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TuRtLe HeAd
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Posted - 2004.09.28 22:45:00 -
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I have a Thorax ( amoung millions of other ships) And I just can't be bothered to use these pathetic Blasterax setups.
The 4 Named 250mm Railguns Which I use Pull a regular damage of 400 plus! Which is super satisfying. Coupled with a 2 Magnetic Vortex stabilizers and cap rechargers The setup is amazing ! But then who am I to talk I am just a nOOb !
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TuRtLe HeAd
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Posted - 2004.09.28 22:45:00 -
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I have a Thorax ( amoung millions of other ships) And I just can't be bothered to use these pathetic Blasterax setups.
The 4 Named 250mm Railguns Which I use Pull a regular damage of 400 plus! Which is super satisfying. Coupled with a 2 Magnetic Vortex stabilizers and cap rechargers The setup is amazing ! But then who am I to talk I am just a nOOb !
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Lurk
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Posted - 2004.09.28 23:06:00 -
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Edited by: Lurk on 28/09/2004 23:07:43
The blasterax is the most damaging setup there is for the thorax, i'd even say the most damaging setup possible on a cruiser.
However, it's the most dangerous setup, too :P
Edit: A blasterax would wtfpwn your railrax.
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Lurk
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Posted - 2004.09.28 23:06:00 -
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Edited by: Lurk on 28/09/2004 23:07:43
The blasterax is the most damaging setup there is for the thorax, i'd even say the most damaging setup possible on a cruiser.
However, it's the most dangerous setup, too :P
Edit: A blasterax would wtfpwn your railrax.
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Rizmordan Hillgotlieb
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Posted - 2004.09.28 23:34:00 -
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TuRtLe HeAd - I'd be glad to meet your Railrax 1vs1 w/ my Blasterax if you'd like - send me an evemail and we'll set it up somewhere.
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Rizmordan Hillgotlieb
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Posted - 2004.09.28 23:34:00 -
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TuRtLe HeAd - I'd be glad to meet your Railrax 1vs1 w/ my Blasterax if you'd like - send me an evemail and we'll set it up somewhere.
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Idara
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Posted - 2004.09.29 00:02:00 -
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Just mount some Nossy's on the opposing ship and watch the Blasterrax stutter and stop from the huge problems with it's capacitor.
Been there, tried that, I'll stay away thanks.
Idara
Section Leader - Security & Warfare
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Idara
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Posted - 2004.09.29 00:02:00 -
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Just mount some Nossy's on the opposing ship and watch the Blasterrax stutter and stop from the huge problems with it's capacitor.
Been there, tried that, I'll stay away thanks.
Idara
Section Leader - Security & Warfare
Member of Metatron Incorporated |
Nerhtal Al'Thali
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Posted - 2004.09.29 00:36:00 -
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My velator is better then your kettle so there!
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Nerhtal Al'Thali
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Posted - 2004.09.29 00:36:00 -
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My velator is better then your kettle so there!
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Oveur
"First in, last out"
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Rizmordan Hillgotlieb
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Posted - 2004.09.29 00:39:00 -
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My Ibis is better than your Velator!    
Posting for Numbnutz |
Rizmordan Hillgotlieb
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Posted - 2004.09.29 00:39:00 -
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My Ibis is better than your Velator!
Posting for Numbnutz |
Van Halen
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Posted - 2004.09.29 00:39:00 -
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 Quote:
The 4 Named 250mm Railguns Which I use Pull a regular damage of 400 plus!
sure and my velator can walk tight rope and sing eye of the tiger while making a cake.
2004.09.10 01:59:13 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Heavy Neutron Blaster I perfectly strikes Ater Draconis [MYT], wrecking for 361.2 damage. |
Van Halen
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Posted - 2004.09.29 00:39:00 -
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Quote:
The 4 Named 250mm Railguns Which I use Pull a regular damage of 400 plus!
sure and my velator can walk tight rope and sing eye of the tiger while making a cake.
2004.09.10 01:59:13 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Heavy Neutron Blaster I perfectly strikes Ater Draconis [MYT], wrecking for 361.2 damage. |
Harry Voyager
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Posted - 2004.09.29 03:33:00 -
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I've seen a Crusader doing 150 damage a hit, with wreaking shots of 300, using Medium Pulse lasers, so I don't have a hard time believeing a named 250mm rail with the proper skill and equipement backing it can easily deal 400+ hits.
Harry Voyager
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Harry Voyager
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Posted - 2004.09.29 03:33:00 -
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I've seen a Crusader doing 150 damage a hit, with wreaking shots of 300, using Medium Pulse lasers, so I don't have a hard time believeing a named 250mm rail with the proper skill and equipement backing it can easily deal 400+ hits.
