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Sradoc
Space Road Truckers. Sev3rance
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Posted - 2012.05.23 14:46:00 -
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So I tried this module, and found it to be extremely impotent. CCP stated that in order for this to be effective you need "A LOT" of active aggressors. I tested it with 18, and that only consistently yielded a 33% success rate, oddly though 100% of the time my lock was broken.
So even if 33% is reasonable, the major issue I had with this is the fact that the NPCs that you'll most likely want to 'lock break' are tacklers...and these have a pretty darn high scan res.
On top of that, the mod is designed for a mid slot. Now, if you're going to fit this to a Blops, or Marauder you'd want this in a high slot. As there is room to spare when doing PVE. For a Battleship, maybe... the point is, the med slot this mod takes up hinders your tank and if properly fit you wouldn't need this mod anyway.
So, I like to come up with a thought process of a person or group of people when I see something that falls short/fails epically. So here goes:
Enter Guy 1 and Guy 2:
Guy 1: "Hey, lets have a meeting to discuss the idea of a 'lock breaker mod'!"
Guy 2: "Sure, lets make this mod ONLY available to Battle Ships...their size makes them really easy to target by tacklers. So lets add a minor inconvenience for those small ships with high scan resolution."
Guy 1: "Great idea! Now lets make it so it will break your own lock too, but penalize your scan res so re-locking your target is SUPER difficult."
Guy 2: "Love it! Should we set this up so it makes your tank worse by making it a mid slot item? Rather than using a high slot?"
Guy 1: "Of course!! Better yet, lets allow Marauders to use it too...they have free high slots that should be used for tractor beams."
Guy 2: "Now that you mention it, Black Ops could do well with this. They already get a penalty to scan res from their cloak, and have a poor tank to start off with. Lets set it up so they can attempt to PvE!"
Guy 1: "But wouldn't Black Ops use this in PvP, since that's sort of their thing?"
Guy 2: "Nah, the effectiveness is terrible for a small group of PvPer and will only keep the black ops from fighting back."
Guy 1: "Great! Should we have a follow up meeting with other intelligent people and get feedback from the community?"
Guy 2: "Nah, lets just load it and get back to work with making awesome turret animations."
Exit Guy 1 and Guy 2 from their adjacent bathroom stalls.
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Falkwen
Caldari Navy Operations INQUISITION.
6
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Posted - 2012.05.23 14:53:00 -
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Sradoc wrote:So I tried this module, and found it to be extremely impotent. CCP stated that in order for this to be effective you need "A LOT" of active aggressors. I tested it with 18, and that only consistently yielded a 33% success rate, oddly though 100% of the time my lock was broken.
So even if 33% is reasonable, the major issue I had with this is the fact that the NPCs that you'll most likely want to 'lock break' are tacklers...and these have a pretty darn high scan res.
On top of that, the mod is designed for a mid slot. Now, if you're going to fit this to a Blops, or Marauder you'd want this in a high slot. As there is room to spare when doing PVE. For a Battleship, maybe... the point is, the med slot this mod takes up hinders your tank and if properly fit you wouldn't need this mod anyway.
So, I like to come up with a thought process of a person or group of people when I see something that falls short/fails epically. So here goes:
Enter Guy 1 and Guy 2:
Guy 1: "Hey, lets have a meeting to discuss the idea of a 'lock breaker mod'!"
Guy 2: "Sure, lets make this mod ONLY available to Battle Ships...their size makes them really easy to target by tacklers. So lets add a minor inconvenience for those small ships with high scan resolution."
Guy 1: "Great idea! Now lets make it so it will break your own lock too, but penalize your scan res so re-locking your target is SUPER difficult."
Guy 2: "Love it! Should we set this up so it makes your tank worse by making it a mid slot item? Rather than using a high slot?"
Guy 1: "Of course!! Better yet, lets allow Marauders to use it too...they have free high slots that should be used for tractor beams."
Guy 2: "Now that you mention it, Black Ops could do well with this. They already get a penalty to scan res from their cloak, and have a poor tank to start off with. Lets set it up so they can attempt to PvE!"
Guy 1: "But wouldn't Black Ops use this in PvP, since that's sort of their thing?"
Guy 2: "Nah, the effectiveness is terrible for a small group of PvPer and will only keep the black ops from fighting back."
Guy 1: "Great! Should we have a follow up meeting with other intelligent people and get feedback from the community?"
Guy 2: "Nah, lets just load it and get back to work with making awesome turret animations."
Exit Guy 1 and Guy 2 from their adjacent bathroom stalls.
I ain't tried it yet so bow to your testing of it. Ill give it a go later but already agree in some ways mate as yea taking out a mid slot. Moving to high would make sense and more so in the Marauders mate.
Interesting enough your Guy 1 and Guy 2 but as I was reading it I kepting seeing Gay 1 Gay 2. Don't know what that says about me to be honest. Perhaps im slowly coming out of a closet I didn't know I was in wanting to come out of..... |

