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Jack Paladin Solar Storm Intrepid Crossing 146	Posted - 2012.05.23 10:25:00 - [1] - Quote Note: Realising the audience that will likely reply to this topic, I shall not be pouring my blood and tears into a heartfelt rant that will ultimately lead me to WIN eve. So I will keep it nice and simple. Stop complaining for the sake of complaining. The new UI is BRILLIANT. Just cause you basement dwellers are too fail to adapt to change and anything remotely different introduced is indicitive of one thing. You suck at EVE. Learn to play the game or GTFO. I heard http://www.eveuniversity.org is really good for players wanting to learn how to play the game. And your stuff .... keep it. Do not want. Lastly, you need to be reminded of one thing. http://www.whiteroseconventicle.com/images/stories/eve_learning_curve.png Thankyou for the time. That is all.
Graic Gabtar The Lemon Party 237	Posted - 2012.05.23 10:27:00 - [2] - Quote Yep, that'll stop em. EVE shall be purged by fire - please Gods let them ALL burn in Jita.
Jack Paladin Solar Storm Intrepid Crossing 146	Posted - 2012.05.23 10:29:00 - [3] - Quote Graic Gabtar wrote: Yep, that'll stop em. Damn right. Knowing the responses you will get before making a post is the pinacle of posting on EVE-O.
Darth Kilth Clan Exiled Legends 28	Posted - 2012.05.23 10:30:00 - [4] - Quote Nobody is complaining for the sake of complaining, if that is why you think everyone is complaining it is not a miracle you don't get why they are complaining. The new UI is brilliant, yes, but poorly worked out and thats why we hate it, not because its 'different' But I guess you are just fishing for attention here, and not for actual discussion.
Talon SilverHawk Patria o Muerte 149	Posted - 2012.05.23 10:32:00 - [5] - Quote Need to get pest control in for the trolls. Tal
Jack Paladin Solar Storm Intrepid Crossing 147	Posted - 2012.05.23 10:37:00 - [6] - Quote Talon SilverHawk wrote: Need to get pest control in for the trolls. Tal Adaptive Pest Control Resistance crits you for over 9000, try again. MOAR TEARS!
Jack Paladin Solar Storm Intrepid Crossing 147	Posted - 2012.05.23 10:42:00 - [7] - Quote Darth Kilth wrote: Nobody is complaining for the sake of complaining, if that is why you think everyone is complaining it is not a miracle you don't get why they are complaining. The new UI is brilliant, yes, but poorly worked out and thats why we hate it, not because its 'different' But I guess you are just fishing for attention here, and not for actual discussion. When the situation demands it, my Troll hat will get put away and my Diplomatic Discussion hat will get dusted off. Sadly, this is what the EVE forums have become... Until someone actually proves they are willing to have a genuine disucssion with me regarding the current state of EVE, I reserve that energy for more productive uses.
Roime Shiva Furnace Dead On Arrival Alliance 760	Posted - 2012.05.23 10:45:00 - [8] - Quote Darth Kilth wrote: Nobody is complaining for the sake of complaining, if that is why you think everyone is complaining it is not a miracle you don't get why they are complaining. The new UI is brilliant, yes, but poorly worked out and thats why we hate it, not because its 'different' But I guess you are just fishing for attention here, and not for actual discussion. Maybe the problem is that none of the complainers can actually point out anything that is wrong with the inventory? It's all just bloblooblooo I unsub bloobloo. Gallente - the choice of the interstellar gentleman
Kiteo Hatto The Fiction Factory Blue Nation 1	Posted - 2012.05.23 10:49:00 - [9] - Quote I like the new inventory, was annoyed at how Amarr ships became copper, but thats just it, an annoyance, im sure i will be used to the look soon. I can't understand what the fuss is about unless maybe more "hassle" for those who micromanage a bazillion alts at once.
Nalha Saldana Aliastra Gallente Federation 267	Posted - 2012.05.23 10:50:00 - [10] - Quote The new inventory is good but still have some major issues. Being at a POS blows up the list with all the guns making it horrible to navigate, there is no division memory for structures etc.
