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LadyOfWrath
Caldari
One Stop Mining Shop
One Stop Research
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Posted - 2009.07.26 19:34:00 -
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As I have discussed many times in my IPO thread we are now in a testing phase with the EvE-Trade stock exchange. This application is almost ready for deployment, however we want to let some people in to see what we have done and test the abilities of the exchange. This will provide essential feedback for us and help to create a better exchange.
EvE-Trade is not simply a stock exchange, it is designed to completely replace the current in game share system which we all know has never been the greatest. EvE Trade allows a CEO to create and manage virtual shares within the exchange and also pay dividends through the same entity. Reports can be uploaded by IPO managers and our own auditors to provide snap shots of any IPO or stocks currently available through the exchange.
EvE-Trade is in no way a bank. Although we have some of the same functionality as far as account creation is concerned that is where it ends. We hope over the next few years to revolutionize the meta game and finally shed a light to the world of stocks.
This thread is intended to be available for feedback from both beta testers and those who want to ask questions about the upcoming exchange.
Sincerely,
LadyOfWrath
EvE-Trade - Chairman of the Board
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Riethe
Invictus Sovereignty
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Posted - 2009.07.26 19:43:00 -
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Call it New Eden Security Exchange Commission (NESEC) instead. |
Weltact
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Posted - 2009.07.26 19:44:00 -
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 Originally by: Riethe
Call it New Eden Security Exchange Commission (NESEC) instead.
Win.
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LadyOfWrath
Caldari
One Stop Mining Shop
One Stop Research
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Posted - 2009.07.26 19:48:00 -
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If only i would of though of that sooner!
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Sophie Daigneau
CAPITAL Assistance in Destruction Society
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.07.26 19:49:00 -
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From a CEO's perspective, here are the first thoughts that jump into my head.
1. Without in-game shares, it'll be a pain to divide and distribute dividends to a large number of players.
2. This additional effort required would naturally need some sort of compensation, what will the fee structure look like to fund the operation?
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LadyOfWrath
Caldari
One Stop Mining Shop
One Stop Research
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Posted - 2009.07.26 19:58:00 -
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Edited by: LadyOfWrath on 26/07/2009 19:59:22
The application also incorporates the in game share system, however due to the volatility of those shares (ability to be player traded without our knowledge) it makes it impossible for us to provide the dividend feature.
Very small fees will be associated listing sell orders and buy orders. Corporations will not be charged to list their stocks through the exchange itself as that is counterproductive.
In order for a player to purchase stocks from the exchange they must have an exchange account so this means when dividends are paid they are simply deducted from the CEO's account and credited to the shareholder accounts. Shareholders may then request withdrawals normally.
The main objective here is to provide a much needed and reliable service to the EvE community.
Edited for spelling
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Roquezir
Minmatar
Dark Fusion Fleet
One Stop Research
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Posted - 2009.07.26 20:05:00 -
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Originally by: Sophie Daigneau
From a CEO's perspective, here are the first thoughts that jump into my head.
1. Without in-game shares, it'll be a pain to divide and distribute dividends to a large number of players.
2. This additional effort required would naturally need some sort of compensation, what will the fee structure look like to fund the operation?
As the developer and operator of EVE-Trade, let me remark on the following:
1. As LadyOfWrath indicated, in-game shares will be supported. However, because in-game shares can be traded in the wild-West of EVE-Online, beyond the bounds of EVE-Trade, less transparency will be available for "EVE-Online EVE-Trade Managed Stocks" -- our take on managing in-game stocks outside of EVE-Online.
2. We are still working out the fee structures to which end potential user feedback is valuable. Again, as LoW indicated, we are considering per-order fees. Another possibility, aping E*Trade, would be discounts for volume traders.
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Hexxx
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.07.26 20:22:00 -
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You're dancing around it so I'll ask; will you be supporting virtualized shares? Shares that have no physical existence in the game?
EBANK - Advisor | www.eve-bank.net
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LadyOfWrath
Caldari
One Stop Mining Shop
One Stop Research
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Posted - 2009.07.26 20:54:00 -
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@ Hexxx - Yes this exchange fully supports virtual shares and is in fact specifically designed to utilize them to the fullest. Incorporating existing in game stocks is also available.
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Ji Sama
Caldari
Tash-Murkon Prime Industries
Sex Drugs And Rock'N'Roll
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Posted - 2009.07.26 20:57:00 -
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signing up for beta
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Reginald Rartan
More Money Ltd
Neutrino Technologies
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Posted - 2009.07.26 20:59:00 -
[11]
Signing up for beta testing
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DiiJay
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Posted - 2009.07.26 22:05:00 -
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Im signing up for the Beta
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Roquezir
Minmatar
Dark Fusion Fleet
One Stop Research
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Posted - 2009.07.26 23:58:00 -
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Originally by: Hexxx
You're dancing around it so I'll ask; will you be supporting virtualized shares? Shares that have no physical existence in the game?
We will not only be supporting "virtualized shares" but we will be strongly encouraging them.
When I say "virtualized shares", for clarity's sake, I am referring to shares of IPOs/individual bonds that exist on and only within EVE-Trade and have no counterpart within the EVE-Online game itself. I refer to these as "fully managed shares" as their existence is fully managed within the EVE-Trade application.
Such fully managed shares provide the benefit of more control and transparency to investors and, therefore, are lower risk investments than in-game shares that are more difficult to monitor and control and broker from outside EVE-Online with the existing API.
That which reduces risk for our customers is good and therefore receives my full support.
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Amarr Citizen 155
Alternative Methods Research Group
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Posted - 2009.07.27 01:26:00 -
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Originally by: Roquezir
Originally by: Hexxx
You're dancing around it so I'll ask; will you be supporting virtualized shares? Shares that have no physical existence in the game?
We will not only be supporting "virtualized shares" but we will be strongly encouraging them.
When I say "virtualized shares", for clarity's sake, I am referring to shares of IPOs/individual bonds that exist on and only within EVE-Trade and have no counterpart within the EVE-Online game itself. I refer to these as "fully managed shares" as their existence is fully managed within the EVE-Trade application.
Such fully managed shares provide the benefit of more control and transparency to investors and, therefore, are lower risk investments than in-game shares that are more difficult to monitor and control and broker from outside EVE-Online with the existing API.
That which reduces risk for our customers is good and therefore receives my full support.
