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Twisted Xistance
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Posted - 2004.09.28 15:06:00 -
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Hello my real name is chris, I'm a 23 year old male from lancashire in england, I'm 6'6 and I lift weights (I'm a pretty big guy).
Last night I was talking to someone on msn who I know from eve, I've known this person on eve since the days of techell so lets just say I'd known them on eve for a long time, been through a lot of stuff in eve with this person and talked to them numerous times on msn with voice chat ect.
Last night this person asked me if I wanted to come down to manchester and have a drink ect so I thought 'why not' what danger could I possibly be in.
Most of the night went pretty well, the guy and his mate picked me up from the town were I live and drove me down to manchester. We watched a film, had a laugh and had a few drinks.
I was then drugged and sexually assaulted
luckily because I'm a big guy I came to before it got more serious and left the house, I'd brought a weapon with me that I purchased recently just for the sake of having a laugh and showing the guy it. I phoned teh police on my mobile phone and waited outside with the weapon until they arrived.
THIS IS NOT A SICK JOKE THIS IS DEADLY SERIOUS
no matter how well you think you know someone on a game BE CAREFUL!!!!!
I dont want this to happen to anyone else, gof forbid if this had happened to a smaller person who the drugs would of had a greater effect on.
Please heed this warning, NEVER go alone to meet anyone from ANY online game no matter how much you 'think' you know them.
The only good thing I can take away from this is teh hope that what happened to me may stop the same thing from happening to someone else.
For legal reasons I cant pubicly post the eve name of tis person or any information about them.
-First there was nothing then there was Xistance, then it all got kinda Twisted- |
Twisted Xistance
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Posted - 2004.09.28 15:06:00 -
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Hello my real name is chris, I'm a 23 year old male from lancashire in england, I'm 6'6 and I lift weights (I'm a pretty big guy).
Last night I was talking to someone on msn who I know from eve, I've known this person on eve since the days of techell so lets just say I'd known them on eve for a long time, been through a lot of stuff in eve with this person and talked to them numerous times on msn with voice chat ect.
Last night this person asked me if I wanted to come down to manchester and have a drink ect so I thought 'why not' what danger could I possibly be in.
Most of the night went pretty well, the guy and his mate picked me up from the town were I live and drove me down to manchester. We watched a film, had a laugh and had a few drinks.
I was then drugged and sexually assaulted
luckily because I'm a big guy I came to before it got more serious and left the house, I'd brought a weapon with me that I purchased recently just for the sake of having a laugh and showing the guy it. I phoned teh police on my mobile phone and waited outside with the weapon until they arrived.
THIS IS NOT A SICK JOKE THIS IS DEADLY SERIOUS
no matter how well you think you know someone on a game BE CAREFUL!!!!!
I dont want this to happen to anyone else, gof forbid if this had happened to a smaller person who the drugs would of had a greater effect on.
Please heed this warning, NEVER go alone to meet anyone from ANY online game no matter how much you 'think' you know them.
The only good thing I can take away from this is teh hope that what happened to me may stop the same thing from happening to someone else.
For legal reasons I cant pubicly post the eve name of tis person or any information about them.
-First there was nothing then there was Xistance, then it all got kinda Twisted- |
Twisted Xistance
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Posted - 2004.09.28 15:26:00 -
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nah I'd really rather this stayed on or got a sticky or something.
The guy isnt in techell anymore I was just illustrating a point that I'd knew him on eve for time.
this post is simply intended to warn people about the dangers of meeting people on the net and be hard hitting.
this is what happened to me and I dont want it to happen to anyone else, I tried to make the post as none offensive as possible.
I'm hoping a post like this will get through to people more then some little warning that you get from the game devs.
This actually happened to me
it DOES happen
it wont happen to you if you read the post and take note.
-First there was nothing then there was Xistance, then it all got kinda Twisted- |
Twisted Xistance
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Posted - 2004.09.28 15:26:00 -
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nah I'd really rather this stayed on or got a sticky or something.
The guy isnt in techell anymore I was just illustrating a point that I'd knew him on eve for time.
this post is simply intended to warn people about the dangers of meeting people on the net and be hard hitting.
this is what happened to me and I dont want it to happen to anyone else, I tried to make the post as none offensive as possible.
I'm hoping a post like this will get through to people more then some little warning that you get from the game devs.