Spanking Monkeys ZC Industries Dark Stripes 16	Posted - 2012.05.23 10:52:00 - [11] - Quote Roime wrote: Darth Kilth wrote: Nobody is complaining for the sake of complaining, if that is why you think everyone is complaining it is not a miracle you don't get why they are complaining. The new UI is brilliant, yes, but poorly worked out and thats why we hate it, not because its 'different' But I guess you are just fishing for attention here, and not for actual discussion. Maybe the problem is that none of the complainers can actually point out anything that is wrong with the inventory? It's all just bloblooblooo I unsub bloobloo. we were pointing out what was wrong with it weeks before the patch. little changed with it. the dev responisble said he wouldnt listern to feed back, just take user interaction as a guide. prob with that is sisi is very different to tq and user interaction develops all sort of other issues. basicly they should haev delayed it, until all the issues were fixed on sisi. they were told repeatedly
Jonah Gravenstein 339	Posted - 2012.05.23 10:53:00 - [12] - Quote Filters, the new UI has them. please note I don't actually own a POS but the filters seem to work pretty well for everything else so why not POS modules War hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 7112	Posted - 2012.05.23 10:53:00 - [13] - Quote Roime wrote: Maybe the problem is that none of the complainers can actually point out anything that is wrong with the inventory? GÇªyou mean aside from the many many pages that have been written on the subject in both the test feedback and the blog comment threads? Don't play dumb. No, the OP is the one who's complaining for the sake of complaining so I suppose we can expect him to GTFO post-haste. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Shift-click does nothing GÇö why the Unified Inventory isn't ready for primetime.
Malice Redeemer Redeemer Group Joint Venture Conglomerate 75	Posted - 2012.05.23 10:54:00 - [14] - Quote Jonah Gravenstein wrote: Filters, the new UI has them. please note I don't actually own a POS but the filters seem to work pretty well for everything else so why not POS modules lol, ignorance is bliss
Jonah Gravenstein 339	Posted - 2012.05.23 10:55:00 - [15] - Quote if ignorance is bliss then I am indeed a very happy man War hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside.
Graic Gabtar The Lemon Party 237	Posted - 2012.05.23 10:56:00 - [16] - Quote Roime wrote: Darth Kilth wrote: Nobody is complaining for the sake of complaining, if that is why you think everyone is complaining it is not a miracle you don't get why they are complaining. The new UI is brilliant, yes, but poorly worked out and thats why we hate it, not because its 'different' But I guess you are just fishing for attention here, and not for actual discussion. Maybe the problem is that none of the complainers can actually point out anything that is wrong with the inventory? It's all just bloblooblooo I unsub bloobloo. I'd be surprised if the player base would ever do that! Look there are a few issues I've seen already. They were probably reported on SISI - I don't know. I don't pay to test games for people. Rather spend my free time up to my nuts in guts. I notice wrecks open very slowly or not at all. Cargo containers once looted don't move focus to the previous one, but switch to your ships inventory. etc. All fixable but annoying for now. If people want to unsub, go wild. I don't hold it against ya. I did the same over Incarna. This isn't my hill to die on though. Gonna have some beer and see where little Graic leads me while I watch. EVE shall be purged by fire - please Gods let them ALL burn in Jita.
Darth Kilth Clan Exiled Legends 31	Posted - 2012.05.23 10:56:00 - [17] - Quote Roime wrote: Darth Kilth wrote: Nobody is complaining for the sake of complaining, if that is why you think everyone is complaining it is not a miracle you don't get why they are complaining. The new UI is brilliant, yes, but poorly worked out and thats why we hate it, not because its 'different' But I guess you are just fishing for attention here, and not for actual discussion. Maybe the problem is that none of the complainers can actually point out anything that is wrong with the inventory? It's all just bloblooblooo I unsub bloobloo. Actually, a lot of people have pointed out several of the glaring issues with the new sytem in many different topics, but everyone just seems to ignore those posts and instead troll all the ones that don't explain why they hate the system. There is a difference between there not being a problem and ignoring it. So, lets write up some of the common issues with the new UI: Previously set up windows don't automaticly open, more shift+clicking is required Badly designed layout wastes real estate of inventory screen making it take up more room then before and more clutterd Managing Capital ship cargo bays, POS and Corp hangars has become a major hassle and due to bad design takes much extra time to use and is often frustrating to use. Extra windows are buggy and seem to not update themselves properly on a consistent basis creating ghost items. Loads up all the cargo bays before showing, even those you are not viewing, increasing load times for people with many goods or people trying to check their own ships cargo bay when parked next to a POS or something Anything beyond the basics now requires a few extra mouse clicks and button presses to do. New inventory seems intento on showing your ships cargo bay when ever the container/wreck you currently view disapears, causing extra clicks to go to other containers/wrecks. There is more but I couldn't bother writing more of it as I will most likely get someone like Knulla who just ignore any points I make and just call me mad.
