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Peter Raptor
Plutonian Army
171
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Posted - 2012.05.23 11:10:00 -
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At the moment theres hardly any incentive to PVP when you can loose hundreds of millions of isk worth of ships and modules and the only thing you get if you do win is.........a place on some obscure killboard.
We should have Killmarks! ( I got this name from that silly game Air Rivals)
When you kill a ship you get a Killmark which could be used to manufacture T2 goods etc.
Better ships destroyed, better Killmarks gotten.
Killmarks could be traded on Market.
Best incentive to PVP is rewards, not some stat on a killboard, which is ok, but not enough.
Even a humble miner like myself would then fit Torpedo launchers on the mighty Hulk...............well, maybe.
Evelopedia;-á
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Ohanka
The Lone Patrol
Tactical Narcotics Team
49
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Posted - 2012.05.23 11:12:00 -
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I don't like it. |
Gibbo3771
AQUILA INC
Verge of Collapse
90
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Posted - 2012.05.23 11:13:00 -
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Peter Raptor wrote:At the moment theres hardly any incentive to PVP when you can loose hundreds of millions of isk worth of ships and modules and the only thing you get if you do win is.........a place on some obscure killboard.
We should have Killmarks! ( I got this name from that silly game Air Rivals)
When you kill a ship you get a Killmark which could be used to manufacture T2 goods etc.
Better ships destroyed, better Killmarks gotten.
Killmarks could be traded on Market.
Best incentive to PVP is rewards, not some stat on a killboard, which is ok, but not enough.
Even a humble miner like myself would then fit Torpedo launchers on the mighty Hulk...............well, maybe.
Mining carebear suggests a way to improve pvp yet has never even done it.
Everytime you dont like my comments/posts the terrorists win and your a disgrace to your country. |
St Mio
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
804
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Posted - 2012.05.23 11:13:00 -
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Then I form a club with my alts and friends and we kill each other and suddenly we're all filthy rich, swimming in killmarks! |
Malice Redeemer
Redeemer Group
Joint Venture Conglomerate
76
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Posted - 2012.05.23 11:13:00 -
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go play wow or something |
Peter Raptor
Plutonian Army
171
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Posted - 2012.05.23 11:14:00 -
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Ohanka wrote:I don't like it.
You dont want more rewards to PVP?
Evelopedia;-á
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DarkAegix
Acetech Systems
1118
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Posted - 2012.05.23 11:14:00 -
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Sure, but as long as there are diminishing returns for the fleet size involved in the kill.
It could sort of be like how FW rewards for kills, but be more focussed towards the pirate factions. |
Aiko Hanomaa
State War Academy
Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2012.05.23 11:15:00 -
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I don't think this game needs even more incentives to blow up your own alts. |
octahexx Charante
Lamb Federation Navy
Against ALL Authorities
14
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Posted - 2012.05.23 11:15:00 -
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i would rather have actuall killmarks painted on my shiphull for kills:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/last_lightning/4334283535/ |
DarkAegix
Acetech Systems
1118
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Posted - 2012.05.23 11:15:00 -
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St Mio wrote:Then I form a club with my alts and friends and we kill each other and suddenly we're all filthy rich, swimming in killmarks!
Link these killmark thingoes to the ISK destroyed, using the same formula which is used in FW, at present.
It's not rocket surgery. |
Peter Raptor
Plutonian Army
171
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Posted - 2012.05.23 11:16:00 -
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St Mio wrote:Then I form a club with my alts and friends and we kill each other and suddenly we're all filthy rich, swimming in killmarks!
To get good killmarks your friends would have to sacrifice expensive ships and modules, you'd lose out.
Evelopedia;-á
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War Kitten
Panda McLegion
881
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Posted - 2012.05.23 11:17:00 -
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We don't need something to manufacture T2 items as a reward to pvp.
We get instant rewards of looting all your T2 modules without the messy manufacturing stuff.
Bad idea is bad.
Here's your sign... |
Peter Raptor
Plutonian Army
171
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Posted - 2012.05.23 11:18:00 -
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Cool idea, I like that too 
Evelopedia;-á
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Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club
92
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Posted - 2012.05.23 11:21:00 -
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Getting fights and kills is reward, you want points and flowers GTFO to WoW.
I am not my skills but...
http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |
Peter Raptor
Plutonian Army
171
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Posted - 2012.05.23 11:26:00 -
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Schmata Bastanold wrote:Getting fights and kills is reward, you want points and flowers GTFO to WoW.
Ok ok, just CALM DOWN
I just don't think revamping FW alone will have a huge impact on increasing pvp in eve, so just a suggestion, reward people more to get into pvp.
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Ohanka
The Lone Patrol
Tactical Narcotics Team
51
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Posted - 2012.05.23 11:36:00 -
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Peter Raptor wrote:Ohanka wrote:I don't like it. You dont want more rewards to PVP?
I didn't say that.
I said i don't like this particular idea. |
Tobiaz
Spacerats
478
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Posted - 2012.05.23 11:36:00 -
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Peter Raptor wrote:Ohanka wrote:I don't like it. You dont want more rewards to PVP?
Not some weird arbitrary ones, thank you very much.
Edit: oh and by the way there IS a mechanic that does this already, only better: FW kills now get you LP which you can then spend in LP Stores for stuff, some of it needed to make other stuff.
Only in FW it actually makes sense (NPC Factions propping up their militias)
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Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club
92
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Posted - 2012.05.23 11:40:00 -
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Peter Raptor wrote:I just don't think revamping FW alone will have a huge impact on increasing pvp in eve, so just a suggestion, reward people more to get into pvp.
