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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.09.28 10:44:00 -
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Well, the best option would actually be moving your production and mining people to the south and keeping a fwe fighting-oriented people in frgis in the north.
If you have a chance to fight some reasonably veteran fighters take it with both hands, cause in 3 months you are going to look back and think it was the best time of your early game experience. _______________________________________________
Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues. |

Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.09.28 10:44:00 -
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Well, the best option would actually be moving your production and mining people to the south and keeping a fwe fighting-oriented people in frgis in the north.
If you have a chance to fight some reasonably veteran fighters take it with both hands, cause in 3 months you are going to look back and think it was the best time of your early game experience. _______________________________________________
Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues. |

Andrue
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Posted - 2004.09.28 12:24:00 -
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Originally by: Solloeb sorry but its no fair on smaller corps with out any alliances when a big corp not to mention any names (Biomass Cartel) just wage war on you for fun [snip]
Rent an office a long way away from your main operations and make it your HQ. Chances are they'll spend a few days trying to camp it and/or the area and will give up through boredom. -- (Battle hardened miner)
[Brackley, UK]
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Andrue
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Posted - 2004.09.28 12:24:00 -
[34]
Originally by: Solloeb sorry but its no fair on smaller corps with out any alliances when a big corp not to mention any names (Biomass Cartel) just wage war on you for fun [snip]
Rent an office a long way away from your main operations and make it your HQ. Chances are they'll spend a few days trying to camp it and/or the area and will give up through boredom. -- (Battle hardened miner)
[Brackley, UK]
WARNING:This post may contain large doses of reality. |

Raem Civrie
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Posted - 2004.09.28 13:27:00 -
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Quote: 1. call in Seleene and pay more, but keep your honour. 2. call their bluff and denounce them on the forums like this. 3. move house to somewhere in the south, where biomass isnt frequently seen and most likely will not bother following for the price of a single battleship.
We started in this, extorting corporations for money. The reason being that alot of our guys were using new characters (beta players returning) and had to adjust to changes. No-one was going to hire us. So we wiped out a couple of corps who all refused to pay (no-one did, and we wiped them out. Literally. They don't exist anymore), and suddenly we got a bit of notoriety. Now we're happily contracted most of the time, but we target larger empire corps from time to time that do something to tick us off. It's not always personal, not always professional. But we always go for the kill.
As for targeting one-man corps and up to 20-man corps, I don't see the point. Most of the time will be spent camping, and there will be no actual challenge or fighting.
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Raem Civrie
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Posted - 2004.09.28 13:27:00 -
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Quote: 1. call in Seleene and pay more, but keep your honour. 2. call their bluff and denounce them on the forums like this. 3. move house to somewhere in the south, where biomass isnt frequently seen and most likely will not bother following for the price of a single battleship.
We started in this, extorting corporations for money. The reason being that alot of our guys were using new characters (beta players returning) and had to adjust to changes. No-one was going to hire us. So we wiped out a couple of corps who all refused to pay (no-one did, and we wiped them out. Literally. They don't exist anymore), and suddenly we got a bit of notoriety. Now we're happily contracted most of the time, but we target larger empire corps from time to time that do something to tick us off. It's not always personal, not always professional. But we always go for the kill.
As for targeting one-man corps and up to 20-man corps, I don't see the point. Most of the time will be spent camping, and there will be no actual challenge or fighting.
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Norsten
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Posted - 2004.09.28 15:21:00 -
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What is the purpose of condorde if not to protect those who wish to reside in empire space, a corporation of vets should not be allowed to attack whom ever they please with no intervention from concorde.
If an NY gang, politics aside, decided to go around killing employees of a particular company, again politics aside, the police would intervene and protect those who needed it.
There is NO difference between killing someone at random in empire space and declaring war on a a corp of your choice and killing off its members right under the noses of Concorde, apart from the fact the concorde will protect you in one, and not the other
Doesnt make sense to me and I beleive this to be a mistake on CCP's part not to alter it. Whats secure about secure space? nothing.
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Norsten
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Posted - 2004.09.28 15:21:00 -
[38]
What is the purpose of condorde if not to protect those who wish to reside in empire space, a corporation of vets should not be allowed to attack whom ever they please with no intervention from concorde.
If an NY gang, politics aside, decided to go around killing employees of a particular company, again politics aside, the police would intervene and protect those who needed it.
There is NO difference between killing someone at random in empire space and declaring war on a a corp of your choice and killing off its members right under the noses of Concorde, apart from the fact the concorde will protect you in one, and not the other
Doesnt make sense to me and I beleive this to be a mistake on CCP's part not to alter it. Whats secure about secure space? nothing.
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Tolkh
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Posted - 2004.09.28 16:10:00 -
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I don't know much about wars. I was wondering if there is a limit on the number of war a corp can have ? Is there a fee to start a war ? to maintain it ? Are pirate corps basically declaring wars on everyone ? There must be a limit of some sort or I'm missing something.
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Tolkh
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Posted - 2004.09.28 16:10:00 -
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I don't know much about wars. I was wondering if there is a limit on the number of war a corp can have ? Is there a fee to start a war ? to maintain it ? Are pirate corps basically declaring wars on everyone ? There must be a limit of some sort or I'm missing something.
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Mang0o
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Posted - 2004.09.28 17:33:00 -
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im a bad bad boy! No you just can¦t a-have-a the Mang0o |

