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Loka
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Posted - 2004.09.29 09:22:00 -
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Imo CCP should remove <sized> bonus and grant the shipbonus to the kind of weapons its designed. I mean, Caldariships have bonus on each missile not only torps or cruise missiles. Thats very unfair isnt it. _____________________________________ Dead or Alive
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Loka
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Posted - 2004.09.29 09:22:00 -
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Imo CCP should remove <sized> bonus and grant the shipbonus to the kind of weapons its designed. I mean, Caldariships have bonus on each missile not only torps or cruise missiles. Thats very unfair isnt it. _____________________________________ Dead or Alive
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Amira
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Posted - 2004.09.29 13:30:00 -
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Originally by: Loka Imo CCP should remove <sized> bonus and grant the shipbonus to the kind of weapons its designed. I mean, Caldariships have bonus on each missile not only torps or cruise missiles. Thats very unfair isnt it.
Amen. Ship bonus should be for a weapon's race, not specific size. This would fix a lot of whining about how hard it is to defend against frigates, as well as make it even more appealing for pilots to use their racial weapons, which is something I think makes the game much more immersive, RP wise. ----------------------------------------------- "The Spartans ask not how many, but where they are." -Agis II of Sparta
'Valor is the contempt of death and pain.' -Tacitus |

Amira
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Posted - 2004.09.29 13:30:00 -
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Originally by: Loka Imo CCP should remove <sized> bonus and grant the shipbonus to the kind of weapons its designed. I mean, Caldariships have bonus on each missile not only torps or cruise missiles. Thats very unfair isnt it.
Amen. Ship bonus should be for a weapon's race, not specific size. This would fix a lot of whining about how hard it is to defend against frigates, as well as make it even more appealing for pilots to use their racial weapons, which is something I think makes the game much more immersive, RP wise. ----------------------------------------------- "The Spartans ask not how many, but where they are." -Agis II of Sparta
'Valor is the contempt of death and pain.' -Tacitus |

flummox
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Posted - 2004.09.29 14:10:00 -
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Originally by: Van Halen
Quote: The 4 Named 250mm Railguns Which I use Pull a regular damage of 400 plus!
sure and my velator can walk tight rope and sing eye of the tiger while making a cake.
are you sure it can't play "Atomic Punk" ?
there is a fine, but dissasterous line between a fart and a shart. i suggest you make sure which side you want to be on... |

flummox
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Posted - 2004.09.29 14:10:00 -
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Originally by: Van Halen
Quote: The 4 Named 250mm Railguns Which I use Pull a regular damage of 400 plus!
sure and my velator can walk tight rope and sing eye of the tiger while making a cake.
are you sure it can't play "Atomic Punk" ?
there is a fine, but dissasterous line between a fart and a shart. i suggest you make sure which side you want to be on... |

deathbyfire
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Posted - 2004.09.29 19:05:00 -
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Edited by: deathbyfire on 29/09/2004 19:15:08 accualy you can hit for over 400 damage with 250s i have a wreakig for 450 with a carbide...... but rails suck. a named ion can hit harder than that.
a blasterrax can kill a blackbird in under 30 seconds the only crusier a blasterrax is scared of is a caracel 50km away now that same caracel 20km away well that a different story.
oh an van halen if you would please remove that hit from your sig it is a horably weak hit and it is a imbarisment to the neutron -------------------------------
Evolve and adapt or die. The choice is yours to make and no one elses. "Your current safe bounries were once unsafe frontiers"-unknown "Stupid people, can't live with them, and can't kill them because there would only be 1000 people left to play eve."-Me :D |

deathbyfire
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Posted - 2004.09.29 19:05:00 -
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Edited by: deathbyfire on 29/09/2004 19:15:08 accualy you can hit for over 400 damage with 250s i have a wreakig for 450 with a carbide...... but rails suck. a named ion can hit harder than that.
a blasterrax can kill a blackbird in under 30 seconds the only crusier a blasterrax is scared of is a caracel 50km away now that same caracel 20km away well that a different story.
oh an van halen if you would please remove that hit from your sig it is a horably weak hit and it is a imbarisment to the neutron -------------------------------
Evolve and adapt or die. The choice is yours to make and no one elses. "Your current safe bounries were once unsafe frontiers"-unknown "Stupid people, can't live with them, and can't kill them because there would only be 1000 people left to play eve."-Me :D |

