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tasman devil
Pangalactic Punks n' Playboys HUN Reloaded
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Posted - 2012.05.23 00:55:00 -
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Seems like any patch beginning with IN should be avoided at CCCP.
Either that or they are back to their good (?) old method of not giving a F... as to what other people (ie. their PAYING subscribers) say.
You can guess I give you that freedom, not unlike with this new "expansion" that is more like a patch than an actual release from where I see it.
So let us grind through the fabulous FEATURES again, shall we?
1: missiles Looks awesome and it's a petty that my rig can't handle it properly so no 60FPS for me I guess... must be running an old PC, I know I am so last year...
2: Graphics update Did you run out of GOLD for the Amarr, or is that the Minmatar lobby was too strong in your midst? Right now Amarr ships look dark and darker. No golden hulls for me. Silly me, I expected something shiny. Or is it the dark grim future that you are literally painting us in advance?
3: War declaration I haven't been in a war dec for some time now. And while I applaud the chance on the terms that fleeing a war is just ... meh, I do feel like that cost-scaling will only hurt small corps running a business.
4: Kill reports Cool, we had that for years, it's called eve killboards. There are at least a 100-300 (thousand) of them lying around on the net, programmed by third parties FOR FREE.
5: Mercenary marketplace Not sure it was what we really needed. (Bounty system anyone? I could give you advice on that for free!)
6: Factional Warfare I am sure as hell no one really needed THIS change. Altering FW - good, doing so on your own terms - bad. Every player comment I have read is negative towards stations changing hands every other day.
7: Modules Stuff that is not really necessary. I wonder how many Bhaalgorns will have to die to bring you this message...
8: Character creator 16 new skin tones, cool... a: I have already made my decision ; b: where is WiS so that I can groove with the other players "oh you used skin shade #15... you are so cheap!" ; c: don't care because I am using station view most times.
9: Unified inventory Almost every player cried on the test forums who tried it. STILL you added this feature. The only decent thing you COULD have done would have been to add a ticker at the settings: Do you want new shiny thingy? Yes/No. If yes then "you bought it, you broke it" if no then back to the old one. You added this option to the Walk In SmallSpaceAppartmentWithaBalcony thing, you know... Now where did I leave my large ammo for the gun?
10: Incursions Ripard Teg has a nice blog post about your fabulous Incursion revamp. Pretty much neutered the whole incursion stuff from where I can see.
11: Effects Bar Nice, although I really miss the option to lock up the whole bloody group by one click.
12: Opportunities What? Where? Mining? Don't be kidding me! You did not boosted mining, you negated other incomes. That is a BIG difference! And not a feature. I know Apple tried to sell the copypaste ... again ... but you could have guessed where this will lead: a bad taste in the mouth of most people (Datecores, anyone?)
13: more UI stuff Good, pitty it cannot add stuff properly together.
ps: I still do NOT make 100m ISK / h in high. Not with Incursions, not with mining and sure as hell not with running missions! I don't belive in reincarnation I've never believed in it in my previous lives either... |

NickyYo
StarHug
124
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Posted - 2012.05.23 01:05:00 -
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Wall of text of pure tears, not many replies to this thread ey? This will be my last.. - |

Ban Bindy
Bindy Brothers Pottery Association
143
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Posted - 2012.05.23 01:07:00 -
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What a fine and balanced review you have given to this expansion. Everything in it is wrong, you are right about everything. So everyone go home and OP will design the game from now on. |

tasman devil
Pangalactic Punks n' Playboys HUN Reloaded
4
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Posted - 2012.05.23 01:09:00 -
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NickyYo wrote:Wall of text of pure tears, not many replies to this thread ey? This will be my last.. I had to write it. Otherwise it would have been unheard...
I used to have a door that wouldn't open Then I got an un-closable window to the UI... I don't belive in reincarnation I've never believed in it in my previous lives either... |