Sorry but who are you? Do you have an alt I know of or have we ever met? Not trying to stir up anything with this question I just noticed you're an exclamation mark and I've never heard of you yet you are working with LoW and I've heard of him a bit:p
Just wondering if I should consider you as an unknown and start your personal record with me or if I can tie you to someone I already know. Feel free to respond in-game as well if you prefer.
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Yarinor
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Posted - 2009.07.27 01:29:00 -
[15]
applying for beta :)
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Carrie Mehome
Misfitz Brigade
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Posted - 2009.07.27 01:35:00 -
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I also would like to apply to be apart of the Beta Testing.
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LadyOfWrath
Caldari
One Stop Mining Shop
One Stop Research
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Posted - 2009.07.27 01:36:00 -
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@ AC155 - He is my primary coder behind the project and is rather new to EvE itself. He is within his own rights to answer questions regarding the technical side of the exchange with my permission. Due to my schedule I can't respond to every single reply here so he can easily answer some of the more basic questions regarding the functions of the exchange.
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Nemesis Valerii
Divine Retribution Inc
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Posted - 2009.07.27 01:47:00 -
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Originally by: Roquezir One Stop Research
As the developer and operator of EVE-Trade, let me remark...
... That which reduces risk for our customers is good and therefore receives my full support
Originally by: Amarr Citizen 155
Sorry but who are you? Do you have an alt I know of or have we ever met? Not trying to stir up anything with this question I just noticed you're an exclamation mark and I've never heard of you yet you are working with LoW and I've heard of him a bit:p
Just wondering if I should consider you as an unknown and start your personal record with me or if I can tie you to someone I already know. Feel free to respond in-game as well if you prefer.
No one cares what you think, you're just a wannabe.
Never stop posting Amarr!
Your arrogant remarks have been noted and you have been added to the list for destruction.
Did I mention that I too have come to destroy you?
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Klendaxor
Caldari
Carpe Jugulum.
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Posted - 2009.07.27 01:52:00 -
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Applying for beta, I am a futures trader by profession so keen to see what this is going to look like
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XICD7
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Posted - 2009.07.27 02:38:00 -
[20]
I'd also like to apply for the beta. Thank you.
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Packtu'sa
Nabaal Construction and Industrials Corp
Nabaal Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.07.27 03:07:00 -
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I was assuming there would actually be an application to participate in beta testing, but lacking that, I shall simply say that I am interested and willing to test.
Roquezir has been indicated as the person to ask about technical details, so here I go.
- What security methods and technologies does EvE-Trade use? I shouldn't have to point out why security is an important consideration, but I will point out that very few (if any at all) third-party EVE websites take the proper steps to secure their website and their data. I reject any argument which follows the form "well, if we told you, it wouldn't be very secure" because this is security through obscurity, which any modern cryptographer will tell you is no security at all. This is why the U.S. National Security Agency gladly publishes the specifications for the algorithms used to encrypt 'TOP SECRET' documents; the algorithm is strong enough that, even knowing exactly how it works, someone can't crack it. Your website needs to do the same.
- What database methods and technologies does EvE-Trade use to ensure database integrity and prevent data loss?
- Where is EvE-Trade slated to be hosted once it goes live? If those details are unavailable, are you sure that this host has the capacity to handle this application?
- How comprehensive is the feature set for administrators? Can you, for example, remove a user from the system without losing any data? Can you reverse certain transactions without losing any data? Can you, without ever manually entering a query, edit every piece of data from the website?
- Does your application ever use the journal refID for anything other than journal 'walking'?
Yes, I'm picky. Consider this my offer to review your code. 
Packtu'sa
Founder/CEO, Nabaal Construction and Industrials Corp [NCIC] |
Roquezir
Minmatar
Dark Fusion Fleet
One Stop Research
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Posted - 2009.07.27 03:23:00 -
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Originally by: Packtu'sa
What security methods and technologies does EvE-Trade use?
The tech stack is:
Apache 2
Phusion Passenger
Ruby on Rails 2.3.3
MySQL 5
running on a tightly secured (meaning "I know exactly which ports are open and why") linux machine.
Communication *will* be via HTTPS albeit using a self-signed certificate.
The front-most front-end is primarily jQuery and jQuery-UI.
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What database methods and technologies does EvE-Trade use to ensure database integrity and prevent data loss?
Data integrity is enforced in the model layer of the application via Rail's ActiveRecord relationships. This is an extremely common and robust way to model relationships between entities in Ruby on Rails applications.
There are (fairly) few tables in EVE-Trade opting instead for a few extra columns per table to allow for polymorphic transaction types (for instance). In other words, deposits, withdrawals, purchases, and dividends are all handled via the same database table but using somewhat different columns as defined per each child class of transaction.
Any external entities that *may*, in the future, have access to our data (via partnership agreements), will *only* do so via an API that by necessity uses our model layer.
The model layer contains all of the business logic. That's just smart design.
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Where is EvE-Trade slated to be hosted once it goes live? If those details are unavailable, are you sure that this host has the capacity to handle this application?
Slicehost on, at the moment, a single 256MB RAM 10GB HDD slice. If we should be so fortunate that we need a larger slice, Slicehost is ready and willing to let me upgrade the slice to ridiculous levels as desired. Slicehost was recently acquired by Rackspace which is well known for its robust hosting capabilities.
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How comprehensive is the feature set for administrators? Can you, for example, remove a user from the system without losing any data?
Currently, it's fairly minimal but that's somewhat by intent. I take a strictly agile approach to development: I don't code more than I have to in order to get the job done. Should more administrative features be necessary down the line, I will add them.
At this time, the admin features are solely focused on teller-based operations such as processing a user's request to withdraw cash (again, the request, and it's completion, are logged as transactions in the database).
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Can you reverse certain transactions without losing any data?
At this time, I have not written reversible transactions. However, given the database in the database, frankly, I don't see why it would be a problem to do so later as necessary. Still, it would be impossible to "reverse" the disbursement of funds once they have occurred in-game.
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Can you, without ever manually entering a query, edit every piece of data from the website?
I'm not sure that I understand the question. I believe that, perhaps, you are asking whether EVE-Trade is built atop a content management system (CMS)? If so then the answer is "no".
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Does your application ever use the journal refID for anything other than journal 'walking'?
At this time, we do not have a need to walk the database journal. However, should business turn out to exceed expectations, I will be glad to add that feature on in short order.
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Yes, I'm picky. Consider this my offer to review your code.