This actually happened to me
it DOES happen
it wont happen to you if you read the post and take note.
-First there was nothing then there was Xistance, then it all got kinda Twisted- |
Nostradamu5
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Posted - 2004.09.28 15:29:00 -
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Well if this isn't going away I must ask a few question.
1. you hook up with a few guys.
2. Then you watch some film, like what kind of film?
3. After the "film" you decide to have some drinks, so where did you have the drinks at? same place you saw the film?
4. Intimate activity?
5. was this in PF-346?
Stop griping about server instability and go buy an EVE mug!
Additionally with the purchase of each mug you will receive two(2) invisible Elves.
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Nostradamu5
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Posted - 2004.09.28 15:29:00 -
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Well if this isn't going away I must ask a few question.
1. you hook up with a few guys.
2. Then you watch some film, like what kind of film?
3. After the "film" you decide to have some drinks, so where did you have the drinks at? same place you saw the film?
4. Intimate activity?
5. was this in PF-346?
Stop griping about server instability and go buy an EVE mug!
Additionally with the purchase of each mug you will receive two(2) invisible Elves.
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Hakera
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Posted - 2004.09.28 15:34:00 -
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I am sorry for what has happened for you, but in this day & age, safety on the internet is a top concern, not just for your children but for us as well.
There are obvious safety tips when meeting someone for the first time such as always meet in a public place, meet as a group (maybe your corp for eg) and of course be careful not to get drunk or accept drinks from strangers.
These are what I would consider general advice to adults such as ourselves in the relam of MMORPG's. For teenagers who play the game, many more 'protections' must be in place and the adult (father/mother for eg) fully aware of what their children are upto when palying eve and talking with people from around the world.
Dumbledore - Eve-I.com |
Hakera
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Posted - 2004.09.28 15:34:00 -
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I am sorry for what has happened for you, but in this day & age, safety on the internet is a top concern, not just for your children but for us as well.
There are obvious safety tips when meeting someone for the first time such as always meet in a public place, meet as a group (maybe your corp for eg) and of course be careful not to get drunk or accept drinks from strangers.
These are what I would consider general advice to adults such as ourselves in the relam of MMORPG's. For teenagers who play the game, many more 'protections' must be in place and the adult (father/mother for eg) fully aware of what their children are upto when palying eve and talking with people from around the world.
Dumbledore - Eve-I.com |
Twisted Xistance
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Posted - 2004.09.28 15:46:00 -
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 Originally by: Nostradamu5
Well if this isn't going away I must ask a few question.
1. you hook up with a few guys.
2. Then you watch some film, like what kind of film?
3. After the "film" you decide to have some drinks, so where did you have the drinks at? same place you saw the film?
4. Intimate activity?
5. was this in PF-346?
yeah there was 2 of em, but really I couldnt of seen it coming, nothing seemed wrong, they both seemed really sound guys. the film we watched was SCUM (pretty good film) the night was really good, the 3 of us were just all havin a drink and a laugh like mates do. There was no warning signs, I couldnt of seen it coming.
people have these steriotype ideas about internet bad guys.
the guy was around the guys were about the same age as me, nothing seemed out of place, they didnt seem weird at all. I'd been talking to this guy on eve and msn for like a year I think.
Honestly there was no way of seeing it coming until it happened.
we were crashed out in his front room having some cans and wine wile we were watching the film, just like I would do with my mates at home. Thats what got me......... how like there were no noticable warning signs at all.
-First there was nothing then there was Xistance, then it all got kinda Twisted- |
Twisted Xistance
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Posted - 2004.09.28 15:46:00 -
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Originally by: Nostradamu5
Well if this isn't going away I must ask a few question.
1. you hook up with a few guys.
2. Then you watch some film, like what kind of film?
3. After the "film" you decide to have some drinks, so where did you have the drinks at? same place you saw the film?
4. Intimate activity?
5. was this in PF-346?
yeah there was 2 of em, but really I couldnt of seen it coming, nothing seemed wrong, they both seemed really sound guys. the film we watched was SCUM (pretty good film) the night was really good, the 3 of us were just all havin a drink and a laugh like mates do. There was no warning signs, I couldnt of seen it coming.
people have these steriotype ideas about internet bad guys.
the guy was around the guys were about the same age as me, nothing seemed out of place, they didnt seem weird at all. I'd been talking to this guy on eve and msn for like a year I think.
