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Mr LaForge
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.09.17 13:22:00 -
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Communication? In my Eve? |
AFKCloaked AltSpy
MasterMined Technologies
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Posted - 2011.09.17 13:53:00 -
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Trebor Daehdoow wrote:The CSM met with EVE Senior Producer Zulu for a second time to discuss the current issues confronting EVE Online. We got more details of CCP's plans to address community concerns, some of which we agree with, and some of which concerns us. However, no final decisions have been made at this point.
CCP Zulu intends to publish a devblog next week to outline CCP's plans and solicit feedback from the community.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
This is a time when we quote the **** out of Hilmar, actions words blah blah blah.
So far CCP is losing the war on communication. |
the plague
Anthraxus Defense Laboratories
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Posted - 2011.09.17 13:53:00 -
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CSM Update 1:
A meeting with CCP representatives took place today. We can't reveal the results of the meeting or even what was talked about, but there's cause for optimism since a follow up meeting has been scheduled. An update on that will follow as soon as we know more.
CSM Update 2:
Today's meeting was a mixture of good and bad, and was mostly positive with only about half being negative. Various people attended while various others were not able to make it. We were able to discuss some of the issues of concern, and everyone in attendance agreed we had in fact discussed those issues. At this time the CSM is unable to discuss what we discussed or why we discussed it, however, the CSM members are united in our belief that discussions did occur and there's at least some chance we will be able to freely discuss what was discussed as soon as CCP permits us to reveal that information. The meeting ended on a very positive note and a third meeting was scheduled for tomorrow.
CSM Update 3:
While the substance of today's meeting must remain confidential for obvious reasons, real progress was made toward an unspecified goal. Rest assured, some of your concerns were raised, and while no final decisions were made and no roadmap is available at this time, we're optimistic that this will happen soon. An additional meeting has been scheduled for the end of the month to give all involved parties time to consider these unspecified issues.
CSM Update 4:
Due to NDA restrictions the CSM is currently unable to reveal whether or not this meeting took place or if anyone attended. However, the CSM has scheduled its own meeting to discuss internally some portion of the issues that were previously discussed.
CSM Update 5:
At CCP's request the CSM has agreed to review an edited version of the minutes from the previous meeting, which may or may not have taken place. CCP has informed us that a dev blog will be posted some time between next week and next year explaining what this meeting was about, if in fact it did occur. Unfortunately, at this time the CSM is unable to confirm whether or not such a meeting actually took place due to NDA restrictions. More to follow.
CSM Update 6:
The CSM is pleased to finally be able to announce that some portion of the fixes that were included three patches ago were part of what was discussed in meeting number 1. We feel confident this is the most productive CSM ever and marks a turning point in CCP's relationship with the CSM and the EVE Online community. Be sure to vote for us in the upcoming election to help ensure that we can continue this important work. |
AFKCloaked AltSpy
MasterMined Technologies
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Posted - 2011.09.17 13:56:00 -
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^^ You win the internet good sir. GG. |
Large Collidable Object
morons.
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Posted - 2011.09.17 15:58:00 -
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Toni Kaye wrote:Ignoring the prattle from morons, I personally appreciate the CSM also taking the time to keep us informed -as best they can.
With CCP stepping up to the plate on the forums and the CSM now as well, it augers well for the future.
Constructive > Destructive. Always will be.
As a matter of fact I was bumping the thread, lamenting the overly tight NDA rules and lauding the CSM for their activity all in one short eve-related meme.
Sigh - guess my scintillant wittiness escaped you there... morons-áare recruiting. We're good at breeding! |
mkint
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Posted - 2011.09.17 16:13:00 -
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Seleene wrote:Desert Ice78 wrote:Pro tip for you all CSM:
DON'T LET ZULU WRITE THE ******* BLOG!!!!!
At least give it to someone with at least a meager ability in communication, or else we'll have the same cluster-**** "my $1000 jeans" all over again.... We should let CCP Nozh write it then, amirite?
