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Smooth Sherbert
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Posted - 2004.10.01 02:55:00 -
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late last night i was parusing ( yes its a word, maybe spelled wrong but meh) skills on the market when low and behold i saw: Heavy Assault Ships. "WTF" ( but fully pronouced) i exclaimed.
giddy as a school girl i went to see if stats for these new ships were on the market. and they were. and holy moly. the new maller called the 'Sacralidge' has the hardest armor ive ever seen. the lowest is 60% slap on one energized adaptive II and you boost the resists to all over 75%...rediculous.
the new Caracal, called a Cerberus ( yay greeks) has still 5 launchers..but 5 med and 4low. and +10% light and heavy missile flight time and +5% rof for launchers. wow. beefed up HP too.
each crusier is as deadly..well maybe not to much the ishtar but most of them are. but im worried. first $$$$$ for people raping the market for all its worth. and availability. dang. these ships will add a whole new dimetion to combat, but i fear price and skill reqs will hinder their use sevearly.
dear ship builders, be friendly to us and dont kill our wallets.
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Smooth Sherbert
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Posted - 2004.10.01 02:55:00 -
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late last night i was parusing ( yes its a word, maybe spelled wrong but meh) skills on the market when low and behold i saw: Heavy Assault Ships. "WTF" ( but fully pronouced) i exclaimed.
giddy as a school girl i went to see if stats for these new ships were on the market. and they were. and holy moly. the new maller called the 'Sacralidge' has the hardest armor ive ever seen. the lowest is 60% slap on one energized adaptive II and you boost the resists to all over 75%...rediculous.
the new Caracal, called a Cerberus ( yay greeks) has still 5 launchers..but 5 med and 4low. and +10% light and heavy missile flight time and +5% rof for launchers. wow. beefed up HP too.
each crusier is as deadly..well maybe not to much the ishtar but most of them are. but im worried. first $$$$$ for people raping the market for all its worth. and availability. dang. these ships will add a whole new dimetion to combat, but i fear price and skill reqs will hinder their use sevearly.
dear ship builders, be friendly to us and dont kill our wallets.
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Rocknab
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Posted - 2004.10.01 03:43:00 -
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 Originally by: Smooth Sherbert
the lowest is 60% slap on one energized adaptive II and you boost the resists to all over 75%...rediculous.
not quite correct...
The Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II provides a +20% bonus to resists... the key is that % sign... It adds an aditional 20% to the already 60% off.
60%+(1+20%)=72%
.6*(1+.2)=.72
or, if you want to look at the unit itself, 60%*20%=12%
So the unit provides a 12% bonus in that damage type.
It's not a stight up addition issue.
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Rocknab
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Posted - 2004.10.01 03:43:00 -
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Originally by: Smooth Sherbert
the lowest is 60% slap on one energized adaptive II and you boost the resists to all over 75%...rediculous.
not quite correct...
The Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II provides a +20% bonus to resists... the key is that % sign... It adds an aditional 20% to the already 60% off.
60%+(1+20%)=72%
.6*(1+.2)=.72
or, if you want to look at the unit itself, 60%*20%=12%
So the unit provides a 12% bonus in that damage type.
It's not a stight up addition issue.
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Necrologic
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Posted - 2004.10.01 04:22:00 -
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Yeah, lots of discussion of these latly. Lots of threads on em in Ship and Modules forum.
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Necrologic
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Posted - 2004.10.01 04:22:00 -
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Yeah, lots of discussion of these latly. Lots of threads on em in Ship and Modules forum.
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Aelius
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Posted - 2004.10.01 07:24:00 -
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Wait until you see tech2 BS... My research department is working in launching one soonTM 
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Aelius
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Posted - 2004.10.01 07:24:00 -
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Wait until you see tech2 BS... My research department is working in launching one soonTM
Selling Raven BPC ME20 3M at Yulai 1st Station |
Avon
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Posted - 2004.10.01 07:51:00 -
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Originally by: Rocknab
Originally by: Smooth Sherbert
the lowest is 60% slap on one energized adaptive II and you boost the resists to all over 75%...rediculous.
not quite correct...
The Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II provides a +20% bonus to resists... the key is that % sign... It adds an aditional 20% to the already 60% off.
60%+(1+20%)=72%
.6*(1+.2)=.72
or, if you want to look at the unit itself, 60%*20%=12%
So the unit provides a 12% bonus in that damage type.