Derrick Munroe
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
64
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Posted - 2012.05.23 01:11:00 -
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tl;dr
tasman devil wrote:None of the improvements affect me and therefore CCP has literally created Incarna 2.0, we should all unsub in protest!
Oh, and the unified inventory is awesome. |

tasman devil
Pangalactic Punks n' Playboys HUN Reloaded
4
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Posted - 2012.05.23 01:14:00 -
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Ban Bindy wrote:What a fine and balanced review you have given to this expansion. Everything in it is wrong, you are right about everything. So everyone go home and OP will design the game from now on. Neh, Effects bar is cool. I would be happier it it received more luv prior to release
Same with wardec: abandoning ship prohibited - good, raising money on the basis of corp membership count - bad.
And again by FW: altering FW - good, making stations change on a quick pace -bad I don't belive in reincarnation I've never believed in it in my previous lives either... |

tasman devil
Pangalactic Punks n' Playboys HUN Reloaded
4
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Posted - 2012.05.23 01:15:00 -
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Derrick Munroe wrote:tl;dr tasman devil wrote:None of the improvements affect me and therefore CCP has literally created Incarna 2.0, we should all unsub in protest! Oh, and the unified inventory is awesome. tl;dr
you do not understand any of it... I don't belive in reincarnation I've never believed in it in my previous lives either... |

Degren
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
354
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Posted - 2012.05.23 01:31:00 -
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Guess I'm staying away from GD for a few weeks, til all this badrage fades. :) |

tasman devil
Pangalactic Punks n' Playboys HUN Reloaded
6
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Posted - 2012.05.23 10:00:00 -
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Degren wrote:Guess I'm staying away from GD for a few weeks, til all this badrage fades. This is what CCP does too. Every. Friggin. Time.
Then after 2 months in seclusion, they come back a behave like the rage never happened...  I don't belive in reincarnation I've never believed in it in my previous lives either... |

Keno Skir
127
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Posted - 2012.05.23 10:13:00 -
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I actually read it all, was not worth my time.
OP, the bounty system has NEVER worked. Fix this and all your other points before i bother to read your work again :D The Apostle : I want a kangeroo Captain Kirk : Silly Austrians Sarmatiko : Let me guess: you're from US? Captain Kirk : Yeah Riverside IA - why? |

MisterNick
The Sagan Clan Persona Non Gratis
60
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Posted - 2012.05.23 10:27:00 -
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This is an impressive amount of gripe. I suggest chilling out and going outside "Fools! I'll show them all!"
What do you mean that one's already taken? |

knulla
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
49
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Posted - 2012.05.23 10:30:00 -
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Quote:I don't make 100 million ISK per hour in highsec, WAAAAAA, WAAAA, CCP SUCKS!!!
You should try out WoW, bye. |

Roime
Shiva Furnace Dead On Arrival Alliance
759
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Posted - 2012.05.23 10:34:00 -
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tasman devil wrote:Degren wrote:Guess I'm staying away from GD for a few weeks, til all this badrage fades. This is what CCP does too. Every. Friggin. Time. Then after 2 months in seclusion, they come back a behave like the rage never happened... 
No, because the rage is always ridiculous and caused by self-entitled people who can't handle changes, and most people just keep enjoying EVE.
Gallente - the choice of the interstellar gentleman |

Andemnon Kohort
Protagonists Of Doom
4
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Posted - 2012.05.23 10:35:00 -
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knulla wrote:Quote:I don't make 100 million ISK per hour in highsec, WAAAAAA, WAAAA, CCP SUCKS!!! You should try out WoW, bye.
as your the very definition of a WOW reject, its something you should be more than familiar with Knulla..
all you do is troll the forums with your alt insulting people.. maybe you were kicked out of WoW too...
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Roime
Shiva Furnace Dead On Arrival Alliance
760
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Posted - 2012.05.23 10:37:00 -
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tasman devil wrote:9: Unified inventory Almost every player cried on the test forums who tried it. STILL you added this feature. The only decent thing you COULD have done would have been to add a ticker at the settings: Do you want new shiny thingy? Yes/No. If yes then "you bought it, you broke it" if no then back to the old one. You added this option to the Walk In SmallSpaceAppartmentWithaBalcony thing, you know... Now where did I leave my large ammo for the gun?
Oh 
I can give you a hint- the ammo is not in your Ship Maintenance Array. Gallente - the choice of the interstellar gentleman |

Wacktopia
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
245
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Posted - 2012.05.23 10:37:00 -
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tasman devil wrote:7: Modules Stuff that is not really necessary. I wonder how many Bhaalgorns will have to die to bring you this message...
Please explain.
If you're in a player corp then war-dec is just something you have to accept is coming with it, regardless of your play-style. ~CCP |

impli
Tr0pa de elite. Against ALL Authorities
9
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Posted - 2012.05.23 10:42:00 -
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OP, wall of text stupid tears .. just go out and cry wherever .. Inferno is a good patch it needs to be adjusted a little bit more.
So CCP please close the Mimimimimi threat |