Tamiya Sarossa
Hedion University Amarr Empire
169
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Posted - 2012.05.23 17:57:00 -
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I'm pretty sure it's aimed at large fleet battles, not helping you break NPC tackles. Get it tested in a proper fleet fight with 500+ people and then get back to us?
EDIT: and to be honest the Black Ops and Marauder inclusion is probably for consistency since they're the only other BS-class ships out there, not out of any misplaced hope that they'll frequently fit them. It would be more odd if they couldn't, tbh. |

mxzf
Shovel Bros
1653
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Posted - 2012.05.23 18:09:00 -
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Tamiya Sarossa wrote:I'm pretty sure it's aimed at large fleet battles, not helping you break NPC tackles. Get it tested in a proper fleet fight with 500+ people and then get back to us?
EDIT: and to be honest the Black Ops and Marauder inclusion is probably for consistency since they're the only other BS-class ships out there, not out of any misplaced hope that they'll frequently fit them. It would be more odd if they couldn't, tbh.
This. The module is designed for "Oh, crap, I'm primary in the fleet fight. Start spamming warp and activate this thing to warp away and live". It's not designed for breaking the lock of tackle rats, or PvE at all. It's a PvP module (specifically for large fleet fights), any PvE use is purely coincidental.
tl;dr: Stop complaining about something not working as you expect it to when you're using it wrong. |

Sradoc
Space Road Truckers. Sev3rance
0
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Posted - 2012.05.23 18:21:00 -
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mxzf wrote:Tamiya Sarossa wrote:I'm pretty sure it's aimed at large fleet battles, not helping you break NPC tackles. Get it tested in a proper fleet fight with 500+ people and then get back to us?
EDIT: and to be honest the Black Ops and Marauder inclusion is probably for consistency since they're the only other BS-class ships out there, not out of any misplaced hope that they'll frequently fit them. It would be more odd if they couldn't, tbh. This. The module is designed for "Oh, crap, I'm primary in the fleet fight. Start spamming warp and activate this thing to warp away and live". It's not designed for breaking the lock of tackle rats, or PvE at all. It's a PvP module (specifically for large fleet fights), any PvE use is purely coincidental. tl;dr: Stop complaining about something not working as you expect it to when you're using it wrong.
I seriously doubt you've even attempted to use this mod. And if you have, you haven't seriously used it in a fleet battle of 500+ people. And if you have you are lying about it being useful in such a situation.
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Michael Harari
The Hatchery Team Liquid
88
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Posted - 2012.05.23 18:28:00 -
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Sradoc wrote:mxzf wrote:Tamiya Sarossa wrote:I'm pretty sure it's aimed at large fleet battles, not helping you break NPC tackles. Get it tested in a proper fleet fight with 500+ people and then get back to us?
EDIT: and to be honest the Black Ops and Marauder inclusion is probably for consistency since they're the only other BS-class ships out there, not out of any misplaced hope that they'll frequently fit them. It would be more odd if they couldn't, tbh. This. The module is designed for "Oh, crap, I'm primary in the fleet fight. Start spamming warp and activate this thing to warp away and live". It's not designed for breaking the lock of tackle rats, or PvE at all. It's a PvP module (specifically for large fleet fights), any PvE use is purely coincidental. tl;dr: Stop complaining about something not working as you expect it to when you're using it wrong. I seriously doubt you've even attempted to use this mod. And if you have, you haven't seriously used it in a fleet battle of 500+ people. And if you have you are lying about it being useful in such a situation.
You havent tested it there either. If 18 people has a 33% break rate, than 500 people should be quite a bit higher, making this very useful in certain fleets. |