While your offer is appreciated, and I do participate in open source software, EVE-Trade is a closed-source project; I retain the rights to the code via copyright as is already stated on the website.
If you are curious about my credentials, you can follow the link to my technical blog from the EVE-Trade site in due time.
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Roquezir
Minmatar
Dark Fusion Fleet
One Stop Research
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Posted - 2009.07.27 03:31:00 -
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Just to add a few more details:
- Our user registration process will not require an API Key. You will, however, have to deposit money to an EVE-Trade bot character in-game that will, within an hour's time, create a pending account for you. You will then supply EVE-Trade with your EVE character name and the amount of funds transferred to EVE in order to activate your account. This initial escrow amount will be, in effect, a form of temporary password.
- Account passwords will be stored in the database in an encrypted fashion
- As of launch time, only LadyOfWrath will have access to the EVE-Trade teller character
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Packtu'sa
Nabaal Construction and Industrials Corp
Nabaal Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.07.27 03:44:00 -
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Edited by: Packtu''sa on 27/07/2009 03:44:48
Originally by: Roquezir
Account passwords will be stored in the database in an encrypted fashion
How?
Originally by: Roquezir
running on a tightly secured (meaning "I know exactly which ports are open and why") linux machine.
I'm afraid I don't understand how simply knowing which ports are open guarantees security, let alone "tight" security.
Originally by: Roquezir
Communication *will* be via HTTPS albeit using a self-signed certificate.
TLS is all well and good, but it is more or less useless for serving content to the public when using a self-signed certificate. Why do you not have enough confidence in EvE-Trade to make the small investment in purchasing a certificate from an authority?
Originally by: Roquezir
While your offer is appreciated, and I do participate in open source software, EVE-Trade is a closed-source project; I retain the rights to the code via copyright as is already stated on the website.
Fair enough.
[Edited: typo]
Packtu'sa
Founder/CEO, Nabaal Construction and Industrials Corp [NCIC] |
Thoraemond
Minmatar
Far Ranger
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Posted - 2009.07.27 03:50:00 -
[25]
Originally by: Roquezir
[...] Our user registration process will not require an API Key. You will, however, have to deposit money to an EVE-Trade bot character in-game that will, within an hour's time, create a pending account for you. [...]
By 'bot character' here I expect that you mean simply a dedicated pilot whose transaction data is gathered regularly via the legitimate API, rather than a 'bot' in the 'EULA-breaking macro' sense of the term. Just the same, you might want to avoid the term 'bot' in the future to avoid any confusion.
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Roquezir
Minmatar
Dark Fusion Fleet
One Stop Research
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Posted - 2009.07.27 03:54:00 -
[26]
Originally by: Packtu'sa
Edited by: Packtu''sa on 27/07/2009 03:44:48
Originally by: Roquezir
Account passwords will be stored in the database in an encrypted fashion
How?
Via a one-way pad with an infinitesimally low likelihood of resulting in password overlap.
Originally by: Roquezir
running on a tightly secured (meaning "I know exactly which ports are open and why") linux machine.
I'm afraid I don't understand how simply knowing which ports are open guarantees security, let alone "tight" security.
Forgive me for noting that this particular statement sounds smug. I don't much appreciate that. Nonetheless, I will respond.
Other than those few pieces of software that Slicehost provides as part of their default Ubuntu build, the linux box only has those apps on it necessary for EVE-Trade and a few other particular uses that I have for it (the VM/slice is not dedicated solely to EVE-Tade). I alone have access and control via secure shell and I do not log in as root.
Originally by: Roquezir
Communication *will* be via HTTPS albeit using a self-signed certificate.
TLS is all well and good, but it is more or less useless for serving content to the public when using a self-signed certificate. Why do you not have enough confidence in EvE-Trade to make the small investment in purchasing a certificate from an authority?
Unless you are really concerned that someone is going to hijack the domain somehow, a certificate issued from a signing authority is expensive (for us) and overkill. LadyOfWrath and I only have so much funds at my disposal.
However, we will have a link on the site for individuals to donate to the upkeep of the server. Should we raise enough funds, I would gladly shell out the minimum $90/year to Network Solutions for a certificate.
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Packtu'sa
Nabaal Construction and Industrials Corp
Nabaal Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.07.27 03:54:00 -
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Originally by: Roquezir
At this time, we do not have a need to walk the database journal. However, should business turn out to exceed expectations, I will be glad to add that feature on in short order.
Let me rephrase: do you ever use the refID as a primary key?
Packtu'sa
Founder/CEO, Nabaal Construction and Industrials Corp [NCIC] |
Roquezir
Minmatar
Dark Fusion Fleet
One Stop Research
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Posted - 2009.07.27 03:56:00 -
[28]
Edited by: Roquezir on 27/07/2009 03:57:17
Originally by: Thoraemond
Originally by: Roquezir
[...] Our user registration process will not require an API Key. You will, however, have to deposit money to an EVE-Trade bot character in-game that will, within an hour's time, create a pending account for you. [...]
By 'bot character' here I expect that you mean simply a dedicated pilot whose transaction data is gathered regularly via the legitimate API, rather than a 'bot' in the 'EULA-breaking macro' sense of the term. Just the same, you might want to avoid the term 'bot' in the future to avoid any confusion.
Correct and agreed respectively. By "bot", I do indeed mean a legitimate program that will be accessing the wallet API of a dedicated pilot that will be used to collect fund escrow deposits in-game on behalf of EVE-Trade.
I forgot that "bot" here can also mean an automated macro program. Thanks for the clarification.
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LadyOfWrath
Caldari
One Stop Mining Shop
One Stop Research
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Posted - 2009.07.27 04:12:00 -
[29]
Keep it coming guys. Lots of good information, and glad we have knowledgeable people taking this seriously. To participate in the closed beta please sign up here. Remember this is for you the players so please if you trade stocks or are looking to get into this we want your input.
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Roquezir
Minmatar
Dark Fusion Fleet
One Stop Research
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Posted - 2009.07.27 04:17:00 -
[30]
Originally by: Packtu'sa
Originally by: Roquezir
At this time, we do not have a need to walk the database journal. However, should business turn out to exceed expectations, I will be glad to add that feature on in short order.
Let me rephrase: do you ever use the refID as a primary key?
Not as a primary key but we will be storing it as a field on deposits.
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Packtu'sa
Nabaal Construction and Industrials Corp
Nabaal Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.07.27 04:21:00 -
[31]
Originally by: Roquezir
Originally by: Packtu'sa
Let me rephrase: do you ever use the refID as a primary key?