ACE McFACE
Acetech Systems
671
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Posted - 2012.05.23 10:45:00 -
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Unified inventory is good I just gotta go fast! |

Zenos Ebeth
An Eye For An Eye AN EYE F0R AN EYE
14
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Posted - 2012.05.23 11:02:00 -
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Wacktopia wrote:tasman devil wrote:7: Modules Stuff that is not really necessary. I wonder how many Bhaalgorns will have to die to bring you this message...
Please explain.
Pretty shure he is talking about cap batteries having a chance of reflecting cap neuting back at you.
As for the other mods , their concept is interesting , but need a slight buff to be worthwhile.
Also people need to stop whining about everything , i've seen it all from "inventory sucks" to "amarr v3 sucks" when are we getting a "expansion screen sucks" whine post ? |

knulla
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
50
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Posted - 2012.05.23 11:04:00 -
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Andemnon Kohort wrote:knulla wrote:Quote:I don't make 100 million ISK per hour in highsec, WAAAAAA, WAAAA, CCP SUCKS!!! You should try out WoW, bye. as your the very definition of a WOW reject, its something you should be more than familiar with Knulla.. all you do is troll the forums with your alt insulting people.. maybe you were kicked out of WoW too... 
WOW reject? WoW Is all inclusive, that is why I think the OP and you will love it over there, EVE is not an easy game, you see yet fail to understand
Also, I do not troll these forums, you just label me as such because you fail at life. |

Tri Yson
New Horizon Enterprises Beyond All Bounds
5
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Posted - 2012.05.23 11:07:00 -
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Now in STEREO! http://eve-search.com/thread/112201-1/page/1 |

Gul'gotha Derv'ash
Z3R0 RETURN MINING INC. Li3 Federation
14
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Posted - 2012.05.23 11:11:00 -
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Roime wrote:tasman devil wrote:Degren wrote:Guess I'm staying away from GD for a few weeks, til all this badrage fades. This is what CCP does too. Every. Friggin. Time. Then after 2 months in seclusion, they come back a behave like the rage never happened...  No, because the rage is always ridiculous and caused by self-entitled people who can't handle changes, and most people just keep enjoying EVE.
The problem a majority of the people have with this expansion isn't with change. It is the changes that were made even though almost everyone on Test said it was a terrible idea, pointed out bugs, glitches, etc, and were basically completely ignored.
CCP touts itself as a company that listens to its player base, but after each expansion it is clear that they are moving in a direction that really doesn't take into account anything the player base says. They only listen to what the CSM says, and we all know they have been pushing their own agenda for years. |

DarkAegix
Acetech Systems
1118
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Posted - 2012.05.23 11:12:00 -
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tasman devil wrote:I derped my pants
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St Mio
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
804
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Posted - 2012.05.23 11:16:00 -
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tasman devil wrote:I had to write it. Otherwise it would have been unheard... Some things (and people) are best left that way... |

Roime
Shiva Furnace Dead On Arrival Alliance
762
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Posted - 2012.05.23 11:20:00 -
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@ Gul'gotha Derv'ash
CCP actually listens to the player base, Crucible is one evidence of their ability to change direction that pleases their customers. CSM also played a role in this. Ship balancing ideas are discussed and changed according to player feedback, see AFs, titans, rig changes for examples.
CCP also runs periodical surveys to gather direct player feedback.
Inventory seems to have been rushed live with some bugs and unfinished details, but this is rather typical for software releases. I'm confident they will iron the quirks out soon enough, for me personally it has already decreased the hassle and time I spend in the inventory.
Unfortunately I don't consume the amounts of tinfoil required to believe in any CSM conspiracy theories. Gallente - the choice of the interstellar gentleman |

