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Mel Civire
Time Sync
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Posted - 2012.05.23 11:35:00 -
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Lady Hofstedar wrote:Im a cisco engineer who runs his own company
im married
3 kids soon to b 4
i gross45k a year a MINIMUM
I hate the new UI, u wanna know why?
Because its pure 100% shite
I can guarentee i have a higher IQ than you
stfu n GTFO u stupid little russian pet
Tool
Oh dear, where do we go with this one.
You've just ported your RL into EVE to try to scrape together a little credibility. How sweet.
I'm happy you're a Cisco Engineer. I'll be sure to pick up the skill book next time I'm in Cisco space. Do you operate your company out of the garage or a spare bedroom?
Married! How good for you. I'm glad to see that Cisco qualification has come in handy for something. Amazingly difficult to get married these days I hear. Having to run a company as a minimum requirement - as well as being a Cisco Engineer of course.
3 and a half little Cisco Engineers! Congratulations! Oh you must be so proud! An amazing Engineering feat having children. Without brave and souls like yourself we would all be so rare. Having sex four times in your life places you in a high place in the EVE universe. Maybe they will put a statue up in Jita for you? Well I think now we have confirmed you run you business from the garage now.
45K a year! I'm astounded. However, also curious. Is that a currency we're talking about here. I know it depends on where you are in the world and comparative buying power, but if 45K is a sum that sends you into giddy, hedonistic behaviour then more power to you. Personally 45K a year MINIMUM would put me on about par with the Cisco Engineer at McDonald's. However, if you're feeding those kids left over burgers then it is all probably OK.
We're all very interested in your opinion on the new UI. I'm confident it will be an evidence based argument drawing on your full technical background of Cisco like buzzwords.
"pure 100% shite"
Well maybe not. I'm beginning to wonder how your garage based concern is actually marching towards 45K this year?
"I can guarentee i have a higher IQ than you"
This comment just drips with irony I guarantee is beyond most of the EVE community, but I'm sure you just slipped it in as a bit of an Engineering joke to mock us all. Bravo sir, you nearly had us all there!
Please keep bringing your vast life experience into the EVE universe. I know it will be a change for the better. |

Hannibal Ord
Fer-De-Lance
61
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Posted - 2012.05.23 11:41:00 -
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Lady Hofstedar wrote:Hannibal Ord wrote:Lady Hofstedar wrote:Jack Paladin wrote:Note: Realising the audience that will likely reply to this topic, I shall not be pouring my blood and tears into a heartfelt rant that will ultimately lead me to WIN eve. So I will keep it nice and simple. Stop complaining for the sake of complaining.The new UI is BRILLIANT. Just cause you basement dwellers are too fail to adapt to change and anything remotely different introduced is indicitive of one thing. You suck at EVE. Learn to play the game or GTFO. I heard http://www.eveuniversity.org is really good for players wanting to learn how to play the game. And your stuff .... keep it. Do not want. Lastly, you need to be reminded of one thing. http://www.whiteroseconventicle.com/images/stories/eve_learning_curve.pngThankyou for the time. That is all. hey little boy from fail little alliance that cant stand on its own feet without big brother back up Im a cisco engineer who runs his own company im married 3 kids soon to b 4 i gross45k a year a MINIMUM I hate the new UI, u wanna know why? Because its pure 100% shite I can guarentee i have a higher IQ than you stfu n GTFO u stupid little russian pet Tool Really? If that is the case your writing ability clearly (even with all that intelligence) needs an awful lot of work. With that in mind, I'm going to just shout out what most of us are thinking. "Bullshit" Think what you like, i am type 4 dislexic, i make no effort to hide what i am, ur stupid little boys hiding in your mums houses Not even half of you would be as gobby in real life, your pathetic internet warriors
And I'm a marine. I too suffer from Dyslexia. I have my own place. I'm very gobby in real life. I wish the Queen paid me more. |