Not as a primary key but we will be storing it as a field on deposits.
Phew.  Forgive me for being rough. I do that sometimes.
Packtu'sa
Founder/CEO, Nabaal Construction and Industrials Corp [NCIC] |
Roquezir
Minmatar
Dark Fusion Fleet
One Stop Research
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Posted - 2009.07.27 04:34:00 -
[32]
Originally by: Packtu'sa
Originally by: Roquezir
Originally by: Packtu'sa
Let me rephrase: do you ever use the refID as a primary key?
Not as a primary key but we will be storing it as a field on deposits.
Phew. Forgive me for being rough. I do that sometimes.
I hate to say it but we engineers are often stereotyped that way. ;) Consider it forgiven.
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SpiderWebMayhem
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.07.27 04:52:00 -
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Are we allowed to attempt to break the system and/or find exploits for fixing? I'm a goon afterall, and we tend to be good at breaking things :)
In all seriousness, this looks like an interesting project, both as an Eve pilot and a hobbyist programmer. Would love to help beta-test it.
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.07.27 07:22:00 -
[34]
No offense but I don't like the "one table to rule them all" approach, I had to do this on an huge military AS400 business application and it was kinda scary after a while.
Also "Account passwords will be stored in the database in an encrypted fashion", why not just store an hash and perform a challenge authentication? When I hear of passwords being stored, my hairs get all ruffled.
Also, I'd like to apply for the beta.
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Auditing and consulting
Before asking for investors, please read
http://tinyurl.com/n5ys4h and
http://tinyurl.com/lrg4oz
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Roquezir
Minmatar
Dark Fusion Fleet
One Stop Research
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Posted - 2009.07.27 14:55:00 -
[35]
Edited by: Roquezir on 27/07/2009 14:57:42
Originally by: SpiderWebMayhem
Are we allowed to attempt to break the system and/or find exploits for fixing? I'm a goon afterall, and we tend to be good at breaking things :)
You are absolutely encouraged to attempt to find exploits and/or break the system. Just please do share the steps so that we may repair them...
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Roquezir
Minmatar
Dark Fusion Fleet
One Stop Research
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Posted - 2009.07.27 14:57:00 -
[36]
Edited by: Roquezir on 27/07/2009 14:58:28
Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha
No offense but I don't like the "one table to rule them all" approach, I had to do this on an huge military AS400 business application and it was kinda scary after a while.
None taken. However, the approach is entirely common in Ruby on Rails to accommodate polymorphic (standard object-oriented) behavior to reduce the amount of repetition/increase reusability in the code
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Also "Account passwords will be stored in the database in an encrypted fashion", why not just store an hash and perform a challenge authentication? When I hear of passwords being stored, my hairs get all ruffled.
"Encrypted" does, in this case, mean a salted hashed password in this case. A hash is a one way encryption, FYI.
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.07.27 15:12:00 -
[37]
Quote:
"Encrypted" does, in this case, mean a salted hashed password in this case. A hash is a one way encryption, FYI
I know what an hash is. In fact I intended a 1 way password exactly to make it 1 way and remove any (well, almost any with MD5 or similar) possibility for someone to reconstruct the passwords stored in the database.
The account stores the hashed value, when the guy logs in he sends a pre-encrypted string to be de-crypted on the server, hashed and compared with the stored hash. If the challenge authentication fails, then the user is notified.
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Auditing and consulting
Before asking for investors, please read
http://tinyurl.com/n5ys4h and
http://tinyurl.com/lrg4oz
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XICD7
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Posted - 2009.07.27 18:24:00 -
[38]
So when does this beta take place and how would I begin using it once it starts?
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Kalrand
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Posted - 2009.07.27 18:33:00 -
[39]
I'm game to test this out.
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James Tundra
Gallente
Tash-Murkon Prime Industries
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Posted - 2009.07.27 18:51:00 -
[40]
One part of this plan is allowing dividend payments from virtual shares, correct? Does this mean that the stock exchange will need a team of, "Tellers" to pay out dividends on a regular basis?
If bad bobby were to use this to handle dividends would you guys be willing to pay out dividends to 100 or 200 people?
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LadyOfWrath
Caldari
One Stop Mining Shop
One Stop Research
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Posted - 2009.07.27 20:45:00 -
[41]
In this case when bad bobby paid dividend they would be credited to all the accounts of his investors via EvE-Trade immediately and stockholders can request a withdrawal anytime they like. If all of them requested a withdrawal that day then yes they would all be done within the 48h service agreement. A group of tellers will only be used if it grows beyond my personal capacity. Also any new teller will be required to provide collateral to function in a teller capacity for security reasons.
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Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2009.07.27 20:49:00 -
[42]
Originally by: LadyOfWrath
In this case when bad bobby paid dividend they would be credited to all the accounts of his investors via EvE-Trade immediately and stockholders can request a withdrawal anytime they like. If all of them requested a withdrawal that day then yes they would all be done within the 48h service agreement. A group of tellers will only be used if it grows beyond my personal capacity. Also any new teller will be required to provide collateral to function in a teller capacity for security reasons.
Ever thought about the possibility of tying in with Ulscese future bank operation?
Seems to me that an exchange with virtualized shares and automated transfer, payment, withdrawal system would just go hand in hand. |
Hexxx
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.07.27 20:53:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Kazzac Elentria
Originally by: LadyOfWrath
In this case when bad bobby paid dividend they would be credited to all the accounts of his investors via EvE-Trade immediately and stockholders can request a withdrawal anytime they like. If all of them requested a withdrawal that day then yes they would all be done within the 48h service agreement. A group of tellers will only be used if it grows beyond my personal capacity. Also any new teller will be required to provide collateral to function in a teller capacity for security reasons.
Ever thought about the possibility of tying in with Ulscese future bank operation?
Seems to me that an exchange with virtualized shares and automated transfer, payment, withdrawal system would just go hand in hand.
Seconded. I plan on leverage IHFS for my Eve Insurance project.
EBANK - Advisor | www.eve-bank.net
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Admiral IceBlock
Caldari
Northern Intelligence
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Posted - 2009.07.27 20:54:00 -
[44]
I would advise against investing in this IPO.
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Ray McCormack
hirr
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Posted - 2009.07.27 21:14:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Admiral IceBlock
I would advise against investing in this IPO.
Clearly you have lots of constructive thoughts in this forum. I called it years ago.