Harry Voyager
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Hanse Davion
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Posted - 2004.09.29 05:22:00 -
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Maybe I'm wrong and hopefully the poster will clear this up. I believe he is doing 400pts across the 4 Rails which = 100 per rail.
I have seen that type of damage with 250mm Prototypes and Scouts, with AntiMatter, but not on a regular basis. But hey I only have Med Hybrid 4 and Surgical Strike 3 so maybe he has better skills then me.
2005.01.21 05:09:06combatYour Tachyon Beam Laser I perfectly strikes Blood Priest, wrecking for 533.1 damage. |
Hanse Davion
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Posted - 2004.09.29 05:22:00 -
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Maybe I'm wrong and hopefully the poster will clear this up. I believe he is doing 400pts across the 4 Rails which = 100 per rail.
I have seen that type of damage with 250mm Prototypes and Scouts, with AntiMatter, but not on a regular basis. But hey I only have Med Hybrid 4 and Surgical Strike 3 so maybe he has better skills then me.
2005.01.21 05:09:06combatYour Tachyon Beam Laser I perfectly strikes Blood Priest, wrecking for 533.1 damage. |
Shadowsword
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Posted - 2004.09.29 07:10:00 -
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Originally by: TuRtLe HeAd
I have a Thorax ( amoung millions of other ships)
I have one, too.
Your "millions of other ships" are shuttles?
Originally by: TuRtLe HeAd
And I just can't be bothered to use these pathetic Blasterax setups.
Have a care how you speak of a setup who just do as much damage without damage mods than your rails with two vortex!
Originally by: TuRtLe HeAd
The 4 Named 250mm Railguns Which I use Pull a regular damage of 400 plus!
Either you made a typo and meant 40 (which would mean you have bad skills), either you're just a pathetic liar. Looking at your post as a whole, I think it's the second.
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Shadowsword
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Posted - 2004.09.29 07:10:00 -
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Originally by: TuRtLe HeAd
I have a Thorax ( amoung millions of other ships)
I have one, too.
Your "millions of other ships" are shuttles?
Originally by: TuRtLe HeAd
And I just can't be bothered to use these pathetic Blasterax setups.
Have a care how you speak of a setup who just do as much damage without damage mods than your rails with two vortex!
Originally by: TuRtLe HeAd
The 4 Named 250mm Railguns Which I use Pull a regular damage of 400 plus!
Either you made a typo and meant 40 (which would mean you have bad skills), either you're just a pathetic liar. Looking at your post as a whole, I think it's the second.
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Loka
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Posted - 2004.09.29 08:05:00 -
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Edited by: Loka on 29/09/2004 08:07:00
tbh i use heavy pulse on my Thorac  blame me, but they work much better against frigates, than Blasters or Rails. And Cruisers are frigatkiller, when in small groups or alone, not BS killer. 
Also small blaster perform much better than medium sized blaster -> no thorax bonus, what a shame.
But again iam a nub, and dont know jack about EVE.
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Loka
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Posted - 2004.09.29 08:05:00 -
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Edited by: Loka on 29/09/2004 08:07:00
tbh i use heavy pulse on my Thorac blame me, but they work much better against frigates, than Blasters or Rails. And Cruisers are frigatkiller, when in small groups or alone, not BS killer.
Also small blaster perform much better than medium sized blaster -> no thorax bonus, what a shame.
But again iam a nub, and dont know jack about EVE.
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Grut
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Posted - 2004.09.29 08:13:00 -
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Originally by: Loka
Edited by: Loka on 29/09/2004 08:07:00
tbh i use heavy pulse on my Thorac blame me, but they work much better against frigates, than Blasters or Rails. And Cruisers are frigatkiller, when in small groups or alone, not BS killer.
Also small blaster perform much better than medium sized blaster -> no thorax bonus, what a shame.
But again iam a nub, and dont know jack about EVE.
Yeap kindof sad small blasterax >> blasterax small railrax >> railrax
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Grut
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Posted - 2004.09.29 08:13:00 -
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Originally by: Loka
Edited by: Loka on 29/09/2004 08:07:00
tbh i use heavy pulse on my Thorac blame me, but they work much better against frigates, than Blasters or Rails. And Cruisers are frigatkiller, when in small groups or alone, not BS killer.
Also small blaster perform much better than medium sized blaster -> no thorax bonus, what a shame.
But again iam a nub, and dont know jack about EVE.
Yeap kindof sad small blasterax >> blasterax small railrax >> railrax
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slothe
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Posted - 2004.09.29 08:14:00 -
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Edited by: slothe on 29/09/2004 08:15:27
My blasternosorax rules blasterax and railerax 
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slothe
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Posted - 2004.09.29 08:14:00 -
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Edited by: slothe on 29/09/2004 08:15:27
My blasternosorax rules blasterax and railerax
Say hello on our forum @www.aserea.com
or join our public channel ingame "MLM Public"
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Rizmordan Hillgotlieb
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Posted - 2004.09.29 08:53:00 -
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Originally by: Idara
Just mount some Nossy's on the opposing ship and watch the Blasterrax stutter and stop from the huge problems with it's capacitor.
