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Mira Aelira
Merkhan Industries Rebel Alliance of New Eden
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Posted - 2012.05.24 14:56:00 -
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The new inventory system, is clearly, a lot different from our old one. I did prefer the old one myself, too, but this is what we have now, so let us make the best with it, instead of yelling and whining about it all the time. There's a few tips and tricks that we can use to make management of our inventories a bit easier. Let me tell you some of them, that I use.
1. You can shift+click the tabs, to open them in a new window Example
2. In order to select multiple items you can ctrl+click the specific items Example
3. You can do the same with shift+click Example
4. You can drag and drop, items on other tabs (Including your multiple item selections) Example
Don't do anything silly, such as un-subbing, because of the inventory system alone. Use it the best way we can, and notify CCP in the proper manner. They listened to us with the ship spinning, and they obviously do care about us. Relax, sit back and enjoy the game.
Side note: No I don't manage a POS in w-space or a complex hangar system, but hopefully this can help a lot.
Fly safe
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Fabulousli Obvious
State War Academy Caldari State
245
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Posted - 2012.05.24 15:03:00 -
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Mira Aelira wrote:The new inventory system, is clearly, a lot different from our old one. I did prefer the old one myself, too, but this is what we have now, so let us make the best with it, instead of yelling and whining about it all the time. There's a few tips and tricks that we can use to make management of our inventories a bit easier. Let me tell you some of them, that I use. 1. You can shift+click the tabs, to open them in a new window Example2. In order to select multiple items you can ctrl+click the specific items Example3. You can do the same with shift+click Example4. You can drag and drop, items on other tabs (Including your multiple item selections) ExampleDon't do anything silly, such as un-subbing, because of the inventory system alone. Use it the best way we can, and notify CCP in the proper manner. They listened to us with the ship spinning, and they obviously do care about us. Relax, sit back and enjoy the game. Side note: No I don't manage a POS in w-space or a complex hangar system, but hopefully this can help a lot. Fly safe
That's all fine and dandy, maam, but WHY ARE WE EVEN HAVING TO CONDUCT CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS ???? I think that God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability. In all matters of opinion, our adversaries are insane. ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900 |

Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
1306
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Posted - 2012.05.24 15:06:00 -
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so I have to click twice as much now
got a fix for that? The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |

Mira Aelira
Merkhan Industries Rebel Alliance of New Eden
1
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Posted - 2012.05.24 15:13:00 -
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I'm merely providing a solution for open-minded players. |

Twulf
The Konvergent League Sanctuary Pact
69
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Posted - 2012.05.24 15:15:00 -
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Another example of CCP "Fixing" something that was never broken to start wtih and leaving all the really broken things alone. |

Savage Angel
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
46
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Posted - 2012.05.24 15:21:00 -
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Mira Aelira wrote:The new inventory system, is clearly, a lot different from our old one. I did prefer the old one myself, too, but this is what we have now, so let us make the best with it, instead of yelling and whining about it all the time. There's a few tips and tricks that we can use to make management of our inventories a bit easier. Let me tell you some of them, that I use. 1. You can shift+click the tabs, to open them in a new window Example2. In order to select multiple items you can ctrl+click the specific items Example3. You can do the same with shift+click Example4. You can drag and drop, items on other tabs (Including your multiple item selections) ExampleDon't do anything silly, such as un-subbing, because of the inventory system alone. Use it the best way we can, and notify CCP in the proper manner. They listened to us with the ship spinning, and they obviously do care about us. Relax, sit back and enjoy the game. Side note: No I don't manage a POS in w-space or a complex hangar system, but hopefully this can help a lot. Fly safe
You could ctl-click, shift-click, and drag and drop items already with the old system.
Edit: Oh, and don't forget you could always Ctl A to select all items in a container. |

Mira Aelira
Merkhan Industries Rebel Alliance of New Eden
1
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Posted - 2012.05.24 15:23:00 -
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Savage Angel wrote:
You could ctl-click, shift-click, and drag and drop items already with the old system.
I know that. I did use the old inventory system too, you know.
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Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
313
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Posted - 2012.05.24 15:23:00 -
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Mira Aelira wrote:I'm merely providing a solution for open-minded players. You know, I wouldn't have half as much of a problem with the new system if the ******* tree-view in-station remembered how ******* big I set it between windows closing/opening.
In fact, that's one of the biggest gripes I've seen with this new system: it's worse than an Alzheimer's patient.
Once CCP fixes that, a good majority of us will be well on our way to being "open-minded" about this ****. Nothing Found |

Savage Angel
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
46
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Posted - 2012.05.24 15:24:00 -
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Mira Aelira wrote:Savage Angel wrote:
You could ctl-click, shift-click, and drag and drop items already with the old system.
I know that. I did use the old inventory system too, you know.
Then what does it have to do with helping with the new system when it isn't new? |

Haulie Berry
112
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Posted - 2012.05.24 15:24:00 -
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It still needs further refinement, but I'm pretty sure all of these tears are more about something that people were used to having changed, rather than any objective inferiority of new system.
If this had been the inventory system all along, and in this last patch they implemented the old system as a new one, I bet the crying would be every bit as loud, if not louder. |