Jozef Meurtrier
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Posted - 2004.09.29 19:17:00 -
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Originally by: deathbyfire oh an van halen if you would please remove that hit from your sig it is a horably weak hit and it is a imbarisment to the neutron
Actually its a PvP wrecker, which means that before resists it was allot more than that.Too often do I see people ingame and on the forums bragging about their '1337 uber skillz' wrecking shots on NPC frigates or secure containers. 
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Jozef Meurtrier
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Posted - 2004.09.29 19:17:00 -
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Originally by: deathbyfire oh an van halen if you would please remove that hit from your sig it is a horably weak hit and it is a imbarisment to the neutron
Actually its a PvP wrecker, which means that before resists it was allot more than that.Too often do I see people ingame and on the forums bragging about their '1337 uber skillz' wrecking shots on NPC frigates or secure containers. 
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Van Halen
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Posted - 2004.09.30 00:21:00 -
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and it was against a maller ;P
2004.09.10 01:59:13 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Heavy Neutron Blaster I perfectly strikes Ater Draconis [MYT], wrecking for 361.2 damage. |

Van Halen
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Posted - 2004.09.30 00:21:00 -
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and it was against a maller ;P
2004.09.10 01:59:13 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Heavy Neutron Blaster I perfectly strikes Ater Draconis [MYT], wrecking for 361.2 damage. |

Meridius
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Posted - 2004.09.30 01:20:00 -
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Originally by: Harry Voyager I've seen a Crusader doing 150 damage a hit, with wreaking shots of 300, using Medium Pulse lasers
Why do people enjoy making up numbers so much?
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Meridius
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Posted - 2004.09.30 01:20:00 -
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Originally by: Harry Voyager I've seen a Crusader doing 150 damage a hit, with wreaking shots of 300, using Medium Pulse lasers
Why do people enjoy making up numbers so much?
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Fred0
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Posted - 2004.09.30 02:46:00 -
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One of the more common rax setups nowadays seems to be the 200mm rail one.
I think the hardest thing with the rax is to decide between damage and tankability. One more low slot would make life soo much easier 
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Fred0
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Posted - 2004.09.30 02:46:00 -
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One of the more common rax setups nowadays seems to be the 200mm rail one.
I think the hardest thing with the rax is to decide between damage and tankability. One more low slot would make life soo much easier 
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Nybbas
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Posted - 2004.09.30 03:42:00 -
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have you seen the elite thorax? : P
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Nybbas
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Posted - 2004.09.30 03:42:00 -
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have you seen the elite thorax? : P
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Directive
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Posted - 2004.09.30 05:25:00 -
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Originally by: Nybbas have you seen the elite thorax? : P
I bet turtlehead will fit that with rails too 
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Directive
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Posted - 2004.09.30 05:25:00 -
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Originally by: Nybbas have you seen the elite thorax? : P
I bet turtlehead will fit that with rails too 
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deathbyfire
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Posted - 2004.09.30 06:15:00 -
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Originally by: Jozef Meurtrier
Originally by: deathbyfire oh an van halen if you would please remove that hit from your sig it is a horably weak hit and it is a imbarisment to the neutron
Actually its a PvP wrecker, which means that before resists it was allot more than that.Too often do I see people ingame and on the forums bragging about their '1337 uber skillz' wrecking shots on NPC frigates or secure containers. 
yes i know but liek i said i have hit with a ion for higher than that on a ship that had 2 kenetic adn 2 thermal hardeners. we were board and felt liek shooting somethign so we wanted to see if my rax adn a taranis coudl over power a armor tank setup for hybrids. lets jsut say i had to stop fireing i averaged over 100 with a 250 and 350-360 or so need to check my logs again. so like i said it is a horrible hit  -------------------------------
Evolve and adapt or die. The choice is yours to make and no one elses. "Your current safe bounries were once unsafe frontiers"-unknown "Stupid people, can't live with them, and can't kill them because there would only be 1000 people left to play eve."-Me :D |