Mang0o
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Posted - 2004.09.28 17:33:00 -
[42]
im a bad bad boy! No you just can¦t a-have-a the Mang0o |

Danks
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Posted - 2004.09.28 17:39:00 -
[43]
War is fine the way it is.
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Danks
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Posted - 2004.09.28 17:39:00 -
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War is fine the way it is.
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Mang0o
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Posted - 2004.09.28 17:54:00 -
[45]
can cpp plz leave one thing we pvpers have.. not make the hole game to a ******* carebear game!!!!!!   No you just can¦t a-have-a the Mang0o |

Mang0o
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Posted - 2004.09.28 17:54:00 -
[46]
can cpp plz leave one thing we pvpers have.. not make the hole game to a ******* carebear game!!!!!!   No you just can¦t a-have-a the Mang0o |

Raven Norsca
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Posted - 2004.09.28 18:24:00 -
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Solleb if what your saying is true than I would have everyone in your corporation file a harrasment petiton against the players doing this
This is not extoriton as you have nothing to give. this is not a war as you can't fight them. Your only option shouldn't be to run to another system, or to abandon your corp.
Bio-mass is just harrassing your players.
The rest is up to CCP as to wether or not they care enough to put a stop to this bull****
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Raven Norsca
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Posted - 2004.09.28 18:24:00 -
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Solleb if what your saying is true than I would have everyone in your corporation file a harrasment petiton against the players doing this
This is not extoriton as you have nothing to give. this is not a war as you can't fight them. Your only option shouldn't be to run to another system, or to abandon your corp.
Bio-mass is just harrassing your players.
The rest is up to CCP as to wether or not they care enough to put a stop to this bull****
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Kerixi
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Posted - 2004.09.28 18:53:00 -
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Sollo, I gave you a hand yesterday cause I was being nice and personally I do think Biomass are harrassing your corp.....BUT....you've been asking many people in many corps for help and advice now and they've all told you the same things, file petitions, move, join an alliance, disband etc etc. If you choose not to follow this advice then sorry but I dun think Biomass are gonna stop. And they certainly wont if you and your corp keep being stupid enough to smack talk them at every opportunity. No-one likes a wiseass and if you cant accept and try people's advice then pretty soon we're all gonna stop helping. ````````````` _ |\_ ````````````` \` oo\ ````````_____/ =__Y= `````` /` `````` ) `_``` / ` , ``` \/\_. ((____| `` )_--\ \_-` `------'`------` `--` Fuzzpuss Inc. |