Been there, tried that, I'll stay away thanks.
I can see and appreciate your point. However we have different perspectives. I have 6 more months of skill training and I know from testing that I am able to handle a few drainer mods before things get dangerous.
This is the reason I do not see nosferatu combo as a problem. It is the sheer amount of dmg output over a short amount of time. With the blasterax I usually startle most opponents. If they are able to escape they will tend to run rather than stay and fight.
To solidify my point - With my current setup each of my 5 small blasters has a 6.11 dmg mod and fires every 2.5 secs. So you can see it wouldn't take long to strip away the 800-1200 points of shields and then a similar layer of armor off another cruiser in under 30 seconds. The nosferatus drain a few points per module every 3 seconds which my cap relays fight hard against.
There is no possible way a nosferatu setup could drain a blasterax (especially a skilled rax pilot) before a potentially deadly amount of damage was dealt by the rax.
My opponent on the otherhand will be gimped in dmg output. Because of the drainers they will have only 2 to 3 hi-slots reserved for guns/missles and whatever drones. In my "30 seconds of life" scenario my opponent will more than likely be able to get through my shields and damage my armor but since it's quite a bit thicker than your standard cruiser armor it would take more time than would be available.
In a worst case scenario my cap drained, blasters and mods would be triggered off. My 8 heavy drones would still fight on, ravaging an already heavily damaged opponent. If they are unable to flee will dock in a pod.
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Rizmordan Hillgotlieb
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Posted - 2004.09.29 08:53:00 -
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Originally by: Idara
Just mount some Nossy's on the opposing ship and watch the Blasterrax stutter and stop from the huge problems with it's capacitor.
Been there, tried that, I'll stay away thanks.
I can see and appreciate your point. However we have different perspectives. I have 6 more months of skill training and I know from testing that I am able to handle a few drainer mods before things get dangerous.
This is the reason I do not see nosferatu combo as a problem. It is the sheer amount of dmg output over a short amount of time. With the blasterax I usually startle most opponents. If they are able to escape they will tend to run rather than stay and fight.
To solidify my point - With my current setup each of my 5 small blasters has a 6.11 dmg mod and fires every 2.5 secs. So you can see it wouldn't take long to strip away the 800-1200 points of shields and then a similar layer of armor off another cruiser in under 30 seconds. The nosferatus drain a few points per module every 3 seconds which my cap relays fight hard against.
There is no possible way a nosferatu setup could drain a blasterax (especially a skilled rax pilot) before a potentially deadly amount of damage was dealt by the rax.
My opponent on the otherhand will be gimped in dmg output. Because of the drainers they will have only 2 to 3 hi-slots reserved for guns/missles and whatever drones. In my "30 seconds of life" scenario my opponent will more than likely be able to get through my shields and damage my armor but since it's quite a bit thicker than your standard cruiser armor it would take more time than would be available.
In a worst case scenario my cap drained, blasters and mods would be triggered off. My 8 heavy drones would still fight on, ravaging an already heavily damaged opponent. If they are unable to flee will dock in a pod.
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fairimear
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Posted - 2004.09.29 09:08:00 -
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my taranis would wtfpwn ur railrax.
but it would be pwnd by a blasterax.
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fairimear
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Posted - 2004.09.29 09:08:00 -
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my taranis would wtfpwn ur railrax.
but it would be pwnd by a blasterax.
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Loka
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Posted - 2004.09.29 09:22:00 -
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Imo CCP should remove <sized> bonus and grant the shipbonus to the kind of weapons its designed. I mean, Caldariships have bonus on each missile not only torps or cruise missiles. Thats very unfair isnt it.
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Loka
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Posted - 2004.09.29 09:22:00 -
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Imo CCP should remove <sized> bonus and grant the shipbonus to the kind of weapons its designed. I mean, Caldariships have bonus on each missile not only torps or cruise missiles. Thats very unfair isnt it.
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Amira
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Posted - 2004.09.29 13:30:00 -
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Originally by: Loka
Imo CCP should remove <sized> bonus and grant the shipbonus to the kind of weapons its designed. I mean, Caldariships have bonus on each missile not only torps or cruise missiles. Thats very unfair isnt it.
Amen. Ship bonus should be for a weapon's race, not specific size. This would fix a lot of whining about how hard it is to defend against frigates, as well as make it even more appealing for pilots to use their racial weapons, which is something I think makes the game much more immersive, RP wise.