It's not a stight up addition issue.
Doesn't the calculation work on the difference between maximum resistance and your current resistance?
Your calculation would give 0 boost to a 0% resistance.
For an existing resist of 60% isn't it 60+((100-60)*0.2), 68%?
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Avon
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Posted - 2004.10.01 07:51:00 -
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Originally by: Rocknab
Originally by: Smooth Sherbert
the lowest is 60% slap on one energized adaptive II and you boost the resists to all over 75%...rediculous.
not quite correct...
The Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II provides a +20% bonus to resists... the key is that % sign... It adds an aditional 20% to the already 60% off.
60%+(1+20%)=72%
.6*(1+.2)=.72
or, if you want to look at the unit itself, 60%*20%=12%
So the unit provides a 12% bonus in that damage type.
It's not a stight up addition issue.
Doesn't the calculation work on the difference between maximum resistance and your current resistance?
Your calculation would give 0 boost to a 0% resistance.
For an existing resist of 60% isn't it 60+((100-60)*0.2), 68%?
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They will just drag it down to their level, and then beat you through experience. |
meowcat
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Posted - 2004.10.01 08:41:00 -
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Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Rocknab
Originally by: Smooth Sherbert
the lowest is 60% slap on one energized adaptive II and you boost the resists to all over 75%...rediculous.
not quite correct...
The Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II provides a +20% bonus to resists... the key is that % sign... It adds an aditional 20% to the already 60% off.
60%+(1+20%)=72%
.6*(1+.2)=.72
or, if you want to look at the unit itself, 60%*20%=12%
So the unit provides a 12% bonus in that damage type.
It's not a stight up addition issue.
Doesn't the calculation work on the difference between maximum resistance and your current resistance?
Your calculation would give 0 boost to a 0% resistance.
For an existing resist of 60% isn't it 60+((100-60)*0.2), 68%?
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meowcat
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Posted - 2004.10.01 08:41:00 -
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Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Rocknab
Originally by: Smooth Sherbert
the lowest is 60% slap on one energized adaptive II and you boost the resists to all over 75%...rediculous.
not quite correct...
The Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II provides a +20% bonus to resists... the key is that % sign... It adds an aditional 20% to the already 60% off.
60%+(1+20%)=72%
.6*(1+.2)=.72
or, if you want to look at the unit itself, 60%*20%=12%
So the unit provides a 12% bonus in that damage type.
It's not a stight up addition issue.
Doesn't the calculation work on the difference between maximum resistance and your current resistance?
Your calculation would give 0 boost to a 0% resistance.
For an existing resist of 60% isn't it 60+((100-60)*0.2), 68%?
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F'nog
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Posted - 2004.10.01 09:04:00 -
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The first one works normally, so you just take that at face value. That formula only works with added resistances beyond the non-zero base or first mod.
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F'nog
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Posted - 2004.10.01 09:04:00 -
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The first one works normally, so you just take that at face value. That formula only works with added resistances beyond the non-zero base or first mod.
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Avon
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Posted - 2004.10.01 09:14:00 -
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Originally by: F'nog
The first one works normally, so you just take that at face value. That formula only works with added resistances beyond the non-zero base or first mod.
Nah, I'm pretty sure mine is right.
Anyway, anyone want to buy a Shadow Serpentis Energised Adaptive Nano Membrane? 20% to all armour resists. Tech2 protection but with tech1 skill and fitting requirements.
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They will just drag it down to their level, and then beat you through experience. |
Avon
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Posted - 2004.10.01 09:14:00 -
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Originally by: F'nog
The first one works normally, so you just take that at face value. That formula only works with added resistances beyond the non-zero base or first mod.
Nah, I'm pretty sure mine is right.
Anyway, anyone want to buy a Shadow Serpentis Energised Adaptive Nano Membrane? 20% to all armour resists. Tech2 protection but with tech1 skill and fitting requirements.
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Never argue with idiots.
They will just drag it down to their level, and then beat you through experience. |
Sybylle
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Posted - 2004.10.01 09:34:00 -
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BTW, its name is "Sacrilege".
I'm training my skills to get it...
I've still to get the heavy assault ship skill (35 millions) and to train assault ship to lvl 4 (which won't take a lot of time anyway).