tasman devil
Pangalactic Punks n' Playboys HUN Reloaded
6
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Posted - 2012.05.23 12:01:00 -
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Keno Skir wrote:I actually read it all, was not worth my time.
OP, the bounty system has NEVER worked. Fix this and all your other points before i bother to read your work again :D Yeah it never worked, I am kinda sad because of that. I always wanted to be a bounty hunter, or Batman... Now I can only be Batman, always be Batman... 8)
Oh! Dear Lord!
St Mio wrote:tasman devil wrote:I had to write it. Otherwise it would have been unheard... Some things (and people) are best left that way... Thank you dear Sir, info assimilated.
Roime wrote:@ Gul'gotha Derv'ash
CCP actually listens to the player base, Crucible is one evidence of their ability to change direction that pleases their customers. CSM also played a role in this. Ship balancing ideas are discussed and changed according to player feedback, see AFs, titans, rig changes for examples.
CCP also runs periodical surveys to gather direct player feedback.
Inventory seems to have been rushed live with some bugs and unfinished details, but this is rather typical for software releases. I'm confident they will iron the quirks out soon enough, for me personally it has already decreased the hassle and time I spend in the inventory.
Unfortunately I don't consume the amounts of tinfoil required to believe in any CSM conspiracy theories.
My main concern is that I do not see the "improvements" CCP said they have done.
They said they will listen to the player base (which they did in the Crucible expansion - no point in arguing about it). And would have only needed to continue down that road. Now I see the EVE GD full of whine threads and mine is relatively modest compared to others. And this could have been averted if some people in the development department weren't so keen on pressing a release date (or a feature change) by (and through) all means.
ps. I filled out every survey they sent with the newsletters...
I don't belive in reincarnation I've never believed in it in my previous lives either... |

Malice Redeemer
Redeemer Group Joint Venture Conglomerate
79
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Posted - 2012.05.23 12:35:00 -
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tasman devil wrote:
My main concern is that I do not see the "improvements" CCP said they have done.
They said they will listen to the player base (which they did in the Crucible expansion - no point in arguing about it). And would have only needed to continue down that road. Now I see the EVE GD full of whine threads and mine is relatively modest compared to others. And this could have been averted if some people in the development department weren't so keen on pressing a release date (or a feature change) by (and through) all means.
ps. I filled out every survey they've sent with the newsletters...
this, so much this. These game of drones guys need to find other employment |

Alias Hentrah
Knightmares of Torments
2
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Posted - 2012.05.25 13:09:00 -
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tasman devil wrote: 1: missiles Looks awesome and it's a petty that my rig can't handle it properly so no 60FPS for me I guess... must be running an old PC, I know I am so last year...
I don't know why, but I can't see them fly! Even with rhyme, it's suck big time.
@knulla: If you liked the game where Kung-fu Pandas will be released in such hasty ways as CCP does it's releases (ie.: bugged as hell), I'd suggest, to pack your **** and get back to it. Less idiots would remain. kktybb |

Commandante Caldari
Dark-Rising
3
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Posted - 2012.05.25 13:34:00 -
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My theory is: People with a healthy social life will simply enjoy EVE and a good bunch of international people on TS.
P.S.: I am out into a sunny warm summer day to pick up my son from kindergarten and looking forward to a big smile when he sees me "hitting the out of office gate". |

Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
67
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Posted - 2012.05.25 13:40:00 -
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I think I've learned a new synonym for the word stupid.
"tasman devil", is a lack of intelligence, understanding, reason, wit, or sense. If you want instant gratification, go stimulate your genitals. EvE is Hard, deal with it. |

Zhihatsu
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
57
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Posted - 2012.05.25 14:04:00 -
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tasman devil wrote:1: missiles Looks awesome and it's a petty that my rig can't handle it properly so no 60FPS for me I guess... must be running an old PC, I know I am so last year...
What kind of video card are you using? It's been said over and over on here that ATI cards are having particular issues with the missiles. This isn't anything new to eve, ATI has had issues with many games in the past. Just look at Doom 3. Think of the UI change this way, if your mom bought you a really, really nice watch for christmas, but when you opened it it wasn't exactly the one you had wanted, or maybe the face was cracked on accident or it didn't fit. Would you scream in her face, tell her how worthless she is, and demand that she make this right? |

Kale Eledar
Mining and Industrial Services The Irukandji
46
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Posted - 2012.05.25 16:03:00 -
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You are going to love their next expansion. It's nicknamed "Win- you can please some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not please all of the people all of the time-o". It promises to be the most illustratively named expansion to date.
Kidding aside, I think everyone is open to constructive feedback, but a laundry list of complaints won't do much, unfortunately. I'd check to see if your drivers are updated. I have an ATI card that loves to take vigorous dumps whilst I am in a hostile system.
The Irukandji is recruiting PVP pilots! APPLY NAO. You won't regret it. See our info at : -áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=70811&find=unread |