Roime Shiva Furnace Dead On Arrival Alliance 761	Posted - 2012.05.23 10:58:00 - [18] - Quote Tippia wrote: Roime wrote: Maybe the problem is that none of the complainers can actually point out anything that is wrong with the inventory? GÇªyou mean aside from the many many pages that have been written on the subject in both the test feedback and the blog comment threads? Don't play dumb. I'm referring to the 10+ threads on GD, which contain only emo teen rage with no substance. Like I said in my first post, this is just like the Great Neocom and Great Font rages. Gallente - the choice of the interstellar gentleman
Jack Paladin Solar Storm Intrepid Crossing 149	Posted - 2012.05.23 11:01:00 - [19] - Quote Darth Kilth wrote: Roime wrote: Darth Kilth wrote: Nobody is complaining for the sake of complaining, if that is why you think everyone is complaining it is not a miracle you don't get why they are complaining. The new UI is brilliant, yes, but poorly worked out and thats why we hate it, not because its 'different' But I guess you are just fishing for attention here, and not for actual discussion. Maybe the problem is that none of the complainers can actually point out anything that is wrong with the inventory? It's all just bloblooblooo I unsub bloobloo. Actually, a lot of people have pointed out several of the glaring issues with the new sytem in many different topics, but everyone just seems to ignore those posts and instead troll all the ones that don't explain why they hate the system. There is a difference between there not being a problem and ignoring it. So, lets write up some of the common issues with the new UI: Previously set up windows don't automaticly open, more shift+clicking is required Badly designed layout wastes real estate of inventory screen making it take up more room then before and more clutterd Managing Capital ship cargo bays, POS and Corp hangars has become a major hassle and due to bad design takes much extra time to use and is often frustrating to use. Extra windows are buggy and seem to not update themselves properly on a consistent basis creating ghost items. Loads up all the cargo bays before showing, even those you are not viewing, increasing load times for people with many goods or people trying to check their own ships cargo bay when parked next to a POS or something Anything beyond the basics now requires a few extra mouse clicks and button presses to do. New inventory seems intento on showing your ships cargo bay when ever the container/wreck you currently view disapears, causing extra clicks to go to other containers/wrecks. There is more but I couldn't bother writing more of it as I will most likely get someone like Knulla who just ignore any points I make and just call me mad. THIS ^^^^ is a constructive post.
pussnheels Vintage heavy industries 327	Posted - 2012.05.23 11:03:00 - [20] - Quote Kiteo Hatto wrote: I like the new inventory, was annoyed at how Amarr ships became copper, but thats just it, an annoyance, im sure i will be used to the look soon. I can't understand what the fuss is about unless maybe more "hassle" for those who micromanage a bazillion alts at once. What have you done with my beautiful golden ship , i ve been away for more than 6 months , resubbed last night and to my horror i find none of my beautiful golden ships, only brown ugly things This is the main reason we should burn jita No honestly i am not a fan of those new amarrskin , but i will get used to it eventually I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire
Lady Hofstedar Novindus Equilibrium Frentix Alliance 77	Posted - 2012.05.23 11:05:00 - [21] - Quote Jack Paladin wrote: Note: Realising the audience that will likely reply to this topic, I shall not be pouring my blood and tears into a heartfelt rant that will ultimately lead me to WIN eve. So I will keep it nice and simple. Stop complaining for the sake of complaining. The new UI is BRILLIANT. Just cause you basement dwellers are too fail to adapt to change and anything remotely different introduced is indicitive of one thing. You suck at EVE. Learn to play the game or GTFO. I heard http://www.eveuniversity.org is really good for players wanting to learn how to play the game. And your stuff .... keep it. Do not want. Lastly, you need to be reminded of one thing. http://www.whiteroseconventicle.com/images/stories/eve_learning_curve.png Thankyou for the time. That is all. hey little boy from fail little alliance that cant stand on its own feet without big brother back up Im a cisco engineer who runs his own company im married 3 kids soon to b 4 i gross45k a year a MINIMUM I hate the new UI, u wanna know why? Because its pure 100% shite I can guarentee i have a higher IQ than you stfu n GTFO u stupid little russian pet Tool