Honestly there was no way of seeing it coming until it happened.
we were crashed out in his front room having some cans and wine wile we were watching the film, just like I would do with my mates at home. Thats what got me......... how like there were no noticable warning signs at all.
-First there was nothing then there was Xistance, then it all got kinda Twisted- |
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kieron
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Posted - 2004.09.28 15:50:00 -
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Chris/Twisted, glad to hear that you're relatively ok and things didn't get worse for you. Stay in contact with the local law enforcement authorities and please keep me informed with how things progress. You can send me an e-mail any time.
For those players that want to interact with other players, please heed Chris' experience as a warning. If you are going to meet other players that you haven't met before, do so at a fanfest, large player gathering, or if that is not possible, in a controlled enviroment like a mall or restaurant. Always bring a couple friends with you as well.
Do not think that because you have interacted with someone for a long time online or talked to them over the phone once or twice, that a person is "safe". Also, do not think that because you have are a "Xth Degree Black Belt in <insert martial art name here>" or carry a can of mace, that you are safe.
The internet is a great place to meet people with similar interests and there are stories of great friendships or long-term relationships that started online. There are also tales of internet predators preying on others. Just be safe, be cautious and careful.
kieron
Community Manager,
EVE Online
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kieron
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Posted - 2004.09.28 15:50:00 -
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Chris/Twisted, glad to hear that you're relatively ok and things didn't get worse for you. Stay in contact with the local law enforcement authorities and please keep me informed with how things progress. You can send me an e-mail any time.
For those players that want to interact with other players, please heed Chris' experience as a warning. If you are going to meet other players that you haven't met before, do so at a fanfest, large player gathering, or if that is not possible, in a controlled enviroment like a mall or restaurant. Always bring a couple friends with you as well.
Do not think that because you have interacted with someone for a long time online or talked to them over the phone once or twice, that a person is "safe". Also, do not think that because you have are a "Xth Degree Black Belt in <insert martial art name here>" or carry a can of mace, that you are safe.
The internet is a great place to meet people with similar interests and there are stories of great friendships or long-term relationships that started online. There are also tales of internet predators preying on others. Just be safe, be cautious and careful.
kieron
Community Manager,
EVE Online
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Lady Rainier
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Posted - 2004.09.28 15:52:00 -
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i can say that i have met someone i play EVE with but i was very paranoid about it. me being a female and having never met someone i had not seen in person was somewhat of a factor. i have known him since april of this year and he lives in my homestate where i was going on leave in late july. i have to say i grilled the poor guy and asked some very stupid questions and yet i was still uncertain because you can say anything to anyone to get them to trust you. i even ran his name through the online phone book to see if that is where he really lived - and if the company he worked for really existed  so im paranoid - you should be 
our visit went very well. we met in a public place which was actually his idea and then spent most of the rest of the day in public because he knew how mistrusting i was. having done this does not make me anymore trusting of any guy that i talk to on EVE. any person i meet will be in public and someone else i trust will know where i am going - or go with me - and will have my cell number. that is what i did when i met this guy in july. my family knew where i was who i was meeting and also had the guys cell number and home number.
in short there are alot of precautions you have to take - just because they play EVE doesnt mean they are good people. its a great place to meet people and they can tell you anything you want to hear. so be careful out there.....the world is still dangerous!
LIFE IS TO SHORT TO HATE! |
Lady Rainier
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Posted - 2004.09.28 15:52:00 -
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i can say that i have met someone i play EVE with but i was very paranoid about it. me being a female and having never met someone i had not seen in person was somewhat of a factor. i have known him since april of this year and he lives in my homestate where i was going on leave in late july. i have to say i grilled the poor guy and asked some very stupid questions and yet i was still uncertain because you can say anything to anyone to get them to trust you. i even ran his name through the online phone book to see if that is where he really lived - and if the company he worked for really existed so im paranoid - you should be
our visit went very well. we met in a public place which was actually his idea and then spent most of the rest of the day in public because he knew how mistrusting i was. having done this does not make me anymore trusting of any guy that i talk to on EVE. any person i meet will be in public and someone else i trust will know where i am going - or go with me - and will have my cell number. that is what i did when i met this guy in july. my family knew where i was who i was meeting and also had the guys cell number and home number.
in short there are alot of precautions you have to take - just because they play EVE doesnt mean they are good people. its a great place to meet people and they can tell you anything you want to hear. so be careful out there.....the world is still dangerous!