John Caligan
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2012.05.25 18:08:00 -
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First of all, Your rig must be horrible, because I'm using a 5-year old laptop that used to run EVE at 30fps on a good day, shaders off, but textures and LOD still set to high, and now, I run at 60 FPS after Inferno, on the same laptop, with the same settings. Including the new missile effects and such.
Second, whilst starbases changing hands every other day is a bit of a pain in the arse, it at least makes FW make a semblance of sense. Quite frankly, I think they should take it one step further, and replace all starbases in war zones with POS-like Outposts which would have similar function, but would have to be destroyed to take the system, then your faction comes in and sets theirs up. Players storing items and ships in these outposts would not loose them upon the hangars and warehouses being destroyed, and will instead be returned to the item hangar in a station of their choice, through the Assets panel.
3rd: Unified Inventory actually is pretty awesome for me so far, only complaint is that when I hit the loot all button on a wreck or a can, it doesn't then close the window so I can react again.
And it's not supposed to be easy to make 100m/h in Hisec. I know. I've tried. |

Pohbis
Neo T.E.C.H.
67
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Posted - 2012.05.25 18:40:00 -
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I do like some of the changes.
Not enough meat to call it an expansion tho, maybe if they had balls to post about the missing stuff and tell us how it will be rolled out in Inferno 1.2 or so... but meh.
Good thing it's free ( alltho in this f2p era of mmos, you can hardly call it free when there is both a sub and a cashshop in your game ). |

Zhihatsu
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
57
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Posted - 2012.05.25 18:45:00 -
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Kale Eledar wrote:You are going to love their next expansion. It's nicknamed "Win- you can please some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not please all of the people all of the time-o". It promises to be the most illustratively named expansion to date.
Kidding aside, I think everyone is open to constructive feedback, but a laundry list of complaints won't do much, unfortunately. I'd check to see if your drivers are updated. I have an ATI card that loves to take vigorous dumps whilst I am in a hostile system.
Personally I've seen very little actual constructive feedback and a whole lot of gnashing of teeth and threatening to quit and even some real scary rage posts in response to an update that, despite its flaws, is actually a good idea and a needed update to one of the most used systems in the game. Think of the UI change this way, if your mom bought you a really, really nice watch for christmas, but when you opened it it wasn't exactly the one you had wanted, or maybe the face was cracked on accident or it didn't fit. Would you scream in her face, tell her how worthless she is, and demand that she make this right? |

Hannott Thanos
Notorious Legion
60
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Posted - 2012.05.25 19:36:00 -
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2/10 would not read again |

Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
177
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Posted - 2012.05.25 20:06:00 -
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tasman devil wrote:1: missiles: Looks awesome and it's a petty that my rig can't handle it properly so no 60FPS for me I guess... must be running an old PC, I know I am so last year... 2: Graphics update: Did you run out of GOLD for the Amarr, or is that the Minmatar lobby was too strong in your midst? Right now Amarr ships look dark and darker. No golden hulls for me. Silly me, I expected something shiny. Or is it the dark grim future that you are literally painting us in advance? 3: War declaration: I haven't been in a war dec for some time now. And while I applaud the chance on the terms that fleeing a war is just ... meh, I do feel like that cost-scaling will only hurt small corps running a business. 4: Kill reports: Cool, we had that for years, it's called eve killboards. There are at least a 100-300 (thousand) of them lying around on the net, programmed by third parties FOR FREE. 5: Mercenary marketplace: Not sure it was what we really needed. (Bounty system anyone? I could give you advice on that for free!) 6: Factional Warfare: I am sure as hell no one really needed THIS change. Altering FW - good, doing so on your own terms - bad. Every player comment I have read is negative towards stations changing hands every other day. 7: Modules: Stuff that is not really necessary. I wonder how many Bhaalgorns will have to die to bring you this message... 8: Character creator: 16 new skin tones, cool... a: I have already made my decision ; b: where is WiS so that I can groove with the other players "oh you used skin shade #15... you are so cheap!" ; c: don't care because I am using station view most times. 9: Unified inventory: Almost every player cried on the test forums who tried it. STILL you added this feature. The only decent thing you COULD have done would have been to add a ticker at the settings: Do you want new shiny thingy? Yes/No. If yes then "you bought it, you broke it" if no then back to the old one. You added this option to the Walk In SmallSpaceAppartmentWithaBalcony thing, you know... Now where did I leave my large ammo for the gun?10: Incursions: Ripard Teg has a nice blog post about your fabulous Incursion revamp. Pretty much neutered the whole incursion stuff from where I can see. 11: Effects Bar: Nice, although I really miss the option to lock up the whole bloody group by one click. 12: Opportunities: What? Where? Mining? Don't be kidding me! You did not boosted mining, you negated other incomes. That is a BIG difference! And not a feature. I know Apple tried to sell the copypaste ... again ... but you could have guessed where this will lead: a bad taste in the mouth of most people (Datecores, anyone?) 13: more UI stuff: Good, pitty it cannot add stuff properly together. 1. No issues with missile framerate despite all but one component in my PC being 3 years old. 2. Granted it's a little dark but Bronze > banana yellow any day 3. The new cost method has just shifted decshield methodologies, but it closed some other gaps nicely. 4. Nice to have it IN GAME and not need 3rd party tools to look at a kill 5. Merc marketplace and the bounty system are so different that I wonder if you know how either work 6. The rate at which systems change hands was nerfed. Do you actually read about the changes? 7. Unless everyone is wasting a mid on cap batteries all the sudden, this is a non issue 8. Some people use station and others use CQ. Some care about the avatars, some don't. Just because you don't doesn't mean it's a bad addition. 9. Choices mean more dev time to support both and slower updates to the game in general. Better to have change and continue to improve than to just do nothing with the most complained about aspect of the game (user interface) IMHO. 10. This is being revisited, most likely within the next 2 months 11. When were we ever able to do that? 12. When other incomes offer in large quantities something that is another occupation's sole product, that is abit of an issue. For mining this was resolve. For R&D this was... Well, were 1 of 2 I guess. 13. Not sure what you are referring to. |