Roime Shiva Furnace Dead On Arrival Alliance 762	Posted - 2012.05.23 11:05:00 - [22] - Quote Darth Kilth wrote: Previously set up windows don't automaticly open, more shift+clicking is required Badly designed layout wastes real estate of inventory screen making it take up more room then before and more clutterd Managing Capital ship cargo bays, POS and Corp hangars has become a major hassle and due to bad design takes much extra time to use and is often frustrating to use. Extra windows are buggy and seem to not update themselves properly on a consistent basis creating ghost items. Loads up all the cargo bays before showing, even those you are not viewing, increasing load times for people with many goods or people trying to check their own ships cargo bay when parked next to a POS or something Anything beyond the basics now requires a few extra mouse clicks and button presses to do. New inventory seems intento on showing your ships cargo bay when ever the container/wreck you currently view disapears, causing extra clicks to go to other containers/wrecks. There is more but I couldn't bother writing more of it as I will most likely get someone like Knulla who just ignore any points I make and just call me mad. Thanks, that makes more sense. I don't agree with more clicks, I find it quite the opposite, also POS life became much more comfortable for me. Windows not remembering positions is a real issue, but I don't think it's that difficult to fix. Anyway, complaints like yours are bound to get more constructive replies than the countless of ridiculous posts that now flood GD. Gallente - the choice of the interstellar gentleman
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 7114	Posted - 2012.05.23 11:10:00 - [23] - Quote Roime wrote: I'm referring to the 10+ threads on GD, which contain only emo teen rage with no substance. Like I said in my first post, this is just like the Great Neocom and Great Font rages. GÇªexcept that those happened during the suggestion phase and that at least the font didn't remove functionality. There's also a huge difference between this kind of core UI that is used for pretty much anything you want to do in the game and the functionality lost through the neocom (which, incidentally, covers the one thing that doesn't involve item manipulation, viz. chatting). I think you'll also note that the 10+ threads of range in GD tend to refer back to the litany of complaints that had been raised during the last month and which was ignored, CQ-style, for the sake of shiny. The reasons for the shouting are well known; the shouting and teeth-gnashing is simply in support of having those known issues fixed. You have to realise that people have long since learned that CCP does not respond well to reasoned complaints. They respond to abuse and only then do they actually look at the complaints that have been raised. This is a self-destructive streak that CCP has had for many years now, and it doesn't look like it's going away any time soon. As a result, you kind of have to learn to live with the shouting because as soon as you concede that there are issues (and I know you're not dumb enough not to do that), shouting and threatening unsubs have sadly become the only means of getting the message through. Would I prefer it to be otherwise? Definitely, but these are the devs we've chosenGÇª GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Shift-click does nothing GÇö why the Unified Inventory isn't ready for primetime.
Maledictum Aideron Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 2	Posted - 2012.05.23 11:10:00 - [24] - Quote Graic Gabtar wrote: I don't know. Sums up your reply, the OP's reply and every other "whine about whining" thread. Yet as usual, you post anyway. Also, learn to read, the reasons have been given.
Jack Paladin Solar Storm Intrepid Crossing 152	Posted - 2012.05.23 11:18:00 - [25] - Quote Lady Hofstedar wrote: Jack Paladin wrote: Note: Realising the audience that will likely reply to this topic, I shall not be pouring my blood and tears into a heartfelt rant that will ultimately lead me to WIN eve. So I will keep it nice and simple. Stop complaining for the sake of complaining. The new UI is BRILLIANT. Just cause you basement dwellers are too fail to adapt to change and anything remotely different introduced is indicitive of one thing. You suck at EVE. Learn to play the game or GTFO. I heard http://www.eveuniversity.org is really good for players wanting to learn how to play the game. And your stuff .... keep it. Do not want. Lastly, you need to be reminded of one thing. http://www.whiteroseconventicle.com/images/stories/eve_learning_curve.png Thankyou for the time. That is all. hey little boy from fail little alliance that cant stand on its own feet without big brother back up Im a cisco engineer who runs his own company im married 3 kids soon to b 4 i gross45k a year a MINIMUM I hate the new UI, u wanna know why? Because its pure 100% shite I can guarentee i have a higher IQ than you stfu n GTFO u stupid little russian pet Tool Seems only fair I respond to this in a similar manner. http://www.spellcheck.net/ ... now also with Grammar - http://www.spellchecker.net/grammar/