Sradoc
Space Road Truckers. Sev3rance
0
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Posted - 2012.05.23 18:34:00 -
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Michael Harari wrote:Sradoc wrote:mxzf wrote:Tamiya Sarossa wrote:I'm pretty sure it's aimed at large fleet battles, not helping you break NPC tackles. Get it tested in a proper fleet fight with 500+ people and then get back to us?
EDIT: and to be honest the Black Ops and Marauder inclusion is probably for consistency since they're the only other BS-class ships out there, not out of any misplaced hope that they'll frequently fit them. It would be more odd if they couldn't, tbh. This. The module is designed for "Oh, crap, I'm primary in the fleet fight. Start spamming warp and activate this thing to warp away and live". It's not designed for breaking the lock of tackle rats, or PvE at all. It's a PvP module (specifically for large fleet fights), any PvE use is purely coincidental. tl;dr: Stop complaining about something not working as you expect it to when you're using it wrong. I seriously doubt you've even attempted to use this mod. And if you have, you haven't seriously used it in a fleet battle of 500+ people. And if you have you are lying about it being useful in such a situation. You havent tested it there either. If 18 people has a 33% break rate, than 500 people should be quite a bit higher, making this very useful in certain fleets.
I have tested it, and I provided my parameters for the test. If you can test it with 500+ people (and prove it) I'll listen to something you may have to say.
Other than that, you have nothing to provide that's useful. |

Cpt AngelNova
Licentia Ex Vereor Intrepid Crossing
0
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Posted - 2012.05.23 18:38:00 -
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Michael Harari wrote:Sradoc wrote:mxzf wrote:Tamiya Sarossa wrote:I'm pretty sure it's aimed at large fleet battles, not helping you break NPC tackles. Get it tested in a proper fleet fight with 500+ people and then get back to us?
EDIT: and to be honest the Black Ops and Marauder inclusion is probably for consistency since they're the only other BS-class ships out there, not out of any misplaced hope that they'll frequently fit them. It would be more odd if they couldn't, tbh. This. The module is designed for "Oh, crap, I'm primary in the fleet fight. Start spamming warp and activate this thing to warp away and live". It's not designed for breaking the lock of tackle rats, or PvE at all. It's a PvP module (specifically for large fleet fights), any PvE use is purely coincidental. tl;dr: Stop complaining about something not working as you expect it to when you're using it wrong. I seriously doubt you've even attempted to use this mod. And if you have, you haven't seriously used it in a fleet battle of 500+ people. And if you have you are lying about it being useful in such a situation. You havent tested it there either. If 18 people has a 33% break rate, than 500 people should be quite a bit higher, making this very useful in certain fleets.
With all do respect. if you are being targeted by 500+ people you're already dead, those of us who have been in large battles even under the best minimal possible lag situations will confirm this, thus i personally have my doubts about this module |

Warpshade
2
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Posted - 2012.05.23 21:49:00 -
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The only situation I can see it being really useful, is on something like a bait scorpion? |

Bacchanalian
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
66
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Posted - 2012.05.23 21:58:00 -
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mxzf wrote:Tamiya Sarossa wrote:I'm pretty sure it's aimed at large fleet battles, not helping you break NPC tackles. Get it tested in a proper fleet fight with 500+ people and then get back to us?
EDIT: and to be honest the Black Ops and Marauder inclusion is probably for consistency since they're the only other BS-class ships out there, not out of any misplaced hope that they'll frequently fit them. It would be more odd if they couldn't, tbh. This. The module is designed for "Oh, crap, I'm primary in the fleet fight. Start spamming warp and activate this thing to warp away and live".
Bubbles > your argument.
That said, I know very little about this module outside of the fact that I'm less likely to use it than I am to use an ECM burst, and the ONLY time I could imagine using an ECM burst would be on a trollfit solo Scorpion.
End of the day plenty of interesting modules did come into the game with Inferno. This just happens to not be one of them. NBD |
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Jezs
Missions Mining and Mayhem Northern Coalition.
9
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Posted - 2012.05.23 22:13:00 -
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lol |

Drunken Bum
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
23
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Posted - 2012.05.23 22:24:00 -
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stopped reading at npc. Herp. |

Sradoc
Space Road Truckers. Sev3rance
0
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Posted - 2012.05.23 22:58:00 -
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the lolz would be when you use this in PvP...I dare you :P
Seriously, fit a BS up with this thing and head to sev space. I would love to see the result. |