Fabulousli Obvious
State War Academy Caldari State
245
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Posted - 2012.05.24 15:27:00 -
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Mira Aelira wrote:I'm merely providing a solution for open-minded players.
You are confusing open-minded with sheep behavior. I think that God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability. In all matters of opinion, our adversaries are insane. ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900 |

Mira Aelira
Merkhan Industries Rebel Alliance of New Eden
1
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Posted - 2012.05.24 15:29:00 -
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Fabulousli Obvious wrote:Mira Aelira wrote:I'm merely providing a solution for open-minded players. You are confusing open-minded with sheep behavior.
No, I am just trying to enjoy the game, without raging at everything. |

Fabulousli Obvious
State War Academy Caldari State
245
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Posted - 2012.05.24 15:29:00 -
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Haulie Berry wrote:It still needs further refinement, but I'm pretty sure all of these tears are more about something that people were used to having changed, rather than any objective inferiority of new system.
If this had been the inventory system all along, and in this last patch they implemented the old system as a new one, I bet the crying would be every bit as loud, if not louder.
This is just so wrong here I can't even lay into it. I think that God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability. In all matters of opinion, our adversaries are insane. ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900 |

MadMuppet
Kerguelen Station
396
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Posted - 2012.05.24 15:29:00 -
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Mira Aelira wrote:I'm merely providing a solution for open-minded players.
Technically you are providing a partial work-around to address what people would call a 'known issue'. Dropping an veiled insult isn't good for your case though.
Window types, or what we all refer to as types (hangar, items, cargo bay, wreck, etc), have been lumped together as 'one item' yet they are all being governed by rules that makes each of them unique and that is a major headache. The only work around' that CCP employed to fix that headache was to force a larger number of clicks and more work for the player. The fact that it takes more work to provide the same level of functionality as before is not good design.
I think the trees and filters are great, but they should be separate from the cargo windows if the player chooses. I think that some sort of window state memory is critical to this whole situation calming down. Basic things like POS support and mission looting have been turned in to a major mess. People that have any substantial amount of 'stuff' in a station are seeing noticeable lag when trying to operate.
Microsoft makes sure that you can do a basic function three ways. CCP makes sure that you can only do it one way, even if it means getting rid of the other ways all together. The upside of this is that, if they can simplify the UI enough, they can port it to the PS3 eventually. |

Mira Aelira
Merkhan Industries Rebel Alliance of New Eden
1
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Posted - 2012.05.24 15:31:00 -
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Savage Angel wrote:Mira Aelira wrote:Savage Angel wrote:
You could ctl-click, shift-click, and drag and drop items already with the old system.
I know that. I did use the old inventory system too, you know. Then what does it have to do with helping with the new system when it isn't new?
I'm making players aware that they can use their inventory in that way. Sure it isn't new, but every player might not have known about. As I said, I do prefer the old system myself, but I'm just trying to survive with the new one, instead of hating it. That was the point, to help out others to survive with it, atleast till CCP listens.
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Fabulousli Obvious
State War Academy Caldari State
245
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Posted - 2012.05.24 15:32:00 -
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They have essentially destroyed a KEY part of EVERYONE'S Operational Methods in the game. Astonishing.
"My God ! It's Full of Awful !" I think that God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability. In all matters of opinion, our adversaries are insane. ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900 |

Mira Aelira
Merkhan Industries Rebel Alliance of New Eden
1
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Posted - 2012.05.24 15:33:00 -
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MadMuppet wrote:Mira Aelira wrote:I'm merely providing a solution for open-minded players. Technically you are providing a partial work-around to address what people would call a 'known issue'. Dropping an veiled insult isn't good for your case though. Window types, or what we all refer to as types (hangar, items, cargo bay, wreck, etc), have been lumped together as 'one item' yet they are all being governed by rules that makes each of them unique and that is a major headache. The only work around' that CCP employed to fix that headache was to force a larger number of clicks and more work for the player. The fact that it takes more work to provide the same level of functionality as before is not good design. I think the trees and filters are great, but they should be separate from the cargo windows if the player chooses. I think that some sort of window state memory is critical to this whole situation calming down. Basic things like POS support and mission looting have been turned in to a major mess. People that have any substantial amount of 'stuff' in a station are seeing noticeable lag when trying to operate.
I 100% agree with you. |

Darion Amador
Nice Peace
14
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Posted - 2012.05.24 15:41:00 -
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Pay no mind to these twats. They are nothing but pedantic ego projectors working 24/7 to make others feel bad to justify their own pathetic existence.  |

Hans Momaki
State War Academy Caldari State
19
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Posted - 2012.05.24 15:46:00 -
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I have quitted 3 accs to the nearest date, just because they implemented this inventory instead of balancing SPACESHIPS.
I don't care that it looks pretty nice, but with 600+ (?) employes, there should be enough manpower to fix broken things. Instead, they made this crap. Ty for nothing CCP. |