Roime
Shiva Furnace Dead On Arrival Alliance
762
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Posted - 2012.05.23 11:50:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Roime wrote:I'm referring to the 10+ threads on GD, which contain only emo teen rage with no substance. Like I said in my first post, this is just like the Great Neocom and Great Font rages. GǪexcept that those happened during the suggestion phase and that at least the font didn't remove functionality. There's also a huge difference between this kind of core UI that is used for pretty much anything you want to do in the game and the functionality lost through the neocom (which, incidentally, covers the one thing that doesn't involve item manipulation, viz. chatting).
That is exactly why I compare these three, font & Neo-Neocom were both purely net improvements, with 0 functionality lost.
Quote:I think you'll also note that the 10+ threads of range in GD tend to refer back to the litany of complaints that had been raised during the last month and which was ignored, CQ-style, for the sake of shiny. The reasons for the shouting are well known; the shouting and teeth-gnashing is simply in support of having those known issues fixed. You have to realise that people have long since learned that CCP does not respond well to reasoned complaints. They respond to abuse and only then do they actually look at the complaints that have been raised. This is a self-destructive streak that CCP has had for many years now, and it doesn't look like it's going away any time soon. As a result, you kind of have to learn to live with the shouting because as soon as you concede that there are issues (and I know you're not dumb enough not to do that), shouting and threatening unsubs have sadly become the only means of getting the message through. Would I prefer it to be otherwise? Definitely, but these are the devs we've chosenGǪ 
That is just blatantly wrong stomping your feet and crying works well when you are 2 years old and you parents stupid, but every single adult being and organisation responds better to positive, constructive feedback. Unsub threat is just another form of violence, trying to force your own will over others.
I'm not bittervet enough to see CCP as ignorant and stubborn.
Quote:In fact, if anything, I'd say you've got it the completely wrong way around: it's the whiners who keep saying the system is working who consistently fail to offer any shred of substance to distinguish their nonsense from sheer trolling. All they can say is GÇ£shift-clickGÇ¥, which, as has long been established, doesn't actually solve any of the problems people are having.
They, and I, are content with the new inventory. It has very usable features that improve my workflow.
Anyway Darth Kilth kindly provided a list of legit issues that obviously need to be ironed out, but threatening to unsub over the quirks is just bloody ridiculous and all those posters need a healthy dose of fresh air.
Gallente - the choice of the interstellar gentleman |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
7121
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Posted - 2012.05.23 12:11:00 -
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Roime wrote:That is exactly why I compare these three, font & Neo-Neocom were both purely net improvements, with 0 functionality lost. Eh no. The necom was a reduction in functionality in terms of how well it handles chat channels and other, similar multiples of windows of the same category.
The current UI is not a case of net improvements: it adds two things, solves a third, but breaks so much else that it lands squarely in the negative in terms of functionality. It may very well be that the functionality lost was something you never used, but trust me: it has lost far more than it has gained.
Quote:That is just blatantly wrong  stomping your feet and crying works well when you are 2 years old and you parents stupid, but every single adult being and organisation responds better to positive, constructive feedback. You'd think so. CCP has proven this not to be the case when dealing with them over and over (and over) again. Being well-reasoned makes nothing happen. Pissing in their cornflakes does.
It's only Gǣblatantly wrongGǥ in the sense of Gǣit shouldn't work that wayGǥ. It is unfortunately not blatantly wrong in the sense of Gǣthat's incorrectGǥGǪ
Quote:They, and I, are content with the new inventory. It has very usable features that improve my workflow. GǪand are unable to explain how or why, whereas those who are complaining about it have very long and very detailed lists of what's wrong by now (and have had those for many weeks). GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Shift-click does nothing GÇö why the Unified Inventory isn't ready for primetime. |

Lady Hofstedar
Novindus Equilibrium Frentix Alliance
77
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Posted - 2012.05.23 12:12:00 -
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lol your a marine? No wonder our armed forces are going to **** with nob heads like you in them :)
Technically i pay your wages, that's interesting no?
And as for the tard who just attempted to dismantle my life with a bunch of silly little posts
How pathetic are you?
Really?
Who works out of there Garage? Did it occur to you i have a business premises? Or were you just to busy trolling.... ?
All of the replys so far have the been the top notch eve related idiots
*look at me, i kill taliban, im awsum, u should do what i say cause i risk my life for you* No, u dont, u risk your life because you were stupid enuff to join the army in teh first place because you had 0 options in rl, other than work in tescos
So dont think being another killer in the army makes you any diffrent, because your a scumbag to me. Alrite?
Help for heroes my ass |