Rub my nipples you dirty polar bear.
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Roquezir
Minmatar
Dark Fusion Fleet
One Stop Research
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Posted - 2009.07.27 21:19:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Ray McCormack
Originally by: Admiral IceBlock
I would advise against investing in this IPO.
Clearly you have lots of constructive thoughts in this forum. I called it years ago.
Rub my nipples you dirty polar bear.
And here I was going to point out the obvious that:
(1) No particular IPO has been mentioned at this time and
(2) Failing to find any constructive information in the original poster's remarks.
However, Ray, your comments were far more elegant as they are based on documented historical fact. Thumbs up.
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Dethmourne Silvermane
Gallente
Ceptacemia
Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2009.07.28 01:22:00 -
[47]
I'd be interested in testing this; looks like a great way for me to lose my hard-earned iskies!
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SpiderWebMayhem
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.07.28 01:53:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Roquezir
Edited by: Roquezir on 27/07/2009 14:57:42
Originally by: SpiderWebMayhem
Are we allowed to attempt to break the system and/or find exploits for fixing? I'm a goon afterall, and we tend to be good at breaking things :)
You are absolutely encouraged to attempt to find exploits and/or break the system. Just please do share the steps so that we may repair them...
Excellent. On that topic, are you guys going to be setting up a bug tracker and forum for beta testers? How about a channel on IRC or jabber?
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XICD7
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Posted - 2009.07.28 02:36:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Dethmourne Silvermane
I'd be interested in testing this; looks like a great way for me to lose my hard-earned iskies!
If we wanted ot do that we could just see if SpiderWebMayhem can get us into Goonswarm. Not saying he is one of the scammers, just that it's Goonswarm...
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LadyOfWrath
Caldari
One Stop Mining Shop
One Stop Research
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Posted - 2009.07.28 03:08:00 -
[50]
Beta Testers will be using the built in help desk feature to report bugs. A forum will also be available. Tentative start of official closed Beta is this weekend. We are doing a bit more testing ourselves then we are ready to let you guys in.
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Roquezir
Minmatar
Dark Fusion Fleet
One Stop Research
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Posted - 2009.07.28 04:06:00 -
[51]
The feedback mechanism will be the envelope/mail icon on the webapp's toolbar. You'll know it when you see it. Basically, you'll just be shooting me e-mails.
I'm the only dev so bug tracking, for now, is a piece of cake.
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Roquezir
Minmatar
Dark Fusion Fleet
One Stop Research
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Posted - 2009.07.28 04:07:00 -
[52]
Edited by: Roquezir on 28/07/2009 04:08:48
Originally by: Dethmourne Silvermane
I'd be interested in testing this; looks like a great way for me to lose my hard-earned iskies!
You won't lose money as part of the beta.
Now when EVE-Trade goes live, that may be another matter... ;-) However, ideally, we'll instead enable you to make tons of ISK instead.
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Krathos Morpheus
Gallente
Legion Infernal
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Posted - 2009.07.28 10:20:00 -
[53]
What is going to be the seucurity isk-related? Are all isks going to be helded by LoW? Is going to be any limit on the money to ensure security? Full amount is going to be liquid and available? Hit by bus strategy?
Does an existing project need full agreement from the shareholders to be translated there or can it be partially handled on eve stock?
Can we access our personal data via API? (To implement it on other apps). And finally, can we add in-game or unsupported virtual shares manually to our acount to manage and track all our investments on the same place?
I would like to sign for beta, although I'm short on time lately, I would like to see it if possible.
EVE Knowledge
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Balogh
Gallente
Real-time EVE Stock Exchange
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Posted - 2009.07.28 17:45:00 -
[54]
Edited by: Balogh on 28/07/2009 17:45:01
I'm interested in checking out the beta.
Originally by: Roquezir
However, we will have a link on the site for individuals to donate to the upkeep of the server. Should we raise enough funds, I would gladly shell out the minimum $90/year to Network Solutions for a certificate.
$90 per YEAR?! That must be the most expensive single-hostname certificate out there. I can get a Comodo single-hostname certificate from a reseller for 15 euro per year.
_________
Real-time EVE Stock Exchange
Feature request: Share transfer log (since 2007.10!) |
Tre Circuit
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Posted - 2009.07.28 18:16:00 -
[55]
If there is still room I would like to participate in the Beta as well.
Question, will you be wanting other toons to subscribe and have some virtual shares to work through the dividend function?
Thanks,
Tre
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SpiderWebMayhem
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.07.28 18:47:00 -
[56]
Edited by: SpiderWebMayhem on 28/07/2009 18:48:31
Originally by: XICD7
Originally by: Dethmourne Silvermane
I'd be interested in testing this; looks like a great way for me to lose my hard-earned iskies!
If we wanted ot do that we could just see if SpiderWebMayhem can get us into Goonswarm. Not saying he is one of the scammers, just that it's Goonswarm...
Heh heh, I'm sure I could make some arrangements 
Originally by: Roquezir
The feedback mechanism will be the envelope/mail icon on the webapp's toolbar. You'll know it when you see it. Basically, you'll just be shooting me e-mails.
I'm the only dev so bug tracking, for now, is a piece of cake.
Good to hear, close contact with devs is always a good thing. You are the only dev at the moment, correct?
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DG J
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Posted - 2009.07.28 22:52:00 -
[57]
Sorry, but where do i sign up for this? Somehow i must have missed the link.
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LadyOfWrath
Caldari
One Stop Mining Shop
One Stop Research
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Posted - 2009.07.28 23:30:00 -
[58]
Sign ups are here on the forums through until Friday.
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DG J
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Posted - 2009.07.29 00:01:00 -
[59]
Then i would like to sign up.
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Lou Takki
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Posted - 2009.07.29 00:52:00 -
[60]
Sign me up please!
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Dethmourne Silvermane
Gallente
Ceptacemia
Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2009.07.29 03:00:00 -
[61]
Originally by: SpiderWebMayhem
Edited by: SpiderWebMayhem on 28/07/2009 18:48:31
Originally by: XICD7
Originally by: Dethmourne Silvermane
I'd be interested in testing this; looks like a great way for me to lose my hard-earned iskies!
If we wanted ot do that we could just see if SpiderWebMayhem can get us into Goonswarm. Not saying he is one of the scammers, just that it's Goonswarm...
Heh heh, I'm sure I could make some arrangements
Sweet, where do I sign my spy alt up?
