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Mashie Saldana
BFG Tech
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Posted - 2009.07.23 12:12:00 -
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Edited by: Mashie Saldana on 23/07/2009 12:14:56
Let's hope the bots will have a bit of a struggle now. |
Mashie Saldana
BFG Tech
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Posted - 2009.07.23 12:13:00 -
[2]
Ok, don't think it worked as a spam but just had a posting spree... |
Dirk Magnum
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2009.07.23 12:15:00 -
[3]
It doesn't seem to have dissuaded "Dirk Magnumm".  |
Tai Akhenor
Minmatar
1st Tactical Assault Brigade
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Posted - 2009.07.23 12:16:00 -
[4]
 Originally by: Dirk Magnum
It doesn't seem to have dissuaded "Dirk Magnumm".
I lol'd so hard when I saw that. |
Lexa Hellfury
Incura
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Posted - 2009.07.23 12:17:00 -
[5]
Originally by: Dirk Magnum
It doesn't seem to have dissuaded "Dirk Magnumm".
Nice! |
Durzel
The Xenodus Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.07.23 12:18:00 -
[6]
Probably because they're not bots.
Forum bots generally attack known forum software (vBulletin, phpBB, Snitz, etc), they don't tend to go after bespoke forums like this one.
Also, bots don't tend to go through the whole process of creating a paid-for account (and actually making a payment for it) before spamming.
It's a real person doing these. |
LaVista Vista
Conservative Shenanigans Party
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Posted - 2009.07.23 12:20:00 -
[7]
Logging in is a 1-time thing.
Hence, it's rather useless. |
Durzel
The Xenodus Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.07.23 12:22:00 -
[8]
It wouldn't be so bad if they didn't keep posting the same flat-chested asian bird either.  |
Nyphur
Pillowsoft
Total Comfort
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Posted - 2009.07.23 12:23:00 -
[9]
Originally by: LaVista Vista
Logging in is a 1-time thing.
Hence, it's rather useless.
They have to recycle the account sooner or later, which means logging in again. |
Mashie Saldana
BFG Tech
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Posted - 2009.07.23 12:25:00 -
[10]
Bah, I just noticed a great feature on the forums, even with pictures disabled, when you hit report the bloody images show up.
Thanks CCP, guess I shouldn't try to report these ****ers during my lunch break then.  |
Tai Akhenor
Minmatar
1st Tactical Assault Brigade
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Posted - 2009.07.23 12:25:00 -
[11]
I am curious as to how much the sales have increased this week due to the spammers, must be a decent ammount as I can see Yarton Killmoree, Dirk Magnumm and Dirk Magnums all posting this crap in the last 20 minutes alone. That is about 100 dollars right there (assuming they are using bought GTC's and not PLEX's) |
Tiny Tove
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Posted - 2009.07.23 12:32:00 -
[12]
Originally by: LaVista Vista
Logging in is a 1-time thing.
Hence, it's rather useless.
If only it were.
Fake Edit: Had to log in eleventyone times to post this. |
D Gelalder
Gallente
Core Antum
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Posted - 2009.07.23 12:41:00 -
[13]
So CCP's idea to keep there users safe is to increase the number of times we actually have to type in our account detail? :D
Heh, somewhere this is kinda screwed up.. since we are dealing with keyloggers. 
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Lexa Hellfury
Incura
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Posted - 2009.07.23 12:42:00 -
[14]
I find it funny that CAOD is now the cleanest forum on these boards |
Cat o'Ninetails
Rancer Defence League
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Posted - 2009.07.23 12:43:00 -
[15]
bit of a pain lol
i dont have any images or stuff when i bowser the internet
seeeeee :( this made the capture pretty tricky but its ok i guessed it lol |
Mashie Saldana
BFG Tech
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Posted - 2009.07.23 12:52:00 -
[16]
The only thing I can think of that would work is to put in a timer between creating new threads, say 10 minutes at least. I mean if you need to start new threads at a higher rate you have some serious issues. That way only 3 spam threads would be possible to post per account before they are reported and taken care of. If they want to spam more they will need to sacrifice more paid accounts.
Ofcourse this won't do much good if they start spamming by replying to threads instead.
In addition to that they can add so characters have to be 10-15 days old before they can post links and images. |
Kappas.
Galaxy Punks
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Posted - 2009.07.23 12:57:00 -
[17]
Well given how only paid for accounts can post on the forums can't you just ban them? You're getting cash anyway :p |
xBLACKNOVAx
Black Nova Investments
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Posted - 2009.07.23 13:01:00 -
[18]
Originally by: Kappas.