Sradoc
Space Road Truckers. Sev3rance
0
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Posted - 2012.05.23 22:59:00 -
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Drunken Bum wrote:stopped reading at npc. Herp.
Yeah, I tested it with players first...but CCP said I needed to have "A LOT". Well, where can you find "A LOT" of ships to lock you? Derp Derp |

Michael Harari
The Hatchery Team Liquid
88
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Posted - 2012.05.23 23:21:00 -
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Sradoc wrote:Drunken Bum wrote:stopped reading at npc. Herp. Yeah, I tested it with players first...but CCP said I needed to have "A LOT". Well, where can you find "A LOT" of ships to lock you? Derp Derp
You could go to VFK |

Sradoc
Space Road Truckers. Sev3rance
0
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Posted - 2012.05.23 23:34:00 -
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Michael Harari wrote:Sradoc wrote:Drunken Bum wrote:stopped reading at npc. Herp. Yeah, I tested it with players first...but CCP said I needed to have "A LOT". Well, where can you find "A LOT" of ships to lock you? Derp Derp You could go to VFK
Option. |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
258
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Posted - 2012.05.24 00:04:00 -
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mxzf wrote:any PvE use is purely coincidental. You mean like how one intended use is on marauders? How does that make sense? Support showing T2 and faction frequency crystal damage in the info window. (Link was wrong, now fixed) |

Sradoc
Space Road Truckers. Sev3rance
0
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Posted - 2012.05.24 00:41:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:mxzf wrote:any PvE use is purely coincidental. You mean like how one intended use is on marauders? How does that make sense?
Yeah, he's another one that needs to fit one of these out on a navy mega and head down to null sec.
Seriously though, this mod will take some balls to fit on a PvP battleship. |

Lili Lu
231
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Posted - 2012.05.24 01:10:00 -
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When I first saw this on the test server I misunderstood it and thought great how does the game need more ecm. But what it really is is a gtfo option to possibly avoid being alpha'd by artillery module. Now I have not tested it in a fleet battle. But I'm sure it will get tested in this way.
So there you are with an overview of yellow boxes. You could hit it at that moment and congrats when they do turn red you may survive the first volley as quite possibly a majority of the enemy may not realize that they lost target on you when you were the secondary or tertiary. They may be stuck trying to reaquire you as a target while your logis are enjoying a chance to rehabilitate your hp or you are already warping out.
Alternately, sometimes in fleet fights you can guage when your numbers been picked. Not every yellow box becomes a red box at the exact same instant. So oh look on your watch list or over comms someone in your fleet just went down and you just saw a couple yellows turn red. Click. Now fewer yellows in overview can start turning red. Again this may or may not be enough to allow warp out or your logis to pull you back.
Tbh, this probably beats the alternative of nerfing artillery alpha in a lot of people's minds. I still think alpha and slowed rof on arty was overdone, but this is a creative solution to the alpha fleet problem. So I have to commend CCP on this one despite my initial horror at seeing what looked like a new ecm module.
And, OP, this was obviously not intended as a pve module. I think the inclusion of Marauders was simply to include all BS classes in the ability to use it for consistency sake.
So, as for pvp whether it will indeed perform as intended we will know in a month or a few weeks or so. I don't think balls will have anything to do with a decision to fit it. It will boil down to whether it can actually paritally counter an alpha fleet- whether it performs as a percent chance to survive an alpha from the get go, or instead operates as a method to speed up the threshhold of reaching a point where your fleet has killed enough alpha maels to no longer die instantly to the alpha strike. Will be interesting to see if it's stats as presently set work as intended, or not enough or too much and whether it gets altered once it has become apparent which is the situation.
edit- There you go CCP. Here's some overdue praise for your introduction of this module. o7 I'm ashamed of my flame post in the test server thread.  |

ulrack
Sci-Corp
0
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Posted - 2012.05.24 02:06:00 -
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Sradoc wrote:Drunken Bum wrote:stopped reading at npc. Herp. Yeah, I tested it with players first...but CCP said I needed to have "A LOT". Well, where can you find "A LOT" of ships to lock you? Derp Derp
Head to Jita, When you enter the system invite everyone to check out your new officer fit Marauder.
But honestly, thanks for your initial review. Was about to go pick one up but I think I will wait and see |
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TotalRapeage
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2012.05.24 02:15:00 -
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Tamiya Sarossa wrote:I'm pretty sure it's aimed at large fleet battles, not helping you break NPC tackles. Get it tested in a proper fleet fight with 500+ people and then get back to us?
EDIT: and to be honest the Black Ops and Marauder inclusion is probably for consistency since they're the only other BS-class ships out there, not out of any misplaced hope that they'll frequently fit them. It would be more odd if they couldn't, tbh.
Note: Will affect all targeting computers, including those of friendly vessels and of the host ship itself.
What's this thing do to other ships in your fleet as far as their ability to target the enemy? Also, due to the 50% scan res hit you take for fitting this, I just don't see this being used in fleets unless your talking disco fleets.
This module is more of a GTFO for a solo travel fit or disco bs. |