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F90OEX
F9X
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.07.29 03:38:00 -
[62]
G/L Lady
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Craig Skyle
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Posted - 2009.07.29 05:41:00 -
[63]
I would like to sign up.
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LadyOfWrath
Caldari
One Stop Mining Shop
One Stop Research
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Posted - 2009.07.29 17:56:00 -
[64]
Still have room for more people so keep the sign ups coming guys.
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Roquezir
Minmatar
Dark Fusion Fleet
One Stop Research
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Posted - 2009.07.29 19:26:00 -
[65]
Because someone inquired a little.
I'm the co-founder (with LadyOfWrath), sole developer, and board member for EVE-Trade.
I'm also a professional software engineer with about fifteen years of experience building all manner of things for all manner of customers. Lately, that has been web apps written in Ruby (a marvelous language) using Ruby-on-Rails (a web framework that is a true force multiplier in terms of productivity).
EVE-Trade is the product of just under two man-weeks of my effort. And it has been just an absolute gas to write!
I'm available for in-game and real world technical consultation. In the real world, telecommuting is an absolute must with limited travel an option.
I also must add that Lady has been a pleasure to collaborate with. Partners don't come much better.
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Nif Makria
Caldari
Eve Engineering Finance
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Posted - 2009.07.29 20:09:00 -
[66]
sign me up for BETA please. thanks
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Rillem
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Posted - 2009.07.30 08:14:00 -
[67]
Sign me up and I may have missed this earlier but this is going to be a web page interface similar to e-trade correct? Or is it going to be a separate program that requires installation?
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Jackie Fisher
Syrkos Technologies
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Posted - 2009.07.30 08:34:00 -
[68]
Sign me up for experimentation purposes please.
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Dagda Morr
Seppuku Warriors
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Posted - 2009.07.30 10:02:00 -
[69]
Great idea - please sign me up for Beta testing!
Please resize sig to a maximum of 400 x 120 - Mitnal
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Roquezir
Minmatar
Dark Fusion Fleet
One Stop Research
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Posted - 2009.07.30 17:57:00 -
[70]
EVE-Trade is a web application.
The closed beta will start in the next couple of days. This is your last chance to get in...
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Mythrantar
Caldari
Darkwave Technologies
Kahora Catori
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Posted - 2009.07.30 20:41:00 -
[71]
Sign me up, please. Thanks!
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4IROW
Rave Technologies Inc.
C0VEN
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Posted - 2009.07.30 21:19:00 -
[72]
Nice, sign me up please
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LadyOfWrath
Caldari
One Stop Mining Shop
One Stop Research
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Posted - 2009.07.31 04:24:00 -
[73]
Today is the last day for players to sign up for the closed beta testing. As of now we will be able to easily let in everyone who has signed up at this point. We want you to get your feet wet, let us know what you like and don't like, and what improvements we can make to make EvE-Trade the only stop for CEOs and investors alike. This is an app for the community and only with your help can we shape it to be the best.
Beta testers will receive a mail in game with a temporary password and sign on for the character they signed up with. These will be strictly for the beta testing phase only. The database will be wiped at the conclusion so all testers will have to officially sign up when the app goes live. I want to thank everyone for their help and look forward to once again bringing some of the best to EvE-Online.
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Roquezir
Minmatar
Dark Fusion Fleet
One Stop Research
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Posted - 2009.07.31 05:52:00 -
[74]
Edited by: Roquezir on 31/07/2009 05:53:21
I'll be sending these beta invites out tomorrow (Friday) evening, Eastern Standard, in-game.
Currently, I anticipate that we will release EVE-Trade 1.0 to the public 1 week after we start the closed beta. While I have been extremely pleased with how EVE-Trade has performed in closed alpha, software is like warfare. In the words of the oft quoted Helmuth von Moltke, no plan of battle survives contact with the enemy.
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Xiola Umbar
Minmatar
Iron Dragon Industries
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Posted - 2009.07.31 09:25:00 -
[75]
Sign me up please
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Arloeswr
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2009.07.31 13:15:00 -
[76]
I'd like to sign up for the beta as well.
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Hexxx
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.07.31 14:01:00 -
[77]
I'd like to hammer on it a little. Sign me up.
EBANK - Advisor | www.eve-bank.net
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Stela'Artois
Capital Ventures Incorporated
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Posted - 2009.07.31 14:26:00 -
[78]
I would like to sign up for beta testing.
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Roquezir
Minmatar
One Stop Research
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Posted - 2009.07.31 23:51:00 -
[79]
Beta invites going out shortly via EVE-Mail.
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Roquezir
Minmatar
One Stop Research
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Posted - 2009.07.31 23:54:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Amarr Citizen 155
Originally by: Roquezir
Originally by: Hexxx
You're dancing around it so I'll ask; will you be supporting virtualized shares? Shares that have no physical existence in the game?
I do sincerely apologize that I somehow managed to miss this.
I am actually fairly new (2 months) to EVE. I'm a member of LadyOfWrath's alliance, have been chatting with him for over a month now, and collaborated on this endeavor. If you want to know more, you can visit http://evan.tiggerpalace.com aka http://triple-dog-dare.com (for now). It's just a blog--as you can confirm from a simple google search.
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Roquezir
Minmatar
One Stop Research
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Posted - 2009.08.01 00:36:00 -
[81]
Beta invites have gone out. If you didn't receive one and expected to or if there's something wrong with your temporary login/password, let me know.
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LadyOfWrath
Caldari
One Stop Mining Shop
One Stop Research
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Posted - 2009.08.01 01:23:00 -
[82]
Closed Beta testing is now in progress. We encourage players to post comments and reviews to help us better the exchange as a whole. We will be looking to provide the only place for CEOs and investors alike. Further sign ups for the closed beta are prohibited at this time. Beta testers please use the mail system in the exchange to address issues or make suggestions. These mails will go straight to our developer.
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Carrie Mehome
Misfitz Brigade
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Posted - 2009.08.01 01:41:00 -
[83]
Am not sure where to ask this. I have several comments I would like to make and a couple of things to point out. where should i put em?
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LadyOfWrath
Caldari
One Stop Mining Shop
One Stop Research
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Posted - 2009.08.01 01:50:00 -
[84]
Please use the mail feature in the EvE-Trade beta. Those comments will go straight to the developer and then be discussed between us during nightly meetings. We look forward to your input.
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Roquezir
Minmatar
One Stop Research
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Posted - 2009.08.01 02:21:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Carrie Mehome
Am not sure where to ask this. I have several comments I would like to make and a couple of things to point out. where should i put em?