Well given how only paid for accounts can post on the forums can't you just ban them? You're getting cash anyway :p
They keep making new accounts with stolen credit card details |
Mashie Saldana
BFG Tech
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Posted - 2009.07.23 13:02:00 -
[19]
Originally by: Kappas.
Well given how only paid for accounts can post on the forums can't you just ban them? You're getting cash anyway :p
The trick is to mess up their intended spamming spree. Also if it is a time restriction before the first post then they will need to have a lot of accounts created "in preparation". Now if CCP can figure out a way to link the accounts together they can kill off two weeks worth of spam chars in one sweep. |
Kappas.
Galaxy Punks
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Posted - 2009.07.23 13:02:00 -
[20]
Originally by: xBLACKNOVAx
Originally by: Kappas.
Well given how only paid for accounts can post on the forums can't you just ban them? You're getting cash anyway :p
They keep making new accounts with stolen credit card details
bummer |
Abrazzar
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Posted - 2009.07.23 13:05:00 -
[21]
Originally by: Kappas.
Well given how only paid for accounts can post on the forums can't you just ban them? You're getting cash anyway :p
Of course they're getting banned. Every wave is another month subscription money for CCP. They make three characters, spam as much as possible and then get banned, hoping they get enough account details to make up for the cost.
Every account detail will be checked for every game they do business with, so if you happen to get keylogged and you use the same details elsewhere you'll lose all of your assets here and there.
Those keylogger spam attacks are exactly the reason why RMT is terribly bad. GTC sales don't even compare to the magnitude of terrible bad that this kind of malicious RMT is. |
Nyphur
Pillowsoft
Total Comfort
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Posted - 2009.07.23 13:05:00 -
[22]
Originally by: xBLACKNOVAx
Originally by: Kappas.
Well given how only paid for accounts can post on the forums can't you just ban them? You're getting cash anyway :p
They keep making new accounts with stolen credit card details
Bugger, you know I didn't even think of that. They're keylogging, of course they're going to steal people's credit card and paypal details. I wouldn't like to be the one handling the mess of chargebacks from that D:. |
Wai Ng'Tse
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Posted - 2009.07.23 13:06:00 -
[23]
Oh dear. The captcha has done absolutely nothing to prevent spam |
Mashie Saldana
BFG Tech
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Posted - 2009.07.23 13:12:00 -
[24]
Originally by: xBLACKNOVAx
They keep making new accounts with stolen credit card details
It is easier for them to just buy PLEX with stolen isk and convert trial accounts to paid accounts. |
Verite Rendition
Caldari
F.R.E.E. Explorer
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.07.23 13:17:00 -
[25]
Originally by: Wai Ng'Tse
Oh dear. The captcha has done absolutely nothing to prevent spam
I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case. Captcha's in general are broken (you should see the spam flooding out of Gmail), the specific one CCP is using is even more so. It's only useful against trivial OCR. None of these will stop a human, which is problematic as the attackers are likely meatbags. |
Tiny Tove
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Posted - 2009.07.23 13:19:00 -
[26]
Originally by: Kappas.
Well given how only paid for accounts can post on the forums can't you just ban them? You're getting cash anyway :p
The damage that the hacked accounts cause will likely cost CCP more to clean up than they get from a few stoley creddy cards. It's not a good thing. |
Munchees
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.07.23 13:20:00 -
[27]
Why does it have to be pron, too?
I mean can't they just make fake EVE fan sites and such? Nobodies going to click on a link from these forums to a pron site. |
Bestofworst Worstofbest
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.07.23 13:23:00 -
[28]
You know, this wouldn't have happened if the forums kept them from logging in like it did everyone else |
Munchees
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.07.23 13:25:00 -
[29]
Originally by: Bestofworst Worstofbest
You know, this wouldn't have happened if the forums kept them from logging in like it did everyone else
It doesn't stop us from logging in. It just makes it more annoying |
Durzel
The Xenodus Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.07.23 13:25:00 -
[30]
Originally by: Munchees
Why does it have to be pron, too?
I mean can't they just make fake EVE fan sites and such? Nobodies going to click on a link from these forums to a pron site.
I dunno about anyone else but I Google'd "Audrey Bitoni" after seeing it in one of the threads... all I can say is  |
Perpello
Astralite Technologies
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Posted - 2009.07.23 13:25:00 -
[31]
Wrong answer to the problem. |
Munchees
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.07.23 13:27:00 -
[32]
Obviously this is a case of CYBER TERRORISM and CYBER WARFARE!!!!!!!