Kerixi
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Posted - 2004.09.28 18:53:00 -
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Sollo, I gave you a hand yesterday cause I was being nice and personally I do think Biomass are harrassing your corp.....BUT....you've been asking many people in many corps for help and advice now and they've all told you the same things, file petitions, move, join an alliance, disband etc etc. If you choose not to follow this advice then sorry but I dun think Biomass are gonna stop. And they certainly wont if you and your corp keep being stupid enough to smack talk them at every opportunity. No-one likes a wiseass and if you cant accept and try people's advice then pretty soon we're all gonna stop helping. ````````````` _ |\_ ````````````` \` oo\ ````````_____/ =__Y= `````` /` `````` ) `_``` / ` , ``` \/\_. ((____| `` )_--\ \_-` `------'`------` `--` Fuzzpuss Inc. |

Solloeb
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Posted - 2004.09.28 20:44:00 -
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Edited by: Solloeb on 28/09/2004 21:29:00 i have filed a pettition gm's sais they cannot help us they just say the same as you guys :(
any way we currently considering our options the ones u gave us so we gonna decide tommorow or something on what to do about this
i thank every one whos been supportive now we just have to see what happens especially Kerixi who helped me out of a system snuggled my thorax safe and sound out of there Gofur and Tenno i Salute u all will tell ya all what has happend tommorow :)
At one point in life a man has to make a disicion one that he will have to face the rest of his life .......
Will i eat the cookie or wont i ? |

Solloeb
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Posted - 2004.09.28 20:44:00 -
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Edited by: Solloeb on 28/09/2004 21:29:00 i have filed a pettition gm's sais they cannot help us they just say the same as you guys :(
any way we currently considering our options the ones u gave us so we gonna decide tommorow or something on what to do about this
i thank every one whos been supportive now we just have to see what happens especially Kerixi who helped me out of a system snuggled my thorax safe and sound out of there Gofur and Tenno i Salute u all will tell ya all what has happend tommorow :)
At one point in life a man has to make a disicion one that he will have to face the rest of his life .......
Will i eat the cookie or wont i ? |

Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.09.28 21:55:00 -
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Originally by: Solloeb Edited by: Solloeb on 28/09/2004 21:29:00 i have filed a pettition gm's sais they cannot help us they just say the same as you guys :(
any way we currently considering our options the ones u gave us so we gonna decide tommorow or something on what to do about this
i thank every one whos been supportive now we just have to see what happens especially Kerixi who helped me out of a system snuggled my thorax safe and sound out of there Gofur and Tenno i Salute u all will tell ya all what has happend tommorow :)
Ok, some free extra advice. Just things that you would have to learn the hard way unless someone else tells you about it:
1. Pirate corps declaring war on you can have 5 wars active at any time that they initaiated. If they are in this buisiness that means they should consider their initaiated wars (oftenly called war slots) as being a commodity worth not being thrown around at just any target. They will decide wether or not to actively pursue the war against you based on some factors like profitability, how much they dislike you, how easy you are to find, how easy you are to kill and how bored they are at the moment.
This means that if you can make sure they have no easy targets around by either hiding or moving and can make sure profitability is nonexistant and that they have no particular reason to dislike you mroe then others, they will retract the war quite fast in favour of a new target.
2. NEVER smacktalk against a vet corp like biomass. They dont like it, and as you noticed they have the power to make your life pretty miserable. Actually, unless you know the corp you are smacktalking, dont smacktalk ANY corp. You don't know who the vets are, a new corp does not mean new players.
3. Don't spend 3 days deciding what to do in a situation like this. Decide in 3 hours what you are going to do about a war declaration. You have 3 options: pay, fight, move. It's not that difficult is it ? If you can't/won't pay and can't win the fight, you move.
4. Always have an office stocked with some basic production gear at the other side of the galaxy. Do not make it your HQ, do not go there too often and get noticed. Take a system a good way from the highway but still in high sec space. This is your hiding place, where you can spend the two weeks it takes for your enemy to retract the war doing the same things you did before, just elsewhere.
With Shiva the war system is going to change. Having alot of open wars will cost the initiating party isk that they can't earn back in fun or otherwise if the target is a corp like yours. So you will be seeing these kind of wars decrease in a month or so. _______________________________________________
Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues. |

Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.09.28 21:55:00 -
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Originally by: Solloeb Edited by: Solloeb on 28/09/2004 21:29:00 i have filed a pettition gm's sais they cannot help us they just say the same as you guys :(
any way we currently considering our options the ones u gave us so we gonna decide tommorow or something on what to do about this
i thank every one whos been supportive now we just have to see what happens especially Kerixi who helped me out of a system snuggled my thorax safe and sound out of there Gofur and Tenno i Salute u all will tell ya all what has happend tommorow :)
Ok, some free extra advice. Just things that you would have to learn the hard way unless someone else tells you about it:
1. Pirate corps declaring war on you can have 5 wars active at any time that they initaiated. If they are in this buisiness that means they should consider their initaiated wars (oftenly called war slots) as being a commodity worth not being thrown around at just any target. They will decide wether or not to actively pursue the war against you based on some factors like profitability, how much they dislike you, how easy you are to find, how easy you are to kill and how bored they are at the moment.
This means that if you can make sure they have no easy targets around by either hiding or moving and can make sure profitability is nonexistant and that they have no particular reason to dislike you mroe then others, they will retract the war quite fast in favour of a new target.
2. NEVER smacktalk against a vet corp like biomass. They dont like it, and as you noticed they have the power to make your life pretty miserable. Actually, unless you know the corp you are smacktalking, dont smacktalk ANY corp. You don't know who the vets are, a new corp does not mean new players.
3. Don't spend 3 days deciding what to do in a situation like this. Decide in 3 hours what you are going to do about a war declaration. You have 3 options: pay, fight, move. It's not that difficult is it ? If you can't/won't pay and can't win the fight, you move.
4. Always have an office stocked with some basic production gear at the other side of the galaxy. Do not make it your HQ, do not go there too often and get noticed. Take a system a good way from the highway but still in high sec space. This is your hiding place, where you can spend the two weeks it takes for your enemy to retract the war doing the same things you did before, just elsewhere.
With Shiva the war system is going to change. Having alot of open wars will cost the initiating party isk that they can't earn back in fun or otherwise if the target is a corp like yours. So you will be seeing these kind of wars decrease in a month or so. _______________________________________________
Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues. |

Znaei
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Posted - 2004.09.28 22:00:00 -
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The war system should not need to have both parties agree on the war. But it would be feasible to allow the corp that has been war dec'd, to withdraw the war. That process could/should take 4-7 days to complete.
clagnuts> im drunk just come back from pirates night in spain , wtf i thought it was some eve guys getting together for a drink , turned out to be a feken real pirates show , doh |

Znaei
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Posted - 2004.09.28 22:00:00 -
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The war system should not need to have both parties agree on the war. But it would be feasible to allow the corp that has been war dec'd, to withdraw the war. That process could/should take 4-7 days to complete.
clagnuts> im drunk just come back from pirates night in spain , wtf i thought it was some eve guys getting together for a drink , turned out to be a feken real pirates show , doh |

Charim Tradiv
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Posted - 2004.09.29 01:18:00 -
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hey ppl .. it happens in real life. One nation can bully a defenceless nation for their resources.
it's pretty much fair in Eve too since .. Eve is played by humans.
what we really need now .. is a skill to fly Iteron V filled with nukes into their fleets :D
Glory to the Freedom Fighters :D |

Charim Tradiv
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Posted - 2004.09.29 01:18:00 -
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hey ppl .. it happens in real life. One nation can bully a defenceless nation for their resources.
it's pretty much fair in Eve too since .. Eve is played by humans.
what we really need now .. is a skill to fly Iteron V filled with nukes into their fleets :D
Glory to the Freedom Fighters :D |

woodman az
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Posted - 2004.09.29 01:32:00 -
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I would like to form a corp with my alt but can't afford a war.
why can CCP make it so each corp has to have 10 or more players before a war can be declared.
that way us freelancer that only have 2 -4 toons can have fun too.
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woodman az
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Posted - 2004.09.29 01:32:00 -
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I would like to form a corp with my alt but can't afford a war.
why can CCP make it so each corp has to have 10 or more players before a war can be declared.
that way us freelancer that only have 2 -4 toons can have fun too.
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