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Amira
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Posted - 2004.09.29 13:30:00 -
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Originally by: Loka
Imo CCP should remove <sized> bonus and grant the shipbonus to the kind of weapons its designed. I mean, Caldariships have bonus on each missile not only torps or cruise missiles. Thats very unfair isnt it.
Amen. Ship bonus should be for a weapon's race, not specific size. This would fix a lot of whining about how hard it is to defend against frigates, as well as make it even more appealing for pilots to use their racial weapons, which is something I think makes the game much more immersive, RP wise.
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flummox
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Posted - 2004.09.29 14:10:00 -
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Originally by: Van Halen
Quote:
The 4 Named 250mm Railguns Which I use Pull a regular damage of 400 plus!
sure and my velator can walk tight rope and sing eye of the tiger while making a cake.
are you sure it can't play "Atomic Punk" ?
there is a fine, but dissasterous line between a fart and a shart. i suggest you make sure which side you want to be on... |
flummox
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Posted - 2004.09.29 14:10:00 -
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Originally by: Van Halen
Quote:
The 4 Named 250mm Railguns Which I use Pull a regular damage of 400 plus!
sure and my velator can walk tight rope and sing eye of the tiger while making a cake.
are you sure it can't play "Atomic Punk" ?
there is a fine, but dissasterous line between a fart and a shart. i suggest you make sure which side you want to be on... |
deathbyfire
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Posted - 2004.09.29 19:05:00 -
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Edited by: deathbyfire on 29/09/2004 19:15:08
accualy you can hit for over 400 damage with 250s i have a wreakig for 450 with a carbide...... but rails suck. a named ion can hit harder than that.
a blasterrax can kill a blackbird in under 30 seconds the only crusier a blasterrax is scared of is a caracel 50km away now that same caracel 20km away well that a different story.
oh an van halen if you would please remove that hit from your sig it is a horably weak hit and it is a imbarisment to the neutron
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deathbyfire
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Posted - 2004.09.29 19:05:00 -
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Edited by: deathbyfire on 29/09/2004 19:15:08
accualy you can hit for over 400 damage with 250s i have a wreakig for 450 with a carbide...... but rails suck. a named ion can hit harder than that.
a blasterrax can kill a blackbird in under 30 seconds the only crusier a blasterrax is scared of is a caracel 50km away now that same caracel 20km away well that a different story.
oh an van halen if you would please remove that hit from your sig it is a horably weak hit and it is a imbarisment to the neutron
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Evolve and adapt or die.
The choice is yours to make and no one elses.
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"Stupid people, can't live with them, and can't kill them because there would only be 1000 people left to play eve."-Me :D |
Jozef Meurtrier
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Posted - 2004.09.29 19:17:00 -
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Originally by: deathbyfire
oh an van halen if you would please remove that hit from your sig it is a horably weak hit and it is a imbarisment to the neutron
Actually its a PvP wrecker, which means that before resists it was allot more than that.Too often do I see people ingame and on the forums bragging about their '1337 uber skillz' wrecking shots on NPC frigates or secure containers. 
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Jozef Meurtrier
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Posted - 2004.09.29 19:17:00 -
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Originally by: deathbyfire
oh an van halen if you would please remove that hit from your sig it is a horably weak hit and it is a imbarisment to the neutron
Actually its a PvP wrecker, which means that before resists it was allot more than that.Too often do I see people ingame and on the forums bragging about their '1337 uber skillz' wrecking shots on NPC frigates or secure containers.
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Van Halen
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Posted - 2004.09.30 00:21:00 -
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and it was against a maller ;P
2004.09.10 01:59:13 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Heavy Neutron Blaster I perfectly strikes Ater Draconis [MYT], wrecking for 361.2 damage. |
Van Halen
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Posted - 2004.09.30 00:21:00 -
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and it was against a maller ;P
2004.09.10 01:59:13 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Heavy Neutron Blaster I perfectly strikes Ater Draconis [MYT], wrecking for 361.2 damage. |
Meridius
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Posted - 2004.09.30 01:20:00 -
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Originally by: Harry Voyager
I've seen a Crusader doing 150 damage a hit, with wreaking shots of 300, using Medium Pulse lasers
Why do people enjoy making up numbers so much?
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Meridius
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Posted - 2004.09.30 01:20:00 -
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Originally by: Harry Voyager
I've seen a Crusader doing 150 damage a hit, with wreaking shots of 300, using Medium Pulse lasers
Why do people enjoy making up numbers so much?
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Fred0
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Posted - 2004.09.30 02:46:00 -
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One of the more common rax setups nowadays seems to be the 200mm rail one.
I think the hardest thing with the rax is to decide between damage and tankability. One more low slot would make life soo much easier 
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Fred0
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Posted - 2004.09.30 02:46:00 -
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One of the more common rax setups nowadays seems to be the 200mm rail one.