What countries are enemies of Iceland? |
Tai Akhenor
Minmatar
1st Tactical Assault Brigade
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Posted - 2009.07.23 13:34:00 -
[33]
Originally by: Munchees
Obviously this is a case of CYBER TERRORISM and CYBER WARFARE!!!!!!!
What countries are enemies of Iceland?
#
England |
OV Marius
Gallente
Core Antum
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Posted - 2009.07.23 13:37:00 -
[34]
Originally by: CCP Navigator
It should also be noted that automatic login will also be disabled.
That really sucks  |
voogru
Massive Damage
United Corporations Against Macros
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Posted - 2009.07.23 13:37:00 -
[35]
The thing is we have to login like three times to make a post so just means more captchas for us.
Plus I think it's sweatshop labor making the posts anyways... |
Intigo
Amarr
Endemic Aggression
Exalted.
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Posted - 2009.07.23 13:40:00 -
[36]
What a frickin' terrible idea.
Good job, CCP. Sigh. |
Maria Kalista
Amarr
Emerald Forest Securities
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Posted - 2009.07.23 13:50:00 -
[37]
Originally by: Intigo
What a frickin' terrible idea.
Good job, CCP. Sigh.
Unfortunately this^.
I think the big inconvenience this wrong move causes towards your customers outweighs the little trouble you lay upon the godawefull spammers. You use chapcha's against bots, not annoying humans.
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Polinus
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2009.07.23 14:06:00 -
[38]
Simple.. chance forum so new threads take 5 minutes to appear. CCP hire 1 thug for 300$ a motnht to press accept to each new thread before they appear and filter this crap.
Will still be cheaper than what they woudl loose with hacked people. |
Emily Spankratchet
Minmatar
Pragmatics
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Posted - 2009.07.23 14:18:00 -
[39]
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh.
The captcha works really well with the auto-logout after a certain amount of time.
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QwaarJet
Gallente
hirr
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.07.23 14:20:00 -
[40]
The lack of auto login is proving to be horrible. |
Adeline Grey
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Posted - 2009.07.23 14:21:00 -
[41]
So now, when I have to login every 5 minutes for whatever reason, not only do I have to login again, but I need to type out my login name, password, and a confirmation thing. Fix your god damn forum login/cookies already. |
Sun Clausewitz
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Posted - 2009.07.23 14:46:00 -
[42]
Originally by: OV Marius
Originally by: CCP Navigator
It should also be noted that automatic login will also be disabled.
That really sucks
I concur |
Shigsy
Neo Spartans
Laconian Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.07.23 14:51:00 -
[43]
Originally by: D Gelalder
So CCP's idea to keep there users safe is to increase the number of times we actually have to type in our account detail? :D
Heh, somewhere this is kinda screwed up.. since we are dealing with keyloggers.
Hahahhahaha, that's hilarious
(typed in my password 3 times to post this) |
RaTTuS
BIG
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.07.23 14:51:00 -
[44]
this is really bugging me now ...
crapta is a PITA
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annoing
Amarr
Mortis Angelus
The Church.
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Posted - 2009.07.23 14:54:00 -
[45]
Damn, I thought this new Capcha was a result of some new security software I installed so I uninstalled it again ... now I have to install it again cos CCP wont let me auto-login .. poo!
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Taua Roqa
Minmatar
Planet Roqa
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Posted - 2009.07.23 15:00:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Durzel
Originally by: Munchees
Why does it have to be pron, too?
I mean can't they just make fake EVE fan sites and such? Nobodies going to click on a link from these forums to a pron site.
I dunno about anyone else but I Google'd "Audrey Bitoni" after seeing it in one of the threads... all I can say is
damn right  |
Dodgy Past
Amarr
Lollipops for Rancors
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Posted - 2009.07.23 15:35:00 -
[47]
Somewhat frustrating to be faced with a capture before any post. Hopefully they'll be putting a bit more effort into fixing the forums. |
Hoo Is
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Posted - 2009.07.23 15:35:00 -
[48]
Originally by: QwaarJet
The lack of auto login is proving to be horrible.
Yes, I enjoy typing my username and password over and over and over and over! Now that's what I call security! |
Lubomir Penev
Dark Nexxus
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Posted - 2009.07.23 16:04:00 -
[49]
Originally by: D Gelalder
So CCP's idea to keep there users safe is to increase the number of times we actually have to type in our account detail? :D
Heh, somewhere this is kinda screwed up.. since we are dealing with keyloggers.