Alias Hentrah
Knightmares of Torments
2
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Posted - 2012.05.25 23:28:00 -
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...
Composed a quite good post and EVE-Gate pissed on my head by removing everything out what I wrote.. Blimmy! |

Dranchela
Flashpoint Industries Imperial Hull Tankers
14
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Posted - 2012.05.25 23:30:00 -
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I swear, I haven't seen so many whinny little children since my son's first birthday party. Adapt or die, people. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
878
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Posted - 2012.05.25 23:32:00 -
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Hope EVE Online can adapt otherwise ... Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |

Xercodo
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Dark Matter Coalition
1097
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Posted - 2012.05.25 23:52:00 -
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Tyberius Franklin wrote:1. No issues with missile framerate despite all but one component in my PC being 3 years old. 2. Granted it's a little dark but Bronze > banana yellow any day 3. The new cost method has just shifted decshield methodologies, but it closed some other gaps nicely. 4. Nice to have it IN GAME and not need 3rd party tools to look at a kill 5. Merc marketplace and the bounty system are so different that I wonder if you know how either work 6. The rate at which systems change hands was nerfed. Do you actually read about the changes? 7. Unless everyone is wasting a mid on cap batteries all the sudden, this is a non issue 8. Some people use station and others use CQ. Some care about the avatars, some don't. Just because you don't doesn't mean it's a bad addition. 9. Choices mean more dev time to support both and slower updates to the game in general. Better to have change and continue to improve than to just do nothing with the most complained about aspect of the game (user interface) IMHO. 10. This is being revisited, most likely within the next 2 months 11. When were we ever able to do that? 12. When other incomes offer in large quantities something that is another occupation's sole product, that is abit of an issue. For mining this was resolve. For R&D this was... Well, were 1 of 2 I guess. 13. Not sure what you are referring to.
1. It seems to have been a driver issue last I saw when a dev was working on it
4. Not only that but it is instantly linkable into a chat (yay, no more paste attempts with cut off KMS \o/) and has links to all the modules and people involved as well as the ability to save the fit
6. The first guy seems to have forgotten that people have been whining about FW being left stale since at LEAST Apocrypha, maybe not all the changes are good ones or will just need some getting used to but don't ever say "we didn't ask for this"
7. Ya, I agree, I don't think that suddenly everyone and their month is gonna fit cap batteries, it's kinda like that little sneaky thing that no one really ever does anymore like tracking disruption and sensor damping. and FINALLY drone boats can be a threat without needing to rely on guns to be the other half of their DPS
8. They are also holding back on the rest of WiS BECAUSE of Incarna. They realized "woah hold on sec let's look at this......oh **** this is all based on what we had in Incarna and it all sucks just as much!....back to the drawing board, and let's do it RIGHT this time"
9. Not only is this correct but as a software dev myself the thought of implementing both systems side by side makes me shudder. I'd rather have two separate clients and if the back end stuff was bad enough I'd ask for a separate server too. The reason they were able to do a beta on TQ with the contract system back in Incursion was cause it was all just front end stuff. It was taking existing data and reorganizing it. The inventory system however took on so significant backend AND front end changes and obviously the old system's front end wouldn't play nice with the new system's back end.
11. By simply using the overview. The icons on the overview are still there so I dunno what the other guy is bitching about. I just used the effects panel to have a better "heads up" indication what's being done to me. Rather fitting that it's on the "Heads Up Display"
12. Personally I see it as an Un-featuring of the drone alloys. But really, what else can they do? You can't simply "buff mining". Ya know why? Cause player controlled market. If they increased the yields then everyone will be able to mine more and the value of ore goes down thus being seen as a nerf to the ISK per hour. They could make ore more scarce to increase mineral values there too though. Since the drone and loot changes already went in though, I want CCP to make a bigger mining ship or give a buff to the hulk or something. The individual miner needs to be able to mine more to come up with the "minerals per player" ratio that can keep the mineral prices low enough that T1 stuff doesn't feel so expensive but make the yield for an individual player high enough to compete with stuff like missions.
13. Ya, neither am I tbh... The Drake is a Lie |