deathbyfire
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Posted - 2004.09.30 06:15:00 -
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Originally by: Jozef Meurtrier
Originally by: deathbyfire oh an van halen if you would please remove that hit from your sig it is a horably weak hit and it is a imbarisment to the neutron
Actually its a PvP wrecker, which means that before resists it was allot more than that.Too often do I see people ingame and on the forums bragging about their '1337 uber skillz' wrecking shots on NPC frigates or secure containers. 
yes i know but liek i said i have hit with a ion for higher than that on a ship that had 2 kenetic adn 2 thermal hardeners. we were board and felt liek shooting somethign so we wanted to see if my rax adn a taranis coudl over power a armor tank setup for hybrids. lets jsut say i had to stop fireing i averaged over 100 with a 250 and 350-360 or so need to check my logs again. so like i said it is a horrible hit  -------------------------------
Evolve and adapt or die. The choice is yours to make and no one elses. "Your current safe bounries were once unsafe frontiers"-unknown "Stupid people, can't live with them, and can't kill them because there would only be 1000 people left to play eve."-Me :D |

TuRtLe HeAd
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Posted - 2004.10.01 06:45:00 -
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SHADOWSWORD.
You don't have to believe me! But it happens regularly And Yes I do have crap skills about 11 million skillpoints of them, o, sorry there I go again exagerating again, I suppose your going to slate me again for that now! Get a Life and a sense of Humour and when you've done that Grow up, You might find that people will start to like you !
I Think I get those good hits regulalry because I have Medium hybrid turret level 5 Gallent Cruiser 5 Surgical strike 5.
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TuRtLe HeAd
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Posted - 2004.10.01 06:45:00 -
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SHADOWSWORD.
You don't have to believe me! But it happens regularly And Yes I do have crap skills about 11 million skillpoints of them, o, sorry there I go again exagerating again, I suppose your going to slate me again for that now! Get a Life and a sense of Humour and when you've done that Grow up, You might find that people will start to like you !
I Think I get those good hits regulalry because I have Medium hybrid turret level 5 Gallent Cruiser 5 Surgical strike 5.
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TuRtLe HeAd
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Posted - 2004.10.01 06:48:00 -
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And I probably will fit it with rails too! Won't take one of those elite cruisers anywhere near a battle, Bad enough losing a battleship It will be even more expensive to lose a battlecruiser.
I'll just stick to my pod warfare (YES WITH RAILGUNS) and (Air/con)
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TuRtLe HeAd
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Posted - 2004.10.01 06:48:00 -
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And I probably will fit it with rails too! Won't take one of those elite cruisers anywhere near a battle, Bad enough losing a battleship It will be even more expensive to lose a battlecruiser.
I'll just stick to my pod warfare (YES WITH RAILGUNS) and (Air/con)
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Shadowsword
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Posted - 2004.10.01 08:05:00 -
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"Get a Life and a sense of Humour and when you've done that Grow up, You might find that people will start to like you !"
You might want ot apply your own advice, then. Calling Blaster-based setups "pathetic" doesn't help your credibility, and if you think my reply was a little agressive (well, it was), it's a taste of your own medicine.
I know from experience that a railrax setup can be very damaging. I used, on both a thorax and a Moa, a full set of 250mm compressed guns with 2 vortex, and my relevant gunnery skills are at lv4. Taking into account your small edge on skills, and with AM ammos, I think you CAN hit for more than 400, IF you hit structure AND/OR get wrecking hits. MAYBE you can do it with excellent hits, too, but that's in no way what I'd call "regular damage".
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Shadowsword
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Posted - 2004.10.01 08:05:00 -
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"Get a Life and a sense of Humour and when you've done that Grow up, You might find that people will start to like you !"
You might want ot apply your own advice, then. Calling Blaster-based setups "pathetic" doesn't help your credibility, and if you think my reply was a little agressive (well, it was), it's a taste of your own medicine.
I know from experience that a railrax setup can be very damaging. I used, on both a thorax and a Moa, a full set of 250mm compressed guns with 2 vortex, and my relevant gunnery skills are at lv4. Taking into account your small edge on skills, and with AM ammos, I think you CAN hit for more than 400, IF you hit structure AND/OR get wrecking hits. MAYBE you can do it with excellent hits, too, but that's in no way what I'd call "regular damage".
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Drasked
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Posted - 2004.10.01 09:41:00 -
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Blasterrax isnt only about the damage, but about the ability to do damage over a longer period of time. ---
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Drasked
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Posted - 2004.10.01 09:41:00 -
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Blasterrax isnt only about the damage, but about the ability to do damage over a longer period of time. ---
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