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Dr Caymus
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Posted - 2004.09.29 04:57:00 -
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...its only going to cover me for 8 to 10 weeks. I'm currently at 22.4 million skill points and with the advanced learning skills I will soon be accumulating in excess of 50 thousand points per day. It will not take long to pass the 25.6 million point level protected by the Uber clone.
It might have been insightful to add 3 or 4 new clone levels 
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Dr Caymus
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Posted - 2004.09.29 04:57:00 -
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...its only going to cover me for 8 to 10 weeks. I'm currently at 22.4 million skill points and with the advanced learning skills I will soon be accumulating in excess of 50 thousand points per day. It will not take long to pass the 25.6 million point level protected by the Uber clone.
It might have been insightful to add 3 or 4 new clone levels 
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Tripoli
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Posted - 2004.09.29 04:59:00 -
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Heh.....was wondering how long it would be til you posted this.  ---
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Tripoli
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Posted - 2004.09.29 04:59:00 -
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Heh.....was wondering how long it would be til you posted this.  ---
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Dr Caymus
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Posted - 2004.09.29 05:05:00 -
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Dr Caymus
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Posted - 2004.09.29 05:05:00 -
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Hanse Davion
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Posted - 2004.09.29 05:17:00 -
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Dr. C you my hero.
9mil SP and going strong....I'll catch up to you one day....LOL
2005.01.21 05:09:06combatYour Tachyon Beam Laser I perfectly strikes Blood Priest, wrecking for 533.1 damage. |

Hanse Davion
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Posted - 2004.09.29 05:17:00 -
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Dr. C you my hero.
9mil SP and going strong....I'll catch up to you one day....LOL
2005.01.21 05:09:06combatYour Tachyon Beam Laser I perfectly strikes Blood Priest, wrecking for 533.1 damage. |

Soren
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Posted - 2004.09.29 05:18:00 -
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I was thinking the same thing, something must be happening when shiva comes? _________________________________________________________
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Soren
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Posted - 2004.09.29 05:18:00 -
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I was thinking the same thing, something must be happening when shiva comes? _________________________________________________________
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Kuolematon
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Posted - 2004.09.29 10:08:00 -
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I need better clones too!! .. to cover up my 800k SP  _______________________________________________ My opinions aren't my corporations opinions.
(\_/) (x.x) This is what's left of Bunny, the rest tasted delicious. |

Kuolematon
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Posted - 2004.09.29 10:08:00 -
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I need better clones too!! .. to cover up my 800k SP  _______________________________________________ My opinions aren't my corporations opinions.
(\_/) (x.x) This is what's left of Bunny, the rest tasted delicious. |

Discorporation
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Posted - 2004.09.29 10:26:00 -
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I thought you never left your hangar 0-o
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2004.09.29 10:26:00 -
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I thought you never left your hangar 0-o
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Cell Satimo
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Posted - 2004.09.29 14:51:00 -
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The original description of clones in Beta was that quality would effect the probability of maintaining level 5/4/3/2/1 skills when podded.
I wonder if they'll return to this model in Shiva. | Join eve-webring.com to promote your site. |

Cell Satimo
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Posted - 2004.09.29 14:51:00 -
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The original description of clones in Beta was that quality would effect the probability of maintaining level 5/4/3/2/1 skills when podded.
I wonder if they'll return to this model in Shiva. | Join eve-webring.com to promote your site. |