Selinate
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Posted - 2012.05.26 00:33:00 -
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Other than the fact that I have the skin tone of a piece of charcoal, I really don't see what's wrong with inferno... |

tasman devil
Pangalactic Punks n' Playboys HUN Reloaded
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Posted - 2012.05.28 17:29:00 -
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Selinate wrote:Other than the fact that I have the skin tone of a piece of charcoal, I really don't see what's wrong with inferno... lol...:) I don't belive in reincarnation I've never believed in it in my previous lives either... |

Tarn Kugisa
Space Mongolian THE UNTHINKABLES
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Posted - 2012.05.28 17:52:00 -
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Am I the only one who almost never complains about the awesome new features? Seriously now, if you don't like something, complain about it in Test Server Feedback before it gets implemented into TQ. I Endorse this Product and/or Service [url]https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=16580[/url] |

Simetraz
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.28 18:17:00 -
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SO your not happy with what CCP released.
Was there something else you would have preferred instead ?
Normally a discussion allows a person to propose their own ideas along with shooting down the ideas/work of another.
Especially sense you started the thread.
So you didn't like features x and y and you would have rather seen what ?
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Moonasha
Fweddit
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Posted - 2012.05.28 18:32:00 -
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I love the UI. Sure it has a few bumps to be smoothed out, but it's a hell of a lot better than it was before. FW is certainly better than it was before as well, but it still feels like it's lacking something. |

Easthir Ravin
Easy Co. Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2012.05.28 18:56:00 -
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Greetings
BLUF: The OP is just whining. I just like to spread my thoughts around to all the similar posts.
That said, lets be honest with ourselves. By the time something hits Sisi it is too late to stop it from the expansion. It is basically a sounding board for the players to the Devs as to what will need to be looked at in future iterations. Personally I do not have issues with the intent of the new stuff and I realize change is always a rocky transition. As long as I have been playing these expansions has never been smooth. I have incredible empathy for the poor Devs who have to sift through the tripe in these posts for the truly good ideas. My advice would be to help with constructive ideas rather than the rants we have seen in the majority of these CAP riddled posts.
Call me naive but I believe CCP has the best interest of the game in mind when the good idea fairy rears its ugly head. Sometimes things work out, Crucible and sometimes not, Incarna. Kudos do go to them for at least listening to their player base when things go awry. Others developers are not so accommodating.
Everyone needs to relax and take a deep breath. Note where things have gone awry and bring them up in an appropriate manor as apposed to b*tching in the GD forum like a little girl....me no likie anything, me quit.
vr East IN THE IMORTAL WORDS OF SOCRATES: -á" I drank WHAT?!" |

Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2012.05.28 19:20:00 -
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isnt CCCP russian?
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Drew Solaert
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.28 19:28:00 -
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I disagree with you on everysingle point
Has been an epic expansion and I hope CCP keep it up I lied :o
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Reverend Father
Hydra Squadron
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Posted - 2012.05.28 19:30:00 -
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My son
Complaining is foolish.
Either Act.... or Forget. |
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