This ship gonna rock a lot ^^
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Sybylle
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Posted - 2004.10.01 09:34:00 -
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BTW, its name is "Sacrilege".
I'm training my skills to get it...
I've still to get the heavy assault ship skill (35 millions) and to train assault ship to lvl 4 (which won't take a lot of time anyway).
This ship gonna rock a lot ^^
(\_/)
(O.o)
(> <)=Oveur (proof)
"Jumping 50 systems I can like, have sex 150 times during that period" |
Koda
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Posted - 2004.10.01 13:17:00 -
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For once I've trained skills in the right direction in getting Assault Ship. These new cruisers look sweet. 
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Koda
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Posted - 2004.10.01 13:17:00 -
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For once I've trained skills in the right direction in getting Assault Ship. These new cruisers look sweet.
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Harcole
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Posted - 2004.10.01 13:28:00 -
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Edited by: Harcole on 01/10/2004 13:31:08
Originally by: Smooth Sherbert
...each crusier is as deadly..well maybe not to much the ishtar but most of them are. but im worried. first $$$$$ for people raping the market for all its worth. and availability. dang. these ships will add a whole new dimetion to combat, but i fear price and skill reqs will hinder their use sevearly.
dear ship builders, be friendly to us and dont kill our wallets.
Actually the Ishtar is going to be the worst one to deal with... a maximum of 5000m/3 of drone space a potential maximum of 15 drones all of which will have a range of over 50km, both scout and heavy's, meaning scout drones (should?) work from even further out.
As for the skills I'm there bar Crusier level 5 Roll on a ship for me!!!
Edit: PS now looking for a new Vengeance Class Assualt Frigate convo/eve-mail me in game with costs... 
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Harcole
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Posted - 2004.10.01 13:28:00 -
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Edited by: Harcole on 01/10/2004 13:31:08
Originally by: Smooth Sherbert
...each crusier is as deadly..well maybe not to much the ishtar but most of them are. but im worried. first $$$$$ for people raping the market for all its worth. and availability. dang. these ships will add a whole new dimetion to combat, but i fear price and skill reqs will hinder their use sevearly.
dear ship builders, be friendly to us and dont kill our wallets.
Actually the Ishtar is going to be the worst one to deal with... a maximum of 5000m/3 of drone space a potential maximum of 15 drones all of which will have a range of over 50km, both scout and heavy's, meaning scout drones (should?) work from even further out.
As for the skills I'm there bar Crusier level 5 Roll on a ship for me!!!
Edit: PS now looking for a new Vengeance Class Assualt Frigate convo/eve-mail me in game with costs...
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Jernau Gurgeh
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Posted - 2004.10.01 14:15:00 -
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Of course, the Sacrilege also has 5% damage resistance per level of Amarr Cruiser skill.
All in all, a tough nut to *****.
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Jernau Gurgeh
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Posted - 2004.10.01 14:15:00 -
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Of course, the Sacrilege also has 5% damage resistance per level of Amarr Cruiser skill.
All in all, a tough nut to *****.
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Admiral IceBlock
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Posted - 2004.10.01 14:53:00 -
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the Heavy Assualt ships probably deals more damage then a lone scorpion does? 
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Admiral IceBlock
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Posted - 2004.10.01 14:53:00 -
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the Heavy Assualt ships probably deals more damage then a lone scorpion does?
"We brake for nobody"
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Harcole
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Posted - 2004.10.01 14:53:00 -
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Originally by: Jernau Gurgeh
Of course, the Sacrilege also has 5% damage resistance per level of Amarr Cruiser skill.
All in all, a tough nut to *****.
Which means it is 25% bonus as you must have crusier level 5 as pre-req skill 
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Harcole
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Posted - 2004.10.01 14:53:00 -
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Originally by: Jernau Gurgeh
Of course, the Sacrilege also has 5% damage resistance per level of Amarr Cruiser skill.
All in all, a tough nut to *****.
Which means it is 25% bonus as you must have crusier level 5 as pre-req skill
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Harcole
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Posted - 2004.10.01 14:59:00 -
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I don't think so its just a lot harder than a normal cursier, possible to compare to a tier 1 BS in hardness but not damage
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Harcole
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Posted - 2004.10.01 14:59:00 -
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I don't think so its just a lot harder than a normal cursier, possible to compare to a tier 1 BS in hardness but not damage
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