You see folks. This is what happens when you spend your time giving good, detailed suggestions instead of..

"OH NOES I H8 N3W invintory system soz I gonna unsub now bai!!!"

This new inventory system is the future. And once the many improvements and fixes are in place you will watch older system videos and wonder how you survived.

The question is how has this improved anything over the old functioning system.

New system takes more space
New system takes more time to operate at a pos or in a station where you have multiple ships cans and hangers to deal with.
New system generates messages (you can't access that item ) while traveling in space
New system links individual ships as a list rather than a hanger from which you can pick a ship from making it time consuming to switch ships and check the new cargo for ammo, and other charges in a pvp emergency.

If you have your cargo open in station on your active ship you have to close it to reaccess the corp hangers then reopen the cargo to do something as simple as reload a few more bits of ammo or ozone for a cyno.

The list of items , ships ect at a pos with a ship hanger and corporate hanger and some other mods not including the pos guns is just crazy when it is shared by a corp that builds and lives out of it so i do pitty those corps in wormholes or renter corps in 0.0.


Can someone pls explain how it has improved anything, i still don't see it. Maybe i need to log into a toon that has no corp, no cans and no assets to understand the utility of this new feature.

If it isn't eve offline it's glitch central and more patches needed.

Star Fleet Command was like that and it died


NoYes.

they don't need to tell us why they want this so badly, the reasons are fairly obvious imo:
1. they want new players joining, the game has to look enticing to those who aren't current subs.
2. eve is notorious for being a spreadsheet war simulator, nuff said.

Yeah sorry guys, we won't be able to do everything at once, but hopefully we can trickle some fixes out. We had some go out today, some will go out next Tuesday and hopefully we can continue until it's in a better state. Anyway, that's it for now.

As luck would have it, the suggestions all point in the same general direction here. You also keep ignoring the fact that this isn't just about suggestions GÇö this is about pointing out bugs and lacking functionality. There is no GÇ£opinionGÇ£ about it.

Then maybe you shouldn't argue about statistics, because 300 out of 30,000 is a very large sampleGǪ

I'm seriously looking at closing my 8 accounts and my friend has 4 accounts that he's looking at shutting off. We are miners with POS and can't deal with the problems with the UI. It's worse than having to deal with Hulkageddon.

Ahahahaha .... I ran some missions today, specifically looting wrecks. Words just fail me at the incompetence demonstrated by the folks that did this. *shakes head*
I have no regrets at directing personal attacks (which got culled by our dear CCP Guard) towards those person(s) responsible in my first post in the Inferno Issues thread.

Probably re-inforcing what's been flagged by others :

* the sheer amount of lag caused by opening and looting wrecks is just mind boggling (5-10 secs pause each wreck/can).
* each looting brings the focus back to active ship cargo, which forces you to re-click the next can/wreck on the list. Another mind boggler.
* screen real estate needed for the UI is at least 2x-3x as much to see everything. The old workflow was a better saver.

You've got a long way to go to sort out this mess.

Please do not speak for POS owners and users. POS Structure renaming is a godsend for us and I will gladly get 2k wormholer to call you a utter **** for saying otherwise.

They are not going back to the old UI. So suck it up and provide suggestions to make the new better for your uses.

It's ok I don't want your stuff.

Seriously folks thinking this is Incarna 2.0 are completely out of touch with reality in my opinion.

HTFU. Provide meaningful suggestions and move on.

It is a bit sad that people complain in loop about some issues that CCP stated the fix is already in the pipe ... (yes, I know, there's still issues not in the pipe, but they get drowned in the flood :/ )

The opt-out option is silly, because by principle people will NOT use the new system. So they have either to pull back or to fix the existing one, but I understand why they don't want the 2 aside. Moreover, old UI is 9 years old and code must be freaky old and clunky ...

now that you mention it, this unified inventory works like a charm for games like world of warcraft

Just to clarify, when I say "we're happy with" I mean getting the inventory into a shape that's satisfactory to the playerbase.

No one has at any point denied there is a problem. The fact that I'm telling you we're willing to basically patch this feature every week should tell you as much. I'll happily put it in writing though (again): This feature is not what we want it to be, for that you have our apologies and we'll do everything we can to fix it.

Roll this entire ****** expansion back. We don't care about your fancy new particle effects, ship models or shaders at this point. You've destroyed usability so badly that miners have stopped caring about Hulkageddon and are instead bitching about the UI. There are THOUSANDS of threads about this problem from THOUSANDS of unique individuals.

I did not say I like it, I'm in a WH, this new feature makes my life harder, and not by a bit. I said we should move forward, because moving back is not an option.

Ah, CCP, you better move fast.

I don't think a rollback of the system is absolutely necessary, all that's necessary is for the new system to functionally behave like the old system did, for starters, and then have the tree and filters and other new things optional on top of that. It looks like that's what the changes announced for 29 May are going to be the first few steps towards.

I think CCP are right to try and rationalize their code, and it's probably right even for them to test the UI out for other games (it's their right as creators). To avoid an Incarna-sized debacle, they just need to make the new UI function AT LEAST AS WELL AS (and hopefully better than) the old UI - as soon as possible would be good.