I think the hardest thing with the rax is to decide between damage and tankability. One more low slot would make life soo much easier
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Nybbas
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Posted - 2004.09.30 03:42:00 -
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have you seen the elite thorax? : P
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Nybbas
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Posted - 2004.09.30 03:42:00 -
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have you seen the elite thorax? : P
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Directive
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Posted - 2004.09.30 05:25:00 -
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Originally by: Nybbas
have you seen the elite thorax? : P
I bet turtlehead will fit that with rails too
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Directive
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Posted - 2004.09.30 05:25:00 -
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Originally by: Nybbas
have you seen the elite thorax? : P
I bet turtlehead will fit that with rails too
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deathbyfire
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Posted - 2004.09.30 06:15:00 -
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Originally by: Jozef Meurtrier
Originally by: deathbyfire
oh an van halen if you would please remove that hit from your sig it is a horably weak hit and it is a imbarisment to the neutron
Actually its a PvP wrecker, which means that before resists it was allot more than that.Too often do I see people ingame and on the forums bragging about their '1337 uber skillz' wrecking shots on NPC frigates or secure containers.
yes i know but liek i said i have hit with a ion for higher than that on a ship that had 2 kenetic adn 2 thermal hardeners. we were board and felt liek shooting somethign so we wanted to see if my rax adn a taranis coudl over power a armor tank setup for hybrids. lets jsut say i had to stop fireing i averaged over 100 with a 250 and 350-360 or so need to check my logs again. so like i said it is a horrible hit 
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deathbyfire
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Posted - 2004.09.30 06:15:00 -
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Originally by: Jozef Meurtrier
Originally by: deathbyfire
oh an van halen if you would please remove that hit from your sig it is a horably weak hit and it is a imbarisment to the neutron
Actually its a PvP wrecker, which means that before resists it was allot more than that.Too often do I see people ingame and on the forums bragging about their '1337 uber skillz' wrecking shots on NPC frigates or secure containers.
yes i know but liek i said i have hit with a ion for higher than that on a ship that had 2 kenetic adn 2 thermal hardeners. we were board and felt liek shooting somethign so we wanted to see if my rax adn a taranis coudl over power a armor tank setup for hybrids. lets jsut say i had to stop fireing i averaged over 100 with a 250 and 350-360 or so need to check my logs again. so like i said it is a horrible hit
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Evolve and adapt or die.
The choice is yours to make and no one elses.
"Your current safe bounries were once unsafe frontiers"-unknown
"Stupid people, can't live with them, and can't kill them because there would only be 1000 people left to play eve."-Me :D |
TuRtLe HeAd
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Posted - 2004.10.01 06:45:00 -
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SHADOWSWORD.
You don't have to believe me!
But it happens regularly
And Yes I do have crap skills about 11 million skillpoints of them, o, sorry there I go again exagerating again, I suppose your going to slate me again for that now! Get a Life and a sense of Humour and when you've done that Grow up, You might find that people will start to like you !
I Think I get those good hits regulalry because I have Medium hybrid turret level 5 Gallent Cruiser 5 Surgical strike 5.
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TuRtLe HeAd
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Posted - 2004.10.01 06:45:00 -
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SHADOWSWORD.
You don't have to believe me!
But it happens regularly
And Yes I do have crap skills about 11 million skillpoints of them, o, sorry there I go again exagerating again, I suppose your going to slate me again for that now! Get a Life and a sense of Humour and when you've done that Grow up, You might find that people will start to like you !
I Think I get those good hits regulalry because I have Medium hybrid turret level 5 Gallent Cruiser 5 Surgical strike 5.
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TuRtLe HeAd
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Posted - 2004.10.01 06:48:00 -
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And I probably will fit it with rails too!
Won't take one of those elite cruisers anywhere near a battle, Bad enough losing a battleship It will be even more expensive to lose a battlecruiser.
I'll just stick to my pod warfare (YES WITH RAILGUNS)
and (Air/con)
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TuRtLe HeAd
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Posted - 2004.10.01 06:48:00 -
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And I probably will fit it with rails too!
Won't take one of those elite cruisers anywhere near a battle, Bad enough losing a battleship It will be even more expensive to lose a battlecruiser.
I'll just stick to my pod warfare (YES WITH RAILGUNS)
and (Air/con)
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Shadowsword
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Posted - 2004.10.01 08:05:00 -
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"Get a Life and a sense of Humour and when you've done that Grow up, You might find that people will start to like you !"
You might want ot apply your own advice, then. Calling Blaster-based setups "pathetic" doesn't help your credibility, and if you think my reply was a little agressive (well, it was), it's a taste of your own medicine.
I know from experience that a railrax setup can be very damaging. I used, on both a thorax and a Moa, a full set of 250mm compressed guns with 2 vortex, and my relevant gunnery skills are at lv4.