Purple Storm
Nooblets all in.
0
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Posted - 2012.05.23 12:16:00 -
[36] - Quote
LOL @ Lady Hofstedar for really having no clue that there is a diference between a game and RL. Go back to your awsome life and STFU |

Lady Hofstedar
Novindus Equilibrium Frentix Alliance
78
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Posted - 2012.05.23 12:19:00 -
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Purple Storm wrote:LOL @ Lady Hofstedar for really having no clue that there is a diference between a game and RL. Go back to your awsome life and STFU
Got abit touchy there didnt u
Didn't like what i typed or did i offend your *honour*
Get a life, this is the 21st century, armys dont defend civilized countrys anymore, we invade the weak and procalim them terroists.
Anytime sumone tells me to STFU cause he's *in the military*.
Go jump off a bridge, perhaps another innocent child in another country will live another week.
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Purple Storm
Nooblets all in.
0
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Posted - 2012.05.23 12:22:00 -
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Lady Hofstedar wrote:Purple Storm wrote:LOL @ Lady Hofstedar for really having no clue that there is a diference between a game and RL. Go back to your awsome life and STFU Got abit touchy there didnt u Didn't like what i typed or did i offend your *honour* Get a life, this is the 21st century, armys dont defend civilized countrys anymore, we invade the weak and procalim them terroists. Anytime sumone tells me to STFU cause he's *in the military*. Go jump off a bridge, perhaps another innocent child in another country will live another week.
Where did i ever say i was in the Military? I work for a university (fk mailroom) and don't give a rats ars. LOL about the no more army stuff just proves you have no clue. And somethign about that bridge statement reminds me of a certain goon that got banned for doing something similar.
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Lady Hofstedar
Novindus Equilibrium Frentix Alliance
78
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Posted - 2012.05.23 12:23:00 -
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Purple Storm wrote:Lady Hofstedar wrote:Purple Storm wrote:LOL @ Lady Hofstedar for really having no clue that there is a diference between a game and RL. Go back to your awsome life and STFU Got abit touchy there didnt u Didn't like what i typed or did i offend your *honour* Get a life, this is the 21st century, armys dont defend civilized countrys anymore, we invade the weak and procalim them terroists. Anytime sumone tells me to STFU cause he's *in the military*. Go jump off a bridge, perhaps another innocent child in another country will live another week. Where did i ever say i was in the Military? I work for a university (fk mailroom) and don't give a rats ars. LOL about the no more army stuff just proves you have no clue. And somethign about that bridge statement reminds me of a certain goon that got banned for doing something similar.
That your next course? cause all im doing here is FULL ON TROLLING YOU AND YOU CANT HELP BUT REPLY
go ahead n report me like a little boy running back to his mums breasts for another shot :)
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Elijah Bry'an Baudoin
EVE Exchange
6
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Posted - 2012.05.23 12:26:00 -
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Lady Hofstedar wrote:And as for the tard who just attempted to dismantle my life with a bunch of silly little posts
How pathetic are you?
Really?
Who works out of there Garage? Did it occur to you i have a business premises? Or were you just to busy trolling.... ? Actually I think they were demonstrating pretty well that somehow you think your comments on the changes CCP make to their game have credibility because you have strung together a few RL "achievements" together where - to be honest you've set the bar pretty low for yourself.
Now you seem to think abuse is the best form of argument, so I think you could ask yourself the same questions. Including are you trolling.
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Lady Hofstedar
Novindus Equilibrium Frentix Alliance
78
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Posted - 2012.05.23 12:27:00 -
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Elijah Bry'an Baudoin wrote:Lady Hofstedar wrote:And as for the tard who just attempted to dismantle my life with a bunch of silly little posts
How pathetic are you?
Really?
Who works out of there Garage? Did it occur to you i have a business premises? Or were you just to busy trolling.... ? Actually I think they were demonstrating pretty well that somehow you think your comments on the changes CCP make to their game have credibility because you have strung together a few RL "achievements" together where - to be honest you've set the bar pretty low for yourself. Now you seem to think abuse is the best form of argument, so I think you could ask yourself the same questions. Including are you trolling.
ill troll u in a minute aswell if u like, i cant logon to eve, i have 2 hours of jack crap to do cause i took a day off so yah
im good to troll anyone for about 2 hours :)
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Talon SilverHawk
Patria o Muerte
150
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Posted - 2012.05.23 12:28:00 -
[42] - Quote
Was going to respond in here, but I see the thread has gone to rat **** anyways...
IBTL
Tal
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Lady Hofstedar
Novindus Equilibrium Frentix Alliance
78
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Posted - 2012.05.23 12:30:00 -
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Talon SilverHawk wrote:Was going to respond in here, but I see the thread has gone to rat **** anyways...
IBTL
Tal
respect to fellow fiest reader :) |