I'm like 98% sure that Nozh is a dev troll alt they use when they don't want to get their tires slashed. Because that turd-pants sure as hell better not be real. I'd say the same thing about Greyscale, but I'm pretty sure he really is taking cash bribes from certain alliances to develop 0.0 to sustain their RMT empires. |
Cailais
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.09.17 16:15:00 -
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So just to confirm: the CSM have had some meetings about arranging meetings to discuss how the discussions of those meetings might be (at some undefined point in the future be communicated) to the player base so we, the players, can be better informed regarding how CCP plans (without commitment) to better manage its meeting schedule for planning meetings?
I am also correct in understanding that during this meeting process it has been generally agreed by the parties therein that a "dev blog" describing how CCP met with the CSM to discuss meeting again and that we might hear in the future that a possible meeting date has been arranged subject to the agreement of all parties and in accordance with United Nations mandate 100201B/9 and assuming the astrological alignment of the moons of Jupiter on the second Thursday of the third month providing Scorpio is in the ascendency?
Did I miss anything?
C.
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Vicar2008
Royal Black Watch Highlanders Warped Aggression
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Posted - 2011.09.17 17:04:00 -
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Trebor Daehdoow wrote: and some of which concerns us. However, no final decisions have been made at this point.
CCP Zulu intends to publish a devblog next week to outline CCP's plans and solicit feedback from the community.
Oh **** I know this distrurbs me somewhat, have CCP not learned anything, but I am jumping the gun a bit. Guess we will see a threadnaught once the Blog is delivered. |
Cyprus Black
PILGRIMS Insane Asylum
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Posted - 2011.09.17 17:05:00 -
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Trebor Daehdoow wrote:CCP Zulu intends to publish a devblog next week to outline CCP's plans and solicit feedback from the community. Well, whatever remains of the community at least.
A lot of players walked (including myself) due to frustration. CCP upper management no longer listens to words. Seems the only way to get them to notice is to hit their wallet, one subscription cancellation at a time.
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St Mio
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.09.17 17:15:00 -
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Thank you CSM :) |
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Killer2
The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2011.09.17 20:27:00 -
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Confirming that we need to meet to arrange a meeting.
The rest is under NDA. |
Vaako Horizon
Casual Slackers Daily Operations
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Posted - 2011.09.18 14:34:00 -
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Dev blog next week...
By CCP standards that will be 2 months... ( thats how it feels nowdays when CCP/CSM says "sometime next week" ) |
Sumos Tigerclaw
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.09.18 23:36:00 -
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The Mittani wrote:In general this was a positive meeting and I hope that all of the secrecy will be dropped in the pending dev blog. We also have a followup meeting next Friday.
Is this like the send me isk and I'll double your money game? |
Byshop Kayl
Club Bear The Seventh Day
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Posted - 2011.09.22 17:01:00 -
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I'm sorry, this is getting rather pathetic.
More and more talk, and talk about talk, and not one bloody bit of action. It has been MONTHS since the fail that was Incarna, and not a single bit of action has taken place.
(Talks and dev blogs about the action you're going to take someday do not count.)
CCP is insulting our intelligence and treating us like a 6 year old who will get a treat if they sit quietly in the cart while mommy does the shopping.
Trebor Daehdoow wrote:The CSM met with EVE Senior Producer Zulu for a second time to discuss the current issues confronting EVE Online. We got more details of CCP's plans to address community concerns, some of which we agree with, and some of which concerns us. However, no final decisions have been made at this point.
CCP Zulu intends to publish a devblog next week to outline CCP's plans and solicit feedback from the community.
Why is CCP still TALKING about what they want to do to fix things? Why aren't they SHOWING you what they're going? Why aren't they SHOWING you code/game changes?
CPP is really starting to prove that they're all TALK and no ACTION.
-á"Sanity is the playground of the unimaginitive."-á-- Anonymous "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over-áagain expecting different results."-á-- A. Einstein |
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