Taking into account your small edge on skills, and with AM ammos, I think you CAN hit for more than 400, IF you hit structure AND/OR get wrecking hits. MAYBE you can do it with excellent hits, too, but that's in no way what I'd call "regular damage".
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Shadowsword
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Posted - 2004.10.01 08:05:00 -
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"Get a Life and a sense of Humour and when you've done that Grow up, You might find that people will start to like you !"
You might want ot apply your own advice, then. Calling Blaster-based setups "pathetic" doesn't help your credibility, and if you think my reply was a little agressive (well, it was), it's a taste of your own medicine.
I know from experience that a railrax setup can be very damaging. I used, on both a thorax and a Moa, a full set of 250mm compressed guns with 2 vortex, and my relevant gunnery skills are at lv4.
Taking into account your small edge on skills, and with AM ammos, I think you CAN hit for more than 400, IF you hit structure AND/OR get wrecking hits. MAYBE you can do it with excellent hits, too, but that's in no way what I'd call "regular damage".
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Drasked
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Posted - 2004.10.01 09:41:00 -
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Blasterrax isnt only about the damage, but about the ability to do damage over a longer period of time.
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Drasked
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Posted - 2004.10.01 09:41:00 -
[60]
Blasterrax isnt only about the damage, but about the ability to do damage over a longer period of time.
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lash
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Posted - 2004.10.01 10:54:00 -
[61]
Originally by: Meridius
Originally by: Harry Voyager
I've seen a Crusader doing 150 damage a hit, with wreaking shots of 300, using Medium Pulse lasers
Why do people enjoy making up numbers so much?
I wish my crusader could pull that off
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lash
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Posted - 2004.10.01 10:54:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Meridius
Originally by: Harry Voyager
I've seen a Crusader doing 150 damage a hit, with wreaking shots of 300, using Medium Pulse lasers
Why do people enjoy making up numbers so much?
I wish my crusader could pull that off
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KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2004.10.01 12:32:00 -
[63]
I have a set of Anode Neutron cannons. Strapped to a thorax, they hit hard, v hard, but 400+ with 250 protos??? I am afraid I do not believe you.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=176347
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KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2004.10.01 12:32:00 -
[64]
I have a set of Anode Neutron cannons. Strapped to a thorax, they hit hard, v hard, but 400+ with 250 protos??? I am afraid I do not believe you.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=176347
www.kia-corp.co.uk/killboard
CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we i |
Nafri
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Posted - 2004.10.01 14:11:00 -
[65]
mhh i use 150er rails on my thorax, yeah the frig sized ones
killed BSs, Cruisers and frigs with no problems
only problem could be a taranis, but well, im faster than that damm taranis 
Wanna fly with me?
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.10.01 14:11:00 -
[66]
mhh i use 150er rails on my thorax, yeah the frig sized ones
killed BSs, Cruisers and frigs with no problems
only problem could be a taranis, but well, im faster than that damm taranis
Wanna fly with me?
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Dirtball
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Posted - 2004.10.01 14:18:00 -
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Edited by: Dirtball on 01/10/2004 14:23:05
Edited by: Dirtball on 01/10/2004 14:21:34
I got a 306 wrecking shot with a heavy ion blaster fitted on a thorax once. No damage mods, and antimatter, it was against structure though tbh.
Just face it the thorax is better than the megathron and the dominix
Edit: the incursus pwns too. I'm sure a taranis does as well, but I can't justify fighting with an interceptor when I'm so very suicidal in battle. Actually here's how it is, the incursus bonus makes light ion blasters kick butt, the thorax bonus makes heavy ion blasters kick butt, the megathrons bonus makes large ion blasters useable and nothing more.
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Dirtball
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Posted - 2004.10.01 14:18:00 -
[68]
Edited by: Dirtball on 01/10/2004 14:23:05
Edited by: Dirtball on 01/10/2004 14:21:34
I got a 306 wrecking shot with a heavy ion blaster fitted on a thorax once. No damage mods, and antimatter, it was against structure though tbh.
Just face it the thorax is better than the megathron and the dominix
Edit: the incursus pwns too. I'm sure a taranis does as well, but I can't justify fighting with an interceptor when I'm so very suicidal in battle. Actually here's how it is, the incursus bonus makes light ion blasters kick butt, the thorax bonus makes heavy ion blasters kick butt, the megathrons bonus makes large ion blasters useable and nothing more.
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Zatuko
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Posted - 2004.10.01 15:15:00 -
[69]
check out my sig for a med blaster sized hit on a rax!!!
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Th3 CHee5E......5T@Y 4w4y PHr0m +EH cH33S3!