Hannibal Ord
Fer-De-Lance
63
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Posted - 2012.05.23 12:30:00 -
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Purple Storm wrote:Lady Hofstedar wrote:Purple Storm wrote:LOL @ Lady Hofstedar for really having no clue that there is a diference between a game and RL. Go back to your awsome life and STFU Got abit touchy there didnt u Didn't like what i typed or did i offend your *honour* Get a life, this is the 21st century, armys dont defend civilized countrys anymore, we invade the weak and procalim them terroists. Anytime sumone tells me to STFU cause he's *in the military*. Go jump off a bridge, perhaps another innocent child in another country will live another week. Where did i ever say i was in the Military? I work for a university (fk mailroom) and don't give a rats ars. LOL about the no more army stuff just proves you have no clue. And somethign about that bridge statement reminds me of a certain goon that got banned for doing something similar.
He is talking about me. He thinks I'm trying to belittle him by stating that I was in the military, whereas I'm actually belittling him for being a bullshitter. He seems to have been confused by the fact that more than one person may have posted in reply to his bullshit.  |

Purple Storm
Nooblets all in.
0
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Posted - 2012.05.23 12:31:00 -
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Someone defenatly needs to learn that bitching at people trolling you is not a thing that makes it go away. No i am not reporting you since the bridge thign was not meant for me as far as i can tel atleast. You dragging your RL into a topic about a game is rather fail though and might need some solving. If you keep on posting like your doing you will only get trolled some more.
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Purple Storm
Nooblets all in.
0
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Posted - 2012.05.23 12:32:00 -
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[/quote] He is talking about me. He thinks I'm trying to belittle him by stating that I was in the military, whereas I'm actually belittling him for being a bullshitter. He seems to have been confused by the fact that more than one person may have posted in reply to his bullshit. [/quote]
Yea i know but he failed and quoted me in it  |

Lady Hofstedar
Novindus Equilibrium Frentix Alliance
78
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Posted - 2012.05.23 12:35:00 -
[47] - Quote
troll me
go for it
keep it up
im bored
but i cam going to go outside for a cigarette
ill catch up when i get back :) |

Hannibal Ord
Fer-De-Lance
63
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Posted - 2012.05.23 12:39:00 -
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Lady Hofstedar wrote:troll me
go for it
keep it up
im bored
but i cam going to go outside for a cigarette
ill catch up when i get back :)
You should try electronic ciggs. It means you can smoke inside without having to stop what you are doing. If you buy an expensive one, they are actually very much like having a normal cigarette, and over the long term cheaper than smoking normal tobacco and far better for your health. |