Gealbhan
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
147
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Posted - 2012.05.24 15:53:00 -
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I don't see what the problem is, honestly. I adapted and got used to the new system within seconds now I don't even notice the change it's business as usual. I actually find it quite easy to use and, yes, I like it.  |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
7249
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Posted - 2012.05.24 15:55:00 -
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Nope. None of those things solve the actual problems with the UI. They just let you do the same thing, but far less efficiently and without the ability to maintain a good overview of your complete inventory. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Shift-click does nothing GÇö why the Unified Inventory isn't ready for primetime. |

March rabbit
Trojan Trolls Red Alliance
178
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Posted - 2012.05.24 16:05:00 -
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Fabulousli Obvious wrote:They have essentially destroyed a KEY part of EVERYONE'S Operational Methods in the game. Astonishing.
"My God ! It's Full of Awful !" you already unsubbed didn't you? if not - HTFU |

Ra Doma
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.05.24 16:15:00 -
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I wouldn't mind the new inventory so much if it wasn't so slow. Many times i finish salvaging a wreck before the contents load. running multiple couriers? good luck completing them quickly. takes longer to load the cargo full of couriers than it takes to jump the JF multiple waypoints.
If it was fast there would be no problem for me. but its not. |

Fabulousli Obvious
State War Academy Caldari State
254
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Posted - 2012.05.24 16:20:00 -
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March rabbit wrote:Fabulousli Obvious wrote:They have essentially destroyed a KEY part of EVERYONE'S Operational Methods in the game. Astonishing.
"My God ! It's Full of Awful !" you already unsubbed didn't you? if not - HTFU
4 week countdown. If you don't like the fact I can post while unsubbing, then address the issue to CCP as to why things can't be immediately halted. Don't cry to me. I think that God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability. In all matters of opinion, our adversaries are insane. ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900 |

looMin uS
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
10
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Posted - 2012.05.24 16:24:00 -
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Makes no sense what-so-ever to have to click +2 more times in this new Window UI for the same functionality in the old window UI.
Add those clicks up and you'll = twice the work for a system that was'nt broken to begin with... or did i miss the threads where people were complaining about the hangar functions?
Terrible Idea. |

Andemnon Kohort
Protagonists Of Doom
17
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Posted - 2012.05.24 16:31:00 -
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looMin uS wrote:Makes no sense what-so-ever to have to click +2 more times in this new Window UI for the same functionality in the old window UI.
Add those clicks up and you'll = twice the work for a system that was'nt broken to begin with... or did i miss the threads where people were complaining about the hangar functions?
Terrible Idea.
Try mining into a jetcan... i can only think that CCP wants people to stop mining, maybe we were earning too much money so this is just a precursor to getting rid of all those pesky asteroid belts.
then i had another idea, are they trying to make the Eve client console friendly ? If the PC playerbase isnt enough for them, maybe their going to have a gamble on making a ps3 client for Eve and garnering a bigger (better ?) playerbase from there instead..  |

beast will Fehrnah
Viziam Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2012.05.24 21:00:00 -
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i have to say shift clik does nothing and find the new inventory very nonuser friendly does anyone know if ccp is going to keep on trying to push this on us ? or are they goin to change back to the old system. maybe im not the most productive player in eve but i find the new inventory hampers everything i try to do with its complications and bulk. i did like the prices with the hover till i realized they were not the most accurate for my local so even that was useless to me more or less and the time it took for it to load each time i looted a rat was irritating and very time consuming. atm i dread goin out to salvage a mission in my noc :( |

alittlebirdy
All Hail The Liopleurodon
10
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Posted - 2012.05.24 21:11:00 -
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What you do not understand OP is if you really want to help GET THE OLD ONE BACK... unsub and under reason put UI =D
CCP has to make money mass unsubs = change it back OR give the option. |

Rath Kelbore
The Six-Pack Syndicate
200
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Posted - 2012.05.24 21:24:00 -
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MadMuppet wrote:Mira Aelira wrote:I'm merely providing a solution for open-minded players. Technically you are providing a partial work-around to address what people would call a 'known issue'. Dropping an veiled insult isn't good for your case though. Window types, or what we all refer to as types (hangar, items, cargo bay, wreck, etc), have been lumped together as 'one item' yet they are all being governed by rules that makes each of them unique and that is a major headache. The only work around' that CCP employed to fix that headache was to force a larger number of clicks and more work for the player. The fact that it takes more work to provide the same level of functionality as before is not good design. I think the trees and filters are great, but they should be separate from the cargo windows if the player chooses. I think that some sort of window state memory is critical to this whole situation calming down. Basic things like POS support and mission looting have been turned in to a major mess. People that have any substantial amount of 'stuff' in a station are seeing noticeable lag when trying to operate.
I don't get it honestly. I use a POS and even loot some missions. I have no issues with the new inventory system. Tree is on the left, stuff is on the right. It's easy. I like it better than the old one.
Without me having to actually read anything, what specific issues are people having with the new system? Moving stuff from where to where? I plan on living forever.......so far, so good. |

Copy Katt
Squaredeal Enterprises The Bedouin
17
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Posted - 2012.05.24 21:34:00 -
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I really would like somebody at CCP to explain why they thought the old UI was so horrible that it had to be ripped out and replaced with a new one when they were told by test server users that it was a big bag of fail. |
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