[ 2004.09.12 00:37:04 ] (combat) Your Modal Light Neutron Particle Accelerator I perfectly strikes Sansha's Ravisher, wrecking for 226.6 damage.
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Zatuko
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Posted - 2004.10.01 15:15:00 -
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check out my sig for a med blaster sized hit on a rax!!!
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Th3 CHee5E......5T@Y 4w4y PHr0m +EH cH33S3!
[ 2004.09.12 00:37:04 ] (combat) Your Modal Light Neutron Particle Accelerator I perfectly strikes Sansha's Ravisher, wrecking for 226.6 damage.
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deathbyfire
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Posted - 2004.10.01 23:33:00 -
[71]
Edited by: deathbyfire on 01/10/2004 23:35:34
Originally by: Zatuko
check out my sig for a med blaster sized hit on a rax!!!
humm are you sure i don't see a med blaster hit on your sig
now if you didn't know Ion Blaster Cannon 1 are Large guns and 558.4 is a **** weaking form a Large blaster. and seeing as how the med guns are called Heavy Ion Blaster 1 all i have to say is nice try at making up logs.
Fyi this is what a real ion hit looks liek when copied from a captured log
[ 2004.09.23 06:49:25 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Anode Ion Particle Cannon I perfectly strikes Altai Saker [TX-I], wrecking for 547.9 damage.
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Evolve and adapt or die.
The choice is yours to make and no one elses.
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"Stupid people, can't live with them, and can't kill them because there would only be 1000 people left to play eve."-Me :D |
deathbyfire
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Posted - 2004.10.01 23:33:00 -
[72]
Edited by: deathbyfire on 01/10/2004 23:35:34
Originally by: Zatuko
check out my sig for a med blaster sized hit on a rax!!!
humm are you sure i don't see a med blaster hit on your sig
now if you didn't know Ion Blaster Cannon 1 are Large guns and 558.4 is a **** weaking form a Large blaster. and seeing as how the med guns are called Heavy Ion Blaster 1 all i have to say is nice try at making up logs.
Fyi this is what a real ion hit looks liek when copied from a captured log
[ 2004.09.23 06:49:25 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Anode Ion Particle Cannon I perfectly strikes Altai Saker [TX-I], wrecking for 547.9 damage.
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Evolve and adapt or die.
The choice is yours to make and no one elses.
"Your current safe bounries were once unsafe frontiers"-unknown
"Stupid people, can't live with them, and can't kill them because there would only be 1000 people left to play eve."-Me :D |
Koris
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Posted - 2004.10.02 00:25:00 -
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Edited by: Koris on 02/10/2004 00:40:21
Originally by: Lurk
Edit: A blasterax would wtfpwn your railrax.
WRONG, it's all about the pilot not the ship setup.
edit: ALL of you are wrong one setup is not better than the other it's all about how the pilot flies his ship and exposes the weakness of his enemy. This is most true with 2 ships of the sme type as a good pilot knows his ships limits. And I think the poster meant 400 DPS, not per gun which is easily possible with rails.
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Koris
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Posted - 2004.10.02 00:25:00 -
[74]
Edited by: Koris on 02/10/2004 00:40:21
Originally by: Lurk
Edit: A blasterax would wtfpwn your railrax.
WRONG, it's all about the pilot not the ship setup.
edit: ALL of you are wrong one setup is not better than the other it's all about how the pilot flies his ship and exposes the weakness of his enemy. This is most true with 2 ships of the sme type as a good pilot knows his ships limits. And I think the poster meant 400 DPS, not per gun which is easily possible with rails.
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Zatuko
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Posted - 2004.10.02 11:38:00 -
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your right, that must have been my large ion that i had on my dom before i lost it  .
/me goes to change my sig......
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Th3 CHee5E......5T@Y 4w4y PHr0m +EH cH33S3!
[ 2004.09.12 00:37:04 ] (combat) Your Modal Light Neutron Particle Accelerator I perfectly strikes Sansha's Ravisher, wrecking for 226.6 damage.
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Zatuko
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Posted - 2004.10.02 11:38:00 -
[76]
your right, that must have been my large ion that i had on my dom before i lost it .
/me goes to change my sig......
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Th3 CHee5E......5T@Y 4w4y PHr0m +EH cH33S3!
[ 2004.09.12 00:37:04 ] (combat) Your Modal Light Neutron Particle Accelerator I perfectly strikes Sansha's Ravisher, wrecking for 226.6 damage.