Computer security, from the people who thought remote DD was a balanced game mechanic.
Why this is utterly useless : http://caca.zoy.org/wiki/PWNtcha |
Slade Trillgon
Masuat'aa Matari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.07.23 16:07:00 -
[50]
Originally by: LaVista Vista
Logging in is a 1-time thing.
Hence, it's rather useless.
I seems to have to log in numerous times per session.
Yeah \o/ one more step to that process 
Slade
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voogru
Gallente
Massive Damage
United Corporations Against Macros
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Posted - 2009.07.23 16:09:00 -
[51]
Has anybody noticed a surge in players with gibberish names buying timecodes on the timecode forum? |
Lubomir Penev
Dark Nexxus
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Posted - 2009.07.23 16:11:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Munchees
Obviously this is a case of CYBER TERRORISM and CYBER WARFARE!!!!!!!
What countries are enemies of Iceland?
The one they scammed? Mostly UK and NL afaik... |
Spurty
Caldari
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.07.23 16:15:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Durzel
It wouldn't be so bad if they didn't keep posting the same flat-chested asian bird either.
zoinks, thanks for the heads up, I'm in the Corporate HQ today, don't want that sort of stuff in my browser cache ;0 |
Janice Jankowski
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Posted - 2009.07.23 16:21:00 -
[54]
So, every time that the forums make us relog, CAPTCHA.
hoo ray |
Gunnanmon
Gallente
UNITED STAR SYNDICATE
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Posted - 2009.07.23 16:40:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Mashie Saldana
The only thing I can think of that would work is to put in a timer between creating new threads, say 10 minutes at least.
That would also put an end to the "comedic" antics of one of those ****s that perma-posts new threads for the Thread Count win. |
Armoured C
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2009.07.23 16:58:00 -
[56]
i approve of this
has there been any "visits" today |
TimMc
Gallente
Brutal Deliverance
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Posted - 2009.07.23 17:07:00 -
[57]
So wait what? We complain that forums are broken and we have to login alot, and CCP respond by adding captcha? |
Awesome Possum
Insert Obscure Latin Name
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Posted - 2009.07.23 17:18:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Durzel
Also, bots don't tend to go through the whole process of creating a paid-for account (and actually making a payment for it) before spamming.
/facepalm
They're not. The whole purpose of keyloggers is to gain access to someone's account. They strip all assets from existing characters, create spambot characters, and spam until the account is shut down. |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.07.23 17:24:00 -
[59]
1. Who says there were BOTS doing all of this.
2. THE WORST POSSIBLE CAPTCHA.
3. Use this instead.
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Azirapheal
Amarr
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2009.07.23 17:50:00 -
[60]
logging in isnt a one time thing..... i get logged out at random every 20-30 minutes regardless of activity.... |
Ruzel
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Posted - 2009.07.23 18:08:00 -
[61]
If Captcha actually worked you wouldn't have seen them become increasingly hard for actual humans to read over all the years.
It was a good idea, like, 8 years ago, though. |
Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles
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Posted - 2009.07.23 18:12:00 -
[62]
Current score: keyloggers 2, CCP 0.
The captcha apparently has no effect, other than causing people to type their login details more frequently, as others here have noted. |
Armoured C
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2009.07.23 18:14:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Azirapheal
logging in isnt a one time thing..... i get logged out at random every 20-30 minutes regardless of activity....
huh i stay logged in until i close my browser now matter how long it is open.... and i is open rather a lot:) |
Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.07.23 18:20:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro
Current score: keyloggers 2, CCP 0.
The captcha apparently has no effect, other than causing people to type their login details more frequently, as others here have noted.
Maybe thats the plan. The less people who can be arsed to go through the login the less the chance they will browse the forums and so not get a keylogger. CCP are geniuses. |
Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.07.23 18:21:00 -
[65]
Edited by: Sidus Isaacs on 23/07/2009 18:21:52
I find this whole Captcha **** annoying tbh. I need to log into EVE forum so often (since I get loggen out even if I am afk a few minutes), and with no saved passwords working I have to waste a few second everytime I want to post to type a stupod word in a box :( (I know other forums have, its as annoying there as here).
CCP, are you sure there are no better ways? :(
(And if these guys really are paied accounts posting, there must be a random dude behind it, Captcha will have no effect other then to annoy the regular legit users.) |
Trebor DeCaldar
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.07.23 18:26:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro
Current score: keyloggers 2, CCP 0.