X'Alor
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Posted - 2004.09.29 15:03:00 -
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everyone is always talking about risk vs. reward, no matter if it empire hunting, 00 BS hunting, pirate gate blocking.
personally I don't think there is any more risk vs reward more tantilizing than not having clones cover all skill points. Nothing better than flying around unprotected and getting away with it.
it forces specialized characters, a specialized character can have all the skill he needs and stay fully protected with current clones.
what better risk vs reward can you have.
risk of loosing skill points when trained at such an uber lvl for flying around and playing the game however you choose.
and like you say, you'll be training at 50k a day so who cares if you loose some points, you can make it up EVE'ntually and it only takes you 50k a day.
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X'Alor
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Posted - 2004.09.29 15:03:00 -
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everyone is always talking about risk vs. reward, no matter if it empire hunting, 00 BS hunting, pirate gate blocking.
personally I don't think there is any more risk vs reward more tantilizing than not having clones cover all skill points. Nothing better than flying around unprotected and getting away with it.
it forces specialized characters, a specialized character can have all the skill he needs and stay fully protected with current clones.
what better risk vs reward can you have.
risk of loosing skill points when trained at such an uber lvl for flying around and playing the game however you choose.
and like you say, you'll be training at 50k a day so who cares if you loose some points, you can make it up EVE'ntually and it only takes you 50k a day.
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JarmenKell
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Posted - 2004.09.29 15:21:00 -
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no one can catch up wth him he is jsut too far. there is new skills out so he still need to train them and there is going to be even more out on shiva. but what about a clone. will u lurk in empire all ur life. dude best of luck with CCP hope they get you and the rest of the guys sorted out. i think the whole clone thing is b-s they need to take it off as it can make people loose months of play time. . . they should bring out something else to like taxation for how much money u have every month. and the money goes to no body
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JarmenKell
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Posted - 2004.09.29 15:21:00 -
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no one can catch up wth him he is jsut too far. there is new skills out so he still need to train them and there is going to be even more out on shiva. but what about a clone. will u lurk in empire all ur life. dude best of luck with CCP hope they get you and the rest of the guys sorted out. i think the whole clone thing is b-s they need to take it off as it can make people loose months of play time. . . they should bring out something else to like taxation for how much money u have every month. and the money goes to no body
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Veneth
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Posted - 2004.09.29 15:33:00 -
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Originally by: JarmenKell no one can catch up wth him he is jsut too far. there is new skills out so he still need to train them and there is going to be even more out on shiva. but what about a clone. will u lurk in empire all ur life. dude best of luck with CCP hope they get you and the rest of the guys sorted out. i think the whole clone thing is b-s they need to take it off as it can make people loose months of play time. . . they should bring out something else to like taxation for how much money u have every month. and the money goes to no body
LOL yeah that's a great idea. watch the old eve players drop like flies and find another game to play :) "Oh gee I died.. will take me 3 months to get back to where I started.. hmmm I wonder how (insert name here) MMORPG is.."
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Veneth
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Posted - 2004.09.29 15:33:00 -
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Originally by: JarmenKell no one can catch up wth him he is jsut too far. there is new skills out so he still need to train them and there is going to be even more out on shiva. but what about a clone. will u lurk in empire all ur life. dude best of luck with CCP hope they get you and the rest of the guys sorted out. i think the whole clone thing is b-s they need to take it off as it can make people loose months of play time. . . they should bring out something else to like taxation for how much money u have every month. and the money goes to no body
LOL yeah that's a great idea. watch the old eve players drop like flies and find another game to play :) "Oh gee I died.. will take me 3 months to get back to where I started.. hmmm I wonder how (insert name here) MMORPG is.."
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yellow
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Posted - 2004.09.29 15:59:00 -
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Originally by: Veneth
LOL yeah that's a great idea. watch the old eve players drop like flies and find another game to play :) "Oh gee I died.. will take me 3 months to get back to where I started.. hmmm I wonder how (insert name here) MMORPG is.."
I think he meant that you just respawn automatically upon death at binded station without the need to actively buy a clone. When I was starting out I had no idea podding meant lose of skill points till about 1mil sp....that would of really sucked, subscription cancelation would of happened instantly afterwards.
Anyway now that I'm aware of clones, they're fine, you need a penalty for death and a isk penalty is the best thing would could ask for.
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yellow
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Posted - 2004.09.29 15:59:00 -
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Originally by: Veneth
LOL yeah that's a great idea. watch the old eve players drop like flies and find another game to play :) "Oh gee I died.. will take me 3 months to get back to where I started.. hmmm I wonder how (insert name here) MMORPG is.."
I think he meant that you just respawn automatically upon death at binded station without the need to actively buy a clone. When I was starting out I had no idea podding meant lose of skill points till about 1mil sp....that would of really sucked, subscription cancelation would of happened instantly afterwards.
Anyway now that I'm aware of clones, they're fine, you need a penalty for death and a isk penalty is the best thing would could ask for.
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JarmenKell
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Posted - 2004.09.29 16:05:00 -
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clone cost should be per skill point. and come in form of bills
that way you pay for what you got. you don t pay more than or less than jsut the exact amount/
they should be a 25 mill skills clone availible by now. i really wanna know how many people with over 19 mill #sp is there/.
i know like 10-20 just from forums. in skill section.
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JarmenKell
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Posted - 2004.09.29 16:05:00 -
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clone cost should be per skill point. and come in form of bills
that way you pay for what you got. you don t pay more than or less than jsut the exact amount/
they should be a 25 mill skills clone availible by now. i really wanna know how many people with over 19 mill #sp is there/.
i know like 10-20 just from forums. in skill section.
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Ka'ira
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Posted - 2004.09.29 17:52:00 -
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Think the price for a clone is rather expensive, and why don't you only pay the difference between two clones when upgrading?
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Ka'ira
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Posted - 2004.09.29 17:52:00 -
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Think the price for a clone is rather expensive, and why don't you only pay the difference between two clones when upgrading?
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Kitten Hearder
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Posted - 2004.09.29 18:18:00 -
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Originally by: Ka'ira why don't you only pay the difference between two clones when upgrading?
Uh, I thought you did. --------- Kitten Hearder Evolution made my sig Less Entertaining than your's. |

Kitten Hearder
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Posted - 2004.09.29 18:18:00 -
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Originally by: Ka'ira why don't you only pay the difference between two clones when upgrading?
Uh, I thought you did. --------- Kitten Hearder Evolution made my sig Less Entertaining than your's. |
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