You know what would increase pvp? Ship spinners undocking their shiny hulls and jumping out of hisec. But I don't think that will happen because of your points idea.
I am not my skills but...
http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
30
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Posted - 2012.05.23 11:45:00 -
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Peter Raptor wrote:At the moment theres hardly any incentive to PVP when you can loose hundreds of millions of isk worth of ships and modules and the only thing you get if you do win is.........a place on some obscure killboard.
We should have Killmarks! ( I got this name from that silly game Air Rivals)
When you kill a ship you get a Killmark which could be used to manufacture T2 goods etc.
Better ships destroyed, better Killmarks gotten.
Killmarks could be traded on Market.
Best incentive to PVP is rewards, not some stat on a killboard, which is ok, but not enough.
Even a humble miner like myself would then fit Torpedo launchers on the mighty Hulk...............well, maybe.
Edit. As octahexx posted, have them painted on your shiphulls too.
Different symbols for lots of kills, so a red skull could mean a hundred kills (so that you don't have 100s of KMs all over your ship hehe.)
And you could get special medals to stick on your avatar, just like in the army and stuff.
go play WoW |
Peter Raptor
Plutonian Army
171
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Posted - 2012.05.23 11:46:00 -
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Tobiaz wrote:Peter Raptor wrote:Ohanka wrote:I don't like it. You dont want more rewards to PVP? Not some weird arbitrary ones, thank you very much. Edit: oh and by the way there IS a mechanic that does this already, only better: FW kills now get you LP which you can then spend in LP Stores for stuff, some of it needed to make other stuff. Only in FW it actually makes sense (NPC Factions propping up their militias)
Yeah but thats only for hard core pvp characters who wanna fight constantly in all of Eve. FW LP points is a cool idea, though for more casual non-FW players, it'd be good to get something like LP rewards or uhmmm..... Killmarks 
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Bucky O'Hair
Minmatar Ship Construction Services
Ushra'Khan
51
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Posted - 2012.05.23 11:48:00 -
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The incentive to PVP is, well the PVP
if you haven't done it, you just wont understand.
We Are Ushra'Khan!
We are coming for our people. |
Rrama Ratamnim
Phoenix Evolved Part Duo
27
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Posted - 2012.05.23 12:02:00 -
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Dont know about you but i salvage the people i kill and get pretty good blu3 l00t |
Jess Maine
Valor Inc.
Nulli Secunda
2
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Posted - 2012.05.23 12:11:00 -
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Simple solution to this if this isn't a troll, whatever corp or alliance your in tell them to pull a finger out and organise a killer of the week competition on a regular basis; top killer earns imaignairy "Killmarks" you can exchange for goods on a list. Done. |
TheBlueMonkey
Natural Progression
Hedonistic Imperative
168
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Posted - 2012.05.23 13:05:00 -
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PvP is the reward for PvP, that or... you know... it's fun. |
Dradius Calvantia
Creative Cookie Procuring
Veto Corp
267
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Posted - 2012.05.23 13:28:00 -
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Honestly although this is a terrible suggestion and would do nothing for PVP, it does touch on one of the underlying problems with EVE ATM. The incentive to blow someone else's ship up should come from the motivation for profit. Projecting force to destroy competitions supply lines or industrial capability, securing resources for your corp, defending your own infrastructure are all good reason to engage in combat with others in space.
These motivators currently only really hold true for tech moons and sov space timers. Ratting, plexing, mining, manufacturing, and even transport can all be done with zero threat from hostile forces by anyone who understands the game mechanics. Until that changes, PVP (and especially small gang PVP) will continue trending towards a meaningless side activity done with expendable income for no reason other than fun.
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Mallak Azaria
xX-Crusader-Xx
Luna Sanguinem
85
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Posted - 2012.05.23 13:31:00 -
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Schmata Bastanold wrote:Getting fights and kills is reward
And the loot.
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Shukuzen Kiraa
47-Ronin
Outer Ring Excavations Syndicate
134
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Posted - 2012.05.23 13:40:00 -
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Gibbo3771 wrote:Peter Raptor wrote:At the moment theres hardly any incentive to PVP when you can loose hundreds of millions of isk worth of ships and modules and the only thing you get if you do win is.........a place on some obscure killboard.
We should have Killmarks! ( I got this name from that silly game Air Rivals)
When you kill a ship you get a Killmark which could be used to manufacture T2 goods etc.
Better ships destroyed, better Killmarks gotten.
Killmarks could be traded on Market.
Best incentive to PVP is rewards, not some stat on a killboard, which is ok, but not enough.
Even a humble miner like myself would then fit Torpedo launchers on the mighty Hulk...............well, maybe. Mining carebear suggests a way to improve pvp yet has never even done it.
Can't take any of your posts seriously when you have that ridiculous looking thing on your face. |
Remistor Callaway
Talos Enterprises
11
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Posted - 2012.05.23 13:53:00 -
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When you kill a ship you get a Killmark which could be used to manufacture T2 goods etc.
Already in place, called loot and salvage.
And you could get special medals to stick on your avatar, just like in the army and stuff.
already in place in FW.
Final answer: No |
AFK Hauler
State War Academy
Caldari State
100
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Posted - 2012.05.23 14:02:00 -
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Congrats.. you do.
They are called LP from the FW store...
You can use them to purchase ships or - Datacores, which can be used to make T2 items.
Congrats, you win. You got something you asked for in this expansion.
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masternerdguy
Inner Shadow
NightSong Directorate
558
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Posted - 2012.05.23 14:37:00 -
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Because killboards are so obscure
Things are only impossible until they are not. |
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