Cambarus
Baros Reloaded
169
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Posted - 2012.05.24 02:18:00 -
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TotalRapeage wrote:Tamiya Sarossa wrote:I'm pretty sure it's aimed at large fleet battles, not helping you break NPC tackles. Get it tested in a proper fleet fight with 500+ people and then get back to us?
EDIT: and to be honest the Black Ops and Marauder inclusion is probably for consistency since they're the only other BS-class ships out there, not out of any misplaced hope that they'll frequently fit them. It would be more odd if they couldn't, tbh. Note: Will affect all targeting computers, including those of friendly vessels and of the host ship itself. What's this thing do to other ships in your fleet as far as their ability to target the enemy? Also, due to the 50% scan res hit you take for fitting this, I just don't see this being used in fleets unless your talking disco fleets. This module is more of a GTFO for a solo travel fit or disco bs. As someone whose name starts with a C, I could see fitting this on a fleet ship. |

Sradoc
Space Road Truckers. Sev3rance
0
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Posted - 2012.05.24 02:18:00 -
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-herp derp, double post. |

Sradoc
Space Road Truckers. Sev3rance
0
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Posted - 2012.05.24 02:19:00 -
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Lili Lu wrote:When I first saw this on the test server I misunderstood it and thought great how does the game need more ecm. But what it really is is a gtfo option to possibly avoid being alpha'd by artillery module. Now I have not tested it in a fleet battle. But I'm sure it will get tested in this way. So there you are with an overview of yellow boxes. You could hit it at that moment and congrats when they do turn red you may survive the first volley as quite possibly a majority of the enemy may not realize that they lost target on you when you were the secondary or tertiary. They may be stuck trying to reaquire you as a target while your logis are enjoying a chance to rehabilitate your hp or you are already warping out. Alternately, sometimes in fleet fights you can guage when your numbers been picked. Not every yellow box becomes a red box at the exact same instant. So oh look on your watch list or over comms someone in your fleet just went down and you just saw a couple yellows turn red. Click. Now fewer yellows in overview can start turning red. Again this may or may not be enough to allow warp out or your logis to pull you back. Tbh, this probably beats the alternative of nerfing artillery alpha in a lot of people's minds. I still think alpha and slowed rof on arty was overdone, but this is a creative solution to the alpha fleet problem. So I have to commend CCP on this one despite my initial horror at seeing what looked like a new ecm module. And, OP, this was obviously not intended as a pve module. I think the inclusion of Marauders was simply to include all BS classes in the ability to use it for consistency sake. So, as for pvp whether it will indeed perform as intended we will know in a month or a few weeks or so. I don't think balls will have anything to do with a decision to fit it. It will boil down to whether it can actually paritally counter an alpha fleet- whether it performs as a percent chance to survive an alpha from the get go, or instead operates as a method to speed up the threshhold of reaching a point where your fleet has killed enough alpha maels to no longer die instantly to the alpha strike. Will be interesting to see if it's stats as presently set work as intended, or not enough or too much and whether it gets altered once it has become apparent which is the situation. edit- There you go CCP. Here's some overdue praise for your introduction of this module. o7 I'm ashamed of my flame post in the test server thread.   edit 2- also, OP, you seem to think there is no tank but a mid slot tank. There are ships that low slot tank. And their logis reps activate at the end of the cycle so putting it as a mid slot is fine. Other than a DC or armor hardeners I'm presently drawing a blank as to any other active low slot item. This mod obviously need to be highly energized like most ewar (all midslot) to have an effect, and thus it is midslot.
Unfortunately, it's not a gtfo quick mod. It's more of a 'I need to reduce incoming dps'. Like I've said before, I challenge you to try this out in null sec as a gtfo quick option and see how you do.
So there you are, yellow boxes on the overview. You hit your fancy new mod...but wait, only (generously) half of the ships loose their lock. And by the way, of that half, a quarter was your logi. That scenario you proposed will most likely only exist in the best of cases and in very few occurrences.
I do think you have a point against an alpha fleet if you're trying to get back to gate or station. As this mod doesn't cause aggression timer to kick in. Well done on spotting that. I will be anxious to see the results of that (positive for the mod I hope).
This mod is hardly going to be introduced into many PvP fits, but I do think some will attempt it. And I do wish to see that, especially in my space. I'll be having a good time with a BS as it puts on the light show in an attempt to retreat.
I do still believe this is mainly for PvE, the penalty to scan res makes it hardly worth putting on a BS for PvP. If it was outright for PvP I'm sure it wouldn't have such a high scan res penalty. I've seen it time and time again, that CCP considers ships/mods intended for PvE to have a lower scan res and sensor strength. It's just history, not opinion. So no one can say it's 'not a pve mod'. That's just not going to sit well ever.
You're right on the tank, it's called armor/daft hull tanking (guess you could call it low slot tanking). It's how amarr and gallante tank and sometimes minmatar. You're forgetting about Heavy Interdictors, that use a high slot for the mobile warp disruption field. That's an ewar mod as well. Neuts and Vamps also 'could' fall into that category as well. Thing is, the ships this mod was designed for have (usually) more high slots than they can fit guns.
I appreciate your input, that alpha fleet counter will be interesting. I can't wait to see how that turns out.
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TotalRapeage
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2012.05.24 02:20:00 -
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Cambarus wrote:TotalRapeage wrote:Tamiya Sarossa wrote:I'm pretty sure it's aimed at large fleet battles, not helping you break NPC tackles. Get it tested in a proper fleet fight with 500+ people and then get back to us?
EDIT: and to be honest the Black Ops and Marauder inclusion is probably for consistency since they're the only other BS-class ships out there, not out of any misplaced hope that they'll frequently fit them. It would be more odd if they couldn't, tbh. Note: Will affect all targeting computers, including those of friendly vessels and of the host ship itself. What's this thing do to other ships in your fleet as far as their ability to target the enemy? Also, due to the 50% scan res hit you take for fitting this, I just don't see this being used in fleets unless your talking disco fleets. This module is more of a GTFO for a solo travel fit or disco bs. As someone whose name starts with a C, I could see fitting this on a fleet ship.
might as well fit warp stabs while your at it and gimp your ship even more and go down like a true carebear. |

MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
335
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Posted - 2012.05.24 05:54:00 -
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i am thinking this mod would do nicely on a domi fleet...
PLEX FOR PIZZA!
TECH iii MINNING SHIPS! |

Crellion
Parental Control
22
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Posted - 2012.05.24 06:57:00 -
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MeBiatch wrote:i am thinking this mod would do nicely on a domi fleet...
If it affect everyone on grid I d be obliged to agree 0_0
also +1 to Cambarus... I know something about fleet fights and char names starting with a C myself... |

Sradoc
Space Road Truckers. Sev3rance
0
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Posted - 2012.05.24 13:41:00 -
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I think maybe the best use of this mod (so far that I've figured) would be if you're doing sites in low/null sec. Say you have 30+ NPCs, and then a lone bomber or recon hot drops you. Well now you have 30+ what ever they bring in. The mod all of a sudden becomes a lot more useful.
It may break the lock of the PvPers and/or allow the NPCs to retarget the aggressing fleet.
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
258
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Posted - 2012.05.24 13:55:00 -
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Sradoc wrote:I think maybe the best use of this mod (so far that I've figured) would be if you're doing sites in low/null sec. Say you have 30+ NPCs, and then a lone bomber or recon hot drops you. Well now you have 30+ what ever they bring in. The mod all of a sudden becomes a lot more useful.
It may break the lock of the PvPers and/or allow the NPCs to retarget the aggressing fleet.
Makes sense, especially for Marauders. I kind of like the idea of marauders filling a niche as nullsec anom runners. I'd like to see how this would play out (being part of the hotdrop fleet ) Support showing T2 and faction frequency crystal damage in the info window. (Link was wrong, now fixed) |

Bouh Revetoile
The Rough Riders Ares Protectiva
21
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Posted - 2012.05.24 13:57:00 -
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Sradoc wrote: Makes sense, especially for Marauders.
You really want this mod to fit on a marauder... |
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