Malice Redeemer
Redeemer Group Joint Venture Conglomerate
79
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Posted - 2012.05.23 12:41:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Roime wrote:I'm referring to the 10+ threads on GD, which contain only emo teen rage with no substance. Like I said in my first post, this is just like the Great Neocom and Great Font rages. GǪexcept that those happened during the suggestion phase and that at least the font didn't remove functionality. There's also a huge difference between this kind of core UI that is used for pretty much anything you want to do in the game and the functionality lost through the neocom (which, incidentally, covers the one thing that doesn't involve item manipulation, viz. chatting). I think you'll also note that the 10+ threads of range in GD tend to refer back to the litany of complaints that had been raised during the last month and which was ignored, CQ-style, for the sake of shiny. The reasons for the shouting are well known; the shouting and teeth-gnashing is simply in support of having those known issues fixed. You have to realise that people have long since learned that CCP does not respond well to reasoned complaints. They respond to abuse and only then do they actually look at the complaints that have been raised. This is a self-destructive streak that CCP has had for many years now, and it doesn't look like it's going away any time soon. As a result, you kind of have to learn to live with the shouting because as soon as you concede that there are issues (and I know you're not dumb enough not to do that), shouting and threatening unsubs have sadly become the only means of getting the message through. Would I prefer it to be otherwise? Definitely, but these are the devs we've chosenGǪ  In fact, if anything, I'd say you've got it the completely wrong way around: it's the whiners who keep saying the system is working who consistently fail to offer any shred of substance to distinguish their nonsense from sheer trolling. All they can say is Gǣshift-clickGǥ, which, as has long been established, doesn't actually solve any of the problems people are having.
QF major T, thank you again for saying what I am unable to. |

Roime
Shiva Furnace Dead On Arrival Alliance
762
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Posted - 2012.05.23 12:43:00 -
[50] - Quote
Tippia wrote:Roime wrote:That is exactly why I compare these three, font & Neo-Neocom were both purely net improvements, with 0 functionality lost. Eh no. The necom was a reduction in functionality in terms of how well it handles chat channels and other, similar multiples of windows of the same category.
Instead of forcing you to keep a gutter for minimized chat windows (or have them overlapping other windows), new Neocom allows you to minimize them properly. Double-click the header bar to minimize them in a form that keeps member count visible. No functionality lost, just different.
Quote:The current UI is not a case of net improvements: it adds two things, solves a third, but breaks so much else that it lands squarely in the negative in terms of functionality. It may very well be that the functionality lost was something you never used, but trust me: it has lost far more than it has gained.
It's difficult to feel bad for losing features one doesn't need.
Quote:That is just blatantly wrong  stomping your feet and crying works well when you are 2 years old and you parents stupid, but every single adult being and organisation responds better to positive, constructive feedback. You'd think so. CCP has proven this not to be the case when dealing with them over and over (and over) again. Being well-reasoned makes nothing happen. Pissing in their cornflakes does.
It's only Gǣblatantly wrongGǥ in the sense of Gǣit shouldn't work that wayGǥ. It is unfortunately not blatantly wrong in the sense of Gǣthat's incorrectGǥGǪ [/quote]
If you'd start counting, you'd find that there are way more cases when reasoning has lead to changes, and only a few cases when statue-shooting has lead to anything, and even those few cases are debatable. You know that you are trying to turn our subjective opinion into a fact.
Quote:They, and I, are content with the new inventory. It has very usable features that improve my workflow. GǪand are unable to explain how or why, whereas those who are complaining about it have very long and very detailed lists of what's wrong by now (and have had those for many weeks).[/quote]
1. Filters in POS hangar Divs. To keep my gear organised in my hangar, I've resorted to using named GSCs. To use these, I had to swap to an indy to open the can. The new filters allow me to just lump everything in the hangar, and find everything easily and quickly.
2. Folder (container) tree. Instead of needing to have two windows open, I can move things from the open window to other containers.
3. Volume and value readouts. No more calculator for mundane tasks.
4. Less clicks and shorter dragging distances.
As I haven't experienced any missing features relevant to my workflows, it adds up to a positive change.
Gallente - the choice of the interstellar gentleman |