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akrotor
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Posted - 2004.10.05 01:16:00 -
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hmmmmmmmm i really really really think you are talking out your arse hera 400+ with 250s my m8 is a crusier specialist with lvl 5 gunery ect ect ect i cant be btoherd going into details but he hits a 300-330 (with no mods) on a wrecking so i think your making that up
you fooooool
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akrotor
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Posted - 2004.10.05 01:16:00 -
[78]
hmmmmmmmm i really really really think you are talking out your arse hera 400+ with 250s my m8 is a crusier specialist with lvl 5 gunery ect ect ect i cant be btoherd going into details but he hits a 300-330 (with no mods) on a wrecking so i think your making that up
you fooooool
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Tennotsukai
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Posted - 2004.10.05 01:49:00 -
[79]
Originally by: TuRtLe HeAd
And I probably will fit it with rails too!
Won't take one of those elite cruisers anywhere near a battle, Bad enough losing a battleship It will be even more expensive to lose a battlecruiser.
The deimos, isn't a battle cruiser, its a heavy assault ship (T2 thorax) the Battle cruisers are a totally different breed of ship. And it does look rather nasty, with a few mods on it resists and such, i have a feeling that the deimos is going to be a solo BS killer, but hey don't quote me on that.
Originally by: akrotor
hmmmmmmmm i really really really think you are talking out your arse hera 400+ with 250s my m8 is a crusier specialist with lvl 5 gunery ect ect ect i cant be btoherd going into details but he hits a 300-330 (with no mods) on a wrecking so i think your making that up
you fooooool
I would be inclined to agree with you, until tonight.. when i see my wife, get a 407 wrecking hit against a npc cruiser.. so anything is possible, mind you thats the first and only time i have seen it. Even when i was a rail rax flyer, but well i went the path of the blasterax and have never looked back, its a lot more damaging and deadly then a rail rax.
"scotty, i need more power to warp out."
"i canna give yer any more captain, the dilithium crystal was nerfed this morning.. yer just gonna have ta face it, we've been ganked." |
Tennotsukai
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Posted - 2004.10.05 01:49:00 -
[80]
Originally by: TuRtLe HeAd
And I probably will fit it with rails too!
Won't take one of those elite cruisers anywhere near a battle, Bad enough losing a battleship It will be even more expensive to lose a battlecruiser.
The deimos, isn't a battle cruiser, its a heavy assault ship (T2 thorax) the Battle cruisers are a totally different breed of ship. And it does look rather nasty, with a few mods on it resists and such, i have a feeling that the deimos is going to be a solo BS killer, but hey don't quote me on that.
Originally by: akrotor
hmmmmmmmm i really really really think you are talking out your arse hera 400+ with 250s my m8 is a crusier specialist with lvl 5 gunery ect ect ect i cant be btoherd going into details but he hits a 300-330 (with no mods) on a wrecking so i think your making that up
you fooooool
I would be inclined to agree with you, until tonight.. when i see my wife, get a 407 wrecking hit against a npc cruiser.. so anything is possible, mind you thats the first and only time i have seen it. Even when i was a rail rax flyer, but well i went the path of the blasterax and have never looked back, its a lot more damaging and deadly then a rail rax.
"scotty, i need more power to warp out."
"i canna give yer any more captain, the dilithium crystal was nerfed this morning.. yer just gonna have ta face it, we've been ganked." |
Vanth Dreadstar
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Posted - 2004.10.05 03:43:00 -
[81]
I couldn't paste this in the space provided, so here's a link :
http://home.cogeco.ca/~pblonde2/crappyrax.txt
The filename is, of course, sarcastic.
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Vanth Dreadstar
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Posted - 2004.10.05 03:43:00 -
[82]
I couldn't paste this in the space provided, so here's a link :
http://home.cogeco.ca/~pblonde2/crappyrax.txt
The filename is, of course, sarcastic.
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Vanth Dreadstar
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Posted - 2004.10.05 03:45:00 -
[83]
OK let's try that again :
http://home.cogeco.ca/~pblonde2/crappyrax.txt
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Vanth Dreadstar
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Posted - 2004.10.05 03:45:00 -
[84]
OK let's try that again :
http://home.cogeco.ca/~pblonde2/crappyrax.txt
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TuRtLe HeAd
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Posted - 2004.10.05 06:54:00 -
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Sorry Shadowsword. Dinnay mean to get all aggressive on you ! But My point was merely just a personal opinion , One of A Blasterax needs to be at about 5km, And thats too close for me! The threat of Jamming is just too much!
But I still havn't lied yet about it ! I also use my Taranis with blaster set up and that pulls lovely hits of 280 quite alot also !
Am I a Lier for that as well ?
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TuRtLe HeAd
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Posted - 2004.10.05 06:54:00 -
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Sorry Shadowsword. Dinnay mean to get all aggressive on you ! But My point was merely just a personal opinion , One of A Blasterax needs to be at about 5km, And thats too close for me! The threat of Jamming is just too much!
But I still havn't lied yet about it ! I also use my Taranis with blaster set up and that pulls lovely hits of 280 quite alot also !
Am I a Lier for that as well ?
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