LIFE IS TO SHORT TO HATE! |
Tar om
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Posted - 2004.09.28 15:55:00 -
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Whether this story is true or not, it contains a valid warning. I don't see why this thread should be closed. If I were CCP I'd add a general warning to news or TnC pretty fast as well.
Meeting online buddies in RL can be a lot of fun, but it is not something you should do alone or if you are a youngster.
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We are the Octavian Vanguard www.octavianvanguard.net
http://www.serenitymovie.com |
Tar om
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Posted - 2004.09.28 15:55:00 -
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Whether this story is true or not, it contains a valid warning. I don't see why this thread should be closed. If I were CCP I'd add a general warning to news or TnC pretty fast as well.
Meeting online buddies in RL can be a lot of fun, but it is not something you should do alone or if you are a youngster.
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We are the Octavian Vanguard www.octavianvanguard.net
http://www.serenitymovie.com |
LocalHost
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Posted - 2004.09.28 15:56:00 -
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I'm happy that it turned out the way it did. That guy is lucky you didn't kill his sick ass. The world is a crazy place people. Full of people that would cut you up into little pieces and freeze some for later.
Sounds sick doesn't it. You have to always be aware of what is going on even with people you think you know.
Glad you ok. Hope they put his ass in jail for a nice long time. That way he can get all the **** he wants/or doesn't want!!  |
LocalHost
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Posted - 2004.09.28 15:56:00 -
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I'm happy that it turned out the way it did. That guy is lucky you didn't kill his sick ass. The world is a crazy place people. Full of people that would cut you up into little pieces and freeze some for later.
Sounds sick doesn't it. You have to always be aware of what is going on even with people you think you know.
Glad you ok. Hope they put his ass in jail for a nice long time. That way he can get all the **** he wants/or doesn't want!! |
Bhaal
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Posted - 2004.09.28 16:00:00 -
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Wow, I'm glad you are ok (physically at least...)
It seems you were pretty calm in that situation, I may not have been if I were in your shoes... (especially with a weapon and all...)
Unreal...
Can you imagine all the slime who play the SIMS ONLINE & such and use it as a tool for this crap! Amazing...
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Bhaal
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Posted - 2004.09.28 16:00:00 -
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Wow, I'm glad you are ok (physically at least...)
It seems you were pretty calm in that situation, I may not have been if I were in your shoes... (especially with a weapon and all...)
Unreal...
Can you imagine all the slime who play the SIMS ONLINE & such and use it as a tool for this crap! Amazing...
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Twisted Xistance
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Posted - 2004.09.28 16:22:00 -
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Originally by: KIAEddZ
Why did you take a "weapon"
What was it?
1st time you meet these guys,a nd you stay at their house and watch a film with some drinks?
I have to say m8, it doesnt all quite add up.
well you could say that was my precation and I'm really glad I did bring them. The weapon was funnily enough a pair of nunchucks, beleive it or not I tend to carry them around because I love them (and the neigbourhood that I live in is a tad on the dangerous side.
-First there was nothing then there was Xistance, then it all got kinda Twisted- |
Twisted Xistance
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Posted - 2004.09.28 16:22:00 -
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Originally by: KIAEddZ
Why did you take a "weapon"
What was it?
1st time you meet these guys,a nd you stay at their house and watch a film with some drinks?
I have to say m8, it doesnt all quite add up.
well you could say that was my precation and I'm really glad I did bring them. The weapon was funnily enough a pair of nunchucks, beleive it or not I tend to carry them around because I love them (and the neigbourhood that I live in is a tad on the dangerous side.
-First there was nothing then there was Xistance, then it all got kinda Twisted- |
Nuala Reece
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Posted - 2004.09.28 16:52:00 -
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Originally by: KIAEddZ
1st time you meet these guys,a nd you stay at their house and watch a film with some drinks?
I have to say m8, it doesnt all quite add up.
It's easy to judge from a distance; a little different when you're in the middle of a situation. I worked with a woman who did everything right - arranged a blind date at midday in the middle of town. Then the guy turned up in his car (it was more convenient, he said), so she got in cos they still weren't leaving town. Then he 'remembered' he had something to pick up from home, did she mind he asked? Of course, once there he invited her in - he didn't want to be rude and leave her waiting in the car. And once inside he tried to sexually assault her.