It's the 'envelope' icon on the toolbar at the top left. It'll open up an email editor with my address in the TO box.
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Carrie Mehome
Misfitz Brigade
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Posted - 2009.08.01 02:23:00 -
[86]
I receved an error about the mailbox not being installed.
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Roquezir
Minmatar
One Stop Research
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Posted - 2009.08.01 02:26:00 -
[87]
Also, for those in the beta, the "featured news" on the site has information to connect to my ventrillo server. Feel free to congregate there to discuss the beta or to chat with me. I'm frequently on.
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Roquezir
Minmatar
One Stop Research
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Posted - 2009.08.01 02:33:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Carrie Mehome
I receved an error about the mailbox not being installed.
Odd. I'm using a very standard way to kick off a mail app from the browser. You can also find me on ventrillo. Or shoot me mail in-game.
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Roquezir
Minmatar
One Stop Research
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Posted - 2009.08.01 03:34:00 -
[89]
I must say: Carrie Mehome is my kind of beta tester!
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.08.01 08:34:00 -
[90]
I hope not to break the NDA saying this early beta is amazing!
Anyway expect a fat report soon(tm).
-
Auditing and consulting
Before asking for investors, please read
http://tinyurl.com/n5ys4h and
http://tinyurl.com/lrg4oz
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Manius
Caldari
Gold Star Industries
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Posted - 2009.08.01 13:33:00 -
[91]
Sign me up as well. This sounds very promising.
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XICD7
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Posted - 2009.08.01 13:42:00 -
[92]
Originally by: LadyOfWrath
Closed Beta testing is now in progress. We encourage players to post comments and reviews to help us better the exchange as a whole. We will be looking to provide the only place for CEOs and investors alike. Further sign ups for the closed beta are prohibited at this time. Beta testers please use the mail system in the exchange to address issues or make suggestions. These mails will go straight to our developer.
Manius, that means you're late to the sign-ups and can't get into the beta. but maybe LoW will make an exception.
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Manius
Caldari
Gold Star Industries
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Posted - 2009.08.01 14:50:00 -
[93]
Doh! Oh well, it'll be out soon anyways i guess.
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Reginald Rartan
More Money Ltd
Neutrino Technologies
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Posted - 2009.08.02 14:05:00 -
[94]
Looks very promissing. I am looking forward to this starting up.
I have send some feedback to Roquezir.
Now MML Bonds have a homepage |
Carrie Mehome
Misfitz Brigade
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Posted - 2009.08.02 19:56:00 -
[95]
Originally by: Roquezir
I must say: Carrie Mehome is my kind of beta tester!
Lol, thanx.
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LadyOfWrath
Caldari
One Stop Mining Shop
One Stop Research
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Posted - 2009.08.03 14:17:00 -
[96]
Advertising
As EvE-Trade prepares for launch we wish to offer advertising spaces as we will have very large exposure the first month. These slots will be 150m EA for 1 month from launch. Banner image must be 728x90 and JPEG format preferred. Please contact me for all advertising with any questions you may have. We also have 3 month advertising blocks at 400m EA.
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Roquezir
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.08.05 18:49:00 -
[97]
Edited by: Roquezir on 05/08/2009 18:49:29
Also feel free to contact me about advertising options.
Roquezir
EvE-Trade Board Member, Co-founder, and Sole Developer
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Valhala King
Caldari
Valhala Metals Stones and Trade
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Posted - 2009.08.16 17:41:00 -
[98]
Edited by: Valhala King on 16/08/2009 17:43:25
Woooot, ok we just read, (thanks to the news release) that this is something that can be available to CEO's soon or is just in the planning stages cant really understand where, sorry, in any case, I would like to apply for or as a beta tester, have been in and out of the "game" since it's inception, ask any of the orginal developers and or "NASA technoligies transfer" folks yes "sentinal" has awoken  , anyway if we can help and take part evemail me in game...  IF not or we are to late to get involved where can a CEO sign up for utilization of the system
Good luck with your venture, fly safe
Yesterday is history,
Tomorrow a Mystery,
Today a Gift that is why we call it the Present.
SEMPER FI
Sentinal Lives |
Aladreyn
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Posted - 2009.08.16 18:11:00 -
[99]
Sounds like this could be good- Sign me up for the beta
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PleasureBabe
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Posted - 2009.08.16 18:34:00 -
[100]
Edited by: PleasureBabe on 16/08/2009 18:34:13
Originally by: Roquezir
The tech stack is:
Apache 2
Phusion Passenger
Ruby on Rails 2.3.3
MySQL 5
running on a tightly secured (meaning "I know exactly which ports are open and why") linux machine.
Communication *will* be via HTTPS albeit using a self-signed certificate.
The front-most front-end is primarily jQuery and jQuery-UI.
My 2 cents.
Just because you know which ports should be open or closed does not mean it is not vulnerable to 0day exploits :/ False sense of security given there.
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Roquezir
Minmatar
Opeibus Vis
One Stop Research
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Posted - 2009.08.16 19:52:00 -
[101]
Edited by: Roquezir on 16/08/2009 19:52:51
Originally by: PleasureBabe
I was interested in the advertising packages :) someone point me in the right direction please. Thank you.
Shoot LadyOfWrath and/or I and evemail and we'll discuss.