Hannibal Ord Fer-De-Lance 60	Posted - 2012.05.23 11:23:00 - [26] - Quote Lady Hofstedar wrote: Jack Paladin wrote: Note: Realising the audience that will likely reply to this topic, I shall not be pouring my blood and tears into a heartfelt rant that will ultimately lead me to WIN eve. So I will keep it nice and simple. Stop complaining for the sake of complaining. The new UI is BRILLIANT. Just cause you basement dwellers are too fail to adapt to change and anything remotely different introduced is indicitive of one thing. You suck at EVE. Learn to play the game or GTFO. I heard http://www.eveuniversity.org is really good for players wanting to learn how to play the game. And your stuff .... keep it. Do not want. Lastly, you need to be reminded of one thing. http://www.whiteroseconventicle.com/images/stories/eve_learning_curve.png Thankyou for the time. That is all. hey little boy from fail little alliance that cant stand on its own feet without big brother back up Im a cisco engineer who runs his own company im married 3 kids soon to b 4 i gross45k a year a MINIMUM I hate the new UI, u wanna know why? Because its pure 100% shite I can guarentee i have a higher IQ than you stfu n GTFO u stupid little russian pet Tool Really? If that is the case your writing ability clearly (even with all that intelligence) needs an awful lot of work. With that in mind, I'm going to just shout out what most of us are thinking. "Bullshit"
Lady Hofstedar Novindus Equilibrium Frentix Alliance 77	Posted - 2012.05.23 11:24:00 - [27] - Quote Hannibal Ord wrote: Lady Hofstedar wrote: Jack Paladin wrote: Note: Realising the audience that will likely reply to this topic, I shall not be pouring my blood and tears into a heartfelt rant that will ultimately lead me to WIN eve. So I will keep it nice and simple. Stop complaining for the sake of complaining. The new UI is BRILLIANT. Just cause you basement dwellers are too fail to adapt to change and anything remotely different introduced is indicitive of one thing. You suck at EVE. Learn to play the game or GTFO. I heard http://www.eveuniversity.org is really good for players wanting to learn how to play the game. And your stuff .... keep it. Do not want. Lastly, you need to be reminded of one thing. http://www.whiteroseconventicle.com/images/stories/eve_learning_curve.png Thankyou for the time. That is all. hey little boy from fail little alliance that cant stand on its own feet without big brother back up Im a cisco engineer who runs his own company im married 3 kids soon to b 4 i gross45k a year a MINIMUM I hate the new UI, u wanna know why? Because its pure 100% shite I can guarentee i have a higher IQ than you stfu n GTFO u stupid little russian pet Tool Really? If that is the case your writing ability clearly (even with all that intelligence) needs an awful lot of work. With that in mind, I'm going to just shout out what most of us are thinking. "Bullshit" Think what you like, i am type 4 dislexic, i make no effort to hide what i am, ur stupid little boys hiding in your mums houses Not even half of you would be as gobby in real life, your pathetic internet warriors
Gibbo3771 AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse 91	Posted - 2012.05.23 11:31:00 - [28] - Quote lol, someone from IRC linking Eve uni website telling people to go learn the game.... I am surpised your friends are not helping you gank the thread. Everytime you dont like my comments/posts the terrorists win and your a disgrace to your country.
knulla School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 54	Posted - 2012.05.23 11:34:00 - [29] - Quote Lady Hofstedar wrote: Hannibal Ord wrote: Lady Hofstedar wrote: Jack Paladin wrote: Note: Realising the audience that will likely reply to this topic, I shall not be pouring my blood and tears into a heartfelt rant that will ultimately lead me to WIN eve. So I will keep it nice and simple. Stop complaining for the sake of complaining. The new UI is BRILLIANT. Just cause you basement dwellers are too fail to adapt to change and anything remotely different introduced is indicitive of one thing. You suck at EVE. Learn to play the game or GTFO. I heard http://www.eveuniversity.org is really good for players wanting to learn how to play the game. And your stuff .... keep it. Do not want. Lastly, you need to be reminded of one thing. http://www.whiteroseconventicle.com/images/stories/eve_learning_curve.png Thankyou for the time. That is all. hey little boy from fail little alliance that cant stand on its own feet without big brother back up Im a cisco engineer who runs his own company im married 3 kids soon to b 4 i gross45k a year a MINIMUM I hate the new UI, u wanna know why? Because its pure 100% shite I can guarentee i have a higher IQ than you stfu n GTFO u stupid little russian pet Tool Really? If that is the case your writing ability clearly (even with all that intelligence) needs an awful lot of work. With that in mind, I'm going to just shout out what most of us are thinking. "Bullshit" Think what you like, i am type 4 dislexic, i make no effort to hide what i am, ur stupid little boys hiding in your mums houses Not even half of you would be as gobby in real life, your pathetic internet warriors Trust me, 90% of Russia even when drunk have a higher IQ then you. By the way, try and strop spreading so damn much. World does not need more bastards.
Jack Paladin Solar Storm Intrepid Crossing 153	Posted - 2012.05.23 11:35:00 - [30] - Quote Gibbo3771 wrote: lol, someone from IRC linking Eve uni website telling people to go learn the game.... I am surpised your friends are not helping you gank the thread. Not really relevant to the OP but you assume everyone in IRC supports the current alliance policies? Corporation may be in the alliance but our morals about the game and how to play it may be very different.

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