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kessah
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.07.19 20:32:00 -
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Well for those that dont know, rigs will soon be affordable for Battlcruisers, which will clearly improve their popularity along with cruisers. Hurrah.
So im going to post my secret setup, actually posted this over a year ago, but i was deemed a heretic (to put it nicely).
This fits for those select few that see things alittle differently
Kessahs Setup
Yes i know i posted with the overload, but i know that if you ever get into a fight 1v1 with a battlecruiser, trimarks or not, you will win. No Battlecruiser can do over 928dps overloaded with a realistic setup (unless pimped out and why would they do that unless rich or/and stupid).
14 800 charges and enough wallop, agility and cap to hold your own for a good while. Its tried and tested, so nay sayers can sit back and gloat in there intellectual materialism.
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VaderDSL
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2009.07.19 20:40:00 -
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Used to run a triple rep on my damnation, it's kinda situational but it can work, especially with a damnation in the fleet
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kessah
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.07.19 20:45:00 -
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Well i play a ships bonuses, its much more situational in low sec, in blob/0.0 warfare you will be better plating up, but tbh a myrmidon is a CQ (close quarter) ship and its bonuses are clear. The Myrmidon is a more popular empire vessel.
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Kaileen Starsong
Amarr Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2009.07.19 20:49:00 -
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You're implying that everyone goes point-blank in a BC 1v1.. that's actually quite a good bet(I know, I myself load Hail vs Myrms :)). Pretty much anything that will stay at distance will be able to run this Myrm down. Alas.. bringing friend is better option :)
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Fifi LeFume
No Trademark
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Posted - 2009.07.19 20:50:00 -
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Although a bit unorthodox, I don't see any major problems with the setup. I'll have to give it a shot sometime.
Although I'm a bit wary about going through capboosters too fast using dual injection, I guess that if you're fighting another BC, the dps won't be higher than 700-800 tops (worst case scenario being a shield tanked neutron brutix) and you can pulse the 3rd repper as needed during the fight.
Props for a unique and yet seemingly effective setup
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Wideen
Warped Mining Strip Mining Club
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Posted - 2009.07.19 20:52:00 -
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I like it
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kessah
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.07.19 20:53:00 -
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Originally by: Fifi LeFume Although a bit unorthodox, I don't see any major problems with the setup. I'll have to give it a shot sometime.
Although I'm a bit wary about going through capboosters too fast using dual injection, I guess that if you're fighting another BC, the dps won't be higher than 700-800 tops (worst case scenario being a shield tanked neutron brutix) and you can pulse the 3rd repper as needed during the fight.
Props for a unique and yet seemingly effective setup
I have frapsed teh fights
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me0de
Holographic Universe
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Posted - 2009.07.19 21:00:00 -
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Fixed.
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FT Diomedes
Gallente Factio Paucorum
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Posted - 2009.07.19 21:08:00 -
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Originally by: me0de Fixed.
I laughed.
...this doesn't even seem to be a regular case of rats fleeing the sinking ship. Seems more like the rats are on fire, the ship is on fire, and the sea is full of drunk Russians. - Jacob Etienne |
kessah
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.07.19 21:29:00 -
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Edited by: kessah on 19/07/2009 21:33:51
Originally by: me0de Fixed.
Not sure why i get done in for this? people fly in gangs of 20+ or fly with falcon alts or use there alts as scouts, but im singled out for some odd reason and get done in for this tactic?
First of all you need to adapt to eve, its the most punishing game you can play and if you dont like my tactics well i politely ask you to get bent
Second of all, i sold my 2nd account and canceled my 2nd Subscription about 8 months ago so the fraps i have is completly solo.
I dont jam my targets, i dont blob my targets, i dont remote rep with a guardian, i 'used' my alt as a cap recharger that help me rep myself locally, tbh i think that puts me a one stand about 99% of eve - who tbh will just join up with 10 of there buddies.
People like you will tear anyone down for using anything they didnt think of, or using something out of there means.
Well TOUGH ****
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kessah
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.07.19 21:51:00 -
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Originally by: me0de Fixed.
Fixed :D
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AtheistOfDoom
Amarr The Athiest Syndicate Advocated Destruction
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Posted - 2009.07.19 22:24:00 -
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Originally by: kessah
Originally by: me0de Fixed.
Fixed :D
I've tested a friend's triple rep myrm before against my 3 heat sink HPL II gank harbinger. His tank failed and he entered hull in under a minute with 3 overloaded reps. Pew Pew Lazorz!!! |
kessah
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.07.19 22:27:00 -
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Originally by: AtheistOfDoom
Originally by: kessah
Originally by: me0de Fixed.
Fixed :D
I've tested a friend's triple rep myrm before against my 3 heat sink HPL II gank harbinger. His tank failed and he entered hull in under a minute with 3 overloaded reps.
1v1?
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AtheistOfDoom
Amarr The Athiest Syndicate Advocated Destruction
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Posted - 2009.07.19 22:31:00 -
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Edited by: AtheistOfDoom on 19/07/2009 22:33:06
Originally by: kessah
1v1?
yes. He overloaded and entered hull in 1m 20s with everything overloaded. My buffer tank would last much, much longer.
EDIT: he had battlecruisers 3, but it was 2x aux nano 1x nano acc rigged. Pew Pew Lazorz!!! |
Myra2007
Shafrak Industries
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Posted - 2009.07.19 22:43:00 -
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I am not much into myrs as i don't like them, but...
What if you meet a rather standard dual rep myrmidon? It should be able to tank your 500dps rather comfortably and will sustain cap longer than you. I would also assume that it may afford to drop a cap booster for a tracking disruptor or other things that provide a little edge. Maybe it has energy neuts or nos.