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Tiberus Blackwell
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Posted - 2009.08.18 03:43:00 -
[102]
oh you sweet dumb gullable ppl..here we are 2 even banks later and countless other scams........scams i might add that arent sanctioned in other games like they are here. seeing as how 30% of ccp profits are from the scammers running mulitpe accounts i can see were ccp has to keep them around since there players pool is well under the profit marge of all other mmos....cause well other games ban jerks scammer and morons as to make it were more folks are willing to send in money to play......getting off track...that you idiots would let ya greed run wild and get scamed yet again..wich is whats going to happen to you ppl. its always happens arnt you all smart enough to advoid puting yaself in them situations damn ....but yes be all means plus send all ya isk to some other guy to hold for ya .....while your at it i valet park factions ships at stations so please feel free to contract all ya high isk ships :) in fact how bout you all just send me your isk and vauled items ..i will give nothing back toany of you but a mail saying there mine now sucks to be you .....atleast im not trying to fool you all with fancy words and hopes of getting something worth while out of it so come on if ya gonna trhow stuff away like that just give me ya caps ya mods everything
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Yoshitaka Moromuo
Distant Light Galactic
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2009.08.18 07:10:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Tiberus Blackwell
oh you sweet dumb gullable ppl..here we are 2 even banks later and countless other scams........scams i might add that arent sanctioned in other games like they are here. seeing as how 30% of ccp profits are from the scammers running mulitpe accounts i can see were ccp has to keep them around since there players pool is well under the profit marge of all other mmos....cause well other games ban jerks scammer and morons as to make it were more folks are willing to send in money to play......getting off track...that you idiots would let ya greed run wild and get scamed yet again..wich is whats going to happen to you ppl. its always happens arnt you all smart enough to advoid puting yaself in them situations damn ....but yes be all means plus send all ya isk to some other guy to hold for ya .....while your at it i valet park factions ships at stations so please feel free to contract all ya high isk ships :) in fact how bout you all just send me your isk and vauled items ..i will give nothing back toany of you but a mail saying there mine now sucks to be you .....atleast im not trying to fool you all with fancy words and hopes of getting something worth while out of it so come on if ya gonna trhow stuff away like that just give me ya caps ya mods everything
tl;dr - Calling yourself an "honest" scammer via wall-of-text method?
The fun of EVE is in figuring out who deserves your trust. Chribba's done the impossible and earned damn near the entire playerbase's trust - and by God, he bloody deserves it. So there's been bank issues before; the same can be said about the real world (even in recent memory.) This is an attempt to take something that was created ingame and make it something more. Give them a gorram chance to make something good.
To the EVE-Trade staff: Nothing but luck to you all. Here's wishing for a good public release! |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.08.18 07:53:00 -
[104]
@Wall of text guy:
1) Enter exists and you should find it. Yes you can  .
2) You seem like those crying at how X and Y raised prices.
What matters is the spread not the physical value (for a long way).
What matters for real is that you don't see how even if those were all long term scams, you are meant to ride them not to fall to them.
Don't invest what you can't afford to lose, it's like playing poker and knowing when it's time to exit the game, with the maximum income right before you get busted.
-
Auditing and consulting
Before asking for investors, please read
http://tinyurl.com/n5ys4h and
http://tinyurl.com/lrg4oz
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PleasureBabe
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Posted - 2009.08.18 10:07:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Tiberus Blackwell
oh you sweet dumb gullable ppl..here we are 2 even banks later and countless other scams........scams i might add that arent sanctioned in other games like they are here. seeing as how 30% of ccp profits are from the scammers running mulitpe accounts i can see were ccp has to keep them around since there players pool is well under the profit marge of all other mmos....cause well other games ban jerks scammer and morons as to make it were more folks are willing to send in money to play......getting off track...that you idiots would let ya greed run wild and get scamed yet again..wich is whats going to happen to you ppl. its always happens arnt you all smart enough to advoid puting yaself in them situations damn ....but yes be all means plus send all ya isk to some other guy to hold for ya .....while your at it i valet park factions ships at stations so please feel free to contract all ya high isk ships :) in fact how bout you all just send me your isk and vauled items ..i will give nothing back toany of you but a mail saying there mine now sucks to be you .....atleast im not trying to fool you all with fancy words and hopes of getting something worth while out of it so come on if ya gonna trhow stuff away like that just give me ya caps ya mods everything
Please tell me you are a drunk ******, cause if this is how you always write then god save the universe and spare us this nonsense.
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Roquezir
Minmatar
Opeibus Vis
One Stop Research
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Posted - 2009.08.18 18:19:00 -
[106]
While it seems that MD has answered "Wall of Text Guy" well enough, I will comment just the same.
EVE-Trade is not interested in holding your money.
No, really!
Remember, we are not a bank.
You deposit money, buy stocks, and the money is then transferred to the previous stock owner. That fellow can come along whenever he chooses and request a withdrawal. Our goal is to service withdrawal requests in no more than 48 hours.
It bears pointing out, due to API limitations, withdrawals are limited by the presence of human tellers to handle them. Initially, withdrawals will be completely free. We intend to provide a certain number of free withdrawals over a span of time. However, based upon the withdrawal request load, we reserve the right to add a small service charge later to process withdrawals.
Deposits to EVE-Trade process hourly due to API limitations. That may be your sole incentive to maintain some sort of balance in EVE-Trade: to allow for buying of products on a moment's notice. However, I generally don't expect EVE-Trade to operate at NYSE speeds and, so, maintaining relatively low/empty balances should be quite workable for users.
Finally, LadyOfWrath, who has proven to be a trusted member of the community, will be processing the in-game monetary exchanges.
To wrap up: we do not want to hold on to your money. We have no intent or desire to maintain large balances on accounts. It falls to you, the future users of EVE-Trade, to remember to occasionally withdraw funds to keep your balance low/empty (depending upon your comfort level).
Roquezir
EVE-Trade Co-founder, board member, and chief engineer
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XCardak
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Posted - 2009.08.19 12:42:00 -
[107]
Hi just wanted to find out a bit more about this new endevor. How low is the fee for the buying and selling of listed stocks, and bonds? What kind of fees would be applied besides withdrawal and deposit fee's. I am confident you will be listing your fee's for each service if there are fee's attached to them. Now are the listings of the stock/bond is dependent upon the person selling the stock or company offering the stock? How far can the spread go between the buys and the sells? Would highlighting the listing provide a brief description to the prospective buyer on what are the risks/rewards ratio. Also would the listing indicate if the stock/bond is a growth or dividend listing? Please forgive my blunt questions, and I apologize in advance if I have offended anyone. These are just a few questions i like to ask before sticking my toes in the water.
I tip my hat to you for your bold venture.
Fortune Favors the Bold and the Well Prepared.
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Rada Ionesco
Caldari
Club a Seal
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Posted - 2009.08.24 09:57:00 -
[108]
Is there a website for this new emerging trade system? Just wondering if there will IPO discussion somewhere else or if it will all happen on these forums? I am new to trading in this manner, should I bother trying out the beta, or just wait until the full version of your software comes out? I'm just not sure my feedback would be very useful is all.
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Selene D'Celeste
Caldari
The D'Celeste Trading Company
ISK Six
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Posted - 2009.08.24 12:33:00 -
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Edited by: Selene D''Celeste on 24/08/2009 12:33:18
Please see this thread as EVE-Trade has been merged into the upcoming EVE Central Reserve: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1157676
Please see this thread for more about ECR: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1137708
Edit: I fail at linking.
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