The captcha apparently has no effect, other than causing people to type their login details more frequently, as others here have noted.
Ding ding ding... spam is still here |
Armoured C
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2009.07.23 18:29:00 -
[67]
3:0
and the spammer stick with a significant blow in the defence of the home team , the spammers are all over the field, how will the home team be able to gain posession of the ball |
Agent Known
Apotheosis of Virtue
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Posted - 2009.07.23 18:35:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Trebor DeCaldar
Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro
Current score: keyloggers 2, CCP 0.
The captcha apparently has no effect, other than causing people to type their login details more frequently, as others here have noted.
Ding ding ding... spam is still here
Just reported two of them...
Maybe it's time to enforce restrictions on who can post images/links? Maybe say...a month old? If only people weren't so ...well...carefree and click the links then it wouldn't be a problem, but alas. |
Jaina Proudmoar
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Posted - 2009.07.23 19:36:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Agent Known
Originally by: Trebor DeCaldar
Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro
Current score: keyloggers 2, CCP 0.
The captcha apparently has no effect, other than causing people to type their login details more frequently, as others here have noted.
Ding ding ding... spam is still here
Just reported two of them...
Maybe it's time to enforce restrictions on who can post images/links? Maybe say...a month old? If only people weren't so ...well...carefree and click the links then it wouldn't be a problem, but alas.
Allow only people in player corps to post, allow NPC corp members to only post in EVE New Citizens Q&A. All fixed.
We would however lose out on Armoured C's posts. :( |
xBLACKNOVAx
Black Nova Investments
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Posted - 2009.07.23 19:41:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Jaina Proudmoar
Originally by: Agent Known
Originally by: Trebor DeCaldar
Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro
Current score: keyloggers 2, CCP 0.
The captcha apparently has no effect, other than causing people to type their login details more frequently, as others here have noted.
Ding ding ding... spam is still here
Just reported two of them...
Maybe it's time to enforce restrictions on who can post images/links? Maybe say...a month old? If only people weren't so ...well...carefree and click the links then it wouldn't be a problem, but alas.
Allow only people in player corps to post, allow NPC corp members to only post in EVE New Citizens Q&A. All fixed.
We would however lose out on Armoured C's posts. :(
So the spammers create a character, buy Corporation Management skillbook and make a corporation, the hardest part for them would be to get the isk to make a corp but if they are ademant(spelling?) on posting on forums they will make the needed isk. So would just slow them down. |
Meridius Dex
Amarr
Gunship Diplomacy
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Posted - 2009.07.23 19:45:00 -
[71]
What an unbelievable PITA. It's one thing to have to log in this way, but another that the #$@%ing forums don't cookie you to remember your login -- so you have to do it manually each goddamn time you come back to the forums.
Nice one, guys. |
Durzel
The Xenodus Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.07.24 11:10:00 -
[72]
Edited by: Durzel on 24/07/2009 11:10:42
Originally by: Awesome Possum
Originally by: Durzel
Also, bots don't tend to go through the whole process of creating a paid-for account (and actually making a payment for it) before spamming.
/facepalm
They're not. The whole purpose of keyloggers is to gain access to someone's account. They strip all assets from existing characters, create spambot characters, and spam until the account is shut down.
No **** sherlock, I'm well aware of what keyloggers are designed to do.
What I'm saying is that bots are generally designed to attack weak installations of popular (as in hundreds & thousands of sites using it) forum software like phpBB, vBulletin, Snitz, etc.
If it were bots (i.e. automated processes) attacking these forums then they would've had to have been written specficially to attack these bespoke forums. Comprende?
Also the fact the CAPTCHA has failed to stop them is further proof that someone is actually posting these things manually. It's not that hard to join the dots.
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Robert Caldera
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Posted - 2009.07.24 11:13:00 -
[73]
no captchas anymore?
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Snasty
Caldari
The Hippies
House of Mercury
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Posted - 2009.07.24 11:21:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Robert Caldera
no captchas anymore?
Yup: - http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1126433
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-=Snasty, short for Shagnasty ever since the GM's in SWG made me change it...!=- |
Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.07.24 11:40:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Durzel
It wouldn't be so bad if they didn't keep posting the same flat-chested asian bird either.
one has to take a mountain hike before one can truly appreciate the countryside
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CCP Navigator
C C P
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Posted - 2009.07.24 11:56:00 -
[76]
Hey guys,
Since the Captcha has been removed we can close his thread now :)
Navigator
Senior Community Representative
CCP Hf, EVE Online
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