I could also see you dieing (eventually) to a dual-repped hurricane that you fail to pin down. Or maybe to a plated hurricane with 2 x med neut but not so sure about that because you should be able to mitigate with good timing i guess.
Anyway i think its not so clear-cut. --
Originally by: Jasper Dark
I agree! Lets go back into caves and lick rocks!
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Myra2007
Shafrak Industries
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Posted - 2009.07.19 22:44:00 -
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Originally by: AtheistOfDoom Edited by: AtheistOfDoom on 19/07/2009 22:33:06
Originally by: kessah
1v1?
yes. He overloaded and entered hull in 1m 20s with everything overloaded. My buffer tank would last much, much longer.
I think he meant to throw you a gauntlet. --
Originally by: Jasper Dark
I agree! Lets go back into caves and lick rocks!
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me0de
Holographic Universe
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Posted - 2009.07.19 22:50:00 -
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Originally by: kessah Edited by: kessah on 19/07/2009 21:33:51
Originally by: me0de Fixed.
Kessah speech
It was a joke about it being a capbooster junkie fit, chill brah
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Davinel Lulinvega
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Posted - 2009.07.19 22:54:00 -
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I don't get it. Solo your overtanked underganked ship can easily be kited or straight out tanked by...pretty much any of the good battlecruisers or hacs. As soon as you run out of cap boosters you're toast. In a gang your local tank is easily overcome and your tiny dps contributes nothing to the gang.
Originally by: CCP Tuxford Now the op looks like a weirdo that can't read kekekeke!
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Wideen
Warped Mining Strip Mining Club
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Posted - 2009.07.19 23:20:00 -
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Edited by: Wideen on 19/07/2009 23:20:33 any word on when this will hit TQ?
edit: not his myrm but the rig changes obviously
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Myra2007
Shafrak Industries
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Posted - 2009.07.19 23:28:00 -
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Originally by: Wideen Edited by: Wideen on 19/07/2009 23:20:33 any word on when this will hit TQ?
edit: not his myrm but the rig changes obviously
pretty sure somebody said august with that mini-expansion or something but don't quote me on that --
Originally by: Jasper Dark
I agree! Lets go back into caves and lick rocks!
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Wideen
Warped Mining Strip Mining Club
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Posted - 2009.07.19 23:36:00 -
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Originally by: Myra2007
pretty sure somebody said august with that mini-expansion or something but don't quote me on that
ok thanks can't wait
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Psiri
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Posted - 2009.07.20 00:52:00 -
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Looks like a fun ship, even so you don't have an endless supply of cap boosters. The range of medium AC's isn't exactly excellent either without falloff rigs, nor is a Myrmidon very quick at all with 3x armor rigs.
I'll stick with a dual rep and TD for now, 3xrep seems more of a gimmicky thing, although with some limited uses.
I'm curious just how much cheaper rigs will be, I mean, some rigs are already fairly cheap as it is.
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Take Enemy
BAD WOLF INC.
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Posted - 2009.07.20 01:22:00 -
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Originally by: me0de
Originally by: kessah Edited by: kessah on 19/07/2009 21:33:51
Originally by: me0de Fixed.
Kessah speech
It was a joke about it being a capbooster junkie fit, chill brah
Can the expression "chill brah" please die an ugly painful death? I wince everytime I read it.
(yeah, I know - "chill brah")...
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Bootleg Greg
Minmatar CHILL Industries
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Posted - 2009.07.20 01:30:00 -
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The point of solo ganking is to find the best ship for the situation. If this situation is unknown, then you find the ship that can counter a good % of predictable scenarios, blob, ewar, etc.... This ship is designed for unbeatable odds, the odds at which you fight blobs.
One cruiser class nano ship would end this unfortunately.
22 orbit, pop drones, the end.
10/10 for creativity, but just take a more broader look at the game.
Good Luck!
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Omarvelous
Destry's Lounge Important Internet Spaceship League
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Posted - 2009.07.20 03:20:00 -
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I like the fit - its great for small scale low second piracy.
I don't understand people thinking of 500 dps as **** - its decent for a bc, while maintaining a strong local tank.
Some suggestions/thoughts/questions.
- I think ac are too short range. Can you drop the 3rd rep for something else and fit focused medium pulses? Lasers will accomodate your slower speed better imo.
- what are the stats not overheated and not using std exile?
- I think you'll have to be weary of torp ravens with tp - I think your stats may be significantly worse vs exp. Maybe swap the 3rd rep for an exp resist mod.
- with cheaper rigs - why not armor resist rigs? Try an exp res rig to plus the gap.
I like over the top local rep fits - way more entertaining and skill intensive.
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SuiJuris
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Posted - 2009.07.20 03:24:00 -
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In my experiance, when your flying around solo, GANK IS VERY important since its hard to guarentee very much alone time with your target. --- It's like my mom always said... "I knew I should of drowned that one." |
Spectre3353
Gallente The Python Cartel.
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Posted - 2009.07.20 03:54:00 -
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Hi kessah. How are you? ----- The Python Cartel - My Pirate Blog |
TimMc
Gallente Brutal Deliverance
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Posted - 2009.07.20 07:44:00 -
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Looks like a nice setup, besides that you will need to dock up after any engagement for most boosters.
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Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.07.20 08:35:00 -
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Might work in 1v1, but EVE 1v1 PVP is an oxymoron. :P
It will fold up quite quickly under concentrated fire. Unless your gang is large enough to kill the other gang first that is :P.
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