Caldari ship that REALLY needs looking into is the Hawk, but that's partially shared with the problem with Rockets.
in our group we dont allow caldari ship because of poor quality. never seen a drake that is worth flying they can easily be taken down by assault frigates and cruisers
where do you guys hang out? Id love to cross paths....
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Tom Peeping
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Posted - 2009.07.20 00:44:00 -
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well, if by "proven" you mean that you've simply given up on them...
I guess if it's proven, I should just get rid of those drakes... they must not really tank 2 or 3 times better than any other BC (let alone most other ships)... I suppose I'll ditch the onyx... it surely must not be one of the best HICS out there. I'm sure the Cerb must not actually do much DPS after all. Rook must also be useless... even the falcon which can still get mount a few jams while boasting one of the best tanks of the recons must be totally worthless... I'm sure rooks and falcons will stop being primaried now that this thread is out. Those torp ravens must not be very good PVP ships either. The only thing I used to think of that caldari are bad at was sniping, but honestly even that's not really true...The list of course goes on... thanks for the heads up that regardless of actual experience, these ships are actually sub par... You'll see these ships on the market right away for very very cheap since they are all worthless.
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Tom Peeping
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Posted - 2009.07.20 00:45:00 -
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Originally by: Sera Ryskin
Troll rating: 0/10
This is a terrible troll effort, for two reasons:
1) The whole "Caldari suck at PvP" thing is way overdone. It's not 2006 anymore.
2) There's already a "Caldari suck at PvP" whine thread on the first page. It's generally best to troll with something different, not just spam the same old topics over and over again.
this honestly
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Lubomir Penev
Dark Nexxus
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Posted - 2009.07.20 08:57:00 -
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Originally by: Kenny Kinkoid
since its a proven fact caldari ships cannot be used for pvp what options
are there? what is best race to crosstrain to get good pvp ships?
Since it's a proven fact you're a complete failure at a human being, end yourself.
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TorrusTron
Caldari
Taiidan Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.07.20 12:22:00 -
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most simply go with the flow, lots of people say caldari are crappy for pvp, and so lots more people will just say that for the sake of fitting in.
try it for yourself. you may find that caldari ships dont suit your playing style, but to simply dismiss an entire race of ships is foolish
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Speartan
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Posted - 2009.07.20 12:30:00 -
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Originally by: Kenny Kinkoid
since its a proven fact caldari ships cannot be used for pvp what options
are there? what is best race to crosstrain to get good pvp ships?
Preven Fact? Prove it.
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Hurtado Soneka
Caldari
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2009.07.20 12:33:00 -
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prove the Raptor isnt just a big shuttle
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VanNostrum
The Littlest Hobos
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.07.20 12:45:00 -
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Originally by: Hurtado Soneka
prove the Raptor isnt just a big shuttle
prove the retribution isn't just a horrible tackler
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Hurtado Soneka
Caldari
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2009.07.20 13:09:00 -
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Originally by: VanNostrum
prove the retribution isn't just a horrible tackler
??? Its Khanid its one of the sexiest ships around, and itself isnt broken but its primary weapon class.
What do you want everything?
The raptor is completely without merit
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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.07.20 13:54:00 -
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Originally by: Hurtado Soneka
Originally by: VanNostrum
prove the retribution isn't just a horrible tackler
??? Its Khanid its one of the sexiest ships around, and itself isnt broken but its primary weapon class.
What do you want everything?
The raptor is completely without merit
Posting in a "lasers need a boost" thread!
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Sun Clausewitz
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Posted - 2009.07.20 15:00:00 -
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see my sig
And please, someone link me to one of those KillMails that show Falcons owning everything they come up against.
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Forranz
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2009.07.20 16:18:00 -
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Group of drakes + 2-3 basilisks = fun?
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Atillius
Caldari
The SOS Brigade
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Posted - 2009.07.20 19:57:00 -
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Wow....I must have a hack or something going, because I have no problem with Caldari ships in PvP....harpy, HAM Drake, Manticores, hawks, and my crow......
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Twilight Magester
Caldari
Foundation
Sons of Tangra
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Posted - 2009.07.21 03:24:00 -
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($^%$^%#*$^&#@%* My kessie can't solo stupid megathrons.
Confirming Caldari are USELESS!!!1
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