Every one of the stages leading up to this situation seemed entirely reasonable and well intentioned, it was only at the end of the process that the mistake she'd made became obvious. I'm sure things seemed equally reasonable to Chris, one by one, until it was too late. Seriously, why would you think there'd be a problem if someone you've known for a year decided to bring a freind along to a night out? Why would it seem strange to get a few drinks in the house before going out? Why would it seem strange to stick on a film? (music might be a more traditional choice but I've known people to stick a video on instead).
If you don't mind me being pointed about this - and it's not directed solely at you KIAEddz - I suspect the resistance to this story has more to do with having to contemplate that this was two men assaulting another man than whether the story adds up. I doubt people'd be so quick to downplay this if it'd been a woman posting a similar account.
Hope you're ok Chris, and that the police can get the two guys for this. And I hope it doesn't put you off the rest of the eve community.
Be Free
Freelancing Corp |
Nuala Reece
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Posted - 2004.09.28 16:52:00 -
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Originally by: KIAEddZ
1st time you meet these guys,a nd you stay at their house and watch a film with some drinks?
I have to say m8, it doesnt all quite add up.
It's easy to judge from a distance; a little different when you're in the middle of a situation. I worked with a woman who did everything right - arranged a blind date at midday in the middle of town. Then the guy turned up in his car (it was more convenient, he said), so she got in cos they still weren't leaving town. Then he 'remembered' he had something to pick up from home, did she mind he asked? Of course, once there he invited her in - he didn't want to be rude and leave her waiting in the car. And once inside he tried to sexually assault her.
Every one of the stages leading up to this situation seemed entirely reasonable and well intentioned, it was only at the end of the process that the mistake she'd made became obvious. I'm sure things seemed equally reasonable to Chris, one by one, until it was too late. Seriously, why would you think there'd be a problem if someone you've known for a year decided to bring a freind along to a night out? Why would it seem strange to get a few drinks in the house before going out? Why would it seem strange to stick on a film? (music might be a more traditional choice but I've known people to stick a video on instead).
If you don't mind me being pointed about this - and it's not directed solely at you KIAEddz - I suspect the resistance to this story has more to do with having to contemplate that this was two men assaulting another man than whether the story adds up. I doubt people'd be so quick to downplay this if it'd been a woman posting a similar account.
Hope you're ok Chris, and that the police can get the two guys for this. And I hope it doesn't put you off the rest of the eve community.
Be Free
Freelancing Corp |
kieron
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Posted - 2004.09.28 17:34:00 -
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I'm going to clean this thread up a bit and take out some of the off-topic posts. This is a topic that can have serious consequences and I would rather have relevant discussion than lock the post because some posters would rather question the assaulted player's actions.
kieron
Community Manager,
EVE Online
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kieron
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Posted - 2004.09.28 17:34:00 -
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I'm going to clean this thread up a bit and take out some of the off-topic posts. This is a topic that can have serious consequences and I would rather have relevant discussion than lock the post because some posters would rather question the assaulted player's actions.
kieron
Community Manager,
EVE Online
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Kunming
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Posted - 2004.09.28 18:16:00 -
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Dude this is so sick I can hardly belive it, glad you made it out there. Thx alot for the warning, will help my judgment better
Intercepting since BETA |
Kunming
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Posted - 2004.09.28 18:16:00 -
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Dude this is so sick I can hardly belive it, glad you made it out there. Thx alot for the warning, will help my judgment better
Intercepting since BETA |
hupa
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Posted - 2004.09.28 18:27:00 -
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strange at the last london eve **** up last easter my drink was spiked with a date******drug i ended up in hospital, luckily enough my girlfriend was with me, so no poof got there wicked way with me, seems theres a serial eve date rapeist out there, anyway im arranging the ireland/belfast **** up anyone found doin anything simular will find there kneecaps removed
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hupa
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Posted - 2004.09.28 18:27:00 -
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strange at the last london eve **** up last easter my drink was spiked with a date******drug i ended up in hospital, luckily enough my girlfriend was with me, so no poof got there wicked way with me, seems theres a serial eve date rapeist out there, anyway im arranging the ireland/belfast **** up anyone found doin anything simular will find there kneecaps removed
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