knulla
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
55
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Posted - 2012.05.23 12:43:00 -
[51] - Quote
Malice Redeemer wrote:Tippia wrote:Roime wrote:I'm referring to the 10+ threads on GD, which contain only emo teen rage with no substance. Like I said in my first post, this is just like the Great Neocom and Great Font rages. GǪexcept that those happened during the suggestion phase and that at least the font didn't remove functionality. There's also a huge difference between this kind of core UI that is used for pretty much anything you want to do in the game and the functionality lost through the neocom (which, incidentally, covers the one thing that doesn't involve item manipulation, viz. chatting). I think you'll also note that the 10+ threads of range in GD tend to refer back to the litany of complaints that had been raised during the last month and which was ignored, CQ-style, for the sake of shiny. The reasons for the shouting are well known; the shouting and teeth-gnashing is simply in support of having those known issues fixed. You have to realise that people have long since learned that CCP does not respond well to reasoned complaints. They respond to abuse and only then do they actually look at the complaints that have been raised. This is a self-destructive streak that CCP has had for many years now, and it doesn't look like it's going away any time soon. As a result, you kind of have to learn to live with the shouting because as soon as you concede that there are issues (and I know you're not dumb enough not to do that), shouting and threatening unsubs have sadly become the only means of getting the message through. Would I prefer it to be otherwise? Definitely, but these are the devs we've chosenGǪ  In fact, if anything, I'd say you've got it the completely wrong way around: it's the whiners who keep saying the system is working who consistently fail to offer any shred of substance to distinguish their nonsense from sheer trolling. All they can say is Gǣshift-clickGǥ, which, as has long been established, doesn't actually solve any of the problems people are having. QF major T, thank you again for saying what I am unable to.
I thought you quit? -áMalice Redeemer - "Post if you are unsubing over the new inventory" -áPosted: 2012.05.23 01:39
-á-á-á-álol |

MisterArch
Pretenders Inc W-Space
0
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Posted - 2012.05.23 12:44:00 -
[52] - Quote
Well. I'd ask someone liking the new inventroy to go to the POS and try to break through than inventory. Having all the turrets in the inventory navigation, alongside with all the other structures... Not mentioning problems with dividing loot between containers and so on... For those living at POSes it is awful. |
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CCP Soundwave
C C P C C P Alliance
997

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Posted - 2012.05.23 12:46:00 -
[53] - Quote
There's about 5 inventory threads going right now and I can't keep up with all of them. I'm going to stick to posting in this one: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1346084#post1346084 |
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Jack Paladin
Solar Storm Intrepid Crossing
154
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Posted - 2012.05.23 12:47:00 -
[54] - Quote
This thread did show signs of recovery but now .... *sad face*. Waiting for CCP to clear out all the bs posts. +1 to those of you who actually gave a point of view and detailed reply on the new Inventory UI.
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Steijn
Quay Industries
74
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Posted - 2012.05.23 12:52:00 -
[55] - Quote
Roime wrote:Darth Kilth wrote:Nobody is complaining for the sake of complaining, if that is why you think everyone is complaining it is not a miracle you don't get why they are complaining. The new UI is brilliant, yes, but poorly worked out and thats why we hate it, not because its 'different'
But I guess you are just fishing for attention here, and not for actual discussion. Maybe the problem is that none of the complainers can actually point out anything that is wrong with the inventory? It's all just bloblooblooo I unsub bloobloo.
1 thing - it lags like ****!!!.
Considering CCP had this massive 'war on lag' episode awhile back, its absolutely hilarious to find them contradicting themselves so quickly and inducing more lag into the game. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
7124
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Posted - 2012.05.23 13:04:00 -
[56] - Quote
Roime wrote:Instead of forcing you to keep a gutter for minimized chat windows (or have them overlapping other windows), new Neocom allows you to minimize them properly. Double-click the header bar to minimize them in a form that keeps member count visible. GǪand have them take up much more space in a location where they're kind of in the way while minimised.
Quote:It's difficult to feel bad for losing features one doesn't need, and bloobloo I unsub, trust me I know bloobloo doesn't really change that. GǪit worked the last time. 
Quote:If you'd start counting, you'd find that there are way more cases when reasoning has lead to changes, and only a few cases when statue-shooting has lead to anything, and even those few cases are debatable. They've increased with time, and the cases are not really debatable. We got the hangar back and we're only now getting any kind of response to the UI feedback (and let's go through all the carrier and capship revampsGǪ) because people yelled. A lot. If the reasoning had worked, they wouldn't have happened to begin with.
Quote:As I haven't experienced any missing features relevant to my workflows, it adds up to a positive change. The things you've listed are things that everyone else agrees are nice as well (aside from #4, since more clicking and dragging is among the many complaints), but here's the thing: most of them already existed GÇö they're not actual improvements, just the same thing presented in a new way. I'm talking about the issues being presented and why they somehow don't count as being issues and how GÇ£shift clickGÇ¥ GÇö the standard troll response GÇö in any way eases or removes those issues. Dismissing issues because you have a minute set of use cases where they don't appear, and then grandly proclaiming that it's working fine is downright insulting. No reason is given why the complaints are invalid and that things are actually fine.
And again, you're kind of only raising the question GÇ£wth were you doing before if you had those problems?!GÇ¥ GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Shift-click does nothing GÇö why the Unified Inventory isn't ready for primetime. |

Roime
Shiva Furnace Dead On Arrival Alliance
762
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Posted - 2012.05.23 13:19:00 -
[57] - Quote
Tippia wrote:GǪand have them take up much more space in a location where they're kind of in the way while minimised.
They have the same pixel height, with the difference that you don't have to reserve screen estate for a place to minimize them.
Quote:The things you've listed are things that everyone else agrees are nice as well (aside from #4, since more clicking and dragging is among the many complaints), but here's the thing: most of them already existed GÇö they're not actual improvements, just the same thing presented in a new way. I'm talking about the issues being presented and why they somehow don't count as being issues and how GÇ£shift clickGÇ¥ GÇö the standard troll response GÇö in any way eases or removes those issues. Dismissing issues because you have a minute set of use cases where they don't appear, and then grandly proclaiming that it's working fine is downright insulting. No reason is given why the complaints are invalid and that things are actually fine.
And again, you're kind of only raising the question GÇ£wth were you doing before if you had those problems?!GÇ¥
When I lived in K-space, I had a neatly organised base in a station, with opened GSC windows covering most of the docked up view. Now I live in the Great Unknown, and have assets in the stinking hangar divs and spread across 30+ systems just on this character. The new system provides me with the same functionality as the GSC version, without me actually wasting any time or money to do it... and using much less screen estate to achieve it.
Same with my indy alt, no more hassle with blueprints or mineral stacks, just lump it all in one hangar and forget.
PI alts, trade alt, even my bomber alt living out of a can has it easier. This is my subjective experience.
I didn't say that the complaints are invalid, when someone actually made the effort and listed them. All I'm saying that bloobloo I unsub bloobloo is an invalid method of operation, in this case like it is in every other case.
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Reverend Cletis
Synister Mynisters
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Lady Hofstedar wrote:Jack Paladin wrote:Note: Realising the audience that will likely reply to this topic, I shall not be pouring my blood and tears into a heartfelt rant that will ultimately lead me to WIN eve. So I will keep it nice and simple. Stop complaining for the sake of complaining.The new UI is BRILLIANT. Just cause you basement dwellers are too fail to adapt to change and anything remotely different introduced is indicitive of one thing. You suck at EVE. Learn to play the game or GTFO. I heard http://www.eveuniversity.org is really good for players wanting to learn how to play the game. And your stuff .... keep it. Do not want. Lastly, you need to be reminded of one thing. http://www.whiteroseconventicle.com/images/stories/eve_learning_curve.pngThankyou for the time. That is all. hey little boy from fail little alliance that cant stand on its own feet without big brother back up Im a cisco engineer who runs his own company im married 3 kids soon to b 4 i gross45k a year a MINIMUM I hate the new UI, u wanna know why? Because its pure 100% shite I can guarentee i have a higher IQ than you stfu n GTFO u stupid little russian pet Tool
Do you know who the fathers are?
Regardless, no one cares. It's called an OPINION. It is neither right nor wrong. We all have them.
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Darion Amador
Nice Peace
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Posted - 2012.05.23 13:43:00 -
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Personally i think the poor devs should get their own forum where they can rant at the players   |

Josef Djugashvilis
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Posted - 2012.05.23 13:52:00 -
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Lady Hofstedar wrote:Purple Storm wrote:LOL @ Lady Hofstedar for really having no clue that there is a diference between a game and RL. Go back to your awsome life and STFU Got abit touchy there didnt u Didn't like what i typed or did i offend your *honour* Get a life, this is the 21st century, armys dont defend civilized countrys anymore, we invade the weak and procalim them terroists. Anytime sumone tells me to STFU cause he's *in the military*. Go jump off a bridge, perhaps another innocent child in another country will live another week.
Lady you would be on safer ground if you dropped the IQ bit as you show precious little evidence of